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Guest Post: Citizens Are The Soylent Green Of Today's Politics

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Originally posted at Monty Pelerin's World blog,

Neither American political party is worth supporting. Each has interests inconsistent with those of the American public. The claimed political differences are mostly cosmetic, designed for marketing advantage. Both parties act in their self interest which does not coincide with that of the citizens or the well-being of the country.

Each party behaves like a self-serving criminal gang. The quaint concept of serving the public exists no longer. Routinely they exempt themselves  from the rules and laws they impose on the rest of the country. Their policies enrich the political class while the rest of the country becomes poorer.

Mark Twain described Congress as our ”distinctly native American criminal class.” Albert J. Nock went further, generalizing Twain’s somewhat parochial observation:

Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class

Lest the reader think these two individuals confused or biased, a more complete collection of quotes on government is available here: Do Only Dumb People Believe in Government?

How The Game Changed

As government grew in size and influence, the rewards associated with political office grew. Sacrifice and service were displaced with the opportunity for personal spoils. The motivation subtly changed from service to the accumulation of wealth. Mother Theresa quietly morphed into Gordon Gecko.

Today, politics is considered a lucrative career choice, not service to one’s country. The rise of the professional politician was never anticipated by the Founders of the nation. Yet, had the Constitution been strictly adhered to, the improper incentives that drove the change could never have occurred.

Criminal activity always promises higher returns than legal activity, especially for the less talented. This form of monopoly profit always attracts the most ruthless. Prohibition, as an example, provided the opportunity for excess profits that attracted many a thug. The beginnings of US organized crime syndicates are widely believed to have started as a result.

Monopoly profits now are possible for the ruthless who enter public office. Furthermore, as lawmakers their risk of being prosecuted for wrongdoing is reduced. Is it any surprise that we have the motley cast of political leaders currently vying for dominance?

Once the potential for excess returns was added to politics, morality and ethics were displaced with the “whatever it takes” approach of organized crime. Today’s politicians abide by the same ethics and morality that characterized the old-time bootleggers. In two respects dealing with bootleggers was more satisfying:

  • Dealing with a bootlegger was a voluntary transaction.
  • If you chose to, you presumably received a useful product in return.

The New Role of Constituents

The concept of political service has been replaced by that of masked exploitation. The public is no longer viewed as clients or constituents to be served. Instead they have become political prey. Politicians see the public as a collection of wallets and votes, fair game to be hunted as the means to expand power and wealth. Constituents are now the Soylent Green of the political food chain.

The political class assumes the public exists to serve them, not the other way around. Public participation beyond the lightening of wallets or the provision of votes is unwelcome. It is considered “interference” that must be deterred by the ruling class.

The political class is now a huge, voracious parasite. Like the plant in the Little Shop of Horrors, its needs have grown to the point where it threatens anything productive. Its needs now exceed the willingness for continued sacrifice on the part of the productive. The parasite threatens the very existence of the host.

The political Ponzi scheme of tax, borrow and spend has reached its limit. Either it will die when citizens turn on it or it will kill the productive, ensuring its own destruction.

It perishes in the end. Whether it takes civilization with it is the bigger question.

 

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Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:33 | 4037769 zorba THE GREEK
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To some degree, all history has been like this.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:33 | 4037772 Careless Whisper
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Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:34 | 4037782 Pladizow
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Pepsi vs. Coke - Different cans, same shit inside.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:39 | 4037797 Stackers
Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:07 | 4037861 MillionDollarBonus_
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I can hardly think of a more selfless career choice than going into politics. Politics is not for the faint hearted. Think of working 16 hour days with the press scrutinizing your every move 24/7. You have to stay absolutely up to date on issues ranging from finance and transport to military operations, and the decisions you make influence millions of peoples’ lives. Could any of you live with that responsibility? Could of any of you doomer pyjama-traders handle the pressure of the paparazzi? I didn’t think so.

The idea that someone would go into such a competitive and relentless field without a strong selfless desire to make society a better place is an astonishingly absurd proposition. It’s actually quite deranged.

http://accredited-times.com/2013/10/08/why-unions-are-the-champions-of-american-freedom/

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:15 | 4037879 Newfie
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Cool story bro! How's the kool aid today?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:59 | 4038067 Manthong
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There is not really much more to be said about this issue, and it was said over 200 years ago..

“Our country is too large to have all its affairs directed by a single government. Public servants at such a distance, and from under the eye of their constituents, must, from the circumstance of distance, be unable to administer and overlook all the details necessary for the good government of the citizens; and the same circumstance, by rendering detection impossible to their constituents, will invite public agents to corruption, plunder and waste.

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/168803-our-country-is-too-large-to-have-all-its-affairs

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:13 | 4038137 WarriorClass
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Texans take to arms on October 19th at the Alamo:

http://americandictators.blogspot.com/2013/10/a-call-to-action-historic-...

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:19 | 4037895 BeetleBailey
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LOL...stop drinking out of the toilet, douche

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:26 | 4037914 King_Julian
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MDB, I up voted you. Good stuff today. I needed the laugh.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:49 | 4038017 Sandmann
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Satirist

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:48 | 4038020 Winston Smith 2009
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"You have to stay absolutely up to date on issues ranging from finance and transport to military operations"

But they don't.  They let the lobbyists write any legislation requiring such specialized knowledge and then, if it's too long and complex, don't even bother reading it before passing it.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 13:00 | 4038297 WOAR
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That's the joke.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:58 | 4038063 Anusocracy
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The default state for society is the animal world.

Since the actions of government are based in force, it tends to drive civilization back to the animal world. Bloody in tooth and claw is driven by government now.

What's its death toll going to be in the 21st century -
billions?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:29 | 4038193 DaveyJones
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and don't forget those young devilish page boys tempting your piety  

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:55 | 4038283 zuuma
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"The idea that someone would go into such a competitive and relentless field without a strong selfless desire to make society a better place is an astonishingly absurd proposition. It’s actually quite deranged."

ohhhh MDB...

 

If only that were true.

Any research of Milwaukee congresscritter Gwen Moore (D) -- speeches, writings, voting record, etc. -- instantly crushes the above motivational ideal.

I'm sure that there are at least 100 "peers" [non-identical clones] of her out there, as well.

Anything, ANYTHING can be elected to congress in the good ole USA.

