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Meet The Disability-Industrial-Complex: Up To 45% On Disability Insurance Are Frauds

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

If the American public knew what was going on in our system, half would be outraged and the other half would apply for benefits.

- Marilyn Zahm, one of the 1,500 disability judges operating in the U.S.

I’ve known about the “disability” scam for many years now, but I had never read a report that details the racket until I checked out the following from CBS’ 60 Minutes. As usual, the real money being made in the whole scheme is not centered around the people collecting the checks, but rather attorneys, doctors and even judges who grease the wheels of the $135 billion “disability-industrial-complex.”

For example, in the economically depressed border area of Kentucky and West Virginia we find 10%-15% of the population on disability, or three times the national average. The regional disability racket is essentially run by attorney Eric Conn, who’s clients for disability enjoy a 100% success rate thanks to Mr. Conn’s relationship with doctors and a local judge named David Daugherty.

Here are just a couple of examples of how Mr. Conn uses his advertising budget:

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Senator Tom Coburn explains to CBS’ 60 Minutes that:

Coburn says the report — to be released tomorrow — will show that Conn collected more than $13 million in legal fees from the federal government over the past six years and that he paid five doctors roughly $2 million to regularly sign off on bogus medical forms that had been manufactured and filled out ahead of time by Conn’s staff.

Just another scam from a scam economy. More from 60 minutes:

The hearing involves the Federal Disability Insurance Program, which could become the first government benefits program to run out of money. When it began back in the 1950s it was envisioned as a small program to assist people who were unable to work because of illness or injury.

 

Today, it serves nearly 12 million people — up 20 percent in the last six years — and has a budget of $135 billion. That’s more than the government spent last year on the Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department, and the Labor Department combined. It’s been called a “secret welfare system” with it’s own “disability industrial complex,” a system ravaged by waste and fraud. A lot of people want to know what’s going on. Especially Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma.

 

Tom Coburn: Go read the statute. If there’s any job in the economy you can perform, you are not eligible for disability. That’s pretty clear. So, where’d all those disabled people come from?

 

The Social Security Administration, which runs the disability program says the explosive surge is due to aging baby boomers and the lingering effects of a bad economy. But Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, the ranking Republican on the Senate Subcommittee for Investigations — who’s also a physician — says it’s more complicated than that. Last year, his staff randomly selected hundreds of disability files and found that 25 percent of them should never have been approved — another 20 percent, he said, were highly questionable.

 

Sen. Coburn says disability payments are now propping up the economy in some of the poorest regions in the country. Which is why he sent his investigators to the border area of Kentucky and West Virginia.

 

More than a quarter of a million people in this area are on disability — 10 to 15 percent of the population — about three times the national average. Jennifer Griffith and Sarah Carver processed disability claims at the Social Security regional office in Huntington, West Virginia.

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Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:29 | 4036771 g'kar
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More oinkers feeding at the trough.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:33 | 4036788 TeamDepends
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So half would screw the other half over for a wheelchair.  Don't like them odds.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:52 | 4036835 NoDebt
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It's only a 45% fraud rate.  No problem until it hits 51%.  So we're cool.  We're cool.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:01 | 4036986 Anusocracy
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I thought all the ones that couldn't work were employed by the government.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:59 | 4037069 Midas
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Suddenly that ginormous letter carrier driving across the front lawn is starting to look above average.  After all, she did assume a two point stance, if only for a short while.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 01:09 | 4037085 dannyboy
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Eric C Conn. Not even The Onion could have made a better name.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 01:32 | 4037099 Zero Point
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E C Conn

Easy Con

If this ain't the Onion, I've simply gone mad, and I'm currently under sedation somewhere, mumbling and thumping my head on a wall.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 03:19 | 4037172 zhandax
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Anyone watch to the end?  "Go now to what will happen to the SS Disability program if we don't fix it...Sponsored by Phizer".  Wonder who 60 minutes gets their money from?

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:56 | 4036840 lewy14
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OMG I'm just now realizing there's been massive disability fraud in this recovery said no honest person ever

Question: are Krieger and ZH unwitting pawns in this narrative, or willing accomplices?

Here's the thing. Dig through the links and you'll find this is a CBS 60 Minutes hit piece. 

Who's pushing the investigation? Tom Coburn. Anti tea party. Establishment Republican. Personally likes Obama.

Who's the senator from Kentucky? Rand Paul. One of the two heretic troublemakers. 

What do you think the people who advance this story would like to see? Maybe massive Federal prosecution and harrasment of Paul's constituents, eh? And who is this going to help, exactly? 

Good thing there's no horrible fraud perpetrated in the blue states. I was worred there for a minute.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:04 | 4036863 ronaldawg
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So hillbilly people are engaged in massive disability fraud?  Please say it ain't so.

Poor hillbilly people have been doing this since the 1960s.  The only problem is that they let it get this big.

This will cause a rollback of SSI payments for disability for everyone.  Eventually it will not be profitable for the lawyers and the claims will dry up.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:09 | 4036997 The Gooch
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Look into Binder and Binder's .gov milk profit margin.

Rhinestone cowpoke is raking it in.

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 07:57 | 4037355 Billy Sol Estes
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You have enough to worry about, like my Fedora in our commercials.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:06 | 4036869 macholatte
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What do you think the people who advance this story would like to see?

 

Why didn't they pick on California or Illinois or NY?

                  Good job looking under the sheets. 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:12 | 4036891 CheapBastard
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What was Eric's 800 number?

I think I seriously twisted my neck bones and lower back reading this article and can't get up for years...maybe forever....and the pain in my left foot is unbearable...not to mention seeing double b/c of this article....

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:57 | 4037837 Imminent Crucible
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Get me that number, too, CheapBastard. I read your comment and laughed so hard that I dislocated my duodenum. I don't think I'll ever be able to work again, and since I'm supposed to be at work right now, it's a work-related injury.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 01:02 | 4037076 drunkenlout
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"Why didn't they pick on California or Illinois or NY?"

That's actually a good question.  The answer is that SSDI doesn't pay enough to live in IL, CA, or NY.  But in impoverished Appalachia, it's sufficient.  Of course, there are impoverished areas of the wealthy states where it does pay enough, and we have fraudsters there.

