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House Democrats Emerge From Obama Meeting
And anyone hoping that a quick, evening solution would emerge today will need to roll over their hopes for one more day.
House Dems emerge from meeting with Pres Obama reaffiming determination to bring Govt shutdown to an end.
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) October 9, 2013
House Ds pic.twitter.com/wL523B1zZW
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) October 9, 2013
Pelosi and other House Dems say they have 200 members ready to vote to end the Govt shutdown but @SpeakerBoehner won't bring it up for vote.
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) October 9, 2013
Pelosi: “The debt ceiling needs to be lifted and they are not getting any concession for that”
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) October 9, 2013
Pelosi: all we want is a short term CR
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) October 9, 2013
Finally, it appears that the resolution to the debt ceiling, now due to hit in one week, will be a 6 week can kicking to late November, early December so the whole thing can repeat again, while the government probably potentially shut throughout:
Pelosi is down on 2 month debt limit. Says they’d vote for it but they “hope” Rs choose a different path
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) October 9, 2013
Will Obama agree to "negotiate" a mere 1.5 month debt ceiling extension? Wait and see tomorrow.
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Fuck you Yellen!
The new Battle Cry...
DaddyO
House Dems emerge from meeting with Pres Obama reaffiming determination to bring America to an end.
CD emerged from the bathroom determined not to lose any more hair. CD will happily negotiate with Rogaine after hair loss stops.
OT: This just in on the NSA Data Center
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/10/08/2-Billion-NSA-Spy-Center-Going-Flames
DaddyO
That's old news DaddyO.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-08/nsas-utah-spy-supercenter-cripp...
btw, I didn't junk you
Oops, I've been out of town in Tallahassee the past few days, must'a missed that one, sorry...
DaddyO
Don't feel too bad. Obama didn't hear about either until it was on the news, just like the rest of us. He wasn't even in the room the whole time. And, of course, it's the Republicans' fault whatever that bad thing was they just told him about.
Perhaps I'll start taking the Democrats seriously only when they re-reaffirm their determination to end the government partial shutdown.
However, they have to pinky swear that they really, really mean it.
would you notice the government shutdown if you turned off the tv, radio, and computer?
I haven't.
I'd like to notice multiple laser dots on those politicians then hear some popping sounds.
Thus the stormtroopers laying razor wire around public spaces in DC.
Notice how Dems started wanting to talk the day the Dear Leader's poll numbers cratered into the 30's.
No, you haven't noticed anything yet.
If the House of Representatives caves on this you will never have any tether on the Executive.
The goddamned Repukes glorified the Executive when they were out, thus laying the foundation for the last fight now. The "Tea Party" which is hardly Republican Party in the true libertarian faction of same has made their stand now and need some help so that the Executive cannot declare total victory against the small amount of representation that we have left.
Rather than bithching from the sidelines perhaps you can offer your support for the last bastion of a check on executive power.
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and another reason, the "tea party" is the only voice left against Yellen and the abdication of the goomint to the financial interests. It will die asno one cares to actively stop it other than the few libertarian types that got elected on the last cycle. They ain't perfect, but that's all that we have in that asteroid target.
They walked out of the meeting once they agreed on what was going to be served for lunch at tomorrow's meeting. That's all they got accomplished today, I'm sure.
Fuck you Yellin!? Why the fuck you yellin'?
These fucking house democrap POS - starting with that loser/LIAR Steny Hoyer are worthless - they have no power.
What was the point in meeting with them? No one listens to what they say anyways.
P.S. I get it - it was so noone breaks ranks. Good luck with that one -House Dems are pansies.
Here - I'll give you another chance to down arrow me.
Obama can't negotiate - it is not in his DNA - he will get rolled.
Therefore he is trying to bring all the players to the table with him - so that it is not a one to one negotiation with Bo(h)ner.
Why else wouldn't he and Harry Reid refuse to negotiate.
P.S. Also Pelosi just stated that she does not know what the Republicans want to raise the debt limit - Huh? How about defunding or delaying Obamacare.
JUST SHUT THE WHOLE GOVERNMENT DOWN until these clowns come to the negotiating table in good faith. NO MORE LYING OBAMA.
Republicans: Can I burn down your house.
Obama: No
Republicans: Ok then - only the second floor.
Obama: No
Republicans: Ok - just the garage.
Obama: No
Republicans: OK lets sit down and discuss what we are going to burn down.