 

/>sarc or not, it's really sad.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 17:41 | 4039351 MontgomeryScott
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QUOTE:

Megalomania is a psychopathological disorder where in the person experiences delusional fantasies of greatness, wealth, grandeur, omnipotence and superiority. The person with this type of mental illness will be obsessed with doing extravagant things, will think only about themselves, will not have any concern for others and will have lust for power and money. A megalomaniac person will also exaggerate his/her talent in an unrealistic egoistic way, consider them as unique and will be self centered. According to the experts, this mental disorder is related to Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) which means self-love. How and why this type of illness develops may be because of different behavioral characteristics, childhood and nature of parenting during childhood days. One of the best examples of a megalomaniac in the history was Adolf Hitler.

http://www.thirdworldpapa.com/2011/how-to-identify-the-symptoms-of-megal...

QUOTE:

One of the most distinguishing characteristics of a sociopath is how he relates to others. Although able to exude charm, wit, attraction and sexual behavior, the sociopath is void of the genuine ability to emotionally connect with other human beings. Sociopaths often seeks relationships with people who have something to offer, such as money, material goods or status. The relationship serves a means to an end for the sociopath, and manipulation is a valuable asset for obtaining what the sociopath desires when the partner in the relationship withholds. Love is not an option for a sociopath, however this typically isn't clear to the relationship partner until after the sociopath has left the relationship for a better option. When relationship conflict occurs, the sociopath's goal is to manipulate the partner into feeling as if the conflict occurred due to her own fault. A sociopath rarely takes any responsibility for disagreements.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/84111-characteristics-sociopath/#ixzz2hGLZAJn7

Gee, MDB, you ARE, REALLY, (what's the descriptive word?), TWEAKED!

"The idea that someone would go into such a competitive and relentless field without a strong selfless desire to make society a better place is an astonishingly absurd proposition."

The idea that politicians are doing what they do in this current world out of some need for 'the betterment of humanity' would only describe about 1 10th of 1 percent of these 'people'.

AND, THE SOURCE as to why UNIONS are the CHAMPIONS of FREEDOM is REALLY laughable! Fucking MAFIOSOS, TOTALITARIAN SOCIALISTS ALL!

Damn, I've seen wild examples of cranial-rectal dysfunctions in the past, but the fact that you would even bother posting your assaholic opinions HERE is REALLY BEYOND THE PALE!

Sorry. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:23 | 4038173 bagehot99
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The following post, by MDB, is clearly written as satire. Nobody with a functioning cerebral cortex could actually hold such demonstrably idiotic and simply falsifiable views as this.

He's either joking, or in immediate need of professional help.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:32 | 4038212 DaveyJones
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they say some of his saitre is not as "clear"

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 17:45 | 4039380 MontgomeryScott
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Tell that dude to put a 'sarc' tag on it, or something.

SERIOUSLY!

Well, i guess some people get a rise out of stirring the pot of shit up...

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:35 | 4037776 Stuart
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Until the paycheck no longer arrives in the mail or the ATM doesn't work, the public will remain asleep.   The average Joe just doesn't care enough or too distracted by the Amazing Race or Monday night football or what app they can download.   Sad state we are in.   The dumb masses. 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:35 | 4037779 Newsboy
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WILL WORK AS FOOD.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:36 | 4037781 rubiconsolutions
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"Tax revenue is people!"

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:32 | 4037771 OldE_Ant
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Would you like the red or blue soylent?

I assure you they are both juicy and tasty and both have the same empty centers!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:57 | 4037838 Long-John-Silver
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I want green soylent, it's Green!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:47 | 4038253 Bastiat
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Does it have electrolytes?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 17:59 | 4039424 MontgomeryScott
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I like maps of the available Solyent sources, to find out which color is palatable.

In three, two, one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVFvbZDN-UM

I need to upgrade my cable service now, because I want my MTV. (sarc)

Who's got videos of Miley Cyrus 'twerking'?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:37 | 4037785 Freewheelin Franklin
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The New Role of Constituents

The concept of political service has been replaced by that of masked exploitation....

 

The same can be said of the "news" media. They exist to serve the politicians.

 

Thank god for ZH.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:37 | 4037795 q99x2
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I got to vote once in the last 3 months. It was for a State assemblyperson. Only one person on the ballot had no party affiliation. I voted for that candidate.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:08 | 4038107 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  I voted for that candidate

Onward, comrade!!  Good luck on your five year plan too!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:38 | 4037796 Johnbrown
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A message to all federal employees

To the hardly dedicated, and not so hard-working employees of the US Government.

The Federal Government is the largest criminal organization in the world with more than 2 million "civilian" parasites and 1.4 million hired killers who predate against others in all 50 states and around the world....

http://insomniaclibertarian.blogspot.com/2013/10/a-message-to-all-federa...

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:00 | 4038068 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:   and not so hard-working employees of the US Government.

Don't forget, the salarys hard-working employess of the US government only account for 5% of the 2 trillion buck distributed each year.

Where does the rest go?     Oh yeah, to the free-enterprise loving patriots collecting money from:  Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-Ed, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState.

Git yer socialist hands off my Medicare,  I'm entitle to that free motor-scooter!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 18:31 | 4039508 MontgomeryScott
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I hear that Government Motors and Tesla have teamed up with the engineers at Boeing (the ones working on the 787 'Screamliner' project) to bring you a 'RASCAL' electric scooter that actually DOESN'T CATCH FIRE in the battery cells. Your 'bamacare should be kicking in soon, and you don't want to miss out on this powerful investment opportunity! (Some assembly required, batteries not included, see your healthcare advocate for details, some restictions apply, don't miss out on special savings offers if you have your chip already implanted, learn to speak Hindu if you wish to call for further details)

Based on calculations, assuming the average pay, benefits, and perks of the average Federal employee are $100,000 per year (this is probably low), i arrive at a figure of 7% of the spending per annum, so you are probably close in your estimates.

Lobbyists and their represented corporations are an unknown, but interest on the 'debt' paid to the FED IS a known. Payouts to the weffare system in all capacities can also be calculated. Budgets for the various departments are able to be added up (EXCEPT for 'emergency spending bills, having to do with 'BLACK PROJECTS' and the GWOT, as well as 'emergency relief spending' in the event of natural disasters).

BILLARY CLINTON 'balanced the budget' by telling the Congressional Budget Office that Social Security payment income from the taxpayers be counted as 'revenue'. It had been left as a standalone up until this time, and the monies recieved were supposedly 'earmarked' for investment in interest-bearing investment 'vehicles', which were SUPPOSED to be 'self-sustaining', and as such , were considered to be 'off-budsget' items (until CLINTON). The rules changed, most likely because the 'trust fund' had been raided to pay for all the bullshit 'promises' and the 'regional wars' up until that time...and all that remained were a bunch of 'full faith and credit' I.O.U.s...