I hurl and need a blood pressure check when amublatory, car-driving SSDI recipients tell me they're too proud to be on welfare.

 


Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:19 | 4037886 MachoMan
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In the states where it's too expensive for disability to pay for the cost of living, then "disabled" folks just work for the government proper...  aside from the fact that you can probably catch a significant number of the "disabled" working cash jobs.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:19 | 4036906 Jethro
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Hey, I don't much care for Coburn either. When he was going to go along with further gun control measures, I called his office and excoriated his staffer. Coburn is a political animal through and through. But, almost all of those assholes in DC are.  

Anybody that challenges the status quo are routinely called terrorists. DC started the histrionics against the vets with DHS, then on to most everybody else that couldn't loosely be defined as a socialist.  I have some bad news for DC. Keep calling conservatives "terrorists", and you'll create that nightmare.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:18 | 4037012 AmericanFUPAcabra
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Pretty sure that is the idea... Once the legal definition fits most of the populace its game on for those cumbags. They want us to drop the hat first

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 08:29 | 4037434 DaddyO
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THis is a highly probable scenario!

Just looking for an excuse to deploy the brownshirt army and the accompanying jackboot.

DaddyO

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 02:16 | 4037127 Hobbleknee
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I think it's a broader issue than that.  They pick on red states because it's trendy, but the real issue is that the government is broke, so now they're going to quit paying out on all their promises, supported by ludicrous claims that half the claims are fake.

Next they'll tell us there's no such thing as PTSD and after that, they'll raise the retirement age to 75.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 03:44 | 4037183 OldPhart
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"after that, they'll raise the retirement age to 75." um, they've already done that.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 02:35 | 4037143 Lost My Shorts
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Funny how any mention of dark-skinned people committing fraud sends the ZH crowd into a righteous frenzy.  But if it's white people committing fraud (challenging your basic Fox-News narrative about the country) then you start questioning the motives of the source.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 03:21 | 4037170 Serenity Now
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Your comment is BS.  First of all, there is NEVER any mention of blacks committing fraud in the MSM.  Second, we talk about white people committing fraud all the time....bankers, real estate, politicians, etc.  

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 06:35 | 4037272 Lost My Shorts
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Just go to google news and search on the phrases "welfare fraus" (1400 results), "disability fraud" (4,400 results), "food stamp fraud" (1,200 results).  Fraud is heavily covered in the media, and you can be sure lots of those cases involve blacks and browns.  Here is one:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/09/19/house-panel-looks-at-disability...

Do you think the WSJ is not main-stream enough?  Just another easy example of how you live in a "NEVER" land of your own invention, not the real world

There is a basic narrative on the Fox News right:  takers = black & tan.  When some evidence contradicts that narrative, you don't want to hear it, and question the motives of the source.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 07:29 | 4037329 Gold Eyed Cat
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OMG LMS you are so freeking right!  The whole country is so fucking racist! 

If only we could prove we weren't racists by voting for a kinda black president that has no qualifications at all, to rule us like Stalin.  Also, you know what would rock?  If the USDOJ attorney general was also black and totally enforced the laws in the entire country based soley on his desire to ignore crimes commited by "his people" while ruthlessly persecuting any white people that think laws are for everyone! 

Oh!  And then we could all be totally full of ourselves and arbitrarily accuse FOX News and people on websites like ZH of being racist haters!  And if anyone tries to deny they are racists, we could use Google and do random internet searches, use copy AND paste, and be like, "There you fucking racist!  See!  There are the LINKS of all your racism!  Go slit your racist wrists and bleed out on the floor!"

 

Seriously LMS shut the fuck up.  The country is in deep deep stinking shit and you want to make a big issue about what color to call it?  What a joke.

SN got it right.  Most people who post here are brutally aware of what the problems are, who is responsible and why they are motivated to continue doing it.  Only a fucking moron would try to make the point that white people are mean, and black and tan people are getting picked on.

 

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 08:00 | 4037360 Lost My Shorts
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Such a well-resoned retort makes me feel humble.  How can I measure up?  But what the hell.

Going back to the post that I replied to ... If Rand Paul is not a flaming hypocrite (who knows), he would be secretly glad for the 60 Minutes report.  He would want the fraud ended, but obviously it's politically awkward for him to take the lead.  So he would be glad outsiders forced the issue, so it can be resolved but his hands stay clean.  Still, the poster was quite sure this was a conspiricay against Rand Paul.  How to explain that?  Two possibilities I can think of:

1) Rand Paul is a flaming hypocrite, and to him and many of you, this is just a tribal conflict, and it's OK if your tribe steals but make a big fuss if the other tribe does.

2) The poster has a deep psychological dependence on the "black and tan = taker" narrative, and when presented with solid contrary evidence, he immediately maneuvers to question, downplay, diminish, and make it go away.

Color is very important, never mind if you don't understand that.  Everyone here thinks they are the smart ones, who see the truth, not the sheeple.  But a third of the people here are the worst type of sheeple, totally fallen for the divide and conquer race strategy worked by the elites.  As long as the population is thoroughly divided on color lines, no challenge to the elites is possible and you are all wasting your time.  Please note that I didn't raise the race issue.  The guy did to whom I was replying.  I was just pointing out what a mistake that is.  Sorry if I am a sour note in your echo chamber.

Your beliefs about who gets prosecuted in America are nonsense.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to count heads in jail and notice what color they are.  Blacks and browns are prosecuted, convicted, and incarcerated at a much higher rate.  Not to say they don't deserve it, but how can you even say such a ridiculous thing as that only whites are prosecuted?  How can you tell me to stfu when your worldview is based on such absurd denial of reality?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 08:02 | 4037370 Gold Eyed Cat
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I'm not reading that.  It smells of bull shit.  :p

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 09:53 | 4037654 yrbmegr
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One-third of black men in this country go to jail at some point in their lives.  It is extremely absurd to believe that is entirely due to black culture or black society, if that is even a thing.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 08:22 | 4037407 superflex
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Turtle Man is the other Senator from Kentucky.  Is he also on Senator Coburn's hit list?

Nice try.

