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The Un-Official Government Shutdown Clock
Confused at the growing pile of unpaid food-stamps? Unsure just how many non-essential government-workers are still on furlough? Befuddled by the duration of the shutdown? Fear no more, the following interactive "Shutdown Clock" quantifies just how dismal US politics has become.
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https://comparesilverprices.com/images/janet_yellen_head_printer.png No worries, Janet has us covered.
Will be no shutdown, or compromise. Will be last minute "executive order" by our Dear Leader.
Get ready for the first clear sign of the end of an empire. Hail Caesar!!!
Because Obama.
Lending is closed, IRS website verifying income down.
Only current appraisals I get are for defaults & reverse mortgages, don't need income.
why are we paying out so much in WIC?
117 million when i looked
if you cant feed them, stop having them
one would think.
My guess; government benefits are more than the wage at McDonalds.
CUT ALL THAT SHIT BY AT LEAST HALF - INCLUDING DEFENSE. THEN WE'll TALK.
A lot of people are saying exactly that, some very smart people, that'll he'll go full retard and issue an Executive Order usurping Constitutional authority.
Thats the Go Signal my friends, thats a Declaration of War by the Executive, on the People as he proclaims their votes don't count in the House.
But I really don't think he's got the balls ;-)
Been pondering the likelyhood of that myself. Since constitutional government has been in name only for so long this is the next logical chess move. Congressional powers negated in one fell swoop. I can't believe they hadn't seen this coming? After Syria you'd have to have you head buried to your butt not to figure this out.
Youd have to sew a pair on this one, he's no leader. However, his fully weaponed handlers are more brazen by the day and are itching for the right time to grab the power.
Miffed;-)
Well, in my opinion, he's lost the military, from the Colonel on down (which are the most important parts) let me splain why I think so.
Number one is (starting from the beginning), they never "really" trusted him to begin with. He looks at them as a tool to his means, they're not stupid people and have their own eyes & ears.
Number two, for his second inaugural parade the Marine Honor Guard had the bolts in their rifles removed (by his people). Of course they never have live ammo to begin with as you know. And a Marine can suffer a lot of indiginities in the performance of duty but his CnC not trusting his own Honor Guard speaks volumes. To reinforce the indiginity, a young Marine is forced to hold an umbrella over his head, at a press conference, as the press sits in the rain. This is not lost on anyone as to intent or meaning.
Number three, most importantly. Members of the military (in & out of uniform) understand they can be placed in harms way with the deck completely stacked against them and they accept that. It goes with their turf. But there is the understanding they will not be sacrificed needlessly.
They saw their brothers die (yes, out of uniform) in Benghazi, while the CnC was AWOL all night EST. But they were still their brothers no matter what they had been sent there to do by him and the CnC took a powder and let them die.
This is something they all understand intuitively, from the Colonel on down.
I think you have the right of it, but one must also consider that I doubt the military tells Obammy everything. There are certain programs of which he has no knowledge, certain procedures which never see the light of day. I have a feeling there's a military coup on the horizon.
What does the military know about banking? Because if they take over this shitshow, cashflow will be the primary concern. Hell, what do they know about cutting budgets in half, and breaking bad news about non-existent entitlement benefits to millions of seniors?
Just sayin' they better have some good (and trusthworthy) accountants.
There are a lot of different forces & interests at work, some overlapping, some at variance with each other. I can only say (and know) the majority of the rank & file do not have his back. Is this bordering on sedition?
Only the NSA courts know for sure and they're not answerable, at least to the public ;-)
you mean his puppet masters that type his telepromted commands right?
yes, THOSE reptiles will do whatever the fuck they want.. Obama is just the salesman
The thing with salesmen is, a good one, is only as honest as he needs to be and always tells you of all the good things his product will do for you, in order to make the sale.
Not whether or not you can afford or pay for it long run, thats the purchasers problem, after the fact ;-)
Anthony Robbins for President! Use NLP to make the Sale. Fck the consequences. Where's Lola? I'm in the mood.
I concede your point. It is valid. San Diego is a military town. A perfect place to find the pulse of military outlook. I have actively sought out opinions of active and retired. Their voice is unanimous and NOT tempered. I cannot divulge the vehemence on a public forum but coming from a group indoctinated to respect authority, I'm a bit shocked. This is the only achilles heel of this regime and proof they haven't studied history. Hitler could not have succeded with out military support. This is 100% critical in a fascist state. How this could be overlooked is unfathonable. I know many here believe it will be bought off. I don't see this. Men are more rallied by ideology than money. I don't see any that any will take a bullet for this man. I wouldnt be shocked if this intense domestic spying is really a hope to expose a possible coup d'état. Not that any capable of this would allow themselves to be so easily captured.