Is it any wonder that the U.S. Congress hasn't passed an ACTUAL BUDGET in. what is it, FIVE YEARS, NOW?

Get a free motor-scooter when you sign up for the AHCA, and for a limited time, get a FREE 'TRAC-FONE' for LIFE!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 15:39 | 4038909 Radical Marijuana
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"1.4 million hired killers" makes improving anything seem practically impossible, while it appears clear that the USA is going to continue to transform from democratic republic to democidal plutocracy.

The easy part is to point out the social facts. However, what is hard is to do anything to change the dynamic equilibria of the different systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies, to become anything better, instead of always worse, faster. The basic ways that most people think would have to change beyond our ability to imagine, especially since THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CHRONIC POLITICAL PROBLEMS WHICH NEED TO BE RESOLVED. The supreme paradox of civilization is that the central social fact is that it is controlled by the people who are the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence. The deeper paradoxes are about WHY that happens, namely there ARE CHRONIC POLITICAL PROBLEMS!

It is impossible for there to be no death controls, and the death controls are always going to be the central controls of civilization. The USA, like all states, was created in the crucible of conflicts, where survival in the context of warfare was the test. That survival primarily depended upon being good at deceit, and backing that up with destruction, IS THE FUNDAMENTAL NATURE OF GOVERNMENT, AND ALSO WHY GOVERNMENTS END UP BEING CONTROLLED BY THE BEST ORGANIZED GANGS OF CRIMINALS. But nevertheless, there always continue to be chronic political problems, as long as any human beings survive, since those problems are inherent to the nature of life itself. The degree to which the USA represented the global triumph of Neolithic Civilization is the degree to which its people perfected the immaculate hypocrisy about what it was doing.

What makes operating a system with "1.4 million hired killers" SO EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC is the degree to which doing that is done through the maximum possible deceits about itself, while almost all of its opposition is just as deceitful, if not more sublimely so. The most important things that governments do are operate their MURDER SYSTEMS, WHICH BACK UP THEIR MONEY SYSTEMS. The American manifestations of ways to resolve those chronic political problems have become the greatest single civilized concentration of deceits and frauds, because deceits and frauds are the fundamentally necessary nature of those systems, which must exist, due to the nature of life itself. However, the American political discourse continues to operate through the maximum possible lies about itself, and that includes the ways that the opposition to the established systems are usually also utterly dishonest about the social facts, and deny and suppress those social facts, whenever they talk about making things "better."

The human experiment with the ability to build a brain that can usefully model the world, but which includes a model of itself within its model of the world, has plunged through infinite tunnels of deceits and frauds, since the basic nature of that life is necessarily organized systems of lies, operating organized robberies, in which those who were the best at doing that were also the best at lying about what they were doing, while those who are trying to replace them attempt to stay within that hypocritical frame of reference, that somehow they too are not operating their own systems of organized lies and robberies.

Throughout history, being more open and honest about how the murder/money systems were being operated was always the most unsuccessful strategy. At the same time, operating those real systems through even better systems of organized lies was successful. The human species has dug itself into an almost infinitely deep hole due to that historical process. The "1.4 million hired killers" employed by the government of the USA, which is actually directed by the covert corporatocracy, (biggest and best organized crime gangs) has become a runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut, with an overwhelming abundance of weapons of mass destruction, that are trillions of times more powerful than anything that previously existed in human history. Meanwhile, more and more of that is becoming manifested through the de facto privatization of the public powers of governments.

Those weapons are only possible because of a series of creative breakthroughs in scientific paradigms, which enabled some human beings to build models of the world which expressed greater apparent truth about how that world worked. Of course, the first thing that that knowledge was applied to do was to build better weapons, and the second thing was to make more profits, because the basic nature of civilization was NECESSARILY a combined murder/money system. The only thing we can actually do is continue to muddle through the madness that the real world is controlled by different systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies, and the worst of those systems are the ones that most insist that they are based on THE TRUTH, and have RIGHTS.

Developing better dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies, is extremely difficult because the biggest and most successful ones are those who are the best at being dishonest about themselves, and that includes not only their established systems, but also the opposition to those systems. Indeed, from a sublimely abstract point of view, the "opposition" often tends to be even more awesome hypocritical, in the ways that they promote impossible ideals.

The general theme of the progress in science and technology (which has enabled building a global fiat money electronic fraud, backed by atomic bombs) has been UNITARY MECHANISMS, in order to understand nature better. Progress in science has moved away from false fundamental dichotomies. However, politics continues to almost totally based on the same old false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals. Therefore, while most of the revealed analysis of the social facts tends to be correct and insightful, that all tends to collapse back to bullshit "solutions" because what has always actually worked best throughout the history of human civilization is bigger and better deceits, backed by destruction. The problems that our technologies have become trillions of times more powerful and capable have not yet worked themselves through ...

Both Monty Pelerin's, as well as the article that Johnbrown linked above, are more classic reactionary revolutionary writings, which do good enough analysis of the superficial social facts, but which do not move beyond the same old false fundamental dichotomies when it comes to suggesting any possible "solutions." The only genuine solutions are extremely paradoxical, because they emerge in the context of the dilemmas of the nature of the human experiment, which is that human beings build models of their world, in which there are models of themselves, modeling their world, and themselves, which plunge through infinite tunnels. Furthermore, those sets of nested toroidal vortices have been selected by the history of warfare, and militarism to rationalize that warfare, to become based on the maximum possible deceits about themselves. Moreover, the more symbolic and abstract that became, as information became more important than power, the greater the degree to which civilization ended up being dominated by the best professional liars and immaculate hypocrites.

That is currently manifesting in the ways that our financial systems are fundamentally based on frauds, and actually operate the maximum possible frauds, which have been increasing at an exponentially accelerating rate, and which therefore, are very rapidly reaching some real limits. However, the problem is that almost everyone who presents those social facts then collapses back to bullshit "solutions" based on the same old false fundamental dichotomies, and impossible ideals.

In a real world system where the USA represents slightly more than half of the total military force in the world, and in which the American Dollar is the global reserve currency, having "1.4 million hired killers" armed with weapons of mass destruction, protecting the interests of a fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting system, has become too problematic to comprehend! That is especially so because almost all of the opposition to that system tends to be just as dishonest, or even, from an abstract point of view, even more dishonest, because the opposition continues to promote the same old impossible ideals as somehow being the "solutions."