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:24 | 4036991 Flagit
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well, sort of. im an expert here.

i spent close to 2 years living with someone that had a plan. he wanted to travel and stay in hotels, gamble in casinos, eat every meal in a restaurant. and the .gov was going to pay for it. its easy. he had a friend that draws disability for being a retard. its much easier to give the underachieving, crybaby retards money every month rather than scoop them off the street. it just ends up being spent anyway, so it really benefits the economy. much like snap, or link.

now, the first retard, lets call him collin, is a true retard. cant order a pizza without assistance or hold a job doing anything other than driving a cab. they are just that desperate for help. he actually needs/deserves the disability payments. otherwise, he just causing people problems.

now, the second retard, lets call him alex. alex found out that if he could just fool a doctor a few times, he could get disability payments and fund his perma-vacation. just to keep it short, he got it. but something started to change almost immediately. after talking to these doctors, and psychs, they helped him come to the conclusion...he actually needed them. they were right about everything that was wrong with him. now he gulps a handful of different pills every day, refuses to accept any form of responsibility, and prances around acting like hes on summer break.

what he didnt realize till later is that the piddly amount they do pay you, $400 and change/mo, isnt nearly enough to bop across the country at will. gulping these pills have shredded his ability to function. after about 15 minutes of conversation, you come to the conclusion that this dude is completely delusional, in denial, and a complete and total danger to the republic when you get 10 of them together, all trying to talk over each other in a fight to see who the bigger tard is. you just have to see it to believe it.

so, with that in mind, i would say that the 45% they are refering to, is just like, right on target.

OH, wheel chair. its not just physical dis. the mental dis is the real money maker.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:36 | 4037046 Secede Or Die
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Yeah, but..........He still get's his check, right?..............OK then.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 02:19 | 4037129 Hobbleknee
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" it just ends up being spent anyway, so it really benefits the economy. much like snap, or link."

broken-window fallacy

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:41 | 4036807 TideFighter
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Origin of the defininition "Conn Job"

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:14 | 4037005 prains
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this is what you get when you suck donkey balls for decades, a mean case of WTF, gotta love capitalism gone totally fucking insane.....with no membrane

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 08:40 | 4037473 CH1
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Correction: Statism gone totally insane.

Capitalism doesn't include stealing money from one group of people and giving it to another.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 07:50 | 4037344 j0nx
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Small potato racket compared to the wall street hucksters. Let's concentrate on wall street first and then we can crack down on hillbillys collecting $300 a month in disability. Keep your eye on the ball people.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:03 | 4037680 Obese-Redneck
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Nope, get these fuckers off the teat.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 08:31 | 4037433 SilverRhino
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damn

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 22:28 | 4040124 Buck Johnson
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It's called everybody out for themselves, pure and simple.  In a nation where the leaders are corrupt or partially corrupt, you can expect it to roll down hill to the lower rungs of society.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:32 | 4036779 Long-John-Silver
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There would be no Middle Class without Social Security Disability.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:31 | 4036780 drooley
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But.. Obama said "The US is not a deadbeat nation"

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:40 | 4036808 darteaus
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He says a lot of things that are only true if you squint, tilt your head and use your imagination.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:33 | 4036785 RafterManFMJ
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This article has made me depressed. Say... that gives me an idea..!

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:34 | 4036797 gbresnahan
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As the cliche goes, if you can't beat 'em join 'em.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:55 | 4036976 Anusocracy
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If they're disabled you should be able to chase them down and beat them.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 09:12 | 4037552 odatruf
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some of those scooters are pretty quick. And with the N2O package plus hole shot gearing modification...

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:42 | 4036813 toady
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Me too. I'm calling that dudes 800 number NOW!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 07:50 | 4037348 Disenchanted
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Does being butthurt by Ben qualify as a disability?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 08:40 | 4037472 DaddyO
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Yes, one that's almost impossible to recover from.

DaddyO

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:33 | 4036790 seek
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The one on the right.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:28 | 4037033 Flagit
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all three will need disability when im through poundin that ass.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:35 | 4036793 A Lunatic
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Just another example of trickle down dishonesty........

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:36 | 4036794 TheReplacement
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Cloward Piven in practice.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 08:54 | 4037501 DaddyO
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Exactly, a common cry on ZH is to let the mother burn down right?

Then an article like this gets posted and everyone decries the injustice of the FSA.

I say the more the merrier, let moar and moar sign up for SNAP, SSDI and WIC!

Collapse is imminent!!! /S

DaddyO

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:36 | 4036799 Keyser
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I personally know 3 deadbeats that are fully capable of working, but slipped through the cracks in the SSD program and now laze away the days on the public's tit. Makes me want to puke. 

 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:44 | 4036817 Trimmed Hedge
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I believe you can rat them out online at the SSD website, anonymously

Will anything come of it, though? Doubtful

But perhaps worth a try...

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:07 | 4036873 g'kar
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He'll get an IRS audit shortly after.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:48 | 4036963 XitSam
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Anonymous government website! Ha ha ha

1) shutdown  2) NSA

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:46 | 4037016 shinobi-7
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Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:46 | 4037054 shinobi-7
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What a superb idea! You're almost ready then. Have a look!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIuf1V1FhpY

 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:28 | 4036922 WillyGroper
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I too know both deserving and gamers that I had worked with at a good paying job. 

Now while all the myopic judgemental ones poke at the porkers, I'll give you another angle of trickel up BITCHEZ.

I retired from corporate not medicare eligible. I and many others who left before our fucking pensions were stolen got while the gettin was good. Better early than a nano second late. ALL of us have received 2 different letters from ALLSUP. Worded like a robo telephone credit card scammer call. You must reply as if our benefits were hanging in the balance. WE FUCKING KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO WHACK THEM, IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF WHEN. This is corporate trying to clear their balance sheet of the obligations, paying ALLSUP for their services to help us. Get it? To help us. The MFr's can't prop up their balance sheet anymore with creative accounting. They've cut the fat, meat & are down to the bone. Barely able to run the business & shitty when they do.

So focus on the fatties, it's WAY more trickle up than down. What's coming down is yellow not green. But don't take my word for it. See for yourself.

http://www.allsup.com/

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 04:19 | 4037200 Oleander
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If a parent get disability the kids get a check too. Yes, each child is eligible until 18 for benefits.

