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Ongoing Live Coverage Of The Senate Floor Ravings
Reid has told us the US will be downgraded as soon as tonight (Red FD?); Pelosi says this is all Bush's debt anyway; and now Rubio is ranting... never a dull moment on the Senate Floor...
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Let the drama begin
Never known a circle-jerk to be dramatic...
Today, after years of watching the two political parties do the exact same shit over and over again, it just boggles my mind that anyone with half a brain could think there there are actual good guys and bad guys in Washington. Normally intelligent people are parroting all the same stupid partisan talking points they read on the Huffington Post or Fox News and getting very angry at anyone who disagrees with their finger pointing game.
It is amazing what a bunch of dumb fucks the Americans are these days. How it is possible that people with IQs over 80 can live in the same world as you and I and still insist that there is any difference between Republicrats and Demlicans is beyond me. Believing in the Red Team Blue Team meme today shows the same critical thinking ability of a pro wrestling fan that insists that that shit is real.
http://www.singledudetravel.com/2013/10/just-in-american-are-such-retard...
surprising perhaps, but nonetheless apparent that nancy pelosi was pretty hot before the boob reduction and entering into politics.
the thought pattern however, remains the same. here she is circa, ummm, 1929 or so maybe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08RFTI9QR20
I'm sorry, I can't watch these people tell lie after lie on national television without wanting to throw something at the screen.
It's a female impersonator with giant breast implants.
Re: giant breast
NOW, i see why it's been working all this time.
Totally obligatory "that was then, this is now" NerObama-speak:
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."
"Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is “trillion” with a “T.” That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion."
"Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America."
"And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on."
"Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities."
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
VOTING AGAINST RAISING THE DEBT CEILING
March 16, 2006
Official National Debt at that time: 8.5 trillion USD
Official National Debt NOW: 17+ trillion (with a "T") USD
FORWARD!!!
The same people who cheered Obama for his brilliance then are the same people who are cheering Obama now for ignoring what he said.
From HOPE & CHANGE to HOPELESS & CHANGE-LESS
We've struck the iceburg, water gushing in. The captain has long bailed in a lifeboat.
Doctors now want payment up front...YOU can fight with your insurance compay:
When Barbara Retkowski went to a Cape Coral, Florida, health clinic in August to treat a blood condition, she figured the center would bill her insurance company. Instead, it demanded payment upfront.
Full story here:
Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spreadhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-14/patients-pay-before-seeing-doct...
"Patients pay......" What? Isn't healthcare supposed to be free now because Obama?
If you've ever had to jump through the hoops of filing claims on behalf of patients, then the trend to run the fuck away from it isn't particularly troublesome... patients are going to see what a benefit it has been to have their medical services provider bill insurance for them... Further, the contracts many providers have to sign to be "in network" do not require medical providers to "eat the turd" on the front end... if you haven't met your deductible yet, then the bill is the patient's responsibility until the deductible has been met... going to shock a lot of folks...
Re: going to shock a lot of folks
I've got a 5k/pp deductible through by TBTF employer. It's the wave of the future; getting people to actually feal the pain of the healthcare again.
Not a bad thing really. Too bad these OldFarts on Medicare don't have to pay more up front. There'd be less of them riding around in socialist motor-scooters demanding they be giving unlimited hip-replacements surgeries.
Git yer Big-Gov hands off my Medicare, I'm ENTITLED to that!!!
The system is still fucked up though because government sponsored/indigent insurance will dictate rates that medical professionals charge. We're already seeing some of this in that medical professionals run every test that is remotely associated with an ailment because they know the government will pick up the tab. People who actually have to pay their own ways are secondary citizens.
If you're going to impose a system where patients have to pay out of pocket for all but catastrophic illnesses, then why not allow us to get catastrophic insurance and not suffer a penalty for it not meeting the requirements demanded by obamacare? The medical professionals (especially large hospital groups) must be held accountable in this process and eat the turd... prices have to be reduced and for those with high capital expenses, then they need to fail... simple as that. They overbuilt at a time when none of their patients could afford their asking prices.
In short, if you're going to make patients start paying for care, then you need to impose some mechanism to require medical professionals to reduce the cost of their care... we're getting the worst of both worlds with obamacare (because medical professionals are tbtf and will be bailed out no matter what). Oh well, at least the insurance companies have been bailed out now...
As Sam Goldwyn said when producing the film "The Bible"
"Why only 12 Apostles? Go out and get me thousands!"
