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Fact Or Fiction: Obama Administration Proposes 2,300-Page "New Constitution"
Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog,
The U.S. Constitution leaves too many areas open to interpretation; a New Constituion of 2,300 pages (+ 200 redacted secret pages) is the solution.
The Obama Administration has proposed replacing the current U.S. Constitution (4,543 words, including the signatures with a 2,300-page "new Constitution" that in the words of an administration spokesperson, "clears up the gray areas in the current Constitution."
The proposal was launched after the success of two recent 1,000+ page pieces of legislation, the Affordable Care Act and the Dodd-Frank financial reform act.
An additional 200+ pages of the "new Constitution" are redacted due to the sensitive nature of the National Security-related amendments.
Lobbyists from key industries were invited to contribute amendments to the new Constitution;" constitutional legal experts were also invited to submit improvements to the current law of the land.
Some critics who have reviewed the 2,300 pages of the proposed "new Constitution" have stated that the document is impenetrable even to those with law degrees. Average citizens "will be unable to understand the laws that govern their lives."
Other observers note that the complexity and length of legislation such as the Affordable Care Act and the Dodd-Frank financial reform act are already beyond the comprehension of all but a handful of experts.
An administration spokesperson defended the proposed re-write on the grounds that "the new Constitution will provide the clarity that people want in their Constitution."
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Fiction for now, fact after the next false-flag/economic collapse.
Here's my amendment : every single year, the country votes to put 10 congressmen/women and 5 senators in a cage deathmatch. 5/10 enters, one leaves.
Why not write a new constitution? Obama wrote a new birth certificate for himself.
Why not indeed. It's not like they give a fuck what's written in it. I mean, it's not like dictatorships give a fuck. See : Soviet Union, Mao China, North Korea... they promise you all sorts of good stuff... but of course it's all lies.
Barack Hussein Obama - "Constitution was flawed and reflects a fundamental flaw that continues to this day"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4
All constitutions are flawed.
Let's dissolve the US instead. No flaws then.
In 2300 pages, one could redefine an entire language. FFS, I thought newspeak was suppose to consolidate language, and eliminate superfuous words.
This reminds me of how in Medieval Europe, a common practice of the monarchs was to have the official language that the laws were written in be different from the one spoken. In some cases it was latin, I think in England for a while they even used French.
Looks like our overseers are trying to roll us back to how things were before the industrial revolution, or perhaps even back to before the plague.
Spoken like the true narcissistic con man. Imagine the nerve or ego involved with this belief.
I'm ready to got to the internment camps over this one.
I'd be willing to bet that it's already written and waiting, just like the "Patriot" Act.
Dammit. Duplicate post.
Sandard operating procedure ... Like 9/11....... U have the patriot act penned and ready to go and just wait for the planes to hit...The New Constitution is waiting for its trigger to be fired as well...
Obama is the flaw.
Lack of term limits, lack of campaign finance reform, and the lack of prosecution against members of the political class except in the rarest of circumstances, are the actual problems.
Obammer is just another empty suit spewing feces at the doll-eyed masses through a teleprompter.
True, but even a piece of shit like Clinton (Bill, not Hillary) has some soft spot in his heart for America (even if only because it produces chicks like Gennifer Flowers). But Obama HATES you, he HATES your way of life down to the last detail, and he HATES every shred of our history that conforms in the slightest degree to the constitution.
This has to be the absolute tops of out and out arrogancy and stupidity. This country is to be an independent country with the puttzes in D.C. and of course our brilliant O'blah blah who in reality is nothing more than a two bit, third rate street punk doing the heavy lifting for all us peons.
I would love to cacth this scrawny necked turd out in a farmers barnyard.
It is time we start the weeding out of airballs like him and the rest of the cretains roaming the streets of D.C. and manhatten begin in earnest.
