So Much For Negotiating: White House Rejects House Republican Proposal

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Before Boehner and his merry men even had a chance to explain themselves, the White House has pre-empted...
Between Boehner's "Senate bill is hand grenade" and Van Hollen's "House Bill is reckless" comments, how anyone can argue we are getting closer to deal is beyond us... Obama is at least consistent - "unconditional surrender of default" remains the only play for now...
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Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:10 | 4055963 One And Only
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NSA was on that shit.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:20 | 4056010 Arius
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goldman says it will all be fixed ... bet accordingly!


WATERLOO playbook ... is still the same tactics ... nothing new under the sun

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:30 | 4056082 camaro68ss
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This is better then a dry ice bomb at an airport!

Or a nuclear hand grenade with a blast radius of 100 ft. but the GI can only throw it 20 ft. haha  

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:34 | 4056090 TruthInSunshine
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It's all for pure theater, to try & convince the voter rabble that they really, really, really tried not to cave to NerObama's unconditional ultimatum, when in fact, both "different" parties have their marionette strings pulled by the same entities & people behind the stage.

A deal will be announced between now and the point in time that the State Run Mainstream Media has declared as TEOTWAWKI.

Now Kick-That-Can & FORWARD!

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:57 | 4056210 RSloane
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Of course its pure theater. Blue Team/Red Team promoters are just caught in the dramatic moment, poor things.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 12:02 | 4056247 BigRedRider
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I noticed McConnell and Reid talking in the Senate last night about the ongoing negotiations.  Reid had a blue tie and McConnell had a red tie.  Not that's snarky.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 12:13 | 4056306 RSloane
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LOL yes it is. I ddn't catch that bit, sorry I missed it.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 14:19 | 4056946 fockewulf190
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Chicken. Thats all it comes down to. If the crash happens, we have a defacto balanced budget non-amendment. Bring back the ration cards.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 12:04 | 4056260 El Vaquero
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Like I say, if they want to get rid of Obamacare, they could simply give the asshole in the White House everything he wants, then turn around and do everything in their power to make him enforce every single provision.  The entire thing is one big fucking train wreck, and it would be nice if he were the conductor. 

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:21 | 4056028 Headbanger
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It's more clear now that Obama wants to wreck the Federal Government to make way for his Socialist Paradise.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:23 | 4056050 El Tuco
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Welcome Comrades,

Please line up here for your bread and soap....just like the good old days in the USSR.


Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:40 | 4056137 j0nx
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Soup or soap? 'Cause I aint eatin soap.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:52 | 4056184 camaro68ss
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you eat what you get damit!



Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:59 | 4056228 TruthInSunshine
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You can't have your pudding if you don't consume your Panem Et Circenses.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 14:21 | 4056969 fockewulf190
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We'll be welcoming the Minutemen soon enough. One million Minuteman...and women, with AR's and the like surrounding the Capital and the White House. Don't Tread On Me!

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:22 | 4056056 kralizec
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Rather obvious, isn't it?

Can't convince the great unwashed of that though...

Oh well, too bad so sad.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:32 | 4056096 Canadian Dirtlump
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It seems the only logical way to look at it, indeed, is that they are trying to engineer a spectacular calamity. I can't see any other explanation. Fine, Berri, may be a drug addled bum hacker, but his bosses certainly aren't idiots so one can't chalk this up to simple boobery.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:43 | 4056134 Kirk2NCC1701
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You must mean "...Obama wants to wreck the Federal Government to make way for the NWO."

Per his Sponsors' instructions.  Obama -- the Manchurian Candidate.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 12:09 | 4056282 topshelfstuff
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Anyone thinking this is nothing more than a Charade? and that a Default is indeed going to happen, if only short-term, a kinda test-run and also a payback for the G-20 brush-off, and recent speaking out boldly to the US, like Brazil's Pres did at the UN (just one example)

The thing is, the damage to the USD is already done, as far as deserving to maintain its position of World's Reserve Currency...just think how the rest of the world views DC.'s actions

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 12:57 | 4056527 tvdog
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It's more clear now that Obama wants to wreck the Federal Government to make way for his Socialist Paradise.

Socialism? Wouldn't that be nice! Socialists spend money on people. This government spends money on war, security theater, and corporate welfare.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 15:53 | 4057486 sylviasays
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"It's more clear now that Obama wants to wreck the Federal Government to make way for his Socialist Paradise."

"Socialism? Wouldn't that be nice! Socialists spend money on people. This government spends money on war, security theater, and corporate welfare."

Until they run out of other people's money! 

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:11 | 4055973 Bearwagon
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No, I'm not falling for this. I know that they won't let me have my day in the sun ... I just know it somehow ...

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:13 | 4055975 Max Damage
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White house lieing again? You can tell because Obama opens his mouth

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:47 | 4056159 Kirk2NCC1701
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Beware, GOP!  You are being set up to be the Patsy for 2014 Mid-Term Elections.

Tea Party will be called worse than "Stubborn minority" in due course.  Perhaps even by "Mainstream Republicans". 

