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10 Disturbing Facts About "Exceptional" America

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1. 65% of Americans say news organizations focus on unimportant stories rather than on important ones (28%).

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2. More express concern over civil liberties (47%) than protection from terrorism (35%) for the first time in Pew Research Center polling.

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3. 3% of Americans still connect to the internet at home via a dial-up connection.

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4. During the first two years of the nation’s economic recovery, the mean net worth of households in the upper 7% of the wealth distribution rose by an estimated 28%, while the mean net worth of households in the lower 93% dropped by 4%.

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5. For the first time in more than four decades of polling on the issue, a majority (52%) of Americans favor legalizing the use of marijuana.

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6. 15% of American adults do not use the internet or email.

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7. 56% of U.S. adults say they would not want to undergo medical treatments to slow the aging process and live to be 120 or more, but roughly two-thirds (68%) think that most other people would. 

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8. In 23 of 39 nations surveyed, a majority or plurality of the people say China either already has replaced or eventually will replace the U.S. as the top superpower.

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9. One-in-ten (7.7 million) children were living with a grandparent in 2011. Approximately 3 million of these children were being cared for primarily by that grandparent.

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10. In 2012, 36% of the nation’s young adults ages 18 to 31—the so-called Millennial generation—were living in their parents’ home.

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Via Pew Research

 

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Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:28 | 4043761 LetThemEatRand
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We are numero uno, yo.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:40 | 4043797 Keyser
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The only thing the US is number one in is invading countries with brown people and liberating them from their freedom. 

 

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:56 | 4043833 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Freedom = Gold, oil, or dope. We liberate their freedom to our side.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:39 | 4043902 Oh regional Indian
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All signs of decline. Once the family unit was well and truly taken apart in the 60's and the boomer generation was put in the much villified selfish place that they are, th eonly way was down.

Computers and tech gadgets in general were actually the final nail in the generational divide coffin. Made to believe that machine friendliness is the new mantra, parents ceded superior status to their tech friendly kids....

Clever people, these peeteebees.

breaking the systems back, oxy-moronically enough is achieved by getting off it. They love the load of debt-serfs.

ori

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/in-o-vation-engineering-principles-blowing-in-the-wind/

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 03:34 | 4044098 J Pancreas
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Pimp your blog once on someone else's traffic: shame on you. Pimp your blog every single post you make: annoying and automatic junk from me.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 06:28 | 4044178 GetZeeGold
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Does anyone have the French version of this?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 06:43 | 4044190 pavman
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As close as you're going to get... the infographics might be available on pew's site for translation....

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=en&tl=fr&u=http%3A//www.zerohed...

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:42 | 4044730 orez65
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"All signs of decline"

I don't think that children moving back with their parents is a sign of decline. It's a sign of the parents caring for their children.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 10:00 | 4044846 detached.amusement
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Of course it is.  Its a sign that the kids can't make it on their own, why the hell else would anyone over the age of 18 want to continue living with their parents?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:59 | 4044818 Diogenes
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"All signs of decline. Once the family unit was well and truly taken apart in the 60's and the boomer generation was put in the much villified selfish place that they are, th eonly way was down."

And that is why 36% of the Millennial  generation is living in their boomer parents home. God you're dumb.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 10:00 | 4044839 squib
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It's a great blog. One I would have never found if ORI hadn't linked it. What is a human to do but whatever is his best interest? (linking the blog, which I have no problem with, it's many others whose blogs' suck...that suck) What'd I do there?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 06:42 | 4044187 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

The only thing the US is number one in is invading countries with brown people and liberating them from their freedom.

Hey, just a second there. Let's give credit where it's due. The US is the number one innovator, manufacturer, and exporter of scams, frauds, and grifts. That's no small achievement.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:41 | 4044410 GeezerGeek
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Hey, somebody has to do it, right? As Phil Ochs sang over 40 years ago, We're the Cops of the World, Boys!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:44 | 4044737 orez65
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"We're the Cops of the World, Boys!"

Let the Chinese do it and you'll see how fast they'll call the Americans back.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:30 | 4043767 remain calm
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Looking good.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:33 | 4043771 A Lunatic
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Disturbing to whom........?

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:10 | 4043773 Call me Ishmael
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Who keeps this site going? Are they really just people unaffiliated with the government and cockamamie corporate schemes?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:01 | 4044284 GMadScientist
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You do. Make a donation.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:35 | 4043776 LetThemEatRand
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We're still kicking Africa's ass!  So we've got that going for us.   China is investing where, again?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 05:05 | 4044141 Lost My Shorts
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On China investing in Africa, see this:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2013/10/china-zambia-and-...

bzzt bzzt bzz [LIBERAL MEDIA WARNING] [LIBERAL MEDIA WARNING] [LIBERAL MEDIA WARNING] bzzt bzzt bzzt

The idea that China will waltz in, take all of Africa's wealth, poison all the people, and saunter back out is somewhat simplified.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:59 | 4044281 GMadScientist
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Step back a little bit and look at the wider perspective for a moment; China is at the larval stage of Empire (compare to the US policy towards the Phillipines around the start of the 20th century). It'll be awhile before they recognize they've spread too far and have too much to protect and too little to gain from it (compare to the US policy towards Afghanistan at present).

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:32 | 4043778 Teddy Tenpole
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#11  still the best chant in all of international sports:

U S A U S A U S A U S A...

