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Guest Post: Non-Participation As An Effective Weapon Against Tyranny
Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,
Legitimate revolution takes time, patience and fortitude. Unfortunately, this is a strategic concept that is lost on many Americans today who suffer from a now common ailment of attention deficit disorder and an obsession with immediate gratification. Even some who have their hearts in the right place and who work to defend and resurrect our nation’s founding ideals seem to believe that any action to defeat corrupt oligarchy must be effective immediately, otherwise, it’s not worth the attempt. History, of course, teaches us the opposite.
The American rebellion against the British monarchy was not an abrupt or immediate affair. Anger and unrest over the trespasses of King George simmered for decades. The first British troops stationed with the intent to stifle colonial freedoms arrived in Massachusetts in 1768. The Boston Massacre took place in 1770, and still, the Founders refused to leap into open retaliation. Lexington Green and the “shot heard around the world” did not take place until April 19, 1775. The Revolution took years to culminate into an actual physical war. So what did the colonists do in the meantime? Sit on their hands?
In fact, early Americans employed economic tactics against their enemy long before they picked up muskets and powder. British imports were turned away or destroyed. Clothing and other items normally shipped from Europe to be sold in the colonies were boycotted, while colonists began producing all of their own survival necessities. They refused to participate in the system that was designed to enslave them and this gave them a foundation on which to launch their eventual fight for liberty. Without efforts in economic independence, the American Revolution may not have ever taken place.
I always recall this example whenever I am confronted with a Gung-ho liberty movement activist who demands to know when “we” are going to “do something” about criminal government. Or, when I am confronted by nihilists who proclaim that “we” should have “pulled the trigger” long ago, and now it is “too late to do anything.” The Founders had the same doubts and faced the same naysayers, and had the wisdom to act with the correct force at the correct moment.
The methods of non-participation have been repeated in many dissenting actions against despotic establishments, often with much success. This does not mean that one can necessarily topple tyrants simply by refusing to use their goods or their currency. That would be a childish assumption. Very few tyrants have ever been removed from power without an act of force. However, the process of learning to become self sufficient makes each person more effective as an activist or revolutionary, and thus, more dangerous to those who seek control.
Sadly, one of the greatest threats to the American public in 2013 is the possibility that our government will cut off public access to Federal funds. Our society has become so addicted to government tainted money that up to one third of the country relies on some form of paycheck or welfare from the system. If the system breaks, or is deliberately sabotaged, the sickening level of citizen dependency today makes catastrophe inevitable.
The most interesting aspect of the current “shut-down” situation is the fear it is generating, and the partisan fury it facilitates. Republicans and Democrats are nearly ready to tear each others’ throats out all over the continuance or non-continuance of a political body that no longer functions anyway and has become a middle-man for global banks. This interests me because it is an entirely solvable problem, yet the average American appears completely ignorant of the fix.
Most people are either ready to riot, ready to undermine themselves with bad legislation or a Constitutional Convention, ready for a military coup (another idiotic idea the elites would enjoy), or they have become despondent and uselessly morose, when all they really have to do is consider that perhaps they should not be so dependent on such an unstable economic structure or political dynamic in the first place.
The real power is in OUR hands, and has always been in our hands. Federal welfare, and the idea of the loving provider nanny state are the great illusions. The idea of barreling head first to topple this soulless machine, though satisfying to consider, is also inadequate. A more rounded strategy is required...
The mindless drive for infinite spending often associated with the “Left” is a recipe for utter fiscal disaster in the form of suffocating liabilities, massive deficits, and a hyperinflated dollar. But,the mainstream Republican notion that there will be no consequences if debt default occurs is equally foolish. I have been astounded by wild assertions from the GOP that American tax revenues will be more than enough to cover interest payments on U.S. debts. There are many conservatives and Liberty Movement analysts that should know better than to use official Treasury Department interest numbers and debt numbers to support their arguments.
Given that the real U.S. National debt including entitlement programs is estimated at around $200 trillion, and real deficit figures stand at around $5 trillion per year, I’m wondering how anyone in their right mind could claim that annual tax revenues of $2.5 trillion (2012 direct revenue numbers) could possibly cover foreign interest payments on top of existing liabilities? A massive piece of flesh has to be taken somewhere, and the U.S. financial system is on life support already.
