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Obama Reiterates - Will Only Negotiate After Getting Everything He Wants

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It would appear that President Obama's comprehension of the meaning of the word "negotiate" is different from that taught in the new "common core". Speaking at an event at FEMA, he noted:

  • *OBAMA: WILL NEGOTIATE AFTER GOVT OPENS, DEBT CEILING RAISED
  • *OBAMA: WON'T NEGOTIATE UNDER 'THREAT OF ECONOMIC CATASTROPHE'
  • *OBAMA TELLS CONGRESS TO 'MOVE BEYOND THIS MANUFACTURED CRISIS'

But given his comments last week on the markets' need to see this as a crisis, perhaps the best word to use to describe this farce is "inconceivable."

 

 

 

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Mon, 10/07/2013 - 12:50 | 4030751 McMolotov
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Fuck you, Obama!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 12:59 | 4030787 hedgeless_horseman
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2012 Popular Vote as reported by Diebold ATMs

Barack H. Obama        Democratic     65,917,257     51.01%    
Willard Mitt Romney    Republican     60,932,235     47.16%

Why should he negotiate when has a mandate? 

The people clearly want MOAR debt.

The people clearly want MOAR healthcare.

Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:02 | 4030811 TruthInSunshine
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    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."
    
    "Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is “trillion” with a “T.” That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion."
    
    "Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America."

    "And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on."
    
    "Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities."

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)

VOTING AGAINST RAISING THE DEBT CEILING

March 16, 2006

Official National Debt at that time: 9 trillion USD

Official National Debt NOW: 18 trillion USD

FORWARD!!!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:09 | 4030832 hedgeless_horseman
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That was before Obama was first elected El Presidente in 2008. 

He was relected in 2012 after completely reversing his stance on the debt ceiling.

The people clearly want MOAR flip flopping.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:10 | 4030869 nope-1004
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It's a vast, right-wing conspiracy.  At least, that's what Hillary tells me.

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:28 | 4030954 ArkansasAngie
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its an excuse for marshall law

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:35 | 4030986 SilverIsKing
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its an excuse for martial law

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:42 | 4031028 I am more equal...
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Princess Bride.... yes, that describes this inconcievable administration.  Where is Andre the Giant when you need him?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:14 | 4031163 ndotken
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This is what happens when a pissy little bitch gets elected president.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:45 | 4031287 Keyser
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Time to get ready for default. With Harry Reid in the driver's seat and Obama out of the negotiations, the little twerp will allow us to default on the debt.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:52 | 4031322 LawsofPhysics
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There is plenty of tax revenue to cover the interest on debt (if interests rates remain low).

In the meantime, the debt continues to grow, by 85 billion per month (that we know of).

http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/tot_operation_schedule.html

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:07 | 4031379 malikai
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But if treasury isn't selling any new paper, that means the FED will now have to buy existing debt either from PDs or on the open market.

I wonder what that will do to the long end..

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:16 | 4031417 LawsofPhysics
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I too, would like an experienced bond trader to comment on this as well.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:40 | 4031492 Manthong
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as reported by Diebold ATMs" 

"Aye, there's the rub." - Hamlet

"But if treasury isn't selling any new paper, that means the FED will now have to buy existing debt either from PDs or on the open market.
I wonder what that will do to the long end."

"Aye, there's the rub."  .. too.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:49 | 4031600 Pegasus Muse
Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:09 | 4031392 Zadok
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'(that we know of)' is the best and most comprehensive part of your post...the rest was good too!
It always seems to be about what is happening NOW to crush the opposition but we FIND OUT about it only much later and usually only after good people have died under mysterious circumstances.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:15 | 4031169 CrazyCooter
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That Princess Bride shit makes this funny. Otherwise it is just sad.

Regards,

Cooter

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:47 | 4031301 Freddie
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its an excuse for marital law

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:13 | 4031403 Zadok
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Yes, marital law feels a lot like martial law. Just try to exit, you'll find out just how coersive it really is.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:41 | 4031546 Keyser
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Except there are not enough active and reserve military to enforce martial law throughout the country. At most, they can cover 3 - 4 urban areas and that's it. Washington DC will be one, since of course the naked emperor will need constant protection from his subjects. 

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 16:03 | 4031669 Zadok
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Me thinks you missed the subtle difference between marital and martial...not a typo.
Trying for a bit o humor...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 16:35 | 4031756 Keyser
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 16:39 | 4031760 Freddie
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The first guy posted Marshall Law which was wrong. The next guy corrected it with martial law.  I threw in marital law.  ;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:11 | 4031400 DYS
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its an excuse for marshmallow

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:13 | 4031859 Kirk2NCC1701
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@SilverIsKing: "its an excuse for martial law"

It's an excuse to use the IEEPA*.  Fixed it for ya.  Bullish for being Emperor-powered!

Coming to a Theater (of Operation) near you soon. /s

* IEEPA links:

   1.  http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/ieepa.pdf

   2.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Emergency_Economic_Powers_Ac...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:55 | 4031087 SoberOne
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Perhaps you are playing tekken?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:17 | 4031168 ebworthen
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Shoot first, ask questions later.

If you don't have anything to hide, why are you upset that we kicked in your door without a warrant?

http://www.usmarshals.gov/

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:37 | 4031252 stormsailor
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marshall dillon?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:04 | 4031372 Zadok
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@nope-1004
Pillow talk?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:10 | 4030871 Karlus
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I think a big part of the problem is when Bush does it, its very bad. When Bam does it, its necessary and good. Debt limits, waging war...etc.