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:03 | 4043852 prains
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 still the most pretentious chant in all of international sports:

 

it's funny how y'all ride on the backs of incredible black athletes in international competition yet in domestic life you do nothing but denegrate them as inferior. You are the most exceptionally hypocritical country for sure and it has a lot to do with your "christian" pretension as well.

 

it's funny how your famous white athletes <Flance> ....cough... have to lie, cheat and steal to win

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:29 | 4043891 Troll Magnet
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STFU BITCH!

Name one country that's been better to black people than the U.S.
Name ONE.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:57 | 4043927 Terminus C
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Canada...

Canada took out its aggression on the natives... Of course, Americans did to that "better" too...

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 00:45 | 4043979 Troll Magnet
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riiiiight. they have so many black leaders, professionals and millionaires in canada. we OTOH make millionaires out of thugs rapping about sex, drugs and murder. top THAT.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 05:09 | 4044142 prains
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you're exceptionally well informed

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 06:40 | 4044186 StandardDeviant
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Well, it was the endpoint of the Underground Railroad, presumably for a reason.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 06:38 | 4044183 StandardDeviant
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Um, Britain, in New Zealand?  Read about the Treaty of Waitangi, signed in 1840 by the Maori chiefs and representatives of Queen Victoria, in which (to oversimplify greatly) she would become the sovereign over the islands in return for keeping out the bloody French.

Not a perfect treaty, or uncontroversial, but surely one of the more enlightened interactions between a colonial power and an indigenous population.  (Compare and contrast with Australia, Canada, ...)

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 06:57 | 4044196 Oquities
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if black people were the majority in Canada or the US, white folk would be decimated by violence and racial hate, you white bitch!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:15 | 4044575 matrix2012
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"if black people were the majority in Canada or the US, white folk would be decimated by violence and racial hate, you white bitch!"

 

Give the Black people their duly chance FIRST then perhaps we may agree with you later on!!! ^-^

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 01:10 | 4044007 RaceToTheBottom
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Lance was just misunderstood....

Society made him what he is

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 01:42 | 4044042 Manic by Proxy
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Your use of "y'all" marks you as hailing from southern Bumfuckistan. Your demagoguery and jingoism, along with wild generalizations further refine your place of origin as the incredibly stupid part of southern Bumfuckistan. But your handle is tre uber cool and stuff.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 04:24 | 4044120 zhandax
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What part of 'take your lame ass to hupo' do you have a problem with, dickweed?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 04:47 | 4044132 prains
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Manic

 

you must be the smartest person in your ward for sure LOL

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 03:32 | 4044096 rivoniaboy
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We gave them Detroit, great fucking sucess they made there buddy.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 05:13 | 4044144 prains
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yes

 

as "successful" as the "cars" built in Detroit too!

 

I hear you're driving the new Chevy Marxist, a purple convertible no less, nice choice...just remember the SPF 30 for the chrome

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 05:46 | 4044161 rivoniaboy
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Answer the question!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 06:47 | 4044191 GetZeeGold
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Detroit has been under progressive care for over 40 years now.

 

It's finally hit the rest of America!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 10:13 | 4044932 prains
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i did, the city was economically abandoned, total set up

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:28 | 4044653 LongBallsShortBrains
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Purple gums. .

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 05:34 | 4044153 Urban Redneck
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No, hypocrisy is attempting to argue that science would apply only to CERTAIN (politically acceptable) outcomes of a given process.

Athletics are international in nature and encompass sports practiced in all seasons, so focusing on the certain sports and the US population geographically is rather unscientific to begin with, but the road that YOU begin down leads to some really ugly but very scientifically sound conclusions about race and the American population, that were the result of a perverse collaboration between "Christian" Europeans, Muslim Arabs and largely polytheistic Africans.

Human beings aren't any smarter today than were hundreds of years ago, some are better read or educated and most have more advanced tools and methods at their disposal, but how do you you think the various breeds of domesticated animals that exist today, and in some cases have existed for many centuries if not millennia, came into being? It wasn't by accident- it was a very intentional and scientific process, just as the slave TRADE was about maximizing ROI and obtaining and moving inventory with features and benefits that maximized the product selling price.

But yeah, it is a pretentious and obnoxious chant. "Intelligent" would have been leaving it at that.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:49 | 4044257 snr-moment
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Yeah!!!!  Like Ben Johnson!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:03 | 4044288 HardAssets
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completely irrelevant . . . spectator 'sports' are nothing but the circus part of 'bread & circuses' - who gives a damn  (except brainless morons)

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:46 | 4044423 GeezerGeek
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Not to mention Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa, but I'm colorblind in that respect so who cares? 

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:42 | 4044734 LongBallsShortBrains
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Prains:

Do you equate physical ability with civilized behavior?

Is it possible that the individuals with the most testosterone, and physical speed, are not as disposed to civilized behavior as the individuals with the most creativity, and ability to think and learn?

Running the hundred yard dash, a marathon, or kicking a ball with inventing, discovering, and thinking?

Would you rather people overlook the savage crimes and primitive decisions made by some people because they are the same color as a person who can win a running race?

Talk about racist.

Do you consider a dog who can run faster than a human, jump higher than a human, a superior being? I will denigrate dogs as inferior when you decide to give them all rights and turn them loose in the classrooms of America, even though I can respect their physical superiority.

They are all individuals. A genius is a genius no matter what the number of geniuses in his race.
A primitive savage acts savagely no matter the number of geniuses in his race.