WE ARE WITHIN HUMAN REALITIES ALWAYS BEING ORGANIZED LIES, OPERATING ORGANIZED ROBBERIES, AND THEREFORE, NEEDING TO EVOLVE ECOLOGIES OF THOSE SYSTEMS. Actually doing that opens up passages through infinite tunnels of deceits, through Bizarro Mirror Worlds, because the best combined money/murder systems operate through being the best at being dishonest about themselves, in order to most successfully operate their deceits and frauds.

In that context, what we truly need, although it too seems practically impossible, is for political science to go through the paradigm shifts in its own perceptions, throughout the operations of the combined human money/murder systems. Articles like the one above on Zero Hedge, and the one that Johnbrown cited, illustrate that standing problem that the opposition to the established systems tend to all be "Black Sheep" or "reactionary revolutionaries," who reveal the social facts that the government IS organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, BUT then refuse to stay consistent with that perception when they propose their "solutions." Furthermore, the degree to which they continue to take the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories still for granted makes it even more improbable that they will respond any better.

The problem with understanding human beings, and human civilizations, as energy systems is that, to be consistent with itself, it has to "accept" that the most labile components control the systems, and therefore, it is always the case that the organized systems of lies, operating organized robberies, are controlled by the most extreme forms of lies and robberies. Of course, in that context, in a world where everything scientific is understood as being energy systems, the concept of entropy is understood backwards, since an arbitrary minus sign was inserted into the entropy equations, so that power and information would end up having positive values. In fact, ALL measures of power and information ALWAYS have negative values. Realities are necessarily organized lies, operating organized robberies. That is WHY that is what the government actually IS.

IF, IF, IF, enough citizens were not acting like incompetent political idiots, then we might be able to see better arms races between the different systems of organized lies and robberies, resulting in more checks and balances, through better dynamic equilibria. However, tragically, that is not now a reasonable expectation. There can be no better resolutions of the chronic political problems as long as we continue to operate within the frame of reference of false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals. That is why one can not reasonably expect those problems to be resolved in any better ways in the foreseeable future, rather than for the runaway social insanities, which are exponentially increasing, overshooting, and collapsing into chaos. (And, inside that context, I wonder why I bother to post this comment, since it will not change anything anyway.)

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 18:34 | 4039516 MontgomeryScott
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SHIT!

I thought MY comments were too long!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 21:04 | 4039851 Radical Marijuana
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Yeah, well, MontgomeryScott, we are all bozos on this bus, twiddling our thumbs, while faced with the dilemma between doing nothing effective, versus making things worse faster.

I just pass my time thinking out loud about these topics, as provoked by the articles and comments. Nobody has to read that, and really, there is no practical point to any of this ... since the established systems are tsunamis of fraud backed by force, which are going to deluge us all into oblivion, while there is really nothing practical that can be done to prepare for that, although a lot of people like to still pretend there is something that they could do, in order to be prepared for the earthquakes and tidal waves that are surely coming, due to the government becoming so obviously corrupt and crazy that the vast majority of Americans are already disgusted with it ...

However, at the same time, we are stuck in those same old ruts, going around and around, like my replies do ... AFTER ALL, CONSIDER THAT MONTY PERELIN IS RIGHT WHEN HE WRITES: "Citizens Are The Soylent Green Of Today's Politics!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green

"... a dystopian future suffering from pollution, overpopulation, depleted resources, poverty, dying oceans, and a hot climate due to the greenhouse effect. Much of the population survives on processed food rations, including "soylent green" ... where it is human corpses that are being converted into that "soylent green!"

What is one supposed to do after looking at all the available facts, and finding that the metaphors in the worst dystopian science fiction nightmares ARE what is happening, and what is more probably going to continue to happen, as those established processes get worse, faster ???

Like I already said, I have no doubt that the articles and comments on Zero Hedge are not going to make any real difference, other that perhaps providing some philosophical consolations to those who contemplate them ...

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:41 | 4037805 Winston of Oceania
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+1000

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:43 | 4037810 hangemhigh77
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Tell me something I DON'T know......for the last 30 FUCKING YEARS!!!  LET THE HANGINGS BEGIN!!!!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:48 | 4037812 Dr. Engali
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"The rise of the professional politician was never anticipated by the Founders of the nation."

 

I disagree with this statement. There is plenty of evidence that they foresaw the problems of men seeking power:

 

Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct.” –  Thomas Jefferson

 

“There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with the power to endanger the public liberty.” – John Adams

 

“The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.” – James Madison

 

The people must remain ever vigilant against tyrants masquerading as public servants.” – George Washington

 

And if a government becomes destructive we have these words from another important document in American history:

 

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

 


Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:55 | 4037836 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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How dare you quote those extremists and terrorist literature such as The Declaration of Independence.  The gov't loves us and only wants what's best for us.   Barry Obama told me so!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:58 | 4038048 Winston Smith 2009
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I'm paraphrasing a quote I read some time ago - "The best way to be labelled as a dangerous person these days is to quote the founding fathers." When that becomes the perception from the government, as it has, you know things are completely off course Constitutionally.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 18:36 | 4039524 MontgomeryScott
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I feel sorry for you.

REPEAT AFTER ME:

'BECAUSE OBAMA!'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:31 | 4038206 Anusocracy
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Public service and government are contradictory. How can stealing wealth from the public be a service?

To me, public service is charity or volunteer work. Or helping an old lady cross the street.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:43 | 4037813 Spastica Rex
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Let's just go back to royal families, it would be cheaper and easier that way. It was an efficient system that worked for centuries. Every once in a while, the competing royal families could have small wars with one another. It would entertain the masses.

Clinton. Bush. Paul.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:49 | 4037824 prains
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you mean war-lords don't you, city based factions fighting one another for scarce resources, sounds positively dark ages.......wait a minute

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:56 | 4038278 NidStyles
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It amazes me that most people refer to them as Dark Ages, even though the reason they are considered Dark Ages is because there was a distinctive lack of governmental and centralized influence of the cultures of the world during that period. Dark Ages indeed....

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:44 | 4037994 Ghordius
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interestingly, many european monarchs enjoyed popular support because they were perceived by the masses as a check on the oligarchs

one of the most interesting of those checks is that the monarch usually made sure nobody enjoyed more "conspicuos consumption" or means or power than the Crown

Elizabeth I did it in a very oldfashioned way: she just showed up at your main residence and kept being the most honoured guest (with the whole retinue) until she nearly bankrupted you. then she left for the next most dangerous man on the list, who of course had for sure a nice residence

once the smarter oligarchs realized that there was a "cap" on what they could squeeze out of the economy, they dished their dreams for MOAR

hence the ancient Greek adage that it's a cycle: Democracy -> Oligarchy -> Monarchy -> Democracy, etc.

though their term for Monarchs was Tyrant (and they used it as a neutral, descriptive term), and their term Democracy described both Isocracies and Republics

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:47 | 4038012 Sandmann
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But the Monarch had to be cautious. Elizabeth I faced many plots and intrigues and the Civil War broke out as her succession passed to the incompetent Stuarts from Scotland.