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 06:09 | 4037259 homme
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30+ years ago, I needed to replace a damaged SS card. At the SS office, the first person behind a desk that I encountered was old woman that looked to be in her late 60's. On one of her arms she was missing a hand. On the other arm she had but two fingers. She was responsible for filling out the paperwork with a ink pen for whatever your visit required. She did all of this very well despite her obvious handicaps. Of course it was no accident she was there in the front for everyone to see and it left a lifelong impression on me. Everyone can do something- and they should. Besides the obvious theft from our fellow countrymen, psychologically it's self destructive for a person to be dependent and unproductive. And making illigitiment children doesn't count.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 17:38 | 4039350 jerry_theking_lawler
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Ha. You only know 3....hell, I have 3 immediate family members that are doing this....plus a couple of other relatives.....and then multiple others I know pesonally....about 1/2 of them have cash jobs they work on the side (for teh right people and in the right places....all so they can't get caught working).....all told, they probably gross about the equivalent of a 60k/yr person....when in actuality, they could only make about 20-25k in their 'normal' jobs.....

 

just another piece of the Grand Illusion.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:39 | 4036803 q99x2
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These SSI folks are the ones the banksters are paying off to keep them from rising up in revolution. Same thing with students. With students that take out loans it is a little different but for the most part the same. Many other ways as well. Washington D.C. is an enemy regime that has abused their right to rule. 

By the time 60 minutes finds out about what everyone else has known for years the game is getting old.

But 60 minutes did not explain the truth about who it is pulling this shit. Instead they did a repeat of the housing collapse:  "It was the fraudulent home applicants that caused the 2008 financial collapse."

Fuck 60 Minutes.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:50 | 4036827 NoDebt
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Exactly.  Perfect description.  I even like the parallel you drew to the housing bubble/collapse coverage.  Couldn't agree more.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:16 | 4036870 ronaldawg
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Yayyyy - revolution by people on disabilty.

TAKE AWAY THEIR WALKERS NOW!!!!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 05:34 | 4037245 Disenchanted
Wed, 10/09/2013 - 08:41 | 4037469 RedHarley
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Hoveround made their DNC contribution.......Scooter Store should have done the same.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:54 | 4036843 Surging Chaos
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Well, we can't have 60 Minutes questioning the Fed. Right?!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:30 | 4037043 Flagit
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did you notice at the very end who the sponsor was?

 

Phizer.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 05:43 | 4037248 syntaxterror
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Rise up in revolution? The lazy motherfuckers in the USA? Sure, right. Rising up off the sofa is more like it.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:41 | 4036806 darteaus
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70% of my local fire"fighters" retire on disability - at the age of 48.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:44 | 4036811 FuzzyDunlop21
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As a disabled person I just need to say that people who are actually disabled dont qualify for disability. Anyone who has a real disability (eg cant walk like me) has enough character and self respect to not only work but abhor anyone who offers us a handout or any sort of advantage out of pity. Dont get it twisted disability goes to people who dont work, not people who cant work. I dont know how so many of my countrymen can be so fucking shameless as to accept a check for doing nothing

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:02 | 4036855 infinity8
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Personal experience has taught me that most people who are truly disabled WANT to work for a living. They don't even want a hand opening a door unless they can tell you're not an asshole.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:07 | 4036871 ronaldawg
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My wife can't walk and doesn't want to work.  It is called LAZY.  Some people just have it and shouldn't be paid to sit at home.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:23 | 4036910 infinity8
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I didn't down you and I don't know what the fuck your comment is trying to say. She "can't" walk? Because she's super-fat or disabled like CP or MD or MS, or 1,000 other things that are legit? Guess you're liking the check.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:45 | 4036816 DirkDiggler11
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Shit like this story, going on for years by the way, is why I keep buying more ammo and keeping a light coat of oil on my weapons...

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:47 | 4036818 NoDebt
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I'm sorry, WHO made it all possible?  The local ambulance chaser and some back-woods judge?  I seriously doubt they would be allowed to pull this off for so long without at least the tacit blessing of the liberal/statists who just want more dependent people on the roles to continue to vote for them.

I know 4 people personally who are on disability.  One is legit (the crane he was working on collapsed under him and dropped him 5 stories onto pavement).  The other three will tell you outright they're scamming the system and have the nerve to bitch they aren't getting a big enough yearly increase.

 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:45 | 4036959 Meat Hammer
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Those assholes will get the karma rebate, somehow, some day.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:53 | 4036972 XitSam
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They will be reincarnated with a real disability ... when there are no more disability payments. 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:17 | 4037002 Jethro
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Posted twice? Thanks Obama....

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:14 | 4037004 Jethro
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Or, with any luck, they'll be born into a family in the slums of New Delhi and sold to the hijras as a young boy, then emasculated in a back alley with a rusty knife, then forced to beg for a living in a sari.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:30 | 4037945 MachoMan
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Exactly.  Unemployment, disability, SNAP, you name it...  all directed to keep people docile and from breaking the toys of anyone with money.  Simple as that.  The social safety net doesn't exist out of the kindness of society's heart...  it exists so that the traditional order of things can remain. [also, states don't give a shit about gaming money out of the federal government...  thanks to the SCOTUS, the FFCA/Qui tam doesn't apply to the states...  this type of thing is STATE SANCTIONED...  which is why "congress needs to have a debate" on it (and it isn't the only program where this happens)].

The "outrage" expressed by virtually everyone isn't that the entire system is fucked, rather it's that some people are better at gaming the system than others.  The entire economy is nothing more than a game of hungry hippos, where the government places the marbles in the center of each round...  if you want to fix things, then cut off the spigot...  until that day, we're just jerking off. 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:46 | 4036822 screw face
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..it's the frick'en Doctors and Lawyers...raking and enabling

federal workers and contractors...hearings, meetings, enabling

Bankers ......banking there %..enabling

 

some are raking...... most are getting squat...see the above.

 

 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:06 | 4036878 ronaldawg
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The correct legal term is CHURN.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:49 | 4036824 SillySalesmanQu...
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My last two brain cells have been on life support for years due to too much scotch, weed and cigs...do I qualify for disabillity?

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:11 | 4036888 ronaldawg
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I have a penchant for pornography - I cannot sit still for more than 15 minutes without watching porn.  Do I qualify?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:14 | 4037006 bonin006
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No, you do not qualify. You could obviously get a job working for the SEC.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:33 | 4037947 MachoMan
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It's cheaper to pay him disability...