If you don't like generalizations about race when applied to individuals, you shouldn't use the same method as a straw man to defend savage behavior, no matter the race of the savage.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:57 | 4044833 hivekiller
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That's all blacks are good at. They are dumb but good athletes. Do we need them? Sure, like we need Honey Boo Boo. For entertainment only.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:39 | 4043791 rubiconsolutions
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< ------ Useless facts

< ------ Really, REALLY useless facts

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:49 | 4043812 Cabreado
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What the world is looking for is confirmation that humility, creativity, energy -- in the absence of control -- is the way to go.

The above facts fit nicely.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:50 | 4043815 bunnyswanson
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The end game is monopolization of every major industry held by ONE MAN.  It will be living hell.  The path there is a protocol which is improvised as necessary, including pulling back and pushing forward according to the public perception and response at any given time.

 

The set up and the entrapment, then the lectures and austerity.  The savior will be adored because death will be the only alternative.  A HOLOCAUST IS COMING and this is how they decided it should happen.  IMF tells us we have been bad and ~deserve this~ for being Big Spenders while giving the politicians their tax-cuts-to-victory speeches.  Predatory lending.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:01 | 4043848 buyingsterling
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It will be heaven if that man is ME :)

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 04:28 | 4044126 zhandax
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Hate to tell you, but G. Soros has paid someone to stand in line in front of you.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:54 | 4043917 Mike in GA
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they are sneakin up on you now, Bunny.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 04:07 | 4044112 bunnyswanson
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What they are doing is eliminating my ability to provide a living for myself while simultaneously increased the cost of living.  Roadblocks to education, work, healthcare (quality), lending institution is what it adds up to.  Go to Zillow and over your town, do a "search foreclosures or preforeclosed homes" and look at all the blue arrows.  It's my conclusion they are corraling/snaring us while disgused as govt safety nets and favors.

 

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:28 | 4044231 Oldwood
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There is no roadblock to education. It simply requires you to indebt yourself potentially for life, to purchase a worthless ticket to prosperity. The only people who seem to get the underlying message of the true path to prosperity are the thieves.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:48 | 4044436 GeezerGeek
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The government exists to serve us. Probably in the sense of the Twilight Zone episode, unfortunately.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:48 | 4044762 LongBallsShortBrains
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To whom are we being served? And for what? Lunch? Or dinner?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 01:02 | 4044001 Seer
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There's 7+ BILLION people on the planet, most of which couldn't be directly controlled: many may have the appearance of being so, but in reality they will keep going no matter what power plays are being made (they are of little consequence, so applying a bunch of energy to "control" them is pretty stupid- "the meek shall inherit the earth," we already know who it turns out...).

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:38 | 4043792 Dr Benway
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The only thing disturbing about a majority approving marijuana legalization is that it's taken so long to reach this obvious conclusion, and that people still are and will continue to be jailed for MJ, despite this majority support.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:56 | 4043835 Tijuana Donkey Show
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The pharm team can't have anyone cut into their profits. Gotta hit the numbers.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:44 | 4044247 Chaos_Theory
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Nor the MIC.  Tokers don't invade countries.  Just 7-11.

REF:  Jamaica

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:06 | 4044296 GMadScientist
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I'd cast a suspicious eye towards the Po-lice and Prison Complex as well; if you had to choose between harassing potheads and investigating armed and dangerous criminals, which would you choose? This way, they get to look "tough on crime" without actually having to fight any.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:50 | 4044781 LongBallsShortBrains
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I've personally witnessed the saving or extending the life of dozens of terminal patients with extracts of this amazing plant.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:59 | 4043843 nasa
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 Low risk offenders are the cornerstone of the for-profit-prison system.  So the odds of MJ being legal in the uSSa are $$$$

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 01:47 | 4044043 Lore
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People who waste mental energy concerning themselves with dope legalization are pampered people indeed.

STAY FOCUSED ON REAL PROBLEMS.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 03:09 | 4044089 ether
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LOL

 

#11 99.999999% of indignant internet patriots will never leave their fapstations.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:03 | 4044289 Random
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Weed criminalization is one of the greatest crime ever committed against humanity. If a supposedly free man cannot grow the crop of his choice, on his land or whatever and on his own dime and time you are living in a totalitarian society the likes of which was unheard of before the 20th century. What you consider a meaningless issue in fact stands at the core of liberty and is a fight well worth fighting for.

Are you to say that lack of even the basic liberty of choosing what crop to grow is trivial? Back in the day the slaves could grow whatever they wanted in their allotted tract of land but you will be thrown in prison for doing the same. You tell me now who is freer from this point of view.

 

Mon, 10/14/2013 - 23:04 | 4054789 Lore
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No offense, but I want to offer more perspective.  Do you not know that drugs are an instrument of social control?  Look up "Opium Wars."  Why is a group in the military accused of having taken over and dramatically expanded Afghani poppy crops?  Talk to people living on skid row in any city.  Find out how they got where they are.  (Most start with something "innocent" like weed.) Ask yourself why government is pushing "Harm Reduction" programs (sustainable cash flow).  Drugs are about CONTROL.

It may be simplistic, but I submit that informed people who willingly choose to put such shit in their systems are not rational and hence not capable of being their own judges with respect to personal freedom.  Their short-sighted self-absorption leads to addiction, ruins careers, breaks up families, destroys lives, costs a fortune in health care and other taxpayer-paid services (feeding bigger government), and is just generally a source of penalty and heartache to the people around them.  You want to "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?"  Strive to set a higher personal standard in all areas of your life, including diet and recreation and the company you keep. 