She also created a class of barons herself - the Cecils for example enriched themselves greatly and are still a major poitical family in England.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:57 | 4038054 NOTaREALmerican
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Re: many european monarchs

Like every political ISM:  it works until it doesn't.

When the first inbred moron is born the sociopaths infesting the palace take over and it's down hill all the way.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 16:33 | 4039100 grekko
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When it crashes, just let it burn to the ground.  Go back to City-States, problems were much smaller that way, and if you didn't like your city, then you could vote with your feet.  De-centralization is such a beautiful thing.  At least go back to the Articles of Confederation, that is a start on the road to city-states.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 18:40 | 4039536 MontgomeryScott
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I find your progression interesting.

The only descriptor that you forgot was 'REPUBLIC'.

The Monarchs, Oligarchs, and 'SOCIALISTS' (your version of 'democracy') all HATE republics.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:49 | 4038026 Sandmann
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You have them.....the American Republic has leading families based on political wealth - Clintons, Bushes, Kennedys,

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 16:29 | 4039094 grekko
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No good.  When the royalty had small wars, the loser was banished to start his BS somewhere else.  They were all intermarried, so only the serf was killed.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 18:14 | 4039458 BlueCheeseBandit
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Feudalism was actually a very effective system. Highly decentralized, the rapaciousness of powerful statesmen and churchmen checking each other, the peasants only worked like 80 days a year, and paid only 25% of their product to The Lord in kind.

Add in modern tech and it could be paradise on earth.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:24 | 4037817 Mototard at Large
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Its not the Dems vs the GOP, its the finanical class vs the political class.   While I would agree that the political class has little concern or interest in the average citizen, my own view remains that the financial class has overwhelmed the polticial class and dominates them. Therefore, the political class does not really matter all that much in decision making...

See http://www.brokenmirrors.ca/?p=305

"The Financial Elites and the New Inverted Totalitarianism: Smash the State or Smash the Banks?"

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 18:21 | 4039381 Radical Marijuana
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Yeah, Mototard at Large, one question to ask, as a thought experiment, is who would be better able than whom at ordering and paying for an assassination of the other?

I agree that "the financial class has overwhelmed the political class and dominates them."  The theoretical ability of the government to command the official armed forces is not enough to protect individual politicians from being discredited and/or destroyed. Furthermore, if one looks at the history of the secret police in America, like how those from the end of World War Two morphed into the CIA, etc., one will see that their leadership was drawn from Wall Street banksters and lawyers.

Therefore, the political class are not protected by what one might presume was "their" secret police apparatus, which are actually more controlled by the banksters, or the financial class. As Smedley Butler said, "war is a racket." For centuries, "war was the harvest of the banksters," and the actual operations of the American military and secret police are mostly to protect and advance the interest of the international bankers and their corporations.

The degree to which the financial class was able to buy up control of the mass media, and fund foundations to take over control of the schools, has resulted in the vast majority of Americans becoming clueless political idiots. Therefore, the American political class can no longer effectively resist the banksters, but rather, the only members of the political class that have successful careers are ones that agree to act as the puppets of the banksters, whose only job is to lie to the masses of muppets.

As I said above, there is no point in silly notions about "smashing the state." There would be a point in operating overall better combined money/murder systems! However, given that the vast majority of Americans are now dyed in the wool Zombie Sheeple, there is no hope for any politicians to be able to function as anything else than bankster puppets.

Given how deeply dysfunction the masses of Americans are, I can not believe in any other future than that the banksters' systems will be able to consolidate themselves after imposing democidal martial law. Of course, I WISH that was not the case! However, I actually believe that writing articles and comments like these accomplish practically nothing, in the overall context where everything automatically is getting worse, faster, and there are no good reasons to doubt that that will get WAY WORSE!

The domination of the financial class is the domination of the society by runway triumphant frauds, which MUST have extremely evil longer term consequences. However, those eventualities have no reality to those who have not enough education, information, and imagination to perceive those. That, unfortunately, includes most of the American people. Bit by bit, Americans have been controlled by worse and worse legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, that benefited the financial class, and those corporations that they control. Rather than resist that anymore, the serving political class are almost now handmaidens to that new royalty in the financial class.

The great tragedy is that there is nothing in the short-term which can stop triumphant runaway financial frauds, once they get going, despite their longer term consequences surely becoming so severe! The ordinary people go on believing in the state religion, by working for their money, and paying taxes, while the banksters get to make trillions more of that "money" out of nothing, as deeper and deeper debts upon the rest of the population.

Everyone is invested in their own money and their own property, so much so that the astronomically sized frauds of the banksters being able to make "money" out of nothing, as debts, and thereby amass ownership over almost all the property, has no way to interest the ordinary people, and they have no understanding enough to resist the ways that they are working towards their own enslavement and then destruction. The increasingly militarized American police are well-paid to enforce the banksters' legalized lies, by providing the legalized violence to back those up. They too are likely amongst the last to understand that they are destroying their own future too. Hence, Homeland Security is psychotic national security, which has been more and more privatized to hell.

Most of the military industrial complex is now a hodge podge of private corporations, whose business is based upon the powers of governments, which have been privatized. America has mainly become a combined money/murder system, in a state of runaway privatization. The paradoxes are the ways that public powers are the driving force and rationalization for the effective privatization of those powers. That became serious with the creation of the Federal Reserve Board, and has automatically gotten worse, faster, since then. From then on, the financial class became more and more superior to the political class, which meant the runaway triumph of controlling America with HUGE LIES ... Too bad, so sad, that I can see no practical benefit in learning about any of these things, since the only thing that happens is that the more one learns, the worse they get!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:52 | 4037826 SheepDog-One
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There are no 'political parties' just the 2 wings of the 1 vulture, dividing and conquering. Isn't it amazing how no matter what the issue is, they've always got a nice 50/50 split to exploit? That's the name of the game in open air concentration camp USSA.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:51 | 4037828 DOGGONE
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Tyler/ZH, SHOW THIS!
The Public Be Suckered, here
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1223928

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:53 | 4037835 Took Red Pill
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Thank you! I just made a similar post on Michael Snyder's article. Red vs. Blue, Liberal vs. Conservative, Right vs. Left, North vs. South. It's the old divide and conquer strategy. We've got to put our petty differences aside and unite as a people to take control back!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:08 | 4038093 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  We've got to put our petty differences aside and unite as a people to take control back!