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:47 | 4036825 TrustbutVerify
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Oh, what a surprise. 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:52 | 4036828 are we there yet
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It was predicted amazingly well back in 1958.

http://youtu.be/MVb59TS6LQ0

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:11 | 4036886 Shell Game
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+100  When you understand your enemy with crystal clarity, like Welch did, these predictions come easily. 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:53 | 4036833 JLee2027
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We have a Liesman, an Obamination and now a Conn. What a surprise.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:54 | 4036839 Gadfly
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Okay, let's see.  Let's say their 45% estimate is not an exaggeration (very unlikely).  But for purposes of discussion let's do the math:  45% x 135 billion equals 60.75 billion.

Now let's compare that figure to bank and corporate welfare/fraud/theft in the amount of trillions per year.  Wait... there's no fucking comparison.  Disability fraud is a drop in the bucket compared to the financial rape of the U.S. being committed on a daily basis by central banks and defense contractors and corporations. Isn' this article simply another diversion from the real problem?   

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:01 | 4036850 Jeepers Creepers
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Two wrongs don't make a right.

These sort of entitelments do far more damage than just to our national debt, it rots away a nation's character to have millions pretending they're disabled so they don't have to work.  It's startling how many people I know are on disability that aren't actually disabled.

It's sickening, I'd rather blow the money on a dumb government project than create a nation of entitlement slaves.

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:04 | 4036992 Gadfly
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I agree.  A cheat is a cheat.  Both are wrong.  Both are evidence of a general moral decay.  But the scope and quantitative size of the two wrongs doesn't compare.  It's like comparing an ice cube to an iceberg.  One can sink the Titanic.  The other one will barely get your toes wet.  I know hundreds of people and I can honestly say I don't know anyone who collects disabiltiy.  In fact, everyone I know seems to work their fucking ass off, day and night.   

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:35 | 4037957 MachoMan
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The issue isn't that fraud is being found and remedied...  the issue is in the order of operation.  Why do we tackle this issue and not larger dollar amounts first?

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 22:59 | 4036853 Jethro
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Seems like comparing pickpockets to corporate embezzlers. Both need to hang IMHO.

 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:02 | 4036859 Herkimer Jerkimer
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Start going through the weasels, one at a time.

Hunt each one down and make them pay it back. All of it.

 

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V-V

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:02 | 4036865 q99x2
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The Department of Justice (think Holder)  is going to determine if Conn was a con.

You've got to be kidding me. He's part of the gang that is paying the people not to march on the Hamptons and at the same time preparing the DHS for a take down of the United States of America. Why don't you report about that 69 Minutes M'Fers.

In California people can walk in and get about $200 cash and $200 EBT monthly without SSI. SSI on the low end (without having a job for 10 years prior) amounts to around $850 per month. I don't know how much money total welfare is compared to SSI but it will certainly go up if SSI goes down.

Anyhow this is not a social issue of the citizens but a mililtary issue for those to address against those that are attacking the United States of America. In a war explosive weapons are only used as a last resort.

The banksters are getting close to going physical.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:05 | 4036874 Nobody
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This reminds me of the time 10 years ago when a doctor came through a local small town accompanied by a lawyer signing families up for their children's' "Crazy Checks"..
All these normal children are now on mood altering drugs and live with stigma of "Crazy".
Is America not a great place or what?

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:10 | 4036880 valkir
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I read ZH every day,hit the site 15-20 times a day,i guess i am mentaly dissable.Where should i apply for free monney,to stay home,and check ZH from my laptop,not strugling from my phone or tablet?

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:37 | 4036941 James
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Where do I apply?

 

http://www.ssa.gov/pgm/disability.htm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:14 | 4036890 IridiumRebel
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Credit scores tied to health care premiums?

This should be great.

Many people signing up for health care in Florida through the Affordable Care Act have been shocked when they have to give proof of their credit score before they finish the process. Anne Packham, one of many people licensed by the state to help people navigate the government's website, said on Tuesday that the credit check occurs so providers can make an educated decision about who to insure."If someone is defaulting on all of their bills they may not want to have them as part of their health plan," said Packham, the lead Navigator in Florida.

Participants with low credit scores could end up paying higher premiums, according to Packham, who said that ultimately the insurance company makes the call.

The government website healthcare.gov has regularly been bogged down, oftentimes showing users a message saying, "We have a lot of visitors on the site."

"We have a mixed bag right now," said Packham, referring to users being able to successfully navigate the site.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/credit-scores-impacting-new-affordable-...

 

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My favorite quote from comments:

This is awesome. The low information voters who wanted free healthcare are also most likely to have credit scores somewhat near their IQ. These people are going to be paying more than the rest of us for what they thought would be free.

It's called PAYBACK Baby, ain't it a bee-itch?
Own it you fools.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:54 | 4037063 Jena
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I didn't see that one coming, even when I read something about Experian being used to verify identity as one of the first steps in the process.

But it's what I'd call one helluva punch line!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 02:02 | 4037114 I Write Code
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They won't be paying more because they won't be paying anything, they'll either be on Medicaid or they'll be 90% subsidized by your tax dollars.  Only the insurance companies come out ahead.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:38 | 4037980 MachoMan
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Bingo.  We're supposed to add 10's of millions to the insurance rolls, but yet this is going to be cheaper?  Ok, so decrease coverage, increase deductibles, and increase premiums for everyone else and presto-chango, we've got a winner.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:30 | 4036929 shinobi-7
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Empty malls where all the parkings around the Mac Donald are for people with disabilities. With fast food joints chewing their muscles and I-phones chewing their brains, half the population will soon be handicapped. Wall-e's world without the robot!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:34 | 4037042 W74
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Why would they need parking spaces?  When I go running one of my routes takes me past a Taco Bell.  It's on the corner so I get a nice wraparound view of the drive-thru as I'm making the turn.  It's nothing but fatties sitting in their SUV's.

And do you know what they do?

I'll tell you what they do:  They look at me. 

They look at me and they know....they know deep down in the innermost chamber of their hearts that they could look like me if they tried.

But they won't.  They won't even start trying.  It's too hard for them.