When SHTF, sick dopeheads will have no semblance of a "safety net" upon which to unload themselves.  What a day that will be!  FREEDOM!

Mon, 10/14/2013 - 23:38 | 4054928 Miffed Microbio...
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This is true Lore. However I submit to you where I sit legalized pharm is just as damaging to society as the illicit. "Soma" is available in many forms. Drugs have been taken over by big Pharm and are the new Pushers. People are beguiled by a white lab coated professional who appears to have their interests at heart. Americans,in alarming numbers, have become drug addicts.

It's not unusual for me to see people come into my hospital on 30 different meds. Many prescribed due to the bad outcome of a previously prescribed med. Until people wake up and realize they've been tricked and take control of their own health, there is no hope for them. If we truly experience a economic crisis, those living precariously by handfuls of meds will not survive. They and their loved ones will pay dearly for their lack of vision.

I must admit I do wish to be free of the economic burden paying for their largely personal bad choices. I am not obese nor do i take any meds and work diligently to be healthy. I am not without compassion. There just are too many now to support.

Miffed;-)

Fri, 10/18/2013 - 14:31 | 4069661 Lore
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Hi Miffed!  Your note about "illicit" vs. "legal" pharma brings to mind the adage that organized crime expands to a point where it becomes indistinguishable from government.  (To that we must obviously add banks and corporations.)  I am with you 100%.  I have my own nightmare experiences with The Pill Cup and The Needle.  The modern hospital room is one of many fronts in the war.  But the street corner is another.  Taking and keeping control of our health and standing up to encroaching Statists means avoiding both.  Rgds

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:07 | 4044301 GMadScientist
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"Real Problems" like what kind of coupon you can collect on your bonds?

Sorry, but it was exactly this kind of sweeping civil liberties under the rug that got us here in the first place, asshat.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:39 | 4044245 Oldwood
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The only freedoms we will be granted are those that encourage a mindless life of indebtedness. Our government has taken everything that WAS recognized as potentially damaging to society, first made it illlegal to justify the growth of a prison state, and then once the power is in hand, proceed to legalize the same, levering that power even further. Anyone think that a population stoned and burdened with gambling debt is going to be democratically stronger or weaker? Booze saw the same thing being first freely sold and consumed with little or no regulation, to illegalization and institution of large government investigation, prosecution and imprisonment systems, and then leagalization with substantial control and taxation. Gambling, again the same. This has a pattern and while most of us would embrace the concept of government getting their hands off of these liberties, you can bet if they do it, it is to THEIR advantage.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:17 | 4044320 Random
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" Anyone think that a population stoned and burdened with gambling debt is going to be democratically stronger or weaker?".

Democracy is not something good, despite what you've been told. It sounds nice on paper but in practice turns in the favorite system for the elite, plutocracy/oligarchy.

Oh, and smoking weed, contrary to the prevalent "wisdom" doesn't make you dumb and passive, on the contrary it helps a lot (provided you have something to start with). The part with gambling debt i don't get it in relation with weed, but maybe you're talking about the elite gambling with our future and treasure and the crippling debt passed ontu us and our children.

 

Edit due to dyslexia/spelling.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:01 | 4044500 Oldwood
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I can't say definitively that weed makes you dumb other than simply demonstrating stupidity. I grew up with almost all of my friends as pot heads and speed freaks, so I know a little of what I speak. this was forty years ago and from what I understand potentcy has increased substantially so I can't see how it is better. Gambling is gambling. How many people are out spending income they really need on lotto tickets. How many are financially ruined by gambling. My brother in law lost his enheritance and life's saving by gambling in the stock market. For all those who brag about how smart they are in the stock market, my brother in law's savings are what you are paying for your new benz with. Gambling is destructive on just about any level that involves money. The winners never want to talk about the losers, other than being muppets. What kind of person revels in profits at the cost to others? Captalism and organic commerce is based on the concept that there are no losers. Everyone should profit from the trade. Gambling only awards one side, and unfortunately its almost always the same side.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:56 | 4044805 LongBallsShortBrains
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No Benz from the market.

But thanks to your brother in law for a few fill ups of 100 low lead

; )

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 11:02 | 4045108 Random
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"I can't say definitively that weed makes you dumb other than simply demonstrating stupidity" - not due to weed, dumb is dumb with or without weed.

"I grew up with almost all of my friends as pot heads and speed freaks, so I know a little of what I speak." - i see you've put together pot heads to speed freaks as either to make them just as bad...What do you mean, that all your friends are dumb? I just can't understand what you're saying.

"this was forty years ago and from what I understand potentcy has increased substantially so I can't see how it is better" - generally not true for what people smoke everyday so 99% propaganda.

"Gambling is gambling. How many people are out spending income they really need on lotto tickets. How many are financially ruined by gambling. My brother in law lost his enheritance and life's saving by gambling in the stock market. For all those who brag about how smart they are in the stock market, my brother in law's savings are what you are paying for your new benz with. Gambling is destructive on just about any level that involves money. The winners never want to talk about the losers, other than being muppets. What kind of person revels in profits at the cost to others? Captalism and organic commerce is based on the concept that there are no losers. Everyone should profit from the trade. Gambling only awards one side, and unfortunately its almost always the same side." - not due to weed.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:53 | 4044451 GeezerGeek
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By that line of reasoning, if 51% approve of a government that supports a Free Stuff Army, it must be the way to go.

The majority isn't always right. (This comment has nothing to do with my views on marijuana.)