The no-worries default theory does not take into account the fact that median household incomes have been dropping every year for the past five years, thus continuously diminishing tax revenue opportunities. It does not take into account the massive spike in interest payments that would come with a foreign sell-off of U.S. Treasury debt. It does not take into account the possibility that foreign creditors might refuse to accept payments on interest in U.S. dollars (as creditors refused to take German Marks as payment during their hyperinflationary collapse). Nor does it take into account the eventual loss of international faith in the dollar as the world reserve currency, which would rain havoc down upon the U.S. populace in the form of dollar devaluation and exploding prices on every commodity imaginable. Think this cannot or will not happen? The Chinese are now openly calling for it to happen!
There is a false notion floating around alternative economic circles that a default is caused only by the refusal of a nation to pay the interest on existing debt obligations, and that these debt obligations are somehow static and predictable. In fact, a default also takes place when Treasury bonds (consider the vast sums of short-term bonds circulating in foreign coffers) are unexpectedly liquidated by creditors and the debtor nation does not honor them in full. Greece went through a similar “haircut” process, though the domestic and global effects are limited because they do not suffer the distinction of holding the world reserve currency. The U.S. does carry that distinction, and with it comes danger. America has only defaulted on debt payment once during the time in which the dollar ascended as the world reserve, in 1979. This was a "technical" default the government blamed on an organizational error, and was extremely short lived.
Never has the U.S. gone into full default mode while holding world reserve currency status.
Let’s not delude ourselves, fellow conservatives. There is a steep price to be paid for debt default. I fully agree that mathematical reality requires our nation's government to end it's fiscal spending obsession, and if that means we suffer a painful withdrawal, then so be it. Obama cultists don't seem to grasp that this event is inevitable anyway. However, attempting to gloss over the consequences will only make it easier for the mainstream media to demonize us later down the road as the cause of the coming catastrophe. There is no way around it. There is no magical silver bullet solution to avoid the pain. We will have to take our medicine, one way or the other…
Fantasies of a serene default scenario are luring many conservatives into a false sense of security which distracts them from preparation. Never assume we are destined for the best possible outcome. Always assume the shark circling you in the water sees you as dinner.
Whether the White House gets its way, or no-one gets his way and the whole debacle eventually ends in default (which has been my personal prediction since the debate began). America’s economy will face the same destruction on only slightly different timetables. As I pointed out in my last article, The Possible Outcomes Of The Shutdown Theater, the only conceivable winners will be international banks, who can play the market and bleed it dry based merely on what their politician friends tell the media on any given day, and who ultimately WANT to dismantle the United States, our economy, our sovereignty and our Constitution to make way for a new global financial edifice.
If there is no way for the average American to win this game because the rules have been written by our opponent, then perhaps we should stop playing the game altogether.
This means millions of Americans must actively pursue a more independent standard of living. This means each and every person must learn to provide all of their own survival necessities, including food, water, shelter, energy and self defense. This means growing a well-planned garden and educating one’s self on raising livestock. This means learning a valuable trade skill that is useful and always sought after regardless of the state of the mainstream economy. This means striving for off-grid status and cutting ties to electric, gas, and water utility companies. This means training to keep one’s self and one’s family safe in an atmosphere of violence where state sanctioned law enforcement may not be present to protect you. This means building relationships within one’s neighborhood, town or county that allow for proactive organization without the oversight of government. This means providing your own community safety and disaster response without the aid of FEMA. This means establishing alternative local trade (like a barter market) that is NOT dependent on the Internet or any other government watched and regulated network. This means refusing to follow the mandatory directives of Obamacare. This means removing your children from federally funded and dictated schools. This means divorcing yourself completely from government.
There are those within the Liberty Movement that are working to make it easier for regular people to transition away from the mainstream, providing outlets for education and organization for those seeking more independence through non-participation. My own website, www.Alt-Market.com, is geared towards helping people network for barter and mutual aid at the local level.