(but they'll still wish they could look like me and wonder why they weren't "blessed" like all those thin people putting time and effort into something....into anything at all)

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:38 | 4036945 dick cheneys ghost
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this is what happens when a ''reserve currency'' is on its last leg.............

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:41 | 4036951 One of We
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Just call Saul.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:28 | 4037038 W74
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Or Chaim.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:43 | 4036954 notadouche
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Does anyone commenting on this site actually know anyone that is on or has applied for disability.  It's been my experience that there is nothing evern remotely close to being a slam dunk.  You have a real disability, you have a doctor willing to put his reputation on the line, for no kickback mind you, and then submit.  Get automatically turned down in order to weed out half from continuing.  The scam that comes involved is the fact that the government forces a person to hire an attorney to push paperwork forward.  At best there is a 2 year waiting period for a final denial or acceptance at which point you have to get evaluated by government paid doctor to see if you are lying more than evaluate your disability.  From my experience, the honest people on disability, going through the proper process and legitimate get hung out to dry for years before you get a portion of what the person was making at the time of disability.  The process is being grossly mischaracterized.  To treat everyone as if they were some ditch digger faking a back injury for a small check is bullshit political posturing in the same vein as "hate the rich" is.

Now of course the scam artist may be getting some type of different deal but as in every case of life, to cast aspersions on an entire group because of a few scammers iis flat out wrong.  And if this politician has direct knowledge of disability scams then he should personally go shut them down instead of talking shit.   

Finally, why are all the problems laid at the doorstep of the "hillibilly south"?  What a crock of shit.  Most "hillibillies" actually live off their land, they know how to hunt, grow their own garden and run a trot line, believe me country folks can survive!  

This article is about 95% bullshit but it sure reads well and taps into the emotions of some of the most ignorant, gullable people as it pertains to SSi.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:02 | 4036988 adr
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I know quite a few. My neighbor is "disabled", she says she can't work, yet she drives her Nissan Pathfinder every day. I've talked to a few Obaminites that even told me which lawyer to call to gets my money if I wants it.

My sister applied and was denied because she went through reputable doctor. She had two vertebrae fused and can't stand for more than an hour before the pain gets the best of her. Sitting in a chair can be just as bad. She was in a car accident and after repeated back problems and bulging discs, they singed a few nerves and fused two lower vertebrae.

However if her employer buys her a proper ergonomic chair and allows her to take breaks, she can work. Since she can work, her claim was denied.

Which is why I say at least 75% of disabity awards are fraudulent. The only doctors and lawyers in the business of disability are the ones scamming the system, because they are taking the cash and hoping they will never get caught.

Or do you think every person in a car wreck really got a neck injury?

Every insurance company will settle a claim for $25k or less. They won't even try to go to trial because it will cost them more in legal fees than the settlement. You think the majority of personal injury lawyers don't know that?

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:28 | 4037035 W74
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I fought for a year and a half because a girl with a broken thumb (A BROKEN THUMB) was trying to get 50K out of me for a wreck that she caused.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 01:02 | 4037077 Jena
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My husband's nephew has been trying to get disability because of a very rare spinal tumor that has made it impossible for him to walk, let alone work.  It's been three years, multiple surgeries (with more to come) and he's had nothing but denials.  An attorney hasn't helped so now a differrent attorney.  I don't doubt that is plenty of fraud in the system because there's money and that always attracts fraud.  But there are real disabled people trying to get help, too.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 01:15 | 4037089 W74
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And nobody here is suggesting otherwise.

But how do you cull the bastards who are faking it from the system while still helping those who truly need help (and I'm not such a cruel monster as to deny assistance to the truly disabled, what kind of animals would we be at that point?) and thus make the system fair?

Now what I was talking about was a car accident I had in 2011 where the girl sued me trying to get 50k.  That's a fuckton of money and for a broken thumb.  Completely separate situation. 

And of course I did not write about this before, but I will comment on this accident from 2011 anyway.  Did this girl work?  No she did not.  Was she on disability? I never found positive proof.  Did all of her witnesses (those in the car with her) happen to have prior drug convictions?  Yes two of them absolutely did.  Again, completely separate incident which cost me money not only in needing a new car, but also in lost time, a TON of stress, and more money retaining a lawyer in case SHTF regarding my case.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 01:54 | 4037110 Jena
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Culling the bastards who are faking it from while still helping those who truly need it would entail modifying the system so no doctors (or other healthcare types_ or lawyers can make much money from each client they send through the system -- yes, actively cut down on fraud but also cut down on people being passed through just because there is money in numbers.

It would mean evaluating patients in a careful way and maybe using lie detectors tests as part of the evaluation because while many ailments are truly hard to evaluated, true disability is not exploding in the way that it appears to be.  It is a lousy economy and people are looking for an easy way out.  And why not?  They know they are being screwed by ... someone, right?  Screw honesty.

You got hosed by her having witnesses and you being an attractive target.  Many sympathies.  Hope it wasn't too bad.

 

Tell your cop friend to breathe deeply.  He will be burnt to a crisp in a couple of years at this pace.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:49 | 4038010 MachoMan
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Scamming the system is an interesting phrase...  the ambulance chaser/SS lawyers are merely presenting a claim...  you can make false allegations in a complaint (that you don't know to be false), but it is for the trier of fact to determine whether they are false.  If the administrative judge rubberstamps the application, then it's on him.  If the only evidence the judge has in front of him is a medical diagnosis consistent with someone who can't work, testimony of the applicant who says he can't work, and there is nary a contrary bit of evidence, then how could you not approve it?  This is the issue...  the system is broken...  they're not scamming the system, rather they're just operating within the confines of the system as it was designed (there are obviously plenty of situations where all parties are in on the bribe racket, but that wasn't presented in the 60 minutes video).  The system has inherent design flaws...  this is what needs to be addressed.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:25 | 4037027 W74
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I half agree and half disagree with your post so I will neither give you and up or down.

I have a friend who is a police officer (one of the few honest ones, and I honestly believe and trust this man that he is in the job for the right reasons) who generally works in a relatively poor(er) part of the county.

But every time I see him and we're both bitching about work and women (as men do) he tells of yet another arrest and another arrest....

"So what is it you do?"