Good concept, but our country is working as well has it ever has and is working exactly the same as every other county on the planet and every other country in history.

The smart-n-savvy screw the dumbasses.   It's called survival of the fittest.   

Government and monopolies are ways to concentrate the power of the smart-n-savvy people.    There's no other system possible. 

Who else is gonna win:  the below-average dumbasses?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 18:49 | 4039572 MontgomeryScott
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Which site did you post it to?

I find 'Micheal Snyder' scattered around in several nodes, as a 'contributor'. HERE, and other places as well. i first payed attention to his 'nom-de-plume' several years ago, over at BLN.

SHIT, the new data center in Utah is going to tag this (that is, if they don't experience another unexplained spontaneous fire/power loss).

SOLYENT GREEN!

It's SHEOPLE!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 10:57 | 4037840 Jim in MN
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I have, several times, scoped out a potential New National Party (NNP) concept.  It would clearly be possible, using several existing models such as the founding of the Republican Party itself. 

Here is the core concept:  Merge the 1956 Democrat and Republican platforms.  Update to include corporate corruption as a key issue with major policy initiatives such as a five year closure of New York Federal Reserve and Treasury offices, lifetime bans on TARP recipient employees working for the Feds, bans on private contact between banks and public officials etc. etc. (disruption of the physical and communications nexus of corruption). 

Key point:  Carefully insert social issues that exclude 'die hard' partisans from the current Dem and Rep parties.  To be in the NNP you have to be a patriot first, and accept that corruption now trumps all other issues.  So, for example, NNP might take the pro gun, pro choice stance.  Those issues can be fought out using coalitions of NNP, D and R at later dates.  The main thing is to return to fiscal sanity, promote healthy saving and capital investment, and restore legitimacy via total war on corruption.

This NNP concept would take a lot of support from grassroots, a dedicated core, support systems, celebrities, existing political defectors (properly screened and balanced left v right), and about a quarter billion dollars. Shouldn't be too hard right?

The target would be a run against President H Clinton in 2020.  Things should be pretty bad by then.  First, state organizations, local elected officials, and enough Senate defections to sway the balance of power.  Just for starters. 

We'd also need a lot of the military and security 'regular folks' to support this in a big way.  Just in case.

Thoughts?  Personally I would recommend a founding in the geographic center of the US (in Kansas).  But not just yet.  Still looking for the core. 

Just a daydream.....you never saw this....none of us were ever here.....

And oh, NSA workers:  you'll know what to do when the time really comes.  As the Japanese say: Please do not worry.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:06 | 4037859 flacorps
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Just don't vote for Democrats or Republicans. If people consistently pick something else, either the dinos get the message or they sink in the tar. It doesn't much matter.

Then don't vote for incumbents.

Make this country's politics a goddam kaleidoscope.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 14:49 | 4038716 hidingfromhelis
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The Diebold "constituency" would nullify that in a heartbeat.

Having said that, if I don't decide to skip participating in a rigged, WWF, kabuki-esque soap opera sham of an election, that will be my plan simply to make myself feel better.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:24 | 4037907 tip e. canoe
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OT Jim: did you ever complete that Fuku report?

if so, didn't catch it, but been here on & off...

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:56 | 4038287 Jim in MN
Wed, 10/09/2013 - 19:16 | 4039645 MontgomeryScott
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This is rather good. i downloaded it for further review, Jim.

For those not understanding the measurments, a 'bequerel' (pronounced 'BEK-euh'ell') of radiation measurement is defined as:

One disintegration per second of a specific radionucleide by measurment, per a liquid volume specified.

In the case of 'picocuries' there are approximately 27 'picocuries' per 'bequerel'. These are scientifically noted as 'picocuries per (insert your measurment here as to volume of liquid...litres, ounces, gallons, whatever). For example, on 27 March 2011, 390 picocuries per litre of rainwater was recorded, measuring the radionucleide Iodine-131, at the station in the Boise Airport/Gowen Field, Idaho recording facility. This equates to 55.7 Bequerels, for those wondering

Shortly after that, the 'gubmint' decided to shut down (or, at least, stop releasing the data from) several of these monitoring sites.

 

 

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:04 | 4037860 Hongcha
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The gears are in place and running I think too well even for the designers.  They are stripping the remaining productive greenery so fast, even they can see where this is going.

I mean, hand-held scanners for license plates issued by the Fed to help up revenues?  It has gone beyond the beyond and I am officially radicalized.

They won't stop it, so get ready.  That is my game plan for the rest of my life.

I am certain we are in endgame in the Amerika we knew, and heading to Big Mexico.

All we have going is our memories of liberty and our guns; both of which, you will notice, they try their best to wipe away.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 19:44 | 4039708 MontgomeryScott
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Some of us saw this shit way back, you know.

There were musical artists who recorded their concerns, and people who spoke out in the public venues (without fear of getting disappeared) back then. Naturally, they were 'publicly trashed' in the 'Media' for whatever reason was emotionally 'convenient'.

The MACHINERY is in place. The GEARS are simply small parts (I hate to correct you on conceptual analysis, but it must be pointed out to those who still are willing to listen; and especially, those who can still REASON).

The 'RADICALIZED' radio stations used to play cuts from this album, late at night, back in the 1970's, in the greater Los Angeles area. KLOS, and KMET, used to have freindly competitions to get the 'latest', back then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffXcVqR-ZoU

(The full album)

A particular song for 'Hongcha':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIHXhFJ4FoM

THEY call it 'predictive progamming' technique.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:08 | 4037867 Bangin7GramRocks
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Jesse Ventura/Howard Stern 2016! No lobbyists, no special interests. Whatever you think of them, Stern is a learned and brilliant man and Ventura has been a governor of a large state who didn't cowtow to any special interests. And the answer is Yes! Our country has fallen this far that 2 entertainers are our best hope for sanity......

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:24 | 4037913 tip e. canoe
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it would definitely expose the farce to more of the masses, that for sure.

anything that does that i'm all for, damn the consequences (at this point)

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:29 | 4038198 bagehot99
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Jesse Ventura has the cognitive and analytical function of an academically-middling eleven-year-old girl.