Oath Keepers, a Constitutional organization of veterans, currently serving military, police, firefighters and concerned civilians, has just launched its “Civilization Preservation Program.” It is designed to set up highly adaptable training groups across the U.S. who will teach any interested citizens within their community the survival methods needed to endure disaster, whether natural or man-made, as well as how to rebuild as the storm subsides.
If one is dependent on a tyrant, one cannot hope to defeat that tyrant. The reason so many people are afraid of the results of government shutdown and debt default is because so many people refuse to step away from the system. The reason so many people are afraid to fight back is because they have seen the establishment as their source of income for so long. If more Americans were self-reliant, if more Americans were willing to give up free goodies from the state, if more Americans built their own economic foundations, a collapse of our financial structure would be meaningless. We could simply sit back comfortably and let it die, for why would we care about the funeral pyre of a vicious and reckless political/corporate suicide train?
As things stand at this moment, though, the death of the system is not something to cheer, no matter how much we might wish it to crumble under the weight of its own criminality. The collapse of the existing system will not be the end of our troubles, only the beginning. Chaos always opens doors for evil men, and they will certainly take full advantage of the chaos triggered by shutdown, default or continued inflationary debt spending.
We must make ourselves ready to resist by making ourselves separate from the monster we plan to fight. Crisis waits for no one, and on the path our nation now walks, crisis is assured.
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everyone who is not paying thier mortgage is a rebel against fractional reserve banking.
In all the horror movies I've watched what happens to the non-participants? And how do the heroes defeat the evil monster?
One way to interpret this post is to buy locally, but I disagree that it's possible to ignore the government. To change isn't as hard as some think, but takes time and starts with every one of us running and winning local office. Schoolboard, city council, mayor, etc. We can become the status quo.
So long as there are property taxes, it is not possible for many to ignore the government. Be it state, county or local, you cannot ignore that tax man. This means that you need some source of income if you pseudo-own your property. Now, you cannot ignore the IRS. Not to mention that you are probably violating some federal regulation just by farting, at least if some of the molecules expelled cross state lines.
As for the non-participants, well, this isn't a horror movie, as much as it might seem like one. The author of the article is 100% correct. Revolutions, whether peaceful or not, are long drawn out affairs. They often go on long enough to destroy many livers. If there was an armed revolt tomorrow, the pain and suffering wrought upon many by the system breaking down would be beyond nightmarish for the reasons listed.
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On the brighter side, local grower's markets are springing up all around me. A vast majority of what is sold was produced within 50 miles of the markets by locals. Earlier, when I was in a local nursery, I saw some woman with her husband and son in tow wanting "organic" seeds because she didn't trust what was being sold in supermarkets anymore. While it was obvious that her garden was going to be a disaster this year because the guy had to tell her that what she really wanted was heirloom or at least open pollinated seeds (i.e. she didn't know the first thing about gardening,) it was clear that she was doing this because she was losing trust in the system. I have seen many others doing the same. They don't know exactly what's going on, but it is clear that there is bullshit afoot.
For those of you who are interested in growing your own food, you might want to look into landrace gardening.
http://garden.lofthouse.com/adaptivar-landrace.phtml
That guy lives in an 8000 foot mountain vally in Utah, and he is able to grow melons up there. It does not rely on heavy industry like modern ag does. The idea is to breed the plants to be adapted to your climate, your soil and your gardening style through "promiscous" pollination, genetic variety and both natural and artifical selection. If you don't have enough land to do that, you can either look into sharecropping, or collaborate with others who are trying to do the same thing and swap seeds to maintain genetic diversity.
good thoughts, now if you'll excuse me, i need to destroy my own liver right now :)
Tom Servo...
Ha Ha...I see you caught that one too!
Great response.
http://goldtradercommentsaugust2010.blogspot.com/
"There is no way around it. There is no magical silver bullet solution to avoid the pain."
Boris is disagree. Magic bullet is create more REAL wealth, increase productivity, enforce order of law. Russia and China is grateful Obama is win second term so AmeriKa is ignore real solution and lose super power status.
What about greenhouses? Some guy was pitching a hydroponics or something where you had fish and you grew food in this rack type set up. He was charging $39 for a video and instructions.