Exactly. As long as there are no viable third parties, and there should be, this idiotic drama will continue.
It's not any easier trying to live among them. Chemical lobotomies characterized by reason and logic reduction/elimination. Zombies is not really an exaggeration.
Typical for Harry..
Get ready Harry..
Instead of Dirty Harry he's a Whimpy Harry.
An apoplexy on all of their houses.
Fuck the govt. Fuck obama care. There, I said it.
Both parties have ignored the outlandish crimes by the banksters, voted for the Patriot act/NDAA and propagated endless war/terrorism.
Taxation without representation, bitchez. DEBT REPUDIATION, YES WE CAN. FUCK EM.
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x Quintillion
.......am I clear?.......
A debt jubilee will only happen after Wall Street is swinging from ropes.
No shortage of rope and light posts that I am aware of...
Nor a shortage of Shovel-ready jobs to follow.
"Debt Jubilee"
Is that when the sheeple tell the criminals of government and their thieving bankster masters, "No! We won`t pay, and we won`t obey!" and then assemble the guillotines for duty?!
I knew that was going to happen today - LOL
Really? "Bush's Fault"? Isn't that card too worn and tattered to be played anymore, Nancy?
I don't see any ratings agency that has the balls to do the right thing and downgrade the US again. Where is Egan Jones these days?
I guess if the 10yr is due to be rolled over, then technically..... But the 30 year is definitely Reagans fault!!
You mean you don't tune in just for the pearls of wisdom from Pelosi?
At least no one is blaming Andrew Jackson yet:
http://waltercoffey.wordpress.com/2013/02/13/andrew-jackson-and-the-nati...
You think Ole Hickory is rolling over in his grave that his likeness graces the $20 FRN ?
I wish he'd come back and haunt the Church of D.C. and scare these inhuman pieces of shit know as Pols to a painful death
Seems public education buries Adnrew Jackson compared to praising Abraham Lincoln.
The 1st Dictator of the USSA. He's a hero to all that lick the jack boots of the state
The true blame lies with Alexander Hamilton (on the $10 bill)
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2008/09/18/past-present-alexander...
Truely, NOTHING. EVER. CHANGES.
I see the Dems point. Obama and his merry band of fools have only doubled the national debt since taking office in 2008. Bush merely got the ball rolling for them.
Re; only doubled
Interesting chart of US debt:
http://www.skymachines.com/US-National-Debt-Per-Capita-Percent-of-GDP-and-by-Presidental-Term.htm
Looks like everybody loves to spend the children's money.
They've been banned by the "Just Us" dept. from rating sovereign debt. I can't remember for how long.
Like watching paint dry...
Raising the debt ceiling dosen't add to the debt of the US ...Obama
MOAR popcorn...
All morning has been fun.
The bots are getting steamed up on every single bull crap they are cooking. Looks like the bots have now been engineered to follow the complement theory.
Any news of deal or any news about talks has the market heading down all morning and any news of no deal or rating changes has the market headed higher... WOW
And the great shit show continues.
Barnum and Bailey ain't got nothing on these assholes.
Speaking of Fuckuppy
<---Laugh ourselves to death
<---Die of boredom
fuckbags
republicans made america strong. fuck that pelosi loser crew.
Re: republicans made america strong
Yes, by increasing the debt.
Everybody loves free money.
the jews here and abroad will order their banks to dump stock in order to scare the shit out of the buy and holders. in order to get congress off the dime. time and time again. all so the bankers get more and more money.
Treason-Span (T-SPAN). Watch treason as it happens.
Soon to be followed by Guillotine-Span (G-SPAN).
The only problem with the guillotine is you can't hang them once you decapitate them, and when it comes to politicians I'd rather see a hangin'.
Or how about a good ol' fashioned medievial impaling?
But for Wall Street, let's repurpose that "charging bull" into a brazen bull, put the corporate criminals inside, and have ourselves a party?
Would you like some cheese with your whine?
Play Chapters:
Obama.. By Executive Emergency Order you can declare the Treasury debt owned by the Federal Reserve cancelled. I do believe the above strategic bullet points highlight your hidden agenda. Good luck Kenyan nitwit.. In time, all will be exposed thru your own lies & fraud captured in media format.
No wonder nothing gets done....they don't do shit.
The House and Senate do not agree on a total budget for ALL the gov't.
The proper solution is to pass funding for that which they agree and debate the priorities of the rest.