"Oh I on dizabiwidy"

"What's wrong with you?"

"Awww man you no"

"No I don't know, tell me, there has to be something wrong with you"

"Oh I got depression"

"DEPRESSION!!!!  ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS!?!?!?!?!."

So when he flips a gasket and starts screaming at the guy (mind you this is one of the honest cops who legitimately does his job) his buddies have to come in and pull him away and is then reprimanded (nothing bad) by his supervisor. 

But this is a semi-normal occurrance.  What the hell are honest people working for when the lazy can get paid a middle class wage for sitting on their butts?

 

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 03:08 | 4037164 the tower
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The problem is that, in order to sell as many anti-depressants as possible, the definition of depression had to be made as broad as possible.

The pharma lobby managed to do this, and therefore a case of the blues is now sufficient to put you on anti-depressants, and on disability.

Corporate America (and corporate world for that matter) is destroying society from within.

Now they are trying to do the same thing with obesity. Funny thing is that the food industry, pharma industry and weight loss industry are all in the same basket, often the same company is stuffing you first, then making you feel bad about yourself, put you on anti-depressants and a diet - and more pills (cholesterol is a killer you know...).

Rinse and repeat. Win - Win - Win.

The great thing about this - for corporate America - is that when you are on disability, there really is nothing else to do than eat and watch TV, getting more unhealthy all the time, being a slave of the hand that feeds you, and gives you your pills. You're just an enabler, a reason to funnel money from the government to corporations. You're just a maggot without the chance of even becoming a flie.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 01:56 | 4037108 drunkenlout
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I am a retired director of a rehabilitation center for people with disabilities.  I've known thousands of people with disabilities.  Those with the most severe disabilities, who would not be questioned if they applied for SSI or SSDI, have been the people who were most motivated to get jobs and become independent.  Those with the least disabling conditions, like soft-tissue back injury, carrdiac problems, or personality disorders were least motivated to work.  Over and over, I've seen the Downes Syndrome person get a job before the guy with the mere physical injury.  

Also, commenters should note that SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is different from SSDI (Social Security Disability).  The fraud referenced in the article is mostly SSDI. 

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:45 | 4036960 ebworthen
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Damn, if I can haves me some time with those babes and live off the dole, why the fuck not?

Don't misunderstand, I've worked and been responsible and saved and done the honorable citizen shit for over 35 years.

Fact is, the Government has bailed out the fucks on Wall Street and the Corporate and Insurance assholes on the backs of me, my children, and grandchildren.

The most noble, honest, moral, and patriotic thing I can do is to fuck those god-damned immoral malfeasant bitch born worthless maggots in any fucking way I can!!!

FUCK YOU ALL TO HELL!!!

THIS IS WAR!!!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 06:33 | 4037273 negative rates
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You may need some more ammo, lets go to the library, to the long tall bank on the main street, you know the one I mean.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:48 | 4036965 Jugdish
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I know a lot of you guys think this article is funny but my doctor has diagnosed me with an advanced medical condition where I have to masterbate frequently. It's a condition while in order for me to be employed my employer (the SEC) has to accomodate my condition which involves 3 25minute breaks in the uni-sex restroom facility to relieve my medical condition. I'm only able to work part time 35hrs per week and I also receive a check for my disability. Some of the people in the office don't understand my condition and are openly hostile toward me. People with medical conditions are people an deserve th right to work and that's what makes the Affordable Care Act so great because everyone is now covered.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:00 | 4036983 ebworthen
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May the Lord be with you, Brother.

Work on Wall Street by any chance?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 06:37 | 4037275 negative rates
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MSM.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:47 | 4036968 adr
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You want disability, make the program local. The further you move the administration of a program, the more fraud you get.

48% fraud is low. I'd put it to 75% or more. Just walking around a parking lot and seeing "disabled" people get in huge SUVs proves that. 

At this point, shut it all down. SSDI, EBT, HEAP, WIC, and everything else. Fuck them all. 

Oh you don't want to work and want a hand out. LIFE IS A BITCH, GO FUCK YOURSELF AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO FEED YOUR FAT ASS WITHOUT TAKING IT OUT OF MY HARD EARNED MONEY!

There is charity for a reason. Is it harsh? Yes, but that's the point. 

I watched a fat fuck with two lazy fat fuck kids ring up $475 in groceries in front of me yesterday. Of course she pulled out her Ohio Direction Card and swiped away. $475 worth of food she didn't work for. Am I supposed to feel sorry for her? No, I'd rather run her down with my car. I should have knocked the bitch over and taken the food and put it in my trunk. Hell, I paid for it. Of course the parking lot camera would have caught that, and then I'd probably be charged with a hate crime.

I'm sorry that some people really are disabled, but you don't have the government pay them off. Life isn't fair. All this shit that is destroying the lives of the productive all comes from the progressive lie that the government can make life fair. IT CAN'T. All it can do is destroy the lives of the people so everyone can be miserable together, but guess what. Then it's fair and equal, and actually it is what the progressives mean when they say it.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:03 | 4036990 ebworthen
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God bless you.

I feel your pain.

You are right, but the U.S.S.A. has crossed the Rubicon.

The harder you work and the more you make the more that will be taken from you.

Doesn't matter how you vote, not in the least little scintilla of a bit of difference.  Join the dole or the 1%.

In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, Amen.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:09 | 4036995 Godisanhftbot
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 C'mon now, you just don't like big fat bastards. Think of all the Soylent Green they will provide.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:59 | 4037067 dark_matter
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Sorry to disagree, but soylent green is protein, not fat. I'm afraid the big fat bastards won't make the cut, kind of like Charlie the Tuna.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:11 | 4037000 W74
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Worse are the men in their twenties and thirties.

I have so many memories of working in Baltimore (all the streets/rows look the same; so do all the thugs) where you just KNOW that these grown men are not all working the night shift and are hanging out on the corner from the time they wake up around 11 to long past the time for going home.

Many of them walk to the liquor store (everyone knows what's in the black bag dude!!) as soon as they're up and openly drink on the front stoops while the kids watch (and learn).

And who's paying for all this liquor and thuggery and hanging out?.....