His exploits as Governor of Minnesota were comedy gold, and not in the good way.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 13:30 | 4038464 22winmag
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That makes him head and shoulders above Barry... and for a bonus, Jesse is an American.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 16:34 | 4039101 Bangin7GramRocks
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He didn't act the part of a politician and that made you uncomfortable.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 16:56 | 4039137 Things that go bump
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Reposted from an earlier thread: Ah, yes - I have many fond memories of his term. Because of his inability to accept criticism of any sort, his running feud with the press was epic and a constant source of amusement. Shame on them, but it got so that they baited him deliberately just to elicit the predictable response. Apparently, it was one of those things that just never got old. While it is true we got a tax rebate, he emptied the rainy day fund to do it, and so there was no rainy day fund when it was needed. I bought a pack of cigarettes with my tax rebate, but I'm probably still paying on the loan. He has the true narcissist's knack of taking any subject and making it about him (as everything is about him, you know). He actually once answered a question with the non sequitur, "I don't have time to bleed." While the Venturas didn't live in the Governor's mansion, his son used it as a party house where he entertained his friends. Damages occured during the drunken debauchery (to an historic property owned by the citizens of the State of Minnesota), staff publically complained - an unprecidented occurrence (they are generally souls of discretion). The lovely Terry was not entirely on board with the whole adventure and initially refused to serve as our first lady, though I think she relented, as I seem to remember a picture of her looking ackward and ill-at-ease in a long gown, while greeting a delegation of some sort. Though it may be an antiquated convention, it is a convention nevertheless that when you elect a married head of state you get a team. While over the years some of the edges may have been polished off that particular diamond in the rough, and as far as I can tell she has no visible tattoos, hostess of the State of Minnesota was certainly far outside of her comfort zone and she, at least, had the good sense to know she had neither the inclination nor the training to serve in that particular function. Whatever comes of this, do not let her redecorate the White House. They once made the mistake of giving a televised tour of their home and her tastes run along the lines of high-end Victorian brothel. I've seen their bedroom.

Oh, I forgot the best part - He left office before his term was over. It may have been at the request of the sensible Terry, but I think he got bored.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 16:22 | 4039081 grekko
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Ventura also served as a Navy Seal, hence the fact that he won't take any shit from anyone.  The actor is just embellishment on his resume.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 20:07 | 4039758 MontgomeryScott
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Technically, you are wrong.

Ventura didn't serve in the 'SEa, Air, and Land' team. He was a 'demolitions specialist' (underwater munitions). He WORKED with the 'SEALS', as an adjunct to his specialty, and therefore, was given AUTHORITY over their 'squad commanders' when it came to BLOWING SHIT UP.

If you listen carefully, he has stated that he WORKED with the SEALS, and in earlier claims, he said that he was an 'Underwater Demolitions Specialist'. 'I was WITH the NAVY SEALS' is factually true, but NOT technically correct.

HE was the guy that the 'SEALS' would transport in to an enemy port, who put on the SCUBA gear and plant the bombs on the ships, piers, bridges, or dams in whatever harbor that the PTB decided were 'ENEMIES'. Naturally, the SEALS in their little Avon Inflatables with the Johnson outboards, would be too chicken-shit to actually DO what he has done...

Ventura wasn't serving AS a 'SEAL', he was serving 'WITH' them.

'REALITY CHECK'

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:13 | 4037873 wisefool
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The word is patronage. It is the gift to humanity when wisdom is the food. It is the other guy when entitlement is involved.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 16:20 | 4039073 grekko
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Right, just like the liberal from California that was "SHOCKED", shocked, I tell ya, that his Obamacare contribution was going to be over 10 G's a year more than he pays now.  (I do love it when a progressive wakes up and smells the coffee, especially one who voted for Pelosi.)

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:17 | 4037894 Conservative_Ex...
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Both sides are full of crooks.  People need to look at it this way..  Do you want crooks that promote pro-growth policies and make sure businesses and individuals get to keep their money or do you want the crooks who keep bloating entitlements and keep bloating the government employee unions.  Every city in CA going bankrupt can trace thier problems back to the overbloated pensions and lifetime health benefits of the retired workforce..  less and less revenu ends up going to current operations.  Government employee unions are the biggest problem in this country right now.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:53 | 4038046 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:   crooks

And lets not forget the crooks who support the manly crony-capitalist scams like: Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState.

My Big-Gov scam isn't socialism, that's an investment in our children's future.

Everybody loves the Big-Gov scam they got rich off of.   Just ask the supporters of who got rich off of  B-1 "Bob" Dornan (Great Merican).

 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 16:14 | 4039054 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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That is why the average member of Team Red talking about "getting government off our backs" and driving around with "Don't Tread on Me" bumper stickers makes me want to reach for the nearest 2x4 and give them a serious whack.  Most "conservatives" support most of or all of the above and many would like to add Big-Church and Big-Morality Police to the mix.  I have a near zero hypocrisy threshold and these morons are good nothing but raising my blood pressure every time.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 20:28 | 4039810 MontgomeryScott
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i'm confused, a little.

Are referring to the 'team red' of the 1950's, or the 'team red' of the 2010's? Perhaps the 'team-blue-red' of the 1990's 'Immoral minority'? The 'thought police' in the witches covens in Alexandria, Haifa, or the (NEW and RE-PURPOSED) facility in Utah? The MSM herd-culling proletariat machines that tell us to support the GWOT or 'shut up', or the neo-democrats now inhabiting and haunting the left-stream and 'remaking America' like their wives want? The 'false-flaggers' who decry that all is BAD in freedom, or the people who will defend their property? Those who PROMOTE the violence that you are promoting, or those who don't cherish the harm that you espouse?

"... makes me want to reach for the nearest 2x4 and give them a serious whack"

DAMN, SKIPPY, you need a ZANAX! AH, the fun of 'big Pharma!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy8z557aK1Y

I WISH TO CONSERVE THE REPUBLIC THAT IS PROMISED, AND THE NATURAL RIGHTS AND GUARANTEES OUTLINED THEREIN.

YOU SIMPLY don't understand the classic definition of 'conservative' (one who wishes to save, hold, maintain status quorum, keep attackers in abayence...)

IDIOCRACY. Apropo, methinks.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 12:11 | 4041752 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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No you have no reading comprehension methinks and you are a good example of why I chose as my handle "IdiocracyIsAlreadyHere".  "Reds" may have meant something different in the 50s/60s but here in the 21st century it is the stupid red state/blue state Kabuki theatre political divide and the deluded partisans of said Kubuki theatre act like the corrupt pols from on "their" side are actually going to change things, damnit, if only they weren't stopped by the dreaded "opposition". 

