Foodstamp Program Shutdown Imminent?

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When over the weekend, a Xerox "glitch" shut down the EBT system, better known as foodstamps, for nearly the entire day across 17 states leaving millions without "funding" to pay for food leading to dramatic examples of the basest human behavior possible, some of the more conspiratorial elements saw this merely as a dress rehearsal for what may be coming in the immediate future. While there was no basis to believe that is the case, a USDA (the currently shuttered agency that administers the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) memo obtained by the Crossroads Urban Center in Utah carries in it a very disturbing warning for the 46+ million Americans currently on foodstamps.

To wit: "understanding the operational issues and constraints that States face, and in the interest of preserving maximum flexibility, we are directing States to hold their November issuance files and delay transmission to State electronic benefit transfer (EBT) vendors until further notice." In other words, as Fox13News summarizes, "States across the country are being told to stop the supplemental nutrition assistance program for the month of November, pending further notice."

The full memo first posted on the Crossroads Facebook page is shown below:

More on this dramatic development which, if implemented, would will result in significant unpredictable outcomes across the nation:

This is going to create a huge hardship for the people we serve here in our food pantry,” says Bill Tibbits who is the Associate Director at Crossroads Urban Center.


They posted a letter from the USDA on its Facebook page. It says in part, “in the interest of preserving maximum flexibility, we are directing states to hold their November issuance files and delay transmission to state electronic benefit transfer vendors until further notice.”


“What this means if there’s not a deal, if Congress doesn’t reach a deal to get federal government back up and running, in Utah about 100,000 families won’t get food stamp benefit,” says Tibbits.


In other words, tens of thousands of Utah families may not be able to feed their children come November.


People out here are going to go without food,” says Loralee Smith whose been homeless since August and says the uncertainty is making her uneasy about where her next meal will come from. “I’m on food stamps, I don’t know if I’m going to get them, a lot of people are on food stamps and they don’t know if they’re going to get them.”


Others say if SNAP shuts down, they’ll find a way to feed themselves.

One hopes such "alternative" feeding arrangements will be peaceful, although in the most heavily armed nation in the world, and arguably the one where a massive portion of the population is now fully reliant on the welfare state for virtually every daily need, it is easy to see cutting off daily bread to tens of millions has a less than happy ending.

As the report notes, for people out on the streets like Richard Phillips, "It could impact us and it’s going to cause problems because you’re going to come to find out that people are going to steal and do what they have to do to survive."

Such a realization could come as a very unpleasant wake up call for the millions of other Americans who still live in their Ivory Towers, focusing on the daily gyrations of the S&P500, and largely oblivious of how the rest of America lives.

The full report on what may be the most catalytic event in the history of the US welfare state is presented below.

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Tue, 10/15/2013 - 13:38 | 4056650 WayBehind
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Hell yeah!

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 13:37 | 4056659 YBNguy
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Gives new meaning to "ooooh SNAP!"

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 13:41 | 4056673 WayBehind
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Sheeple revolution is imminent 

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 13:45 | 4056694 TruthInSunshine
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No possible way this is true.

This would make the Rodney King L.A. Riots seem like tea intermission at the Nutcracker Ballet by comparison, and the FSA walkers will not discriminate in their collective fit of rage & destruction.

Wal-Mart & about 900 other grocery chains would declare Chapter 7 within a year, at most, too.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 13:47 | 4056712 wee-weed up
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Exactly what Obama wants!

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 13:48 | 4056726 Mark Carney
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Tue, 10/15/2013 - 13:52 | 4056751 Tortfeasor
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The trial balloon results must have been better than expected.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 13:57 | 4056794 Manthong
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Maybe we should first consider ending tax credits to illegal aliens to save a few bucks:

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 14:04 | 4056841 SilverRhino
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Tue, 10/15/2013 - 14:03 | 4056858 Arius
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right on time ... I am just contemplating to apply and what do you know ... shutdown! 


of course, it is a conspirancy against ME!

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 14:13 | 4056902 malikai
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Looks like it's going to be a bad third quarter for Walmart.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 14:17 | 4056935 TruthInSunshine
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"This is Chris Matthews, POTUS bunghole-sniffer-in-chief, and it looks like President Obama has activated the FSA!"

"I've hoped & prayed that the greatest president, leader & person in all of history would start playing hardball, and it looks like he heard my advice."