Basta es basta!!! Milestones
Constitution? We don't need no stinkin' Constitution!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ
Or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lj056ao6GE
who needs a new constitution when the old one has been torn up, defecated upon, set aflame and flushed
We have to have a new one so we can see what's in it.......
No, we have to have a new one so we CAN'T see what's in it.
Fixed it
Nice try, but the whole "fixed it" thing is overdone, and his post was better than yours anyway. How about not fixing something that doesn't need to be fixed.
+1 agreed. If I never saw 'fixed it' again it would be too soon. It is now on par with 'been there done that' and 'not'. As long as I am at it... making up alternative 'funny??' ways to spell Obama is also very tired. Who gives a shit? We have real problems, making fun of that assholes name is not solving them.
Thanks, and agree with you. Besides, we can't see a genuine birth certificate to confirm his real name anyway.
while we're at it ... can we dispense with the 'birth certificate' issue. it's his social security i'm interested in.
We could dispense with it if he would put it to rest by providing one. That would be super duper.
He produced the 'document' that hundreds of document experts (and an extensive criminal investigation in Phoenix) concluded is pure, childlike fraud. Then three days later we 'killed Bin Laden', pernamently changing the subject. Kind of like 9.11 happening the day after Rumsfeld admitted that the pentagon couldn't account for $2 trillion in tax money (back when a $trillion was real money). You literally have to be mentally retarded to not see through this shit.
I'm most interested in his university transcripts-particularly who paid for his tuition and fees. I'm guessing some three letter agency (say CIA) was involved.
"We have real problems, making fun of that assholes name is not solving them."
Yeah? Really? You must be joking. IF YOU ARE SO DELUDED TO BELIEVE IN ANY SOLUTION FROM ANY POLITICIANS...you will just be sadly disappointed.
I will call the Sodomite in Chief ANY DAMNED THING THAT I WANT!!! Take yoiur Politically Correct BULLSHIT and put it where the Sun does not Shine.
I will DO as I damned well please, Socialist. Where do you stop intruding? If you do not like what you are reading then you have the option NOT TO READ IT. Isn't FREEDOM a wonderful thing?
Go ahead a give your disapproval as I might have hurt your Feeeeeeelings...Awwwwwwwwww. I do not give a damn!!!
edit war... yen standing down:
Constitution as written, amended by Jefferson: THAT IS OUR LAW.
It's a fictional work. The real Constitution/Bill of Rights have already been supplanted by the "2nd set of books" that Tom Ball alluded to:
http://www.sentinelsource.com/news/local/last-statement-sent-to-sentinel...
While his last statement had to do with family courts, I would like to see if ANYONE can find a case where "Common Law", such as the Constitution/Bill of Rights DOESN'T have corresponding "rules from the other set of books" that allows the system to trample them?
The nightmare of the Second Set of Books goes away when the funding dries up.
I hope so. But I also worry that the second set of books will become even more about revenue-spinning than they are already. Make sure you lost all your assets in a boating accident and try to avoid those privatized Alabama prisons where they starve people who can't afford crap from the overpriced vending machine. If prisons like that become entrenched in the Second Set of Books, then the Second Set of Books will only go away when the stormtroopers have to wonder, each morning, whether it will be the last time they see their families.
@ Jlee2027:
The nightmare of the 2nd set of books could also go the other way...and get a whole lot worse, once the funding dries up...
Interesting read. Not sure how the guy could advocate change through setting fire to police stations and court houses, then later talk about the virtues of the ballot box.
considering the fact that he was so distraught that HE SET HIMSELF ON FIRE, i'm willing to give him a pass.
The second set of books is all voluntary. Sure they try to coerce you through fear, but it is in the end voluntary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwg
An if you think that is bullshit, then I challenge you to find that law that compels anyone to pay. The entire system is voluntary.