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:41 | 4043796 A Lunatic
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<-----Legalize recreational drugs

<-----Continue to pay 50k + per year to house 'felons'

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:53 | 4043825 NoDebt
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Couldn't agree more.  Make them pay fines, but don't put them in prison.  Make them pay us, don't make us pay for them.

It all started with MADD.  Before they existed, DUI was a summary traffic offense unless you injured/killed somebody (cops would drive you home after citing you, so you didn't crash your car into somebody or something).  Now DUI is BIG business.

Guess where MADD gets a good chunk of its money?  The private prison system lobby.  Anyone says they're surprised should be forced to get drunk and plow through a DUI checkpoint.  It's a RACKET and has been since the day MADD was founded.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:59 | 4043840 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Just like insurance companies and radar guns for small towns. Jack up the rates. People shouldn't drive smashed though, it sucks for other people too often.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 00:09 | 4043945 Zero Point
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Pay fines? Why not simply tax them as products, and sell them like alcohol.

I don't see why cops should waste their time even LOOKING for drugs.

If people want to fuck up their brain and/or life, that's their business, and they're doing it fine right now on legal substances anyway.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 00:45 | 4043983 adr
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The problem is the people with fucked up brains still have to interact with people like me who hasn't fucked up their brain.

I can't take talking to stoner idiots when I need to get something done.

My idiot cousin started smoking pot at 11 and my four year old son can run intellectual circles around him. Pot has made him so stupid that I can't believe he can actually put his pants on. He leaves his shoes untied and that is either because he's too lazy, or can't remember how to do it. The kid's brain is fried at 16 and he'll never make anything of himself.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 01:10 | 4044005 Seer
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"I can't take talking to stoner idiots when I need to get something done."

WTF are you?

"My idiot cousin started smoking pot at 11 and my four year old son can run intellectual circles around him."

Clearly you and your offspring are superior...

"He leaves his shoes untied and that is either because he's too lazy, or can't remember how to do it."

Lots of shit like this is going on, and it's not due to drugs...

BTW - BS on the fried brains shit.  Yeah, if one is under the "influence" then one is, well, under the influence and yes, one could expect them to not be "sharp" at that time.

BTW II - I don't promote drug use (I'm not a user, by personal choice).

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:24 | 4044329 GMadScientist
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There's a very dangerous ethical slope presented by the assumption that every individual's reaction to 'drugs' (for some definition of same) will be identical or even within a narrow range. Also, there is a very big functional difference between smoking pot when you're 11 (and still in what would have been the peak of your neuroplasticity) and occasionally getting high after you've finished brain development.

 

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:25 | 4044358 Oldwood
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Obama proves there are no ill effects from smoking pot. HE's a fucking genius, but it might have effected his golf game.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:25 | 4044366 GMadScientist
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Have a heart. He was exposed to drugs at a difficult time in his life and without that burden, he might have gone on to do something useful for society, but instead he ended up in politics.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:42 | 4044412 Oldwood
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 Anyone who thinks that drugs are not a serious problem for lots of us, they are in full denial. On the other hand I feel people should be absolutely free to do whatever they choose. Its just that our progressive friends believe that while people should have freedom to do as they please, society should be willing to subsidize this destructive behavior. I do not. We hear a lot about how business wants capitalism when things are going their way and socializm when not. That doesn't seem all that different when it comes to personal liberties. As Pelosi suggested about Obamacare, that it would enable people who would want to be musicians or artists to abandon their jobs and still have free healthcare. We should all be fucking stoned artists and see how far we get down the road to utopia.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:52 | 4044453 GMadScientist
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On subsidizing destructive behavior: I'd rather not 'enable' Blackwater (sorry, Xi...gotta switch brands fast when you fuck up bigtime).

Capitalism wants to get paid; it does not care by whom. State or consumer, makes no difference to Wal-Mart's board of directors.

On people being stoned artists: I'm pretty sure their aspirations are irrespective of the law (and your libertarian philosophy rests on that cornerstone, if you think about it).

I don't know about you, but a world that consisted of nothing but oil roughnecks, retail store managers, and Widget Stamp Technician III flunkies sounds like as much fun as spending eternity in an empty stripmall. Most of the music I enjoy was made by those stoned artists, so I guess I perceive a value that you cannot (one of the supposed benefits of capitalism, I hear).

 

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:09 | 4044533 Oldwood
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Absolutely. I'm not for subsidizing any of them. I just don't like the idea that they are protecting our freedoms when I think that is not their goal. As far as artists and musicians, I have no problem with any of them. Simply saying that we don't need government using your and my earnings to subsidize or otherwise encourage them. I'm for freedom of actions as long as there is accountability. Its not that tough, unless you see the bleeding heart as a means for collectivisation of power.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:59 | 4044484 GeezerGeek
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Perhaps it also explains his pathetice 2 for 22 basketball performance.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 01:20 | 4044014 Zero Point
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Shit man, if stoners are the only stupid fucks you know, you are truly blessed.

 

Oh.. And PS:

Your cousin fucked his brain with laws as they are NOW.

Stupid is as stupid does. I doubt reducing red tape will make stupid people stupider. Who knows though.

With the cost reduction, I'm willing to give her a try.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 01:19 | 4044017 Bollixed
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"The kid's brain is fried at 16 and he'll never make anything of himself."