But the Senate and Obama insist wrongly on getting funding for ALL they want, and refuse to approve any funds for any program until then, regardless of possible shutdown or default. That is extortion or blackmail.
These Cunts couldn't run a lemonade stand if their lives depended on it... and they are entrusted with a country?
Hang Em' High ASAP
Worse than that, wait till they are entrusted with running health care...
With all the regulations on lemonade stands, nobody can run one.
Up arrow for you! Brilliant gallows humor.
That was a good one, Rex.
yeah and if they could they would fuck it up with GMO Sugar, Flouridated Water and Puckery Tart Lemons...oh wait that sounds like an analogy for OBlowme care
Nugent-Ventura 2016
Clinton-Obama 2016
The top ticket, to me, would be f'ing hysterical...
Any re-prioritization of government spending and function should be publicly debated and determined.
What Obama threatens is an engineered and ill-conceived collapse which would only facilitate his assuming "emergency" autocratic powers.
The House has approved funding bills to operate the government, though not all Obama wants.
The Senate, in accord with Obama, has rejected ALL House-approved funding,
even for programs with which the Senate normally agrees.
So instead of properly funding that part which House and Senate agree, and submitting the rest to political negotiation, they choose to deny the House any say in the matter with an all or nothing demand.
They thereby threaten a disorderly economic and government collapse which would only be of benefit to Obama & company.
Contrary to the MSM portrayal, the House (the People's assembly) does and should have a voice and veto in matters of budget.
Contrary to the media portrayal, the House does NOT have to approve all Obama wants.
Contrary to the MSM portrayal, Obama is practicing extortion.
And, to make the point clearly,
The House would be equally guilty of extortion were they to refuse ALL appropriations to finance government in an attempt to force Senate concession over the part in dispute.
[Yes, I realize, given K Street influence, I am only arguing for retaining some semblance of a representative democratic process. The real issue currently between the two wings of the Oligarchy party is whether (when) an 'emergency crisis' will be necessary to proceed with the TBTF takeover and 'Greek' austerity for everyone else.]
Re: Yes, I realize, given K Street influence, I am only arguing for retaining some semblance of a representative democratic process.
There is a representative democratic process. It's called 1 dollar 1 vote.
In a corporate-fascist society those with the most money are deemed the most successful - and therefore, the most worthy - and are granted the right to purchase votes to protect their interests.
If you want a populist government "of da people" you've got to figure out how to get money out of the process (it's impossible in the US, but a good mind exersize).
Yes, one dollar one vote. Americans have been voting with their dollars for years, continuing to purchase imported goods, only to awake completely surprised that their jobs had dissappeared. And when they have used actuall ballots to vote they have selected those who would best provide for them without the need of a job. More welfare, more unemployment more dissability more food stamps and section eight vouchers. Their is no one protesting for a job. Increased minimum wage yes, but not jobs. Give me more for doing the same or less. No, I think WE have got exactly what WE voted for. So fear not, your preferred version of democracy seems to be working. "This is what democracy looks like!"
Getting money out of the process entails taking power away from D.C. The less power D.C. has, the less money will flow there. Buy, yah, how? Hopefully peacefully.
Re: Getting money out of the process entails taking power away from D.C.
Too late now, WAY WAY WAY too many people are living very well off their favorite Big-Gov crony-capitalist scam.
You are likely right about no chance of change here. The more government tries to control business, the more business tries to control government. The natural progression will be for the two to merge into one which has largely already happened. Trying to take power from anyone is hard but the size and scale of this mess is epic. A lot of people, many innocent of the worst of this corruption, will be hurt when it does correct itself, which is the only way it will work now. Personal self interest has taken us to this point and shows no signs of reversing. I think we are likely doomed and occupy ourselves with the details and who's fault it will be but in the end it really won't matter, and never has. I'm convinced this is just what we do.
And it's off to a 2 hour, taxpayer-paid for lunch....wonderful.
Got here just in time for them to call a recess. Woo hoo!!
Showbiz for ugly people. Quit paying them attention and stick it to them
It's kind of a shame that there isn't a clause in the Constitution that allows for a defenestration of of all three branches of government when it transitions from a Republic to a tyranny.
Imagine the Pay per View income from such an event...
Hey guys, race you to the Pence and Pound!