Obama: No
Republicans: 'YOU WON'T NEGOTIATE!'
Never go full retard.
Too late for this dude.
im seeing this shit all over the place... what is this the SEIU talking points pamphlet?
Obama made an analogy that if you offered to buy someone's house, and they didn't give you the price you wanted, then you would threaten to burn down the house.
The stupid burns.
Good grief, another troll made it past the captcha. Time to switch the format to a short economic or history quiz!
No, no, no.
The problem is not with Bo(h)ner.
It is with Putin. You know - Obama has a monstrous case of penis envy when it comes to Putin, so he is trying to man up by pushing somebody - anybody around.
It's all Putin's fault. The same way that it is all W's fault.
On a serious note, we have had a special debt resolution commision on every by-election since Prez Clinton in '94. If you can't do the math, that was twenty years ago, and five special attempts - the last one being Erskine-Bowles (sp?). Sure it will be different this time. And it can be resolved in just the six weeks of a short term extension until December 1. It hasn't been resolved regardless of who holds the Oval Office or what permutation of political party controls the House/Senate. The longer it goes on, the worse the collapse will be. The Pubs would be doing everybody a favor by just closing shop until post 2014 elections. Let the chips fall where they may - we would be better off. Read what Denninger has to say - "sine dei" I believe he describes.
House Dems emerge from meeting with Pres Obama reaffiming determination to bring America to an end.
That's ok, I'm Canadian. Or at least that what I tell people since this shit's so embarassing.
im tellin that america is gonna go to hellin with yellen, those treasuries china will be sellen, such tragedy will befellen, regardless of the debt ceilen....
keep rappin' in uptown manhattin, yo.
That some fine prose that kito be battlin’.
But there’s no tellin’ what fate awaits each D.C. felon,
I swear it puts thoughts of vigilante dealin’,
And bustn’ control freak head like ripe melon.
But would you tongue punch her fartbox ?
Lot on your knife.
Did your Mom ask you to pull her finger all the time?
Math must not be pelosis strong point...435 reps and shes got 200 votes.....moron
Blah, blah, fucking blah. Let it burn.
Fine Kabuki - http://youtu.be/hlTQUzPZU8Y?t=27s
Hey - that's my line....
The only way to save the country from cancer is to give it some chemo. Letting it burn is the chemo.
Don't mess this up, okay ? ...... Don't mess this up.
Riiiiight, Pelosi... just like we have QE infinity we need the debt ceiling to be lifted? DC Infinity?
Listen, with Obummer's poll numbers in the toilet, they have to find a way out of this mess with their pride in tack...
Pelosi is only a mouthpiece for the real behind the scenes power.
If VJ says it's ok to give a little on time frames for a "compromise" then Obummer will back it and make everyone think it was his idea.
DaddyO
Doesn't matter what these clowns say - in the eyes of the world right now, the US is Zimbabwe.
zimbabwe is exceptional in comparison.
Yes, Robert Mugabe doesn't stutter like Obama
And Mugabe has those super-multi-colourful African shirts he wears at the Zimbabwe political rallies ... Maybe Barack O should consult Mugabe's tailor, it might help fire up O's supporters
Mugabe has some great moments denouncing Western imperialism too, like that wonderful speech where he talked about « Bush and Blair ... the unholy alliance ! » for how they manufactured the fake false-flag evidence to invade Iraq
And beyond that, we are sure of where Mugabe was born, went to school, and that he is a Christian and not a Muslim ...
Just another day inThe District of Criminals.
Steni Hoyer! I see he's quit partying down with Selma Hayek at the bar for a meeting at least!
Yea, I'm surprised he's not wasted yet. Degenerate Criminal pig.
I missed the part about spending cuts?
yawn...
obama will just declare a national emergency, raise the debt ceiling, imprison the republicans for treason, declare martial law, confiscate all weapons, mandate curfews, etc.
so relax, the debt ceiling will be raised!
...jumping hopscotch across the Rubicon.
" Alea Jacta 1-800-F U-CKYO est"
You have no idea how strongly I hope he goes down that road.
"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government." - Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Paris, January 30, 1787
Time to refresh that tree!
Apperantly, these guys have been reading the Federalist Papers, Madison and Jefferson to boot...
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/10/09/urgent-call-to-action-calling-all-oath-keepers-and-all-veterans-to-support-wwii-veterans-at-memorials-to-assist-them-in-whatever-they-want-to-do/
DaddyO
On and on we hear of the rotteness of the "tea party".
Perhaps you should give some of the real ones some credit in actually being the last bulwark against the Merkin Caeser.
Boehner is a tool of the usual shit that has gutted us for decades. There are the real ones that will not bow, so he doesn't have the votes to sell the people that elected the representatives that vowed to stop the goomint from absolute control of all facets of our lives.
Yeah, I am a pollyanna and I will be sold out as always, but there just might be some remnant that takes the mandate of their voters seriously. This will be the last time for this unless the fight is to the end.
The congress is powerless forever if they back down now.
Yeah... we both know if Obama tried pulling that he would have a close encounter with handcuffs or an exploding golf bag faster than a barefoot jackrabbit on a hot greasy griddle in the middle of August.
Iagree--it would be in keeping with this nitwit. Milestones
Look this guy can't even walk and chew gum at the same time, one thing at a time is burning the midnight administrative oil, you ask to have gas thrown in the mix and we will have a really big expolsion on our hands.
The national emergency began on December 23, 1913!
I just need my fix, man! Only for a few days of smack -- not a whole year's supply! /s
Christ, they sound like addicts/junkies. Which is exactly what they are: DEBTAHOLICS!
Did they see their shadows?
Old haglosi is afraid she will croak before the DEADline. Don't any of these raggedy ass, ugly old mofo's ever die?
If I fall out before they do, sit me up in the corner rocking chair with a ZH t-shirt on, with my finger salute flying!
You said "raggedy ass" he he he
Only if you throw a bucket of water on her. Then she will melt!
Yeah, raise the debt ceiling to $34 trillion and spend like drunken sailors. They are so many that believe debt doesn't matter. Time to go even more reckless and see how well the Keynesians do.
In the mean time the rating agencies look the other way.
I resent the drunken sailor line everyone uses. As a sometimes drunken sailor, when I run out of cash, I go back to the boat, not spend money I don't have or demand other people give me their money. Drunken sailors are usually far more responsible than this govt
Forget government shutdown. Jesus was a complete fabrication. http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm
I am starting not to care
Pelosi said that she would love to talk more, but was late for her appointment at the taxidermist.
Pelosi, after what she's done?
In a sane world, she should have to tackle a reporter and have DC cops restrain him at gunpoint in order for her opinion to be heard...about fucking anything.
Oh wait, that would be the premise of ObamaCare.
Neeeveeer miiind ;-)
Too bad Pelosi is in a district that is befuddled by progressivism.
In Colorado, the pols are learning it's not nice to fool with the 2nd Amendment
http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/10/09/colorado-looks-to-boot-3rd-anti-gun-senator-in-another-recall/
DaddyO
Good.
Seems to be the only thing they understand is losing their power and prestige but mostly their salary & pension ;-)
Me thinks the words understand and progressive do not go hand in hand: http://youtu.be/6covdMiwaHI
I'm sure there's a Flakmeister or two out there who blame the Koch brothers for the 'voter suppression'.. ;)
Nah Flak blames everything on that whole Peak Oil thing.
Is it that if they emerge from the meeting and see their shadow, then there's six more weeks of shutdown?
Obamacare will fail the system. Under the pre-existing conditions rule, any hospital admitting an uninsured patient, with a significant and expensive illness such as cancer, will simply sign the patient up on the exchange and pay the premium. It's a great return on investment for the hospital. It's like buying fire insurance after your house is burning out of control. Insurance companies will all be out of business soon, and then we'll get single payer government run medical care.
That people without insurance get treatment in hospitals' ermegency rooms anyway even for minor issues and the insured and taxpayers have to pay for them, seems to be the more economical solution?
I know "shutdown" sounds more dire, but they should call it what it is: "15% of government workers get paid vacation."
15% of government workers get moar paid vacation.
"House Dems emerge from meeting with Pres Obama reaffiming determination to bring Govt shutdown to an end."
...unless it means negotiating or giving up anything! After all, they are the party of the Dictator of Debt, His Unholiness Emperor Obama!
LOL.....not until the tide turns against them in the public opinion, which will never happen with the lapdog media
No debt ceiling change, no POMO.
No POMO, no Janet's printing press.
This is getting funny.
Sound and fury signifying nothing. Same old circus.