Sounds to me like he could become President.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 05:41 | 4044157 malikai
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If you think smoking weed fries your brain, you needed to turn off your TV back in the 80s, because it (TV) has fried your brain.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:14 | 4044314 GMadScientist
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I'd run a baseline and rule out your genetics first.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:25 | 4044357 Random
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GTFO with your bullshit story on the fried 16 year old due to pot! I also call bullshit on your 4 year old being smarter than a 16 yo (even "fried" as you put it). A 4 year old cannot discern between good and bad/wrong yet he's somehow superior to a 16 yo...GTFO again, for good measure.

I am almost certain that all your info on weed is based on gov propaganda and that makes you a clinical retard since gov propaganda is such low level even your 4 year old kid could see through it.

As a conclusion, here's a heart-felt fuck you dambass! Btw, I'm not hating on you, just stating the obvious.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 10:12 | 4044917 Diogenes
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If you believe in freedom you must believe that people are responsible for their own actions. Unless they are children, too young to know the difference between right and wrong, or mentally deficient by nature or because of injury or disease, or incapacitated by alcohol or drugs. Yes in some cases laws take into account reduced capacity by reason of drugs or alcohol.

So if alcohol and drugs fuck you up mentally you DO NOT have the ability to chose wisely, you are in the position of a child or mental defective who needs to be protected.

Therefore legal controls on the sale and use of alcohol and drugs are fully justified.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:47 | 4044258 Oldwood
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But the world is SO dangerous now we MUST have a precrime legal system. It is no longer adequate to simply punish criminals we must indentify who are a potential threat. I was just rejected from jury duty on a DUI case becasue I told them I did not agree with the law and could not render a guilty verdict even if the government proved their case. As our president, THE person charged with the enforcement of our laws and protection of our constitution and freedoms contained within, has arbitrarily decided not, I choose the same. Jury duty is the one legal place to do so without fear of retribution (I hope).

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:18 | 4044330 Oldwood
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In thinking about this jury duty it becomes obvious to me that THEY are using our desire to appear fair and open minded against us. This has been going on for years now, where having a bias or predjudice is bad, wrong, evil and just plain ugly. The jury review system is done publically in front of dozens of other people and while they tell you to be completely honest they are asking you to do so before others, brought together to specifically be judgemental. Our society demands that we ignore all that we know in our hearts from living in this world. We are not to have any preconceived notions about anyone or thing other than the presumption that a white male is naturally evil. Our open mindedness is their way of always manipulating us to always give them the benefit of the doubt, regardless of how great those doubts are and in our courts of law they encourage us to enforce laws that many of us disagree with by appealing to these open minded, unbiased societal pressures.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:24 | 4044354 Abaco
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With all due respect you never should have told them you disagreed with the law. They don't have the right to know that. It is the jury's responsibility to judge both the law and the facts. That is also the law enshrined in many, if not most, state constitutions. Get on the jury and vote to acquit. Don't surrender to their bullshit.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:51 | 4044445 Oldwood
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Silly me still believes that while I disagree I should still be truthfull. It was all likely futile, no doubt, but I have to say the defendant and attorney gave me a really big smile as I was leaving. They may have still lost but I think it means something to know that people support you even if you lose. An innocent decision for this defendant will do nothing to prevent five more being arrested tomorrow and pulled through the corrupt and expensive proscess of defence. We hear constantly about how heathcare causes severe economic damage to people but what about the huge financial cost of the legal system. Even the defense attorney, while giving his resume to the potential jurors, told us how he was a prosecuter for years until he got married and needed money, then converting to defense. Far too many people's lifestyles are dependent upon the rampant corruption that has infiltrated almost every facet of life. I just want to say NO every chance I get. At this point it is all likely as useless as posting here.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:09 | 4044305 GMadScientist
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Drink at home, dumbfuck. You're an irresponsible asshole and I enjoy running weaving dipshits like you off the road.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:40 | 4043798 Thucydides
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Bailando con las estrellas. Si! America. No!

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:42 | 4043803 TaperProof
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Call us dumb and we'll bomb the shit out of you.  I mean we'll bring you freedom and democracy

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:53 | 4043829 CrimsonAvenger
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Hulk smash. Er, Hulk bring you freedom and democracy, sorry about the incidental smashing.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 02:40 | 4044077 giovanni_f
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Master of Hulk want Hulk bring democracy to Iran

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:19 | 4044333 GMadScientist
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Hulk sneak into nuclear facility as Bruce Banner.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:43 | 4043806 NoDebt
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Obama did us one really big favor.  He accelerated the decline and showed us what a worthless pile of currupt and worthless crap our nation could really be on it's worst day.  No bushes to hide behind, no pretense that there is some natural counter-balancing force at work to offset the dark side.  He has show us what we can truly be when boiled down to the absolute least common denominator.

Only thing left is to decide if we like ourselves like this.  I suspect we do.  Feel free to prove me wrong.

 

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:53 | 4044265 Oldwood
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The only thing that could make America exceptional is our founding fathers, constitution and selective history. We already know what each and every human on the planet is capable of and seen it through most of human's history. Our founding principles were our exceptional beginings and we have been doing the best we could to destroy and diminish them every since.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:47 | 4043814 ManWithaPlan
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Ya! More propaganda! That's what this is..propaganda..you know that right?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 00:02 | 4043936 Terminus C
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It's all propaganda, my friend...

Everything you read, hear or otherwise take in... If it was created by humans it is propaganda.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:56 | 4043837 thewhigs
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Regarding:

"2. More express concern over civil liberties (47%) than protection from terrorism (35%) for the first time in Pew Research Center polling."