It's Thomas Jefferson's fault for not being clearer on what a natural born citizen was. Also, if he had allowed a cruel and unusual punishment prohibition exemption for anyone making a bank that formed its own currency, ie. the Fed.. Then we might still have a government with his and our ideals rather than this criminal vomit running us now.
wow, this guy said wall st has been acting rational so far.
up thursday and friday on hope, and he said '' we are down significant today''/.
just when i thought i heard it all
All "rational" movement is upward! Irrational is downward. Haven't you been paying attention?
We may be witnessing the engineered collapse of the USD and default on US debt. There are too many things going on for this to be a run-of-the-mill debt ceiling negotiation. The blatant manipulation of the metals markets, along with the equities markets is only transparent to the sheeple. Keep your powder dry as it is going to be a bumpy road.
I am expecting 'something' to happen the next 4-6 weeks.
Power grid (drill) failure any one?
Its signature, if it happens, will be a highly leveraged effect from an unnamed trigger source, like A EBT system lengthy failure, some single event cascading power grid medium term failure, or some sort of false flag catastrophy vaguely related to another systemic failure. The event, if it happens, will not harm the reputation of wallstreet, the FED, or ECB, or IMF, those are TPTB and are needed for the new currency and new world economic order. Hope none of this happens.
Default now or later. The Fed is trying to default through printing.
Say no to increasing the credit card limit.
Fuck em all. Throw a couple hundred hatchets in turn out the lights and chain the doors shut.
Pay per view?
A very powerful scenario is the deadline passes and Treasury has to make their prioritization decisions.
Debt will be serviced.
At that point there is a huge shift of the landscape. They, inside the administration, have to decide how to inflict pain. Do they cut off Soc Sec checks on 1 Nov? If they do, the GOP will scream that they could have paid them, and prove it.
Will they cut off the military? Well, sharply, and the GOP would be somewhat wise to concentrate on Soc Sec.
The huge danger the administration would then face is the very fast discovery by all that the budget would then be balanced. The GOP could start talking about pointless, destructive efforts to take it out of balance again.
I'm guessing that they cut off programs that assist state and local governments first.
Obama put more into the debt , faster, than bush did.
And Obama didn't have to deal with 9/11.
Re: And Obama didn't have to deal with 9/11.
You mean by attacking the wrong country?
http://www.skymachines.com/US-National-Debt-Per-Capita-Percent-of-GDP-and-by-Presidental-Term.htm
Bush2 5.7T to 10.7T (almost double in 8 years, but that's what happens when you tell people to shop instead raising taxes to pay for bombing the sand people)
Obama 10.7T to 16.4T in 4 years (through 2012)
Bush2 added 5 Trillion in 8 years. Or 600B and change.
Obama has added 7 Trillion in 5. Or 1.4 T a year
Obama is spending at 2x the rate of Bush2.
Re: Obama is spending at 2x the rate of Bush2
Well, not quite, the percentage increases are in the link:
Reagan: $1 T to 2.7 T, a 188% increase (14% annual increase). Bush2: 8.3% annual increase. Obama: 11.3% annual increase.
But, it doesn't matter: As Cheney said: Reagan proved deficits don't matter.
http://www.skymachines.com/US-National-Debt-Per-Capita-Percent-of-GDP-and-by-Presidental-Term.htm
Everybody loves the Big-Gov scam they are living off of.
(Git yer hands off my Medicare, I'm ENTITLED to that 4th hip replacement surgery!)
Obama is not to blame for any of this. Hell, if you listen to him, he's not even part of this government. He is our LEADER and above all that. He would much rather be connecting to his people making sandwiches than trying to avert an economic meltdown. He would never lower himself to the level of negotiating, much less compromising with republicans. He is a free black man that will answer to no one, given his black history of oppression (of which he never experienced while being afforded an Ivy League education with no means of paying for it) and his publicly acclaimed superior intelligence. He is The Man!
Why does everyone insist on referring to Obama as "black", when he is ALSO half-Caucasian?
And why does HE identify so strongly with only one half of his heritage? Is this not racism as well?
I am Jonesin' for a leader like this...a couple of my fav quotes straight outta Idiocracy...
1)
Pvt. Joe Bowers: [addressing Congress] ... And there was a time in this country, a long time ago, when reading wasn't just for fags and neither was writing. People wrote books and movies, movies that had stories so you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting, and I believe that time can come again!
2)
President Camacho: Now I understand everyone's shit's emotional right now. But I've got a 3 point plan that's going to fix EVERYTHING.
Congressman #1: Break it down, Camacho!