 

I would say that the level of hypocrisy is a serious inhibitor to taking them seriously at all.

I think if we viewed the administration operating under good faith (See Reagan vs Tip) then we could work these out.

When we are into winning the news cycle and having very little moral compass, it limits dialog.

 

At some point, this ends one way. One side gets sick of the other and then we can slug it out. Until then, its all just pi**ing in the wind

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:16 | 4030898 JohnG
Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:40 | 4031270 TruthInSunshine
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The LameStream "Media" Outlets couldn't try any harder to lick Obama & hump his leg as if they were smitten puppies.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:02 | 4031362 Hapa
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You mean Bam-Bam

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:34 | 4031511 Keyser
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No way, Obama is not that restrained. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:17 | 4030899 remain calm
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Wait I get this. "Honey I will only take you out to dinner if you blow me first". And if it not the best blow job ever it's only McDoonalds for you, maybe, but you can trust me.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:23 | 4030925 insanelysane
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I hate when people trot out the good old days, reagan v tip, crap.

In those days Dems and Repubs were "compromising" how to spend money.  Today it is completely different, they need to compromise on cuts.

Here's an analogy.

Working couple stops in to local corner store on payday to buy some beer and snacks.  The hit a lottery ticket for $500.  The happy couple compromises.  Husband gets $150 worth of junk, Wife gets $150 worth of junk, and kiddies get the remaining stuff.

A few weeks later, one of them has lost their job, other has lost their overtime.  The happy couple now has to compromise over who doesn't get what.  This compromise isn't nearly as easy as the other.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:30 | 4031223 RafterManFMJ
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I really tried to follow this but u lost me after 140 characters or so; pls 2B moar condensed

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:23 | 4030918 McMolotov
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"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building." —George W. Bush, 2000

Likewise, he was reelected in 2004 after completely reversing that stance. Kerry flip-flopped on the Iraq war, but that didn't help him against Bush. Apparently, Americans will only accept flip-flopping when it is done by presidents?

Either that, or American voters don't actually choose who's president.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:39 | 4031006 olto
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McM:

Come on, Kerry was a stand-in for any number of people who might have beat bush-----every time he got ahead in the polls-----he did something/said something----to fall back.

Almost anyone could have beaten bush that year-----but it wasn't in the plan.

Kerry is not my horse, so I don't care what you say about him----but he threw the election so we could get Obama???

What was anyone thinking about?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:19 | 4031181 TarAndFeather
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"Kerry is not my horse"

 

I see what you did there, Bravo good sir....Bravo.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:20 | 4031185 Pure Evil
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Sounds exactly like the crap Romney pulled that allowed Obama to get reelected.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:23 | 4032119 olto
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Pure Evil:

You are correct. I just did not want to get into that because then it begins to look like a CONSPIRACY, and we all know that our country has anti-conspiracy laws from its fear of the anarchists in the early 1900's, so it is illegal to have a conspiracy.

Hopefully, none of our legislaters will suggest an anti-respiration law-----I need air.

As far as Romney is concerned, I don't know----he was not my horse either.

It seems like I've always been looking for a horse to no avail.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:56 | 4031342 Freddie
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Who was/is a stooge for Al See Eye A Duh:

a. G.H.W. Bush

b. Bill Clinton

c. George Gomer Bush

d. Barrack Hussein Obama-Mohammed

This is a trick question because they are ALL - See Eye A.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNIkwDgzKuQ

This shit has been going on since JFK and before.   Mrs. Operation Mockingbird aka Jack's other other mistress was killed after he got whacked by The Company.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:09 | 4030852 Renewable Life
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It was talk like that, that convinced tens of millions of Americans to vote for this guy! 

I wonder if he reads his old speeches at night and thinks, "god damn I sounded goooood, didn't I?"

Hopefully his failure over time, will convince ten of millions more, that govt. ISN'T the answer after all, and lets return to our Founders wisdom of small govt and strong individuals in this Country! Unlikely, but worth working toward, non the less!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:14 | 4030879 fooshorter
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“People think that a liar gains a victory over his victim. What I’ve learned is that a lie is an act of self-abdication, because one surrenders one’s reality to the person to whom one lies, making that person one’s master, condemning oneself from then on to faking the sort of reality that person’s view requires to be faked…The man who lies to the world, is the world’s slave from then on…There are no white lies, there is only the blackest of destruction, and a white lie is the blackest of all.” 
Ayn RandAtlas Shrugged

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:25 | 4031207 GrinandBearit
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Great! 

I hope you don't mind TIS, but I copied and pasted this to Slope of Hope trading blog.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:48 | 4031300 Nothing but the...
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Agree with Truth in S - Obama is a failed president ,walking on shaky ground . One must wonder if he would survive a vote of no confidence.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:18 | 4031430 Born2Bwired
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I don't know why if Republicans filibuster they don't just keep reading this statement over and over again into the record. 

 

Not that they are any better, but a replay of what Obama said vs. what he does now might be interesting to attention deficit voters.

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 15:23 | 4031441 Stoploss
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CALL YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS AND DEMAND A NO CONFIDENCE VOTE FOR BARRY AND CO.  STATE BY STATE VOTING.

 

NO CONFIDENCE CONFIRMATION POST VOTE AUTOMATICALLY RESULTS IN IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 13:06 | 4030836 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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Muhammed Morsi's victory in the presidential election was announced on 24 June 2012 after he won the run-off election winning 51.7 percent of the vote.   Don't blame me I voted for Kodos, err Gary Johnson.

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