Miffed;-)
They focused on controlling: Domestic police, and the court system.
The ones who get kicked out of the military for being sociopaths go where? Law enforcement.
"The ones who get kicked out of the military for being sociopaths go where? Law enforcement."
Ding...nailed it.
Not everyone is mentally cut out for either occupation, law enforcement gets a lot of washouts, from ex-military and from society in general.
I once had a supervisor (non-military) who couldn't pass the psych-test to even be a cop, his big ego trip from then on was stopping traffic to let out church traffic on Sunday mornings.
They take in all kinds in "law enforcement" and most I wouldn't trust with my dog but at least they said nyet to this guy...a real hut-hut guy (picture Blues Brothers SWAT Team toward the end)...a freak who should have been institutionalized instead of waving the faithful on through traffic.
Makes ya think...lol.
That little local elementary school crossing guard may be driven by the same psychosis as the average sociopathic dictator. It's a matter of degree and power.
An acquaintence of mine years ago worked as a counselor/therapist in a maximum security,mental institution that housed near one thousand inmates. An experienced, no-bullshit kinda guy with a Phd. One of his duties was to evaluate prospective CO's (correction officers aka 'jail guards') for psychological fitness. He told me there was no discernable difference on the tests he administered between the inmates and the vast number of incoming guards that he tested.
"(Honest men of integrity) are more rallied by ideology than money."
Had to fix that ;-)
" honest men of integrity". Sorry Nmewn but not true.
Consider ideology of Hitler The ideological roots which became German "National Socialism" were based on numerous sources in European history, drawing especially from Romantic 19th Century idealism, and from a biological misreading of Friedrich Nietzsche's thoughts on "breeding upwards" toward the goal of an Übermensch (Superhuman). Hitler was an avid reader and received ideas that were later to influence Nazism from traceable publications.
Ideology, unfortunately, can be used for good or evil ends.
Miffed;-)
I have NO first-hand knowledge about any of these interesting and crucial points, however, I would think that a lot of the military people, like first responders during 9/11/2001, now know that the established systems do not warn them about the real risks, but rather, deliberately allowed them to become debilitated. I think that those not killed MIGHT get stronger in their resentment over the ways that their leadership was actively conspiring to use their lives up, to advance a deceitful agenda, while not caring about the longer term consequences to health and well-being, from having to work in toxic environments, while getting bad medical treatments and worse medical advice. I think that there was a recognition that veterans were potentially dangerous to the established systems, and therefore, there was a plan to covertly mass murder them, through the soft-kill techniques, such as being poisoned, or vaccinated with evil intent, etc. ... ??? (Of course, I am merely speculating.)
I'm not a military person at all, never served, I'm just a 6 pack joe, but I will never ever forget seeing that Marine holding that umbrella over Obama's head. I never felt such intense loathing of a president before.
Funny thing. When I saw this I was reminded of Cassius Chaerea, the man that assassinated Caligula because of all the derogatory things Caligula made him do. This man had a distinguished military career. He was executed and chose his own sword that killed Caligula to be his weapon of execution. Wow, what an impressive man! I think he was hoping for a reestablishment of the republic but the Praetorian Guard installed Claudius as emperor.
Miffed;-)
Interesting historical point, Miffed. These past few years I continue to explore various aspects of the decline of the Roman Empire, especially the economic slant. To say there are umpteen parallels to today's situation would be to state the obvious.
The tenacity of the status quo, however, was fierce and wide-ranging, especially in the area of raising revenue (taxes).
I understand your fascination. In the 90s I got turned on to Colleen McCullough's historical fiction novels which spring boarded me into more serious readings such as Julius Caesars Commentary on the Gallic War. The parallel are striking and eerie. I haven't found any other historical example that has such a wide range of validity. Strange a society almost 2000 years ago can have such application today.
Miffed;-)
Well, that 2000 year time spread emphatically tells me of the universal application of human nature. Looking past any era's superficial trappings, men and women will - over and over again - act in somewhat similar fashion in similar situations, both micro and macro. That is one reason why I find history so instructive as well as fascinating.
The ancient Greeks supposedly had a different way of viewing the passage of time than we do. Rather than peering ahead into the future, they would look backwards, as in seeing the trailing wake of a boat, in order to gain a more accurate sense of the direction in which they were headed.
Perhaps Edmund Burke said it best. Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.
In reality humanity is universal. We all have similar needs, aspirations, moral delemmas, challenges. We grapple with anger, hate, lust, greed and fears. These transcend time and provide a link to all those who have gone before and will be born in the future. Answers to so many questions can be found in history and I find the hubris of those who state " our time is different" very unsettling. I laugh at those who look to the future as the answer to ameliorate ills of the present. The past is so much more instructive but perhaps these facts are a bit too unpalatable for some.