"Conservative" is a word without meaning these days as it is used as self-description mostly by partisans of what call itself the Republican Party (the "Red Team") who are only angry that big gov is not currently doing what THEY want it to do.  They are no more friends of liberty than the phony "progressives" of Team Blue.

And BTW, you were not promised anything.  If you want to restore the "Republic" (and definition of such can be slippery) you need to put in the hard work to actually try and change things, not just bitch about the fact that things have not panned out as might have been intended.  As intelligent as the crafters of the Constitution were they were not clairvoyant.

And if you don't get that "reach for a 2x4 and give them a serious whack" is merely a mentally image and not physical reality I am not sure what I can say.  Perhaps it is you that is in serious need of Xanax.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:07 | 4038098 Winston Smith 2009
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"Do you want crooks that promote pro-growth policies and make sure businesses and individuals get to keep their money"

But who just like the Dims still promise things they pay for with borrowed money thereby making any tax saving to individuals illusory ones based upon deficit spending and whose actions to promote business do not include small businesses because they aren't massive campaign donors like the multinationals and the FIRE sector.

The Repugs are only microscopically better than the Dims if you actually pay attention to what they do and not just what they say.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 20:57 | 4039874 MontgomeryScott
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Winston:

We have always been at war with Eastasia. The Chocolate allowance is now oficially increased, as the ecomonic conditions have allowed the Directorate to allow the People to enjoy a little more personal luxury. The one minute 30 'official hate' time has been lengthened to a full TWO minutes. The GOLDSMITH is still the official 'hated character', as Big Brother decries today. Again, we have ALWAYS been at war with EURASIA.

WE have noticed that your telescreen is being partially blocked in your recepticle. You will comply within the next 30 minutes, or fines will be levied. A second violation will subject you to a cut in the Chocolate rationing progrom, and futhter violations will cause you to be investigated by MINILOVE. Since you are employed by MINITRUE, certain priveledges apply. We must warn you, as fellow compatriots, that deriding the chosen dichotomy is strictly PROHIBITED. Republicrats and Demonicans are NOT to be referred to in devisive or derogatory ways.

Signed,

THE DIRECTORATE

O'Brennan, Cheney, Beers, Napolitano, et.al.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:11 | 4038113 shovelhead
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Hundreds of Billions to prop up insolvent banks might rank a bit higher on the crime scale.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 16:16 | 4039059 grekko
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Good comment, as Siskel & Ebert would say "Two Thumbs Up".

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:45 | 4038006 Sandmann
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Doesn't Tammany Hall about sum it up ? How the Italian and Irish tribal politics captured public jobs in fire service, police and became self-perpetuating family clans ?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:48 | 4038019 proLiberty
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When a government has seized sufficient power to itself, it will grant itself the power to create enough money to finance its priorities and bribe the voters it needs in order to continue its self-sustaining status. It will see voters in terms of friend or foe to this status. Such a government will quickly see groups that advocate smaller government and lower spending as a mortal threat.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 16:14 | 4039056 grekko
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Gee, is this why people with Ron Paul bumper stickers are possible terrorists?

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:50 | 4038022 NOTaREALmerican
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There will always be the smart-n-savvy people screwing the dumbasses.

Politics is just a forum where the smart-n-savvy people hire sociopaths (politicians) who create believable bullshit for their dumbasses and then sell the dumbasses to the smart-n-savvy people who feast off them.  

The most dangerous weapon on the planet is bullshit used to manipulate the dumbasses

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:42 | 4038232 Emergency Ward
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That is why the politicians subvert the intellectuals (awe-stricken by the mighty power of wealth and state) who cleverly posit that the thieves and vultures are actually the dumbasses' benefactors.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 16:12 | 4039045 grekko
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I tend to view the government pols along the lines Wesley Snipes uses in the Blade series of films.  The politicians are the "familiars" who do the bidding of the blood sucking elite.  It was spelled out exactly as such in the third film "Blade Trinity".

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 11:49 | 4038029 Debt Slave
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And democracy makes it all possible. Which is why the founders were against it.

"Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy." - Alexander Hamilton

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:30 | 4038203 Sandmann
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It is inevitable once the source of wealth becomes Patronage and State Favour. In a growth economy with a frontier there is a chance to make money but as opportunities diminish and consolidation takes place it is access to political patronage that matters. The huge concentration of US business under Reagan and the M&A Wave finished off US business in terms of competitive dynamics. The whole structure then focused on cost reduction and profit increase while outsourcing to China where ruthless competition made it impossible for US corporates to engage other than as supply chain providers to Chinese production centres.

The US transferred know-how to China and hollowed out just as HP has done turning itself into an ink company.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 12:50 | 4038258 Vooter
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STOP VOTING AND STOP PARTICIPATING. Pay your tribute (taxes) so that you don't get a beating (prison) from the boss's strong-arm man (the IRS), but otherwise, cut the fuckers out of your life wherever possible...

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 13:05 | 4038332 kenezen
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Great Article!!  

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 13:33 | 4038469 lasvegaspersona
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There is a part of the R party worth supporting. Republicans had a chance when Bush controlled the Exec and both chambers though and they blew it....completely. I wouldnever send a check to anything labeled 'Republican Party'. The Club for Growth has had some good candidates.

In spite of years of financial support I am near the end as far as political support goes. After the vote on NSA funding recently I can see that even guys who I thought would know better...don't. The dollar is going to collapse and that will bring more change than 100 elections.

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 17:30 | 4039328 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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You are such a comedian.  "The Club For Growth (a/k/a Club for Corporate Welfare & Politically Connected Insider Tax Breaks) had some good candidates."  Comedy Gold!  <oh, you were actually being serious?...nevermind>

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 14:47 | 4038705 SmittyinLA
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Each party behaves like a self-serving criminal gang.

 

What do you mean "like" ? 

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 15:26 | 4038892 GoldRulesPaperDrools
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Get those mags loaded bitches!

Wed, 10/09/2013 - 18:48 | 4039567 Brazen Heist
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Modern Feudalism

The Rich - Queen
President - King
Lobbyists - Kings Council
Corporations - Lords
Armed Forces - Knights
You - Serfs

You work for the corporations, who in exchange for soul-sucking servitude, give you a little money in return. Some serfs work for the enforcers - the knights, in their defense corporations or armed services, who protect those above them. Of course, in this system, the King is the puppet, giving an illusion of power to the serfs, with the ultimate power resting with the Queen and her council.

Pwned Bichez!

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