Not one.  NOT FUCKING ONE, ever came up to me or my boss or any of my co-workers and asked for a job.  Not one.  But they were more than happy to walk on by watching men from outside their town come in and work.  So fucking sick this society we live in.  They can starve and their kids too.  I know it's not the kids' faults, but damn they're just going to produce more of the same.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:55 | 4036975 ASACJon
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Your one stop shop for all your legal needs: 505-503-4455
(Not Toll Free!)

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 23:57 | 4036979 Seasmoke
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They didn't mention if you are disabled you CAN NOT WORK. Makes sense.

 

Unless you are a disabled public taker. Not only do they get 300 % higher disability checks, THEY CAN GO BACK TO WORK AND COLLECT THAT CHECK.

 

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A MUCH BIGGER SCAM !!!!.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:21 | 4037024 James
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My 48 yr. old neighbor is on SSDI. He's pretty messed up. He tells me he can collect and still earn $1,005 p/mo. working.

Part of the SSDI program allows you, w/a approved concept, to start a business. They give you your SSDI for business purposes like lease, etc. and put you on SSI and Medicaid and foodstamps until your business takes off. Strict standards and reporting to SS for this,Their goal is to get you back working.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 06:40 | 4037279 negative rates
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I call bullshit.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:58 | 4037827 James
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Here's a link describing the program

 

http://ilr-edi-r1.ilr.cornell.edu/pass/index.cfm

 

And yes,SS encourages you to get back to work by letting you earn $$$$$$. This goes on 'til you either show you can't in fact work...........or you can and they stop paying you.

 

Other than historically poor economic areas where their is no work available why would anyone get on it? 1k a month or less  does'nt go far.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:01 | 4036987 Trimmed Hedge
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If you go to some of the MSM sites, whenever they post an article about the govt shut-down -- and especially about the national park closings -- you'll find in the comment section a LOT of pissed-off people. Quite a few are talking about going head-to-head with DC & their thugs, revolution, violence, etc. Happy to see that!

Of course, a little "flame-fanning" goes a long way, too... ;)

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:06 | 4036993 W74
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I flame the fans on Yahoo.  Lotttttts of peple waking up.  Only the most vehemently stupid are clinging on.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:11 | 4036998 kchrisc
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If they are bitching because their precious "big brother" is shutdown, then it means nothing. If they are beginning to realize how criminal and treasonous these people are then bring on the guillotines.

"It isn't 'shutdown' until the guillotines come out."

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 04:50 | 4037220 22winmag
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Reality is intruding. The Wizard of Oz's curtain is being torn down like never before.

 

The drop in the standard of living is suddenly reaching areas of the country and parts of our lives it never has before.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:06 | 4036994 Godisanhftbot
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 THe only way you gonna stop shit like this is to make the penalty 100 times the gain and ENFORCE IT.

 Take it all, throw them out on the street, let them starve.

 

 Bet most of it stops right pronto when the 'peoples' get the woid(sic).

 

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 05:04 | 4037230 The Abstraction...
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For many, it was the threat of being forced out of homes they could not afford to live it that caused them to fake disability. The best way to stop the shit is to send foreigners back home, confiscate the property of the PC tard elite, and then give it to the poor. Two birds, one stone.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:20 | 4037022 WTFUD
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I was under the assumption that everyone born in the ussa automatically qualified for disability allowances.
( present company excepted )

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:24 | 4037026 pitz
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Where are the jobs for these people to actually work?

Fraud is unfortunate, but if you dig into the stories of most of these people, they're a heck of a lot more honest than the Wall Street crowd that has basically spent the past 30 years on Fed/government welfare in some form or another.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:51 | 4037059 IridiumRebel
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If you're bored, give the park Rangers at Yellowstone a little call and tell them how you feel about them playing Gestapo. Fuckin pieces of shit.

307-344-7381

I'm finding all of their numbers and posting them everywhere.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 00:58 | 4037065 DarthVaderMentor
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I am sending my old wife to Aruba for special Obamacare Medicaid treatment as a "stranded asset collateral for Medicaid" once she signs the Medicaid contract and then zero hedge my future by moving by myself to Kentucky to see if those "SSDI Navigators" ladies can help me find the way to SSDI nirvana!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 01:22 | 4037095 dale digler
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Exactly, I've been talking about this for a few years now, and it is a scam that I think is closer to half of all claims. I'm willing to wager that most every adult American knows someone who is on disability, and that someone is not truly disabled. Clearly, there are many legitimate cases caused by birth, disease, or accident, and those are almost always visible to the untrained eye.

The problem is work related injuries, including military, in which the disability is not seen, but felt only by the claimant. Most injuries are relatively minor and almost all temporary. At worst, a change of employment is in order. But how do you get a lifetime lottery ticket to the forever fund with a minor or only temporary injury? All you need is an ambulance chasing lawyer, a pay for play doctor, and a weak kneed system of inclusion to rubber stamp a majority of claims.

There is no secret to what's going on in Kentucky-West Virginia. Just like welfare in the inner cities, it is passed down from generation to generation by close knit communities, crossing family lines all the way from parent to kid to 3rd cousin. Once you're in, you become the gatekeeper, spreading the word to the clan on the intracacies of gaming the system, and "Getting what's yours." You wrench your back, neck, shoulder, or knee at home, then go to your crappy job feeling fit as a fiddle, only to incur an unforeseen job injury where a lawsuit may also be on the docket for good measure.

If you don't have the groin to physically hurt yourself, the physchological injury pays well to, plus you get some great meds thrown in to keep that floating feeling 24/7. Contact your friendly doctor, give him a little grease, and he'll hook you right up.

In America today, there is little incentive to work a regular paying job. Why work when you can get yourself into one of these forever funds, make good money, bang some more out on the side for extras, hang with your homies, watch 500 channels of cable; or visit your favorite porn site at will,  and get your high whenever the mood strikes. Sure beats working 8-4:30 humping bricks, working an assembly line, cleaning up someone else's garbage, typing/phoning in a box cubicle, or some other sucky-ass customer service related drudgery.

Come to think of it, typing this comment must have done something to my wrist, and my neck. And tomorrow, I got to do some lifting at work. Hmm... what's that 1-800 get paid for life number again? Unfortunately, my code that was instilled while growing up won't allow for the easy way out. Besides, someone has to work to pay for all those that don't. Gotta love America, and modern day expedience.

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