"Now, let's go over to our fellow cable news network & Obama testicle washer & scrubber, CNN, where Wolf Blitzer is in The Situation Room with the latest news on how it's unreasonable to NOT raise the debt ceiling without any conditions, unlike the time when Obama voted AGAINST raising the debt ceiling when the national debt was less than half the amount it is now."


Tue, 10/15/2013 - 14:19 | 4056961 Boris Alatovkrap
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Obvious this is false report - Barry is not have testicle.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 14:28 | 4057015 j0nx
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Barry is not need testicle. All Barry is need to do is go on live TV after the food stamps are cut off and say this is fault of old white gray hairs in GOP and then FSA take it upon self to attack anyone with white skin driving a late model sedan. This all by design. Barry is much crafty.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 14:36 | 4057059 knukles
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Showtime at the Necropolis

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 14:59 | 4057206 BaBaBouy
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Thanks BEN, FED, GOLDman, BANKsters & The .01%ers ...


Tue, 10/15/2013 - 15:34 | 4057412 HoofHearted
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And now those of us who have been stacking ammo don't look so stupid, do we? That 50 BMG will really fuck you up if you come this way.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 15:43 | 4057437 boogerbently
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A lot of democratic voters will die in the street.

All SNAP/welfare losers are already dem voters.

This could pull independent voters to conservative side.


The BEST possibility yet...... all dems and GOP pols are pilloried, and we can start with a cvlean slate.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 15:52 | 4057496 BoNeSxxx
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And this matters how?  

Dems/Repubs/Red Team/Blue Team/Elephants/Donkeys... all sides of the same coin.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 18:05 | 4058104 SWRichmond
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Likewise be all manner of beasts, when they be brought into the field and cried havoke, then every man to take his part.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 18:40 | 4058246 Bad Attitude
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Dear Leader is a sociopath. Now it appears that Dear Leader is willing to literally sacrifice his core voting block to further his agenda. This will not end well.

This is so crazy.

Forward (over the cliff)!

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 19:19 | 4058369 Incubus
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Obama's an intelligent man. 


He's doing exactly what's been asked of him, and he's doing it skillfully.


What demonstrates masterful antagonism than using an army of useful idiots to bring a society to its knees?  It's a squeeze on the middle class, and it's from the top and bottom, and this week all the sheep "on the right" are too busy focusing "on the left" when the issue is "from the top." 

End goal is that the parasite class on the bottom will be wiped out, and so will the middle class.  The goal is a slave class for the power elite.  And you're all just falling into the dichotomies set out for you. These people know exactly how to get you all riled up and focused on distractions.  The FSA is just a tool to further an agenda.  Too many idiots on ZH can't see the forest for the trees.

gogo hegelian dialectic.


Too bad ZH is being over-run by garden variety conservatives who don't have a fucking clue.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 20:08 | 4058603 Abi Normal
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Yes, he is quite intelligent, and can follow a teleprompter very well.  Ummm, ahhh, mnnnnnmmmm...

I am a conservative, have lived through this exact same scenario, turned into civil war...

When I first heard this blowhard speak, I knew he would get elected, and started preppging right there an then, in 2006.  He will NOT force me to do a thing.  I see the man as a fabian socialist, at best or a communist or islamofascist.  I can't pin any one on him, maybe all three apply.

I lean toward, communist...

Socialized Democracy is a joke, social justice is a code word for murder...I am prepped and ready and will stand tall, and never live on a bent knee.

I am no garden variety my friend, I am a patriot who will stand up for the Constitution if necessary.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 20:10 | 4058622 Incubus
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And not a word about the billions and trillions to banksters was heard that day.


FSA is as complicit in the downfall of this country as anything else.  Another piece on the board.  Obama means nothing--he's just a pawn, too. 


Politics is theatre.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 20:35 | 4058716 chumbawamba
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Along with having a sexy ass, you are also clear thinking.

You think anyone is listening?


Tue, 10/15/2013 - 21:01 | 4058798 nmewn
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You know, intelligence does not imply morality or ethics.

Hard for me to imagine what all the moral, ethical creatures look like who helped him into office actually look like...even after they knew his largest contributor was, Goldman Sachs ;-)

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 22:40 | 4059162 DaveyJones
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Hitler was "intelligent"

Speaking of labels, the GMO food label battle is on in Washington.

Maybe Monsanto should rename their product "food stamps" 

It too is government backed, war connected and will self destruct  


Tue, 10/15/2013 - 23:22 | 4059268 JackT
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How about a little Q & A:

Q. We as a state have some concern about SNAP administrational expenditures and SNAP benefit effective 10/1/2013. Would you tell me whether SNAP program will be an exception to the possible shutdown of federal government as of 10/1 or not.  Our 120 local DSS agencies have great concern about this.