It is all contracts and estate law. If you don't agree to the terms of the contract then let them know and do not consent.
it is technically voluntary.
the reason that you have to pay your taxes is that when you are hired YOU SIGN A CONTRACT THAT STATES YOU WILL PAY TAXES.
they get in with the Uniform Commercial Code. not the Constitution.
why do you need a driver's license if you are not engaging in commerce? YOU DON'T. but people don't know that so they sign up.
The one he appears to be operating under is short and Springeresque:
'You don't know me... I do what I want! And, if you don't agree with me, you be RAYCISS!'
In fact why even rewrite the constitution, let's just adopt the Koran as our new constitution, I'm
sure that would make Obama and his people happy.
P.S. The 72 virgins part would be a good selling point to the sheeple.
that's just another mistranslation. it's actually just two seventy year old virgins.
PS- EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
What kind of moron would choose a virgin over a slutty whore anyway? This is why religion is so very lame. It has no corrrespondence to reality!
You say you want a new constitution?
Well, you know
We all want hope and change in our world
You tell me that it's evilution
Well you know
They all want to rule the world
But when you talk about compulsion
Don't you know that you can count.me.out.
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
All right, all right
They only need on page and it says:
You are the idiocracy, we rule the idiocracy, and as such, you, the idiocracy, have no rights.
1-800-FUCKYO was even more succinct.
Nobody has any rights.
They are made-up things used for control.
Democracy is not for the ignorant, weak or lazy.
And freedom is not obtained by any document, but by the sweat, blood, toil and tears of a united people, and by their guns, skills and resolve.
The Constitution is the Document that gets written, enshrined and hopefully observed after it has been earned.
Get it straight. Keep it straight.
K out.
we don't have democracy. we never did.
we had a democratic REPUBLIC.
democracy is the tyranny of the majority.
The birth certificate again?
If Ron Paul was quarter Black, quarter Jewish, quarter Iranian and quarter Chinese, I'd still vote for him. I'd vote for him if he was an illegal immigrant straight out of Mexico. What matters is the man and not what the label says.
If Obama was as white as a snowflake and a decendent of Abraham Lincoln himself, it wouldn't matter one bit. He'd not be any less of a banker puppet scumbag.
Bush's birth certificate was legit. Did that help?
You're missing the point. It's one thing to have a shitty president, it's quite another to have a shitty ILLEGAL president. Who may in fact be an agent of a foreign power.
"it's quite another to have a shitty ILLEGAL president."
Bush took office twice through corruption; his presidency was not legal. Clinton may have taken office legally--because the flagrantly flawed electoral college enabled it--with less than 40% of the popular vote. So the banksters get their guy, regardless. And who will be next? Obama's birth certificate at this point is a non-issue; even if it were somehow exposed that he was not born in Hawaii, he's already in the box and going nowhere for three more years.
A country with two testicles to rub together would incarcerate Obama for life and negate every piece of legislation he signed and every order he issued.
If you ever had ANY doubt that the USSA has become a banana republic this had aught to clarify it..............
I don't think Abraham Lincoln is gonna be a good selling point around here. He was a tyrant who undermined the original intent of the constitution as envision by our founders. A voluntary union. Fuck him, Ron Paul deserves better.
Several years ago I believed that anyone who thought that the fake birth certificate allegation was factual was a fool. I no longer think that.
I wouldn't put it past the slimy bastard...........
"We the assholes of the United Fascist States (sponsored by Brawndo), in order to fuck up a once perfect union, pervert justice, disturb domestic tranquility, provide for a shit-ton of war toys, promote laziness through handouts, and steal shit from people we don't like to redistribute to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this muthafuckin' Constitution for the muthafuckin' United Fascist States of Amerika. Bitchez."
Sent from my ObamaPhone
This shit never ends! Aight, where did I leave my thermal detonator?
Why can't we feed the winner to ants?
Awesome! LMFAO
If we are on the brink of a collapse of the financial system and the Republican party may lose big in the 2014 elections, essentially leaving the Democarts to take over both houses wouldn't that pretty much leave one party to control one government?
Now a new constitution.........