Long Tar, Feathers and Rope, as the 'merican masses are so damn uninformed and so malleable.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:54 | 4056193 James-Morrison
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No, the GOP has precedent.
They have to pass the bill to see what's in it.
Surely Bronco and the Blue Boys, understand that song.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:14 | 4055977 Rainman
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Ready, fire, aim !

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:15 | 4056002 Bearwagon
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Just fire!

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:12 | 4055978 LetThemEatRand
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Unconditional surrender is what the banks want.  And what the banks want, they will get.  Too bad little Red Teamers, you don't get to pretend you give a shit this time.  Banker bonuses are more important than your jobs.  But don't worry, you'll be well taken care of by Uncle Jamie and Aunt Lloyd if you lose your cush federal job, and of course you have that nice pension and health care for life so it isn't so bad.  

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:55 | 4056195 RSloane
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Red Teamers? Ah that's right, Blue Teamers have no vested interest in this at all.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 12:05 | 4056264 LetThemEatRand
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Blue Teamers have already unconditionally surrended to the banks and have convinced their stupid voters that the debt ceiling is a good thing.  Red Teamers are pretending they have not unconditionally surrended to the banks and that they don't want to raise the debt ceiling.  Some here (you?) still seem to think the Red Teamers give a shit and that this isn't all a show.  I'm sorry to break the news....

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 12:13 | 4056291 RSloane
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Yes of course I must believe that because you said so. Which is why I posted above that its all theater. Every single minute of it.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:16 | 4055990 Dr. No
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This issue will cost Boehner the speakership, which is good.  My recommendation:  pass a bill which requires payment of the debt and release enough funds to do that (and only that).  The Senate and Prez will veto.  This will then give Repubs some traction when Obama decides to default on debt payments.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:17 | 4055999 LetThemEatRand
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And, scene.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:46 | 4056161 Atomizer
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From the Diaries of Barrack Hussein Obama..


We was just a weasel who cried wolf too many times.


Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:44 | 4056155 Meat Hammer
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Dr. No, I'm sure they discussed that at the last orgy and then decided against it...right before they shot all the hookers at the party who heard everything.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:50 | 4056183 Dr. No
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It would seem this situation has been engineered to burn Boehner.  Which, I like.  His TARP plea cannot be forgiven.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 12:16 | 4056330 RSloane
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Sadly, I would be more inclined to believe that happened than I would earnest negotiations on behalf of the US citizens are taking place. +1 for style.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:43 | 4056158 Magnix
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Read his's all in there. It never was a secret. Then go what the 2016 documentary that did a followup on the biography. That will tell you all you need to know.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 13:26 | 4056621 Col_Sanders
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Why do that?  The Constitution already requires payment of the debts.

And there is plenty of tax revenue to do that, and pay for much, but not all, of the rest of the budget.

Let the president decide what gets cut.  He wants to be the man, let him be the man.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:17 | 4056000 Keyser
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I'll wager a dollar vs a donut that this time tomorrow the federal government will still be shut down. The Obama admin WANTS the markets to tank. 

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:19 | 4056013 breakyoself
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That is great.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:20 | 4056022 Tsar Pointless
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I think the bankster gangsters want the market to tank, and this administration is just along for the ride.

Keep your eye on the ball and not the Red and Blue teams playing the game, Keyser.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:38 | 4056136 Singelguy
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Yup, how much do want to bet that Goldman and JPM have shorted the market? As soon as the market crashes, they cash in, make a fortune and the following day a deal is miracuously announced!

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:44 | 4056164 j0nx
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Same for the congress shitbirds. How much money was saved or made by members of congress during the TARP debacle? Same goes for this shit. Crooks all and all should be locked the fuck up.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 12:05 | 4056263 earnyermoney
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Then Barry announces at his Presser on the deal that it's a good time to buy stocks.



Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:19 | 4056032 jtz5
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Couldn't agree more.  Then, the administration blames the stock market fallout, re-entry into recession, future job layoffs, etc. all on the Republicans.


All this just to be re-elected in 2014 and control all 3 branches...

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:48 | 4056173 ElvisDog
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Here's the problem with that scenario. If what you wrote happens, the dumping of Treasuries by foreign governments will accelerate, because it will be crystal clear that there will be no restraint to U.S. fiscal spending. Interest rates will rise across the boards and the whole system will collapse. If it happened right away the Dems with their MSM lackeys might pin it on the Republicans. But it will probably take months to play out, and the Democrats will own the collapse.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 12:20 | 4056362 El Vaquero
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The problem with the blame game here is that, no matter the party in power, spending is good if it's for their little pet projects.  Spending is bad when they're not in power.  Same shit, different flavor, but you will eat it no matter whether it came out of a red asshole or a blue asshole.

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:18 | 4056008 Flammonde
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“I do not know if the people of the United States would vote for superior men if they ran for office, but there can be no doubt that such men do not run.” 
Alexis de TocquevilleDemocracy in America

Tue, 10/15/2013 - 11:41 | 4056142 HoofHearted
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Ron Paul ran...and look what the American people did. God bless Texas that we got to see him in the House as long as we did.

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