A.    Please refer to letter dated October 1, 2013, which provides information regarding SNAP benefits and operations during the lapse in appropriations.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 23:25 | 4059274 JackT
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• The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) will continue operations and eligible 

households will still receive monthly benefits for October. The authority to make October 

benefit payments comes from the Recovery Act, through which Congress provided “such sums 

as are necessary” to finance the SNAP benefit provided for in the Recovery Act. In addition, 

about $2 billion in contingency funding will be available and could be used to support State 

Administrative activities essential to continue the program and issue and process benefits. 

These contingency funds were provided in the FY 2013 appropriation and do not expire until the 

end of FY 2014. 


• No additional federal funds would be available to support the Special Supplemental Nutrition 

Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC)’s clinical services, food benefits and 

administrative costs. States may have some funds available from infant formula rebates or 

other sources, including spendforward authority, to continue operations for a week or so, but 

States would likely be unable to sustain operations for a longer period. Contingency funds will 

be available to help States – but even this funding would not fully mitigate a shortfall for the 

entire month of October.
Tue, 10/15/2013 - 23:33 | 4059293 Mr. Fix
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I just wanted to see how narrow a post can get 

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 23:35 | 4059303 Mr. Fix
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That's pretty thin!

Just like the FSA is about to get!

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 04:59 | 4059573 Scarlett
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"Spain is not Uganda"

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 05:00 | 4059576 Scarlett
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"This is not a deadbeat nation"

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 05:01 | 4059577 Scarlett
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"Please do not worry"

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 05:01 | 4059578 Scarlett
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"Oh, when the president does it, that means it's not illegal"

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 05:04 | 4059582 Scarlett
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yup, it gets pretty thin.

"We're going to be doing one thing, and one thing onlykilling zombies"

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 05:05 | 4059583 Scarlett
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"you've met me at a very strange time in my life"

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 21:05 | 4058823 divide_by_zero
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That was always the plan, useful idiots go first.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 03:35 | 4059526 old naughty
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will ZH get to 100K readers mark with this Foodstamp article?

Well done.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 16:35 | 4057685 SilverRhino
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50 BMG or 88 magnum .... 

This goes through armor. And through the victimthrough the wallthrough a tree outside

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 18:21 | 4058157 nmewn
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Hey, I just thought of sumpin.

Them "law abiding citizens" in anti-gun states are sorta screwed now if this happens huh? Kinda provides some vivid clarity between rights & laws though.

To the ignorant and the soon to be dead ;-)

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 20:11 | 4058621 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Not dead, just raped with their stuff liberated to it's new owners.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 21:01 | 4058807 Abi Normal
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LOL, not dead huh, think again fella.  You think the drug addled taker is going to care whether one lives or dies?  Same for gangbangers?  Or the UN?  ROFLMAO...this is going to be the biggest CF you've EVER SEEN.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 21:11 | 4058841 nmewn
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Hey, molon labe.

Gotta take it first right? ;-)

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 21:45 | 4058951 Abi Normal
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If they can my friend, but they will pay a heavy price doing so my friend!  Bring it, Molon Labe!

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 21:24 | 4058878 Agent P
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It's an 88 magnum.  They made it for him special.  It shoots through schools.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 16:42 | 4057702 Oldwood
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You really need diversity in your armory investment strategy. Think in terms of close range and long range, daytime and night. Sound suppressed and scary loud to round it all out. It doesn't all have to be about end of times, it can be fun! I try to have one of everything with plenty of rounds for all.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 16:43 | 4057719 XitSam
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A couple years ago Halloween, the college kids down the block had a party.  No street light on this block. Lots of people wandering up and down the block to cars, throwing trash, making noise, etc.

Just as a theoretical thing I considered, if they had decided to swarm my house lots of them would be wounded or dead, but they would win in the end.

A Failure of Civility is worth the $30, available on Amazon too.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 00:46 | 4059393 yogibear
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Direct the mobs to the Federal Reserve banks.

Bernanke, Yellen, Evans, Dudley and Fisher, looks like your going to have the mobs of hungry people at your doorstep.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 16:53 | 4057756 Kirk2NCC1701
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No Zombie riots will happen in Utah, right? 

After all, we all know how well prepared the Mormons are, and how charitable they are.  Now if their charity will only go beyond their LSD religious affiliation, things should go well there.  Right?

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