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
One party already does control the government... and has for quite some time.
Put it on PPV and you've got the deficit handled!
I am going to need to add on a vomitorium to my study..........
This better be onion or I'm going postal.
It's forreals this time.
Just Charles Hugh-Smith twerkin it...lol.
so gross
lol...its just the ink smearing...the papers still intact, there's Hope! ;-)
Tell Charles to quit fuckin' with me.
Its covered under the fascist ObamaCare Individual Mandate...a completely frrreeeee! mindfuck...lol.
Well, as long as it's freeee, I'll take two mindfucks.
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Courtesy of the OfTwoMindfucks blog.
Seriously sucker-punched by the headline and thought I was clicking into an Onion thing. So just who, exactly, is asking pretty please to have a new Constitution that they can understand better? Give me a fucking break!
And what really pisses me off is that if this is true, I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL!
I was a real hot-head in my youth. When I became an adult I got a handle on that bad way of thinking/reacting. Now I'm getting old and seriously pissed off again. Too often. To drink or not to drink. . .
drink.
or pray.
or drink AND pray. that's what i do.
Constitution for Dummies.
That would be hard since a lot of folks don't know how to read... and they vote!
+1
I do declare. Damn straight. Well said.
When you make a quote that leads off a sentence or paragraph in script, it needs to be in quotes or it will not register and no one can vote for you up or down. Found out the way you are being advised now.
Live and learn can be a bit of a bitch sometimes.. Milestones
Control through complexity.
Make the rules, win the game.
A lawyer can obfuscate a mother's hug (one worth his salt, anyway).
Call Saul.
yes, the more complexity, the more easy to vary the interpretations. True power.
"we , the lawyers, of these international regions
of resource and cheap labor do here by ...."
.
"Lawyers in Love" by Jackson Browne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEULVyg1O_8
Wait wait!!! I have a few things that I would like to add!
ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.
ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc., but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.
ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.
ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public health care.
ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.
ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.
ARTICLE IX: You don't have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.
ARTICLE X: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness -- which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an overabundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused about what the original Bill of Rights mean.
Why you ruining my buzz, dude?
The problem with is not with what's there, but with what's missing:
Denial of Welfare for the rich: special tax breaks and far lower tax rates for being idle rich ("inventor"), privatization of profits and nationalization of losses for the biggest and strongest. Or the two-tier justice system. Etc, etc.
As it stands, your list is totally one-sided and you come across as either a shill for the 1%, or a postet boy for the Stockholm Syndrome.
"Denial of Welfare for the rich: special tax breaks..."
I get what you are saying and these fuckers are milking the system and us all for what they can. But the charade and fraud is based on keeping the FSA thinking wait there's MOAR to steal plus if I fuck up there are no consequences and it's of course not my fucking fault! If only we can suck more from those rich fuckers (which is the people that work and do something productive or own a business - not the large corporates).
By eliminating the safety net and all the other bullshit the conseqences get clearer and perhaps folks would be more focused on what is actually going on.
You're putting the cart ahead of the horse. Do you think 75 year old women really want to vote for politicians that want to teach their 5 year old grandkids about anal sex? Same thing goes for corporate welfare. Pay off the voters with entitlements and the government can do whatever it wants whenever it wants.
DEnial of welfare for the rich and poor is already in the constitution. Whatever is not explicitly granted to the feds is reserved for the states or the people. There is no provision granting the feds the power to take from one to give to another. Documents will solve nothing. The current consitution is fine. What is lacking is the will of the people to abide by it and insist that governmetns do as well.
LOL!!!...next a re-write of the Bill of Rights perhaps and what preceded that, the Declaration of Independence.
Molon labe, boooie.
"When in the course of creating the Free Shit Army, it becomes necessary to eliminate those who disagree........."
They prefer addiction to outright force, then the slow slide out of their sight, just a ripple not a wave, upsetting things important to them...I see desperation in all this.