President Camacho: Number 1: We've got this guy Not Sure. Number 2: He's got a higher IQ than ANY MAN ALIVE. and Number 3: He's going to fix EVERYTHING.
\\\\\\Mike Judge is a Genius//////
To identify yourself as anything other than progressive is to prove yourself at least a bigot if not a full on racist. I am white...therefore I am wrong.
FUCK all these cunts...especially that uber-cunt Pelosi....
A water cooled Thompson sub-machine gun, aimed at the entire floor of CONgress, and pulling the trigger until it goes "click" is what this country needs.
FUCK THEM ALL!!!!
Calm down. Go for a walk. The show reopens at 2:15 EST. Just advice.
There's an excellent chance that this goes on for another week. That's what any bloviating senator considers a "challenge".
If only one of these washington idiots, who might have the brains to understand, would stand up and speak to US citizens telling them that the country is broke and we must retrench before we totally destroy the country. ....and if only the media would broadcast it far and wide to all the citizens, and if only the citizens would listen and understand and demand at least a balanced budget.... (I'm looking inside myself for hope....not much there...)
Re: demand at least a balanced budget
Only until another really smart politician told the OldFarts their medicare scam would be cut.
Half the country is living the good life off of some Big-Gov scam: Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-Ed, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState.
MY Big-Gov scam isn't socialism, it's an investment in our children's future.
Duplicity, ask for it by name!
"Everyone's doing it" defeatism, right here.
itchy trigger finger
More like a divestment of our children's future.
I guess if one of those D.C. critters really did speak out and the MSM really did push the story, and after that the masses demanded no cuts I would have to say SCREW'EM!....I'm prepped. Amen.
WKBW TV (Ch. 7 Buffalo), Eyewitness News: "It's 11 O'Clock. Do you know where your (Precious) children are?"
"Lakawana, Chiktawaga are burning. Wait... Now Main St is burning to. What? DC and Wall St are burning also? Where's Barak Almighty?"
;-)
Other than curing insomnia, or using the live feed to gain terrorist confessions from Gitmo detainees until it is turned off, this shit has no value. Rome burns and the august Senate will debate a resolution for "National Ban Hiccups Week". A bunch of posturing bags of wind.
http://vegasxau.blogspot.com
Best thing in the world that could happen is NO MORE DEBT ORGY. This would expose the farce that is Obamanomics. Bernanke would start buying 100% of the debt and the farce would be fully exposed.
"Pelosi says this is all Bush's debt anyway"
This slut is a moron!
Me-thinks these millionaires give not a fuck about your children's future. For they shall pay my fucking cronies.
I'm for the unborn vote. After all, the dead tend to turn out in record numbers. Because we all know how much voting matters and changes things for we the sheeple.
Bernanke bucks ahoy!
Hapless and hopeless, now let me get back to some productive free-enterprise work....
boring.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/10/15/the-elections-for-2014-are-all-...
The word is out. They are using the shutdown to try to install a virtual dictatorship in 2014 and taxes will soar like never before. Every act from here on out will be the design to create a one-party system. If the Democrats win using every social issue they can think of, the economics will then take control and the worst of the worst will then be unleashed. Capital will be forced into hiding and we will see economic growth decline sharply 2015.75-2020.05. This is DEFLATION in full gear.
Market liquidity will collapse after 2015.75 and this will lead to greater volatility. They cannot grasp that when you tax everyone, there is higher unemployment and the VELOCITY of money declines. Cheer-up! We have a front row seat.
Armstrong is still calling for deflation? At this point I don't know. Anything could happen. If the government cannot pay its debts, it will implode. Printing money seems the way they take, especially if the big money is 'hiding.'
Silver lining? Hyperinflated stocks are getting CHEAP!!
Fuck you guys. Military spending is $1.2T all in - cut that shit and stop the nation building shit - we suck at it.
STFU - really, just STFU... enough already. Throw them all out and starve the beast
Panem et Twerkenses, feminam canes
Meh, just doesn't have the ring :
Bread and Twerkuses, Bitchez!
Those clowns in the video look smart... with the sound off.
Let Rome fall, allow our hegemony to dissolve, and allow the people around the world choose their own leaders that would truly represent them.
How can a governmental body that is not bound by the same rules we are, who nearly half of them are millionaires, who aren't even enrolled in Obamacare themselves, a body that measures performance by money raised instead of constituency happiness truly represent the people? It simply can't.