Maybe the famous words of Benjamin Franklin is finally beginning to settle in:

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Franklin's Contributions to the Conference on February 17 (III) Fri, Feb 17, 1775
Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:01 | 4043844 buyingsterling
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A mixed bag - some good responses, some sad

10% of kids living with grandparents - Breaking Bad epidemic

52% want to legalize cannabis - Breaking Bong epidemic

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:50 | 4043913 ebworthen
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+1 for "Breaking Bong" epidemic.

Pot makes you hungry and want to sit on the couch or make love, not war.

Booze, Meth, and Central banks foster violent stupid shit that does nothing good for anyone.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:06 | 4044526 GeezerGeek
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If pot makes one hungry and want to sit on the couch, then pot usage sounds like a step on the pathway to obesity. As for the 'make love' part, no guy I knew ever needed pot to want to make love given the proper partner.

 

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 10:03 | 4044865 LongBallsShortBrains
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You never knew Barry from Kenya...er Hawaii ?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 01:21 | 4044021 Seer
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"10% of kids living with grandparents - Breaking Bad epidemic"

Do you realize what things are like for the majority of the 7+ billion on the planet?

My wife is from the Philippines.  Multi-generational living arrangements are pretty common.

And we have homeless... And the younger generation will never be able to afford today's homes.  How the fuck did people think that this was going to turn out?

From http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=110928

In 1950, the average square footage of a single family home was 1,000 square feet In 1960, the average square footage of a single family home was 1,200 square feet In 1970, the average square footage of a single family home was 1,500 square feet In 1980, the average square footage of a single family home was 1,595 square feet In 1990, the average square footage of a single family home was 1,905 square feet In 2000, the average square footage of a single family home was 2,265 square feet In 2001, the average square footage of a single family home was 2,330 square feet
Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:53 | 4044269 Oldwood
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So if I live in 6000 sf, am I "winning"?

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:04 | 4043853 Fake_nation
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At the end of all the heated rhetoric and visions of apocalypse, we will just be left with ourselves, and who we really are. 

http://www.fakenation.info/please/government-shutdown-not-with-a-bang-but-with-a-whimper

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 01:26 | 4044027 Seer
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Lots of history to inform us that things often get pretty ugly....  Your use of the word "rhetoric" suggests you don't believe in history?

BTW - I totally ignore the "shutdown" stuff.  The REAL issue is the "health" of the USD, specifically, it's ability to continue to be the worlds' reserve currency.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:14 | 4043870 q99x2
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Everyone in the World knows that the Washington D.C, has been taken over by a criminal cartel and that they are the ones creating war crimes and terrorism around the world.

It is now obvious and the exceptional ones care not to hide it at this point. They don't give a fuck what the world thinks because they are above the law.

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:17 | 4043873 DOGGONE
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"Exceptionalism" will be showing this to the people:
The Public Be Suckered
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1223928

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:30 | 4043890 0b1knob
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3% of people still use dial up modem.

WTF does that have to do with ANYTHING?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:17 | 4044542 GeezerGeek
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Are any ZH posters in the 1% that does not know if they use the internet? 

Thu, 10/10/2013 - 23:46 | 4043912 ebworthen
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Legal pot, sound money, rule of law, and career employment.

This is not rocket science folks - but when it's a delusional Ponzi the moon is made of cheese.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 00:20 | 4043958 IridiumRebel
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I'm a recovering drug addict and even I believe that pot should be legal. Tax it the hell outta it too.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:57 | 4044272 Oldwood
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Exactly their plan. First learn to sit and stay, then learn to attack on command and receive a treat!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:21 | 4044341 GMadScientist
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The only thing I'm recovering from is last night, but I agree.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:29 | 4044374 Abaco
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Why tax it?  Why the hell would you want to give more money to government?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:11 | 4044549 GeezerGeek
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Ask Colorado.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:59 | 4044481 Random
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You cannot tax the shit out of weed as you can grow it yourself, THIS is the reason it is illegal. Also, technically weed is not illegal to grow but it has a HUGE fee attached to the permit/license to grow it. If weed would be legal (as it should be and without the crippling taxes attached) only the most lazy would buy it instead of growing their own thus close to 0 revenue for the gov (instead of the huge profits made in the anti-weed war, on both ends).

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:15 | 4044574 Oldwood
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Every action that comes from our government is about control and money....mostly money.  For those yearning for a drag off the pipe, they will likely agree to any tax for the pleasure. As planned, just like booze and tabacco. How much are the taxes on a pack of cigs? We need it....but no, we are not addicted.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 10:18 | 4044960 Diogenes
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"You cannot tax the shit out of weed as you can grow it yourself, THIS is the reason it is illegal. Also, technically weed is not illegal to grow but it has a HUGE fee attached to the permit/license to grow it. If weed would be legal (as it should be and without the crippling taxes attached) only the most lazy would buy it instead of growing their own thus close to 0 revenue for the gov (instead of the huge profits made in the anti-weed war, on both ends)."

You can grow your own tobacco too but how many smokers bother? Do you know how much tax is on tobacco?

Not to mention brewing your own beer and making your own wine. You can make wine for $5 a bottle that compares to $15 or $20 and has no additives. There are wine stores all over the place to make it easy and fool proof. How many people bother to do it?

If pot were legal maybe 1 out of 100 would grow their own, the other 99% would buy it no matter how much it cost. Just like today.