Its comforting for me to see they are using force, now everyone can see what I see ;-)
Yours and a lot of other sane posts here tonight are catching downvotes. I'm surprised that whoever is doing it can distract themselves from tossing Obama's salad for long enough to look at the computer screen.
"Other observers note that the complexity and length of legislation such as the Affordable Care Act and the Dodd-Frank financial reform act are already beyond the comprehension of all but a handful of experts."
Not "beyond the comprehension" but purposefully open to interpretation.as the elite see fit.
As with those, some are exempted; others face no enforcement; it means what TPTB want it to mean; and as always, some animals are more equal than others. Sound fair to you?
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus
Translation: The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government.
Can't we just go back to the articles of confederation (which specifically left us with an almost non-existent central government)?
Written by Lobbyists, Lawyers and the Criminal Elite. Welcome to the new dark ages where only the "Learned" know the law, receive proper educations, and bask in the glorious tribute received of the heathen...........
Three immediate thoughts:
This should have been presented on April 1. It is a perfect fool's joke.
A new Constitution, regardless of size or complexity, would be worthless. We don't even pay attention to the one that already exists.
Such a document would begin with "We the Anointed" rether than "We the People".
I'm sure such a thing is already written, just waiting for the next event done by evil cave-dwelling terrists.
betcha they would move the capitol to Tel Aviv
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Secret courts, secret evidence, secret witnesses and secret trials.
This would be funnier if it wasn't already our reality.
Ya ....well...................Tick Tock........ Slime.
We the people have full Clarity already.
again .....Tick Tock.
I see what Chuck did.
Creative way of describing how the constitution has already been circumvented.
It's such a shame what this country has come to. The word "embarrassing" doesn't even describe it. The sad thing is, is that most Americans don't even know how awesome America used to be. I mean not too long ago (100 years) we didn't even have an income tax. No American alive has ever experienced not having an income tax, it has simply become a way of life.
I really hope we default. Not because I want to see pain and suffering but because it's the medicine we need. I don't know many people who are truly proud to be American today and if you pay attention to the faces of people in day-to-day life you will see what a sad state our way of life has become; miserable.
So this is going to be longer than the constitutions of both Egypt and Alabama combined?
They just have EU Constitution envy.
...they call alabama the crimson tide, call me deacon blues...
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/master_file/newstatescon...
Better known as The Safeguard American Freedom Act.
Celebrity Deathmatch Bill Clinton vs Kenneth Starr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPBZtIYRsJc
take a look at this and be afraid http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GECON-02-101013.html
The karma wheel turns back eventually.
Starr, Starr, Starr...
<--Obama believes in the Constitution
<--Obama believes in Shariah Law
-------------Honesty Poll--------------
<------ corporate whore and all around dipshit
I think he actually believes in the Sumerian Talmud.
Seems like a better fit to empirical data.
I would vote Shariah but we know he has sucked cock. The nice thing about the constitution is that cock sucking is your own business.
I'm just gonna have to say, "what is the constitution alex".
LOL, great answer.
Just wow. They are actually looking to overthrow the Constitution.
Pardon me tenshin but just who are 'they'?
'they' are those who wish to violate my right to do as I wish as long as I am not harming anyone else.
Since you can't follow the original one, "We the People" will not follow a re-write. Though I find humor in many things these DC knuckelheads do, this would be disasterous. Please don't feed the idiots(ideas, that is)
Washington D.C. doesn't use the one they have. All they want is more.
Is this that Progressive "Constitution for 2020" rewrite that occurred at Yale in 2005, sponsored by Soros and spearheaded by Cass Sunstein?
Would it surprise anyone?
Link to a source of this story?
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Right at the top:
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogoct13/constitution-parody10-13.html
IF this is true, there should be a full blown US revolution the minute this story is verified as being legitimate. If the Oath Keepers are as keen on keeping their "oaths" as stated, lead the way on this one....
Shakespeare wrote: kill all the lawyers. In his time, only the King had lawyers who were tax collectors for the King, his overspending, and war whenever he chose, regardless of who suffered at home and abroad.
You know where I'm going with this.
Fuck off to the 'new constitution'.
"...the document is impenetrable even to those with law degrees. Average citizens "will be unable to understand the laws that govern their lives," says the ZH report. (Cheers, guys. Well done.)
The original Constitution is easily understood by most people, rich and poor. That is the basis of a working, fair minded society - unlike all the legalese and powerbroking beloved by many foreign lands who want to turn the USA into a version of the places they fled.
NO.
It's no surprise that Laura Bush last week described the Clintons as 'family'. Bush/Clintons/Blair/Brown/Mandelson et al are corporatists, kleptocrats, enemies of the majority, and playing games with propaganda just to get votes so their personal Party exalts in its status, and ill-deserved riches.
F'em.
'and there haven't been this many lawyers since robspierre killed half of france ...'
'amour mama, not cheap display'
Let's try it with *no* constitution ... shit-can the whole mess. I'll take anarchy for 1000 Alex.
Negotiate with your neighbor before damning him, and leaving yourself exposed to the money powers. Their game of divide and rule existed long before you discovered the concept 'anarchist'. The Constitution was written by wordly wise men who had seen the money power ruin the old world, and vowed to give this Republic some protection against falling into the same trap.
It takes gov't absolute power to enable "money powers" to operate as they do. The Constitution was a nice try, but it had creeps like Hamilton influencing the works from the get-go. I would contemplate a Constitution rewrite.
The original Constitution and Bill of Rights is the best we've got, standing between us and tyranny. We can quibble about some of the original actors, but you lose most if you give way to modern career politicians, their lobbyists, their lawyers, and their hateful MIC.
It was tyranny the second it was imposed without allowing those who didn't agree to opt out. If you and *your* neighbors want to abdicate, to some ruling elite, your freedoms and live under the illusion of security in your own slice of the world, by all means knock yourselves out. Leave me out of it.
I do hope you are writing from somewhere outside the USA, so you can live fully with your declaration. G'luck. Each to their own...when they pay fully for it, and live with it 24/7.
Where I live is irrelevant. Do you believe that the 1776 Declaration of Independence was a valid action? Do you believe that sometimes, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for a people to dissolve the bands that have connected them with another? Do you not agree that we *individually* have the unalienable right to self-governance and free association or is it only at some minimum population size that becomes valid in your philosophy?
Student i_fly_me,
Good luck with your ego. Best leave society to pursue common interest, for the people, by the people, of the people.
Your preferred solitude is guaranteed by others who think above mere self. Be grateful.
It has nothing to do with ego and I am not talking about leaving society. Your myopic love for the USA is blinding you to the obvious faults in its foundation as well as to better alternatives. The age of serfs serving superpowers must end my friend. Let it go.
" JUST TAKE THE FREAKIN' CAPS OUT " !!!!
"The original Constitution and Bill of Rights is the best we've got, standing between us and tyranny."
The trouble now is that the tyrants use that document as a method of oppression, quite contrary to its purpose. With opaque governance they wave the Constitution at us and say, "You're free--it says so right here! (Now pay your war taxes, serfs)."
I'll have what he's havin'
Only over my dead body
Over their dead bodies if they want to impose the tyranny implicit in their 'new constitution', and its redacting their spy force's words and intentions, much like the Nazis, now re-branded as 'globalists', and the EUSSR.
Obama, Democrats, Chief Justice Roberts act like constitution is worthless document that does not deter them from their "ends justify the means" governance.
Bush dismissed that 'g-damned piece of paper.' Making way for O'bomba's contempt for the Constitution, and Bill of Rights. They are in a personal Party, and you are not invited. F'em.
I agree the Patriot Act was huge, but they re-approved under Obama. Once the center acquires power, the power is never returned.