Miffed;-)
Did you see the Internet and cell phone usage the day Obama was re-elected? Because of the majority of the people supported the Republican shutdown during the past days, Internet usage and cell phone usage should have spiked for the Republicans. Didn't happen.
End of a republic, beginning of a full-tilt dictatorship.
Five minutes until midnight on the meltdown clock. Do you know where your fiat is tonight?
<Hopefully it's buying the f**king dip in Gold and Silver.>
BTW if you click the image you'll find a table called "Government Services Affected". Congress is listed as "functioning". Too funny.
I got a kick out of "Border Patrol" making the same "functioning" list of .gov services. Come to think of it any .gov service listed as functioning is a joke.
Total furloughed number = WRONG. And even with that much furloughed, the government still runs a huge deficit.
$1,676,570,840 EST Unpaid salary... unpaid salary? You mean, money saved?Funny...I have not missed them one bit.
I've got a serious problem being taxed to pay for, 883,392 "non-essential workers" no matter what current shiny object is being held up for me to look at.
If they're non-essential they should be laid off permanently...period.
Thats the REAL shiny object being held up for all to see...the fucking bloated POS that is federal government.
Those non-essential workers will get back pay for this. They lose nothing, in fact get free paid time off. I bet they don't even have to use vacation for this.
It's all part of turning Red Team gubmint workers into Blue Team gubmint workers. "Who paid you for all that time off, huh? Huh? And who would have let you go permanently? Huh?"
There are hardly any red-team gubmint workers ... just like there are hardly any red-team teachers or professors or 'journalists'. And when discovered they are rooted out whenever possible.
Don't you get it?
LOL. Who does the military work for?
Lockheed contractors?
Spooks?
If your check comes either directly or indirectly from the government, and you get a hard on hearing "National Security," you might be a red team government worker.
Pssst, stop looking at the teams and look at who owns the league.
pods
Thank you. Hard to believe that people still fall for the red/blue bullshit. Especially as they bash the current POTUS, who differs only in appearance from the previous do-no-gooder. ;-D
Thats the problem, they lose nothing, yet its portrayed as they will and are.
And again, they're non-essential.
I also want to take this opportunity with you to say, though we don't always agree, (not sure everyone should anyways, in order to a have a fully functioning society...lol) you're one of the good guys as far as I'm concerned ;-)
Thank you. I take that as a great compliment. I think you are too. I find that considering other points of view expands my understanding of a topic. While I don't subscribe to the red team/blue team meme anymore, I remember a time when people whose political leanings were on the other side of the fence were looked at as the loyal opposition, not demons incarnate, and we all believed that while the paths were different everybody was trying to get to the same place.
Characteristic of my way of looking at things as being presented in a Bizarro Mirror World Fun House, where everything backwards ... when I look at the list of what was shut down, and what was not, I feel that most of the "nonessential" things shut down were the only things that I would have liked to see stay open, while most of the "essential" things not shut down were those things which I would rather have been shut down instead!
E.G.:
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/why-didnt-shutdown-cut-funding-dea-its-one...
Why Didn't the Shutdown Cut Funding for the DEA? Its One of the Least 'Essential' Govt. Agenciesfood stamps, disability, etc, etc, never shutdown, can't wait until the end
I love the Orwellian double speak.
Defense: 56% furloughed
Department of Homeland Security: 14% furloughed
The functions these names conjure in ones mind is so similar.
And even more amusing....Yosemite and the Grand Canyon are closed? Hahahahaha, what the fuck does that even mean? That I don't have to pay to see something that has been there for centuries? Actually sounds like a deal.
Hmmmmmm, paid vacation.....
This government shutdown has not had any effect on my life. Business is still going on, bought my groceries for the week, UPS delivered my packages. Haven't noticed a thing.
I took my son for a walk on this nice 72 degree fall day in a city park. Said hello to the groundskeeper. My son asked him about his lawnmower.
The city utility workers were out hanging decorations for Halloween.
I heard some hippy granola eaters complaining that the 4k run in the national park was cancelled. OH NO WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO!!!! I guess they can only run if the federal government allows them to. God it must suck to buy a pair of $150 running shoes and not be able to use them unless Obama says you can. At least I don't have to worry about them shutting down the roads for four hours on Saturday.
Yep, the government shutdown has been great. It proves we don't need Washington DC at all.
UPS is shit compared to USPS
people are talking out of their ass saying otherwise (cost, service, etc)
You all wanna get really pissed? They are fining runners for jogging through Valley Forge Park. They say the park is closed?! It's like 50,000 acres of trails and paths! $100 bitch. Fall in line!
They wanna fine me, they're gonna have to catch me! Why stop running to receive a fine?