 

 

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 11:35 | 4045233 Adahy
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Lazy tax.  Most are too busy watching the idiot-box or socially-networking pointless aspects of their lives.
Me?  Got some muscadine wine chilling under the house with the veggies from harvest, tobacco curing in the shed, and.....
well anyways....all tax-free (except for the property tax of course).

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 10:10 | 4044902 LongBallsShortBrains
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I always shake my head at the people who want liberty restored, and wish to add a tax to restore it.

THAT is the kind of thinking that got us here!

We ( the gov) take your right to grow, use, and trade aplant and it's fruit away from you.

When you want your rights back, we charge you some of your labor.

How can anybody be so fucking blind?????

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 00:10 | 4043944 jack stephan
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The us is still exceptional, I don't care what anyone says. Some Americans are Jedis, no one will convince me otherwise by cheapening temporary bs.

Even during bad times were still better than most best times. You guys need a shot in the arm.

Malcolm Scott carpenter passed, god speed zh.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 00:25 | 4043963 AON
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Typical of people who think they are exceptional.  They don't care what anyone says.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:57 | 4044276 Oldwood
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Our leaders are ALL exceptional. They and the press told us so!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:15 | 4044561 GeezerGeek
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Exceptional liars? I'll give them that.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:20 | 4044593 Oldwood
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Yes, liars, but good liars given they seem to be getting their way. While we can opretty much predict their actions, the sad part is that our actions are absolutely predictable as we have never ended up here otherwise. They have spent many years and many dollars to be able to anticipate our every move. We on the, on the other hand, see and learn largely what they want us to.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 10:12 | 4044927 LongBallsShortBrains
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More truthful to refer to our leaders as RULERS.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 00:36 | 4043974 adr
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I'm pretty sure the American Jedi's are like the ones at the end of Episode 3. Unaware that they are about to get wiped out by the Sith.

Put a black cloak on Yellen and she could pass for Palpatine. I bet she even sounds like him too.

"Ahh my young Americans it is you who will find you are mistaken by a great many things."

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:16 | 4044327 HardAssets
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"The us is still exceptional, I don't care what anyone says. Some Americans are Jedis, no one will convince me otherwise by cheapening temporary bs.

Even during bad times were still better than most best times. You guys need a shot in the arm.

Malcolm Scott carpenter passed, god speed zh."

 

I might agree with some of what you said, if I knew what the hell you meant. What exactly do you mean by 'exceptional' ? What is meant by the reference to fake characters in a sci-fi movie ?  And the phrase "cheapening temporary bs" is a mystery.

Many Americans are extremely ignorant of their history, the nation's founding principles, or the application of basic logic and clear written expression. T.V. and the 'exceptional' public school system have contributed greatly to making them that way.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 00:16 | 4043954 rlouis
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#6 - 15% of Americans do not use internet or email: 33% usability 34% relevance 19% price ... other, etc.

ummmm... let's see: age less than 9 or greater than 92 or maybe part of the prison gulag.

Not sure if that's exceptional or to be expected.

 

 

 

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 00:32 | 4043970 adr
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God, I'd have so much money if I decided to live in my parents basement for the past 14 years instead of live on my own. Especially the last six where I was making $65k a year. Why did I buy a house for me and my pregnant wife. Should have just said, "Hey Mom, you get to have your grandson living with you."

Hell, I'd have saved so much cash, I could have paid cash for a house right now. No mortgage, no payments. Damn that would be sweet. Besides there isn't any social stigma of being 30 and living with mom and dad anymore.

Of course I didn't do that. When I landed my first job out of college my dad said good luck son, and turned my room into an office. So an average of $800 a month went to rent and another $200 to utilities, hundreds for food. The cost of life.

So many millenials don't even know what that is like. Figuring they can just live with mom and dad so they can afford a Subaru STI and a 65" TV to rock their XBOX. Complain on Facebook that dad told him to turn down his music at 2am like he was a child.

How sad is it that we have reached this reality for many people. What a joke life in America has become. As much of a joke as $1000 travel booking stocks.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 06:23 | 4044177 negative rates
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I think I rather have kids just to put a load on them, maybe throwdown my double root canel on um before their age of reason. Then i'll kick um out the back door at 4, lock it and do some lines and watch some soaps. Yea, that's the plan.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:22 | 4044346 GMadScientist
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Okay, but don't complain to me about your stretchmarks, honey!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 08:33 | 4044390 Abaco
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The reason so many immigrants, for instance vietnamese refugees, have done so well is because they don't buy into the bull shit propaganda and could give a shit about social stigma.  They live in multi-generational homes where everyone works and capital is accumulated. It enables them to build and buy businesses. I'd be happy to have my kids stay at home longer if they put the money away so they could buy a house free and clear or build a business and not to buy a more expensive car or a bigger flat screen.  

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 09:25 | 4044631 Oldwood
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Generally I think immigrants are going Galt. It is always the subsequent generations that take it all for granted and piss it away. America is still th eleast stinking shirt and these immigrants see what opportunities that are left. There are many Americans who ss it to but there are many more that can only see what has been lost.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 01:14 | 4044008 socalbeach
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disturbing fact #11:

28% of Americans think news organizations focus on important stories.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 07:52 | 4044266 Chaos_Theory
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What, you don't think its important to spend time reporting on Kim Kardassian's baby?  Think about the septic tank posing as a va-jay-jay that poor child had to escape!  And what about this Miley Skankus character?  You think your daughter can get proper education on her role in life as a cum bucket for the lords without her help? 

Take all that away and you're left with BBC!  All they have are fawning millions crying about Prince Georgie.

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