I've never really looked into the hydroponics thing in depth. That's not to say that it won't work, I just haven't looked into it other than to kind of see what it is. You can get onto all of the earthy type forums that will have people who actually do that stuff and probably save yourself $39 if you want to learn about it. A lot of people are going to be more than happy to freely share the information with you like that guy who runs that website that I posted above. I've had a couple of conversations with him online. It turns out, he used to be a scientist at a national lab who came to the conclusion that the work he was doing was repulsive, and dropped out of the rat race. What he's doing seems to be successful, and he jumps at chances to teach people about it.
I live in a desert, though I do have access to water even without services and electricity. I tend to think that methods that use less water are better for me. Hot and dry with a brilliant sun in the summer is what I have.
Thanks. I think today was pretty much the final warning or chance that maybe things could get better. They are only going to get worse.
I think the final warning was long ago. We missed it. Or at least I did. But hey, well over than $100 trillion (notional) in derivatives stuffed away in FDIC insured deposit taking subsidiaries of banks in the US alone is nothing, right?
Aquaponics is better solution, then hydroponics.
you must be young whistleblower.
Everything you touch during the day is regulated by the government - the sheets you wake up on, the rug or floor you walk on, the house you live in, the air you breathe, the breakfast, lunch and dinner you eat (and if you farm, the seeds and their packaging and any inputs), etc etc etc.
EVERYTHING is regulated - except thought. But speech from that thought is regulated and actions resulting from the speech and thought are regulated.
There is no living outside the government.
Spoken like a true serf...
Yes. It is surprisingly the one area where most at ZH do not understand and/or the one area I am on the opposite side of the majority thinking.
Clothing and other items normally shipped from Europe to be sold in the colonies were boycotted....
Maybe if Americans started pulling the plug on all TV and Hollywood then it might be a start. They use TV to manipulate the masses. If viewership dropped a lot - it would hurt the enemy.
Yep! They don't call it programming for nothing.
I always maintained that ignoring governement will ostracize them from existence.
Then I met Fukuppy.
How do we ignore this out of existence?
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1331431/fukushima-attempt-rebrand-...
Dead or enslaved is the new goal of TPTB.
Two thumbs way up for Brandon Smith. And for Going Galt.
Long live Lady Liberty and her children!
Timothy Leary already set out this path: Turn on, tune in, drop out. Already been there and it's a great place.
Been doing that for decades, but would add to learn the system and kick the crap out of it, everywhere and always. It doesn't owe me a thing and I don't owe it a thing, I don't care if it thinks I do, as it isn't that system that feeds me, it's the infinity that evolved me that provides all. All those royalist commonwealth cunts do is try to tax me, for living on what those state-ist crims merely assert is their 'sovereign territory', so will dominate me like a pack-animal or just kill me off, if they can get away with it. Anyone who supports that system is not right in the head, but alas, the drone-muppet falls for it at almost every turn, and are too spineless to stand apart.
Never really taken part in the system, unless it was unavoidable, or nearly so.
I like to rely on myself and then, if I have anything to spare, I'll help anyone I can that I don't think is scamming me.
I struggle with the insanity of the world daily.
Time to rename it 'Galt-Market Blog'...
Certainly Ghandi and India were prepared to survive without England. And the American colonists were prepared to survive minus England as well. That's how it's done when life becomes intolerable; much to the surprise of the power elite.
How about we do it like the Irish did?
You mean get raped by england for hundreds of years, have a potato famine, ugly women, and a fight to the death between catholics and protestants?
well we already have the raped by england for hundreds of years down. I guess it might wind up a fight to the death between everyone and the jews though.
Didn't someone already try that though?
Yep.
So you know yet you intentionally leave out the resistance movement. Does it scare you therefore you do not want to mention it? Or are you just a troll fishing the waters seeking attention to fill your deficit?
I'll assume the later. How much do you guys get paid? Is it per comment of hourly? Just curious...
If one is dependent on a tyrant, one cannot hope to defeat that tyrant.
If you can say to the USFEDGOV, "I need nothing from you", you win.
better yet, if you can add "and you will steal nothing from me."
Great Article.
Yep, this is what James Howard Kunstler of Clusterfuck Nation has been saying for years. His book, "World Made by Hand" is a great primer. Refusing to participate in the system is the only way back.
yea well except for the facts that he voted for Zero twice, hates southern white folk (or corn po) depends on Amazon.com, the dreaded automobile and air travel for a living, yes he is all about self sufficiency. Burp.
Dammit Brandon, just when I was getting fired up! ;-)
Dual Power
Anarchy, it's time has come, and don't believe the hype.
I fear its too late for non participation as a weapon.The government is too powerful and it's desperate need to conrtol everything is too blatant to ever be stopped. Just like in the ACA, participation will be forced by the end of the gun as it always is in dictatorships. I look around at my fellow americans and I have no hope for this once great country. Yes a few of us will stand up and die fighting this evil system, but all in all, I believe, it will be for naught. The sheeple of this country, like victims of domestic abuse, will only ask for more. Sorry for such pessimism, but hard for me to see a way out.
One of the great things about non-participation is that it's never too late.
The kingdom of God is within.
What if they hold a presidential election and nobody votes for the 2 stooges the Fed gives us?
The Democrats win by default. That's what happens.
Grandpa voted Democrat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vmrVwyPky8
In such an event, The House of Reps gets to decide. In other words...they fuck you either way.
Actually the electoral college would still cast it's votes. This is why a POTUS is sometimes elected without winning the popular vote.........
there, fixed it for ya
Non-participation is the ONLY way. I've been doing it since the mid-90's and everyone thought I was crazy (and still does, I'm sure). Tried to start a "zip-your-wallet" campaign in the mid-late '90's when everyone was starting to lever up w/a re-fi and I was like, "I know where you fuckers work and what you're making, WTF". Nobody wants to hear. Good luck all.
Sounds a lot like preferring not to? Bartelby the Scrivener anybody?
Stop spending. Stop buying any form of insurance. Do not trust any bank with your money. Treat government employees as social outcasts.
"Treat government employees as social outcasts."
Ostracism...another very powerful tool. When they tell you what they do, look at them as if they just said they were professional child molesters, audibly gasp (or wrinkle your nose), then turn on your heal and walk away.
I find myself treating other .gov dependents that way, too.
A lot of people at zh throw a wobbly, for ideological or moralising reasons, when the Tylers put up posts about people taking advantage of Govt stupidity and waste, but bleeding the system dry is a completely valid response. Anyone defending a treasury bottom-line or revenue base in this sytem is not at all serious about the liberty notion, they'd better just go watch NASCAR.
Get over it: The USA is done! Mind you, I have been saying this for over 10 years.
No longer the Land of the Free and the Brave,
the USA is now the land of the depraved, desperate and degenrative; liars all. With a most appropriate "leadership".
Too bad, but we, the rest of the World must move on; You want to know what we think; No need to hack our computers, just ask.
Do we wish y'all ill? Not at all; we hope that you retrieve your sanity, humanity and reason - albeit after you have sated your appetites for torture, genocide, blood sacrife, lying, stealing and shiting on your own door-step.
So continue to play your stupid games, as you will, but by yourselves because now, nobody will play with you anymore:
foxtrot oscar.
http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-78-is-available-The-de-Americanisation-of-the-world-has-begun-emergence-of-solutions-for-a-multipolar-world-by_a14827.html
Ho hum
The American people have two very powerful weapons at their disposal:1) Just quit paying, obeying and playing and 2) firearms.
The US 'system' is so corrupt and so leveraged that it would collapse in a matter of a few weeks if people just stopped paying them/it--they stole it all from us in the first place. The house of card banks would just tumble on down taking the paper-tiger US government with it.
There will still be blood, and that is where the firearms come into play, and the guillotines.
The Four Rs
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying , quit playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: Is there really any place for these sociopaths and criminals in a restored civil and Constitutional society?!
Restoration: Restore the Constitutional republic.
Call your employer's payroll administrator and ask them to stop withholding from your paycheck. See how far you get on that call.
There is a reason why ADP controls the majority of the paychecks in the country.
This is all well and good as an exercise in Pie in the Sky Idealism. The 100 million or so members of the perpetual dependency ( the free shit crowd) will Never understand this concept. When EBT cards and Obamaphones quit working, there will be utter chaos. Despite all good intentions and preparations, getting your family to the other side of that is going to be as much about luck as skill.
Agenda 21 planning schemes, attempt to concentrate people into mega cities with higher density living arrangements. Forcing people to be less self sufficient and more dependent on government provided services.
Contrast this with rural or village living where people have larger gardens and can access local produce markets and live more independently.
Opposing mandatory high density living at the local level is one way to create awareness among others and exercise effective resistance in a constructive manner.
While you're not participating the elected official is turning into a dictator. Then your nonparticipating ass is dead.
If you are paying one cent in tax, you are participating. True nonparticipating is essentially living in a cabin in the woods with your own water source and energy that doesn't hit any part of the grid.
In the late 1700s it was possible to not participate and starve the beast. England was dependent on the revenue from the colonies to finance the Empire. It wasn't exactly easy to collect from some guy sitting on a farmstead in Ohio.
Try to not pay your tax today and a collector will be at your door minutes after the deadline. One day late on a utility payment and there is already a guy there shutting of the water.
The modern system was designed so the only way to overthrow it is by force. And that's why there is a billion rounds sitting in the government's reserve.
If the collector comes and nobody saw him come, or knows what became of him, or knows anything at all really, especially about the collector, then that could be construed as non-participation as well.......
So when the guy(s) comes asking if you saw the collector/agent, and you say no.....is that when you tell your friends to come over to help disappear the guys who came for the first guy?
It's akin to a reverse stasi/secret police east german KGB come take you in the middle of the night kinda thing.
Love it!!!!!!!!!
The author forgot the default of 1971, where Tricky Dick Nixon took the dollar off gold for good. Just because you don't want to call it a default doesn't mean that it isn't...
perhaps it's time to start making it physically dangerous for people to work for a TBTF bank...in any capacity whatsoever.
interpret that as you will....
WIthdraw your sanction. They need your assent and participation more than they care to admit. Dont give it to them. They need you, but do you do not need them.
Withdraw your consent to be governed. DO NOT VOTE. It only encourages them.
They have a gun to your head - pay taxes and survive. But do not consent to be governned by murderers, theives, and thugs.
So only the people who agree with the system vote?
Not sure how that helps...
There will be internal conflict, a civil war of sorts.
Whenever I see something valuable here:
http://www.govliquidation.com
I purchase it.
Look at the 1992 BMY 5 ton 6x6 on there right now. It'll move men, weapons, food, water and they are giving it away.
Be prepared and take control.
Over.
Great article, but impossible to adhere to.
The trick will be having the discipline to stick to your guns.
When your kid needs hospital care and you have cancelled your insurance (or used it up) and you want to go get free ER care, what will you do.
When your crops and those of your group, go bad and you want to stop at the FEMA Soup line, what will you do?
It is a tough path, because the vast majority of Americans did not pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, regardless of what they say..... No friggin way. Most are just dime-store cowboys playing John Wayne
A good article that will steady the nerve of true patriots for the long fight ahead. Blame is for losers who will kill each other, rather than aim at the root of the problem.
The solution is more important than our current distress. Long live the Republic, only currently distressed, and needing to remember how to win, rather than acquiesce to international financiers who have always hated competition, and the USA in particular. The Constitutional Republic, the shining alternative to their paper promises and sociopathic monarchies and other tyrannies of their design, now accelerating as they shift their core assets from West to autocratic East, with gold and silver suppression as a gift to their new world order.
Article is bullshit. On the one hand it argues that to wish or wait for the house of cards to fall is for amateurs. Then on the other hand the country has never defaulted on its debt. It's here where you have to stop reading because technically spending $85B/month mopping up shitty debt with freshly minted FRNs is unequivocally fucking defaulting on your obligations. So lets end the charade and recognize the FED for what it really is - a wealth redistributor. And I for one see no point in waiting around another 10 years as this author suggests to apply just the right force at the right time to effect change. The bond market will effect the change and it will be most immediate and it will surely not wait for consent from some group of revolutionaries giving some kind of "all clear" to pull the trigger on a system of liars and cheats. More bullshit arrogance from some ass clown that has no clue what the fuck they are talking about.
It is possible to be well-meaning, thoughtful and capable of formulating and communicating an idea without having considered the likelihood of actual scenarios. Your comment about the bond market is correct. The question is whether it will be a controlled demolition (not in the timing) in that the weak points and fault lines will have been pre-established through provisions such as living wills for banks and financial funeral pre-arrangements as called for by Draghi this week. Such pre-configurations do determine a) where the financial structures will collapse, b) whether that collapse is entirely unexpected (1987, Lehman moment) c) expected and helped along (as in a debt ceiling administrative time-frame or Cyprus bail-in) or d) "pulled" in the sense of a building 7 metaphor which is what will likely occur with say Social Security or pensions.
It's only natural to want to do something about it by joining a group such as Oathkeepers, but with the internet both controlled and observed participants are subject to government oversight. You can go off grid and distill things down to pretty much paying property taxes but is that practical for anyone who has or wants a family and doesn't care to be isolated. You can run for local office in hopes that state and local agendas are not imposed from above, but those hopes will be dashed quickly when the directives comes down from everyone from your State Governor to the United Nations.
From a personal standpoint rather than putting my trust in Oathkeeper or Isolation (assuming you have to make a choice), I put my trust in Isaiah 9:6. If you ask me all roads lead to a one world government and a number for anyone who wants to buy or sell. Are we called to frustrate that process for example by paying cash instead of using credit cards? It could be just as easily argued that paying cash and abandoning credit supports the transfer of wealth from west to east as the gold and the leverage it enables moves through Hong Kong and out of western reach.
Not everyone has the same job and no two people are exactly alike and I would suggest that anyone's role in this drama is determined between them and their Creator on a daily basis. From a practical standpoint, it may sound nuts, but I found that simply taking high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated vegetable oil and processed foods out of my diet entirely changed my purchasing patterns and the companies I was supporting. Also, making fresh green juices from locally grown produce made me stronger, healthier and less dependent on any forms of managed health care.
I was in line the other day at the bank with the manager from a Waffle House restaurant. He had this bag of money and was explaining to me how Waffle House pays its employees in cash (of course with taxes taken out), but he simply takes in cash receipts, stores a portion of them in the safe in the store and pays the employees based on payroll reports that are emailed from the home office and the employees sign a cash receipt. This may sound like a small thing, but it is a huge and wealthy company who is effectively bypassing the Fed relative to all of its employee compensation and thereby undermining the Fed's ability to empower other arms of government claims to access its employees "wealth" (if you can call a Waffle House employee wealthy).
This is an example of a private treasury at the small company level which would undermine issues such as the capital controls announced yesterday by JPMorgan relative to charging small businesses for cash handling deposits and limiting wire transfers. Sure, you would need a safe and there is risk of theft, but there is also measurable impact on the system through these type of configurations.
Will it make a differernce? Everything makes a difference. Brandon writing about it makes a difference. Oathkeepers doing their thing makes a difference. Someone agreeing or disagreeing makes a difference. The thing about consciousness is once you have it you can't take it away. I'm involved in a lot of businesses and projects and now that I know how a company like Waffle House with tens of thousands of employees handles their payroll I will always think about it differently. Many of the businesses I have been involved have utilized ADP for those administrative functions. I know see how savvy those two old guys at Waffle House really are and maybe just how they came to be the largest seller of orange juice.
www.tradewithdave.com
It's good in that electronic shut downs won't harm the business near as much as others but it's still Federal Reserve Notes so meh, there's only so much protection one can provide.
Rome was a constitutional republic. That didn't work out too well.
Time for Project Mayhem to commence.
The myths of America are dying. Civil liberties are protected by our courts. The media would report court and government corruption. Investigative reporters like Bernstein and Woodward will save us.(Bernstein and Woodward were just printing what the acting head of the FBI gave them) The police protect us (who protects us from the police). There's a free market. The stock market is an honest market. Obamacare is cheaper and will provide better service for all. The Republicans stand for something opposed to the Democrats. Banks are safe. There are so many more. Doubt begins slowly and then overwhelms.
Here is an alternative thought.
What about just quitting and all of us getting on the gov tit? We would collapse the system. Just a fun thought.
The main problem with this article (although I agree with much of it) is that evil is aggressive....always has been.....always will be. Evil will not sit in the corner of the room and leave you alone. That is a fundamental characteristic of our government, as its evil grows it becomes more and more aggressive to the point you cannot get away and be independent. The system is like a giant vacuum that sucks you in on many fronts. At what point do we tell evil to get the hell out of our face or suffer the consequences? What is the line? I think it is time we get together and draw that line so we will ALL know when it has been crossed. We need leadership to help establish that line and I cannot find it ANYWHERE in D.C. No, not even Rand Paul or Ted Cruze has the moxie to be that kind of leader. That is the difference between the founders and so-called leaders today. Today, the wannabes TALK about what the founders DID. It took a fight to give us the Constitution and it will take a fight to maintain it. We lost a major battle in that fight in 1865 but the "war" for the freedom the Constitution offers goes on and will continue until there are no more free minded people in this country.
At some point evil has to be dealt with. That is what the founders came to. I would remind the writer that today things move much quicker than back then. The net is closing and if we don't start taking some real unified action soon the window of opportunity might close for good.
I understand the pessimism of many that posted here for I feel it regularly. It is time to man up and realize the stakes are the ability to govern ones own life and make ones own decisions, i.e. freedom. The cost as we all know, while at the same time ignoring, is EVERYTHING. Freedom is not free. It has been a long time since we have paid the piper. Some things are worth dying for........aren't they?
i started the process 10 years ago, i pay no taxes, i have an obama phone, and im going to get an ebc card. i have a huge stack of gold and silver.
Now this is what I'm talking about Fourchan. Use the system to help prepare for when it crashes and civil unrest happens. I've used $10,000 of student loans to buy gold/silver. I've defered those loans and will continue to do so until default. I won't be paying them back not before it all crashes down.
GI Bill, I've also used extra money from that while in school to help buy guns and ammo. It's simply logic and common sense.
I tell the wife if i lose my job i'm applying for every bennie i can - pride? fuck pride.... if i'm not going to be part of the solution, i may as well become part of the problem...
The thing is everything is so fucked up, money printing, wars, NSA, GMO, FSA, etc etc. It's going to end soon and like this man says;
Brzezinski: "Its easier to kill a million people...than it is to control them"Might as well get all the Bennies you can, there is not turning this Titanic around, It will sink and welp, better be building a lifeboat of somesort somehow.
Monsanto is about to prove that man wrong.
By controlling a vast amount of current & future food supplies you can control a lot of what people will do or can not do.
What about just quitting and all of us getting on the gov tit? We would collapse the system. Just a fun thought.
Like the guys in the black hats and white shirts and black pants and waistcoats?
Yes, most things move much faster today than they used to, which is why it is possible that we could just wake up one morning and the financial system will be permenantly frozen, but not everything moves faster than it did. Learning how to fend for one's self takes much longer than a cascade of failures through the financial system could. In order for what you are talking about to work, there needs to be a critical mass of people who can take care of themselves in the absence of government or even much of the industry that we currently rely on today. There are plenty of people, on the government tit and not, who are challenged when it comes to boiling a cup of water without a microwave, and now we would want them to feed themselves without resturants and microwave pizzas. Not going to happen without enough people to teach them and some serious motivation, as in they might just starve if they don't. Of course, a lot of people would starve anyway, but it would be nice for people with the will to have a fighting chance.
This is the Cloward-Picen plan.
Cloward-Piven
The large cities are fast becoming open air prisons with our every move being cataloged through a variety of mechanisms. The large cities are also fast becoming bastions of all of your garden variety "Isms" so destructive to Liberty. The large cities also supply the votes which keep the free shit army happily gorging on our tax dollars, the politicians in power, and the elite rolling in Benny Bucks. As things progress, