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Now Republicans Can't Even Agree On How The Obama Meeting Went

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Of course, equity markets can only hear one thing (for fear of the consideration of Plan B) but as The Washington Post notes, the Senate Republicans can't agree on how their meeting with Obama went.

  • Good - Sen. Bon Corker: "I was pleasantly surprised, I think there's a gelling that's beginning to take place."
  • Bad - Sen. Susan Collins: "I don't want to give the impress that he endorsed it, but he indicated there were 'elements' with which he agreed."
  • Ugly - Sen John Cornyn: "...what could have been a productive conversation was instead another predictable lecture from the President that did not lay out a new path forward."

Summing it all up (and mixing metaphors) - it's a Goldilocks meeting for stocks.


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Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:53 | 4046075 One And Only
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Octagon. Last man standing decides. I

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:59 | 4046089 Pinto Currency
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A person could almost think barry wants a crisis to then declare an emergency to impose his own will.

hail barry.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:59 | 4046097 McMolotov
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"Hail Barry, full of shit..."

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:59 | 4046100 12ToothAssassin
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Even the Hegelian dialectic is dialectic. How meta.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 16:00 | 4046282 Arius
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i remember one journalist summing up a briefing Tony Blair had with 4 journalist ... he was supposed to tell them smt important.  The guy said he talked for about half an hour and we did not know what he said ... exactly!

now place your bets ... suckers...

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:00 | 4046112 cougar_w
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I was saying at the runup to the last election cycle that there was a measurable probability that whoever gets elected is the last elected president of the United States of America.

So yeah, it's out there. If this really is the end-game on a global scale then you are getting a dictator and there are no two ways about it, son.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:07 | 4046138 TeamDepends
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He likes to tate dic alright.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:23 | 4046188 Sweet Chicken
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Haha well done! +1

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:11 | 4046151 max2205
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It went like this:


You crackers better give me e everything or I cut snap....and then watch'em come after you

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:14 | 4046160 BandGap
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I'm thinking the same shit three days ago, at the darkest hour. Thinking "watch them work a deal", then saying to myself "no, they could offer their souls at this point but this shit is going down". At this point I just ignore the news. I think we will not have a deal when the time comes.

The limit will be breached. News today is that a 30 day window exists where people wouldn't lose faith if we hit the debt limit and were constrained for 30 days. Saw it in print.  The FDIC insures money market funds they said. Is that a real pancho or a Sears pancho? No foolin'.

HS football, beer, college football, beer, rifle range when the head clears.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:01 | 4046104 Millivanilli
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John Boner, after a good mucousy weep with his head on the lap of Obama- I hear he digs that, offered to fast track and increase funding for obamacare.


How is everyone enjoying this made for teevee soap opera?  


Just wait until the muppets find out they have to spend at least 3600 dollars a year on health care with a 6k dollar deductable. 


Nice and affordable...

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:27 | 4046192 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  at least 3600 dollars a year on health care with a 6k dollar deductable

That's what I'm paying now at my TBTF bank, but I've got a 10k deductable.  What's the problem?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:43 | 4046246 Millivanilli
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That isn't health care it is a gift to insurance companies.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:50 | 4046264 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  That isn't health care it is a gift to insurance companies.

It covers catastrophic events.   That's all I need.

Besides, Obama care was written by an Insurance Lobbiest.   But, look at OldFartMedicare, that's nothing but a scam for the insurance companies and doctors too.

The US has been one big scam for (at least) 150 years.    If you're in on the scams, life is good.  If not...   Well,  just life.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:26 | 4046194 WarHorse
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It's TEA VEE not teevee

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 17:21 | 4046509 Urban Redneck
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If the Retards were smart and actually wanted to stop Obamacare, instead of playing games they should have pushed ahead forward and insisted that that the carve out (so far only a 1yr delay) for big business was REVOKED - because THEY want push back against unfair advantages being granted to big business and big donors... Shift the conversation to administration corruption and let the deep pockets with offshore dollars push their bitch to back off his baby.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:57 | 4046076 Call me Ishmael
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Tyler, why do guys like you and I know what a duvet is?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:17 | 4046165 Jumbotron
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As I said a couple of days ago.......shit gets real Monday if there is no deal.

Wall Street will see to that.....not to mention Maria Bartaromo going hysterical.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:59 | 4046077 lolmao500
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Where are these people's relatives to force sense into them?? I mean, if any of these fucks were my uncles or father or whatever, I would tell them to stop their bullshit and stop acting like pussies.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:05 | 4046136 JLee2027
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One million green up arrows.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:20 | 4046169 Al Huxley
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Bad news - if there's no deal, I think it's in the president's mandate to just basically seize control - bye bye to even the current facade of elected representation and welcome to full-on empire.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:30 | 4046199 NoDebt
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Agreed.  First thing will be overriding the debt ceiling based on an EO or "Emergency Powers."

Supreme Court will stand pat since nobody will even bring a lawsuit.

Reading history, I used to marvel that societies would be so stupid as to allow ruthless dictators to take over their country to everyone's detriment.  Now I understand.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:19 | 4046175 NOTaREALmerican
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Re: I mean, if any of these fucks were my uncles or father or whatever, I would tell them to stop their bullshit and stop acting like pussies.

You actually think the families of the political class isn't in on all the Big-Gov scams?  You think family connections mean nothing?   You think politicians are there for anything other than getting lots of "Keynesian" loot for the buddies and families?

Jesus F Christ...   

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:32 | 4046205 earnyermoney
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Fri, 10/11/2013 - 17:06 | 4046459 HardAssets
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Be gentle on him. Some havent fully weaned themselves off of listening to Limbaugh or watching Fox either. Many hardcore conservatives haven't quite figured out the false 'dem vs repub' illusion and screw job yet.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 17:01 | 4046432 HardAssets
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Where are these people's relatives to force sense into them?? I mean, if any of these fucks were my uncles or father or whatever, I would tell them to stop their bullshit and stop acting like pussies."


Oh you still think they are 'fighting' and on different teams ?  Such innocence.

The bought-and-paid-for demorepublicraps work for the same people and for the same goal. The end of American sovereignty and a global new world order. The same goal theyve pursued for over a century.

When the circus is over, theyll make a so-called 'deal' (nothing but a circus act - all of it) and in the meantime most have seemed to forgotten that the shutdown was supposed to be about opposition to Commie 'health care'. 

Sat, 10/12/2013 - 01:11 | 4047271 SoCalBusted
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The GOP is dead.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:54 | 4046081 hangemhigh77
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yeah but I bet everyone smoked a bunch of doobies.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:01 | 4046105 12ToothAssassin
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And Reggie Love reacharounds for everyone!!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:01 | 4046110 McMolotov
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They're gonna be doing a lot of doobie smokin' when they're living in a van down by the river.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:03 | 4046119 cougar_w
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When you put it that way, I can almost let it go.


Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:54 | 4046276 fooshorter
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+1 for Government Cheese

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:54 | 4046082 LetThemEatRand
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They can't agree on how the meeting went because they just went and had a drink together and the real conversation was, "so how much longer do we have to pretend that there's the smallest chance that we won't raise the debt ceiling?"  They forgot to even get their cover stories straight about the supposed substantive meeting.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:56 | 4046086 hangemhigh77
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I bet they played the circle jerk game and Boner lost.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:56 | 4046093 thismarketisrigged
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tyler, don't you understand, you are not playing the game correctly.


from now until 4pm, the meeting was very good, and is deff a step in the right direction.


at 4:01 pm until sunday around like 5:45 pm, you can then speak the truth, but must revert back to bullshit by 6 pm eastern when equity future markets open.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:58 | 4046096 hangemhigh77
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I want them to go into a meeting and then never come out, a meeting with their makers.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:57 | 4046098 vote_libertaria...
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So we went from:


No deal = sell sell sell




No deal = buy buy buy


Ok, makes perfect sense

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 14:59 | 4046108 hangemhigh77
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But the important question is, did they have finger sandwiches at the meeting or just cheese and crackers?  And where's the party at tonight?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:02 | 4046114 Bunga Bunga
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Wall St loves that stupid drama. Gold -> crashing. Treasuries -> not save. Buy stocks, you idiots!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:04 | 4046123 Devotional
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The Syria issue backfired on Obanana and now he wants to show off with this BS.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:06 | 4046127 QQQBall
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Just point out one more time - the discussion is being framed in a specific way by both sides. Absolutely NO mention of spending cust; just tax cuts and more debt. DC & USA are clearly broken.  

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:04 | 4046128 thismarketisrigged
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i love how these assholes are talking like '' if there is no deal by monday, markets may sell off''.


ya, maybe the dow would fall 35 pts, we all know the market has not had a real sell off since 2011.


fucking bullshit.


and no, pumping the market up fucking 6 percent on nothing than selling off 3 percent is not a fucking sell off.


i dont want to here these assholes talk about a sell off until i fucking see a -1200 day on the dow at minimum.


dont give me this -140 day as a fucking sell off.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:12 | 4046155 hangemhigh77
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Pleae in the future refer to them as "cocksuckers" it's so much more appropriate and vile.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:08 | 4046133 walküre
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The tea party has to make an impact or they can pack up and go the way of the Dodo bird after this showdown. There's political capital at stake and therefore tons of real capital tied up.

Stock market is just a casino and not a true reflection of anything other than establish market manipulation.

Obamacare is like the Nazi label. It's overused and overrated. The faction fighting "Obamacare" is pulling this gig for something entirely different and for all intense and purposes, it could well be the end of US debt financing as we know it and the beginning of a sound fiscal and monetary policy starting with the implementation of a budget.

Either way, there will be a new script after this one's done. Count on it. The political and therefore financial investments have not been placed without expecting a full return on said capital.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:34 | 4046215 earnyermoney
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how do they make an impact when the Red and Blue fascists are aligned against them?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:44 | 4046249 walküre
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Is irrelevant. What's the purpose of the tea party and who is funding them to bring this ship down?

Kabuki theatre aside, the showdown and its outcome will have real consequences.

There's no debt deal and there won't be a debt deal unless that deal is linked to real spending cuts. Otherwise, what would be the point of this exercise?

Nobody wants to be the loser and carry that label "big epic fail" for the rest of their term.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:55 | 4046251 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:   how do they make an impact


1)  Acknowledging that you've got a 1 dollar 1 vote system, and try to change that.

2) Stop genuflecting in the presence of Big-Corp, as Big-Corp needs Big-Gov.

The Tea Party is more obsessed about "those people" than anything else tho.   

They can't even acknowledge the socialist scams they are living off of.  

Git your hands off my Medicare,  I don't get no socialist benefits, I'm ENTITLED to that motorscooter.


Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:06 | 4046139 QQQBall
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don't worry - regardless of what happens, Precious will get thumped

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:10 | 4046146 hangemhigh77
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right now the market is hinging on JPM and all their BS.  They are actually confirmed cocksuckers by the way.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:13 | 4046162 hangemhigh77
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I'm waiting for a ZH headline, "Cocksuckers are in another BULLSHIT meeting!!"


Maybe next week.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:16 | 4046163 NOTaREALmerican
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Maybe they had different meetings with differnt graft filled cookies for the different member of CONgress?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:18 | 4046171 ziggy59
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Just waiting for the videos of some of these CONgrist idiots playing games on their Fones

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:39 | 4046232 Zer0head
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better still the videos that convinced Boehner et al to see things Barry's way

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:22 | 4046185 monad
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So apparently Texas lost the coin toss as to who has to host the nuclear false flag event.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:24 | 4046186 scatterbrains
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No one is further up the fed's asshole than Corker..  if he says everything is beautiful that means the criminals are positioning short for a muppet slaughter.. at least short term..  or so I'm thinking.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:28 | 4046193 JR
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The Ted Cruz assault on Obamacare has identified the duplicity of Establishment Republicans so thoroughly that they may have big trouble even returning to their districts.

The budget issues and a massive push from the Republican base from across the country have cornered these Republicans-In-Name-Only (RINOs), identifying them as appeasers, deceivers, and White Flag congressmen willing to sell out their constituents for a pat on the back from the Democrats.

The Washington Post presents them as the voice of Republican Party but they are the voice of the Lobbyists' Republican Establishment.

Sen. Bon Corker -

Sen. Bob Corker says defunding Obamacare effort is ‘silly’ and it ‘lacks courage’. He’s an idiot.

“This is exactly what is wrong with the Republican Party. Corker thinks that by refusing to pass a CR with Obamacare funding, Republicans will be ‘taking themselves out of the debate’ and he says that ‘lacks courage.” –The Right Scoop, July 30, 2013

Sen. Sue Collins –

"Sen. Susan Collins breaks from GOP's Obamacare strategy"

“Sen. Susan M. Collins, Maine Republican, said Sunday she rejects her party’s strategy to tie a strike against Obamacare to the year-end spending debate, signaling a break that, if it grows, could prove disastrous to the GOP.” – The Washington Times, Sept. 29, 2013

Sen. John Cornyn -

"Senator John Cornyn on Obamacare and 'Republican on Republican violence"

“In a heated radio interview with Texas-based Matt Patrick of KTRH Wednesday, Senator John Cornyn awkwardly defended himself from charges that he did not support Senators Mike Lee and Ted Cruz in their efforts to defund the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, as nicely laid out by Matthew Boyle of Breitbart. According to Boyle, a ‘a senior congressional staffer’ told Breitbart that ‘Instead of helping Cruz with their power as Senate GOP leaders, [Senate Minority Leader Mitch] McConnell and Cornyn are working against him.’ Indeed, the staffer did not mince words and said,

“’To be clear, nobody is fighting harder to make sure Obamacare is funded than Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn...’” –, October 10, 2013

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:37 | 4046222 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:   but they are the voice of the Lobbyists' Republican Establishment

They are voice of the people with the money to spend buying elections.

If the "Conservatives" wanted a popular movement to have ANY chance of winning you should have been trying to figure out a way to get money out of elections or get public funding into elections.

Too bad for you guys that Big-Gov and Big-Corp both want Obama care.  Big-Corp doesn't want to pay for medical-care any more, and are going to unload it on the Feds.    

Know any "Conservatives" who don't worship the hard workin` bidness men who made this great-n-glorious country great-n-glorious by making Big-Corp so powerful?

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 16:25 | 4046345 Everybodys All ...
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Democrats and Obama will now own forever the Obamacare disaster that it is. They will wish they delayed at the very least this legislation and software nightmare. That is what they will now have to run against in upcoming elections. Anyone who tried to oppose this in the near term may look like they've lost but in the long run will be a benefit from unless Obama declares martial law and all future elections unnecessary.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:35 | 4046218 TomGa
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Quit kowtowing to Barry the ChoomMaster you spineless Congressional sheep.


And the founders had intended for Congress to be the most powerful branch.... Sheesh.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:37 | 4046234 One of We
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Where the hell are Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Rand Paul the last week?  I give about as much of a shit what Susan Collins or Mitch McConell thinks as I do for what's in Pelosi's mushy brain.  Do the "anarchists" have anything to say or are they being muzzled by the MSM dicksmokers?  I wouldn't be surprised if Brave Sir Boner had them tied up and stashed in his office....

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 17:44 | 4046551 JR
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Ted Cruz along with others are speakers at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, a conference of social conservative voters, officials and activists where Obama sent hecklers of mainly immigration reform activists, who want citizenship for all incoming illegal aliens, to interrupt their speeces.

This allows Establishment reporters such as Pema Levy of International Business Times to lead with the hecklers and their quotes and sum up Cruz’s entire speech in a paragraph ,as follows:

“In his speech, Cruz defended his fight against the health care reform law that has led to the current government shutdown and urged the House of Representatives to ‘keep doing what it's doing, which is standing strong.’"

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 15:47 | 4046258 orangegeek
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10 bucks to the next senator who meets with Barry - and being in the same room, punches Barry in the face and after he drops, kicks him at least twice in the gut.



Fri, 10/11/2013 - 16:01 | 4046284 Miss Expectations
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Here's the problem, after all this trouble no one knows how to position the removal of the medical device tax as a spectacular win for America.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 16:08 | 4046294 Whatta
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"Ugly - Sen John Cornyn: "


That assbag already sold us out. His blahblahblah is political posturing to be able to say "I fought for you". BS. 

Gimmee another Ted Cruz next election in TX!!!

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 16:09 | 4046296 Whatta
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dele - stupid internet double post

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 16:07 | 4046300 oak
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harry ried will decide everything, no one else, that it is.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 16:24 | 4046340 world_debt_slave
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I left the "grand 'ole party" last year for Indpendent, sick of their capitulation to the dems, starting in 1995, Dems had been in power over 40 years and when the Repubs got control they blew it, that was the first of many straws to break.

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 17:38 | 4046544 falak pema
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the red team makes the blue team look like they are pros; that in itself is an achievement that Putin proved was a joke. 

So who is the joke really on? 

On the red team?

On the American people?

On the whole world?

On God?

On Einstein?

Certainly not  on Scrooge Macduck, he must be laffing his head off :  "The more they screw up the richer I get!"

10 billion every time the Fed says "we have it fixed"   and still rolling in! 

Fri, 10/11/2013 - 21:49 | 4047039 f16hoser
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Fuck the Republican Party! Every bit as bad/corrupt as the Democrats. Once you can come to grip's with that, we can all begin to take our country back from these fucktards. Boner is so predictable it's pathetic! Get your muskets ready boys. It may come to that....This is just getting started.

P.s. Boner, kill yourself now. Do the country a favor. At minimum, somebody take his gavel away.

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