I think - in a somewhat peculiar perspective - that this type of behavior is GREAT! We all can sit and type and bitch about how wicked much of the government activities are ,... but c'mon people. Except for the alphabet agencies monitoring us, ALL of the readers, posters, contributors on this site have at least SOME/MUCH antipathy towards big guv.
LET the feds start frog-marching a bunch of pigeon-feeding grannies to the hoosegow. ENCOURAGE the Smokey the Bears to zip-tie legions of soccer moms for having the AUDACITY to take their toddlers for a bucolic, Sunday morning stroll. LOCKING UP/HOLDING HOSTAGE tourists - including many from overseas - in Yellowstone last week? (BTW u really shd read about THAT atrocity), FUCK 'EM!!! I say they should have DRONED THE SHIT OUT OF 'EM. Just where the fuck did those foreigners think they were, North Waziristan or something? Is there really much difference anymore people???
I think the more those mainstream, salt-of-the-earth Americans see and experience this shit, the more chance there is for change ... hope, even. :)
Who is handing out that fine? If its local police, then one would think they either have nothing better to do (thus rendering them non-essential), or they are spread rather thin (in which case they need to prioritize).
Only 14% of government workers have been furloughed. The government is not "shut down" and the debt clock is still ticking.
So, it's a Free-For-All on Wall St. -- more so than usual -- with the CFTC and SEC 'AWOP'*.
And with 74% of Obama's staff gone, why, Michelle might actually have to cook her own meals. /s
I'm hoping that with the FCC also gone, that TV execs will push the boundary a bit, and show us more "skin" on TV. Not that "skin" (body parts) are anything "shameful", if you're not a prude.
* AWOP: Absent WithOut Pay.
..wake i when this over.....
Give us our money back and let us hire our own "essential services".
but what about the roads? ;)
To make the clock really meaningful, put next to it the AMOUNT OF DEBT the government has run up since it was so-called SHUT DOWN.
Because the debt ceiling was raised 130 times while W was in office.
94% of the SEC is furloughed. HOW WILL THEY KEEP THE MARKETS FROM BEING MANIPULATED NOW!?!?!
/sarc
I thought the pentagon and defense/intelligence employees were called back into work and the furloughed number is now 450k?
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-10-05/business/42743903_1_government-shutdown-debt-ceiling-president-obama
It's my understanding that they are still technically furloughed but are working and not getting paid. No one gets paid until Congress passes a budget or CR. At least that's how it is in the agency I work for..
Interesting, and what would happen if you don't come in to work? I'm sure there are legal ramifications in regards to them threatening your job. Thanks for sharing.
I was talking to a DoD employee who is working without pay. He said Chuck Hagel has the power to keep anyone who is directly supporting the morale and welfare of the troops working, even if they aren't getting paid at the moment.
I reminded him of what the Soviets used to say, "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work."\
Have ya noticed how they call it debt held by the public? I KNOW I never spent that much money. And when I paid my taxes, I expected them to be responsible with the money, but I don't think they passed Econ 101. The debt they ran up, is NOT my problem.
So there is $13 million a day not being payed to WIC recipients.
Thats a lot of hungry people no?
When do they all start rioting for food? They say we are only 9 meals away from chaos, not 9 days....
Does anyone notice what a big fat dangerous pig defense is? Combine that with the other para-military outfits on the chart and you see a gread big Hermann Goering FAT PIG parasite natzi. Ike I envoke you!
Thanks to miffed for the historical perspectives and to all others for insightful comments.
Anecdotally, a friend of mine has a son in the military who refused to report for duty because he would not be paid - was told not to report by his CO. The military is ready to act in case of emergency. If martial law is ordered or any homeland military action proposed, it will be the shithole DHS alone, against the military and the citizens.
As I said the other day, THIS IS OUR MOMENT. We should take the advice of Rahm: "Never let a crisis go to waste."
We have the federal government dealing self-inflicted wounds upon itself. We could not have asked for more. Like it or not, they have incurred permanent damage to their credibility. This is the beginning of the end, FOR THEM. America will still be here when the federal government has fully self-destructed. I have been advising friends to check the pulse of their state governments, because they will be fully in charge soon, as it was always meant to be.
Nobody, outside the federal workers (and even many of them are doubters), trusts or sides with the federal government at this point. Their self-destruction is practically assured. Trust in the people to do what's right at every juncture into the future. This is going to get very, very ugly, very soon. Six months hence, we will be jubilant.
Carpe Diem.
Do the People wanting more government workers furloughed realize that they are giving all of them a paid vacation? How does that save money?
If it was unpaid, it could be part of a statement to say they are un-needed, but this way you get no labor, yet you pay them. Also when they come back, OT will be authorized to catch back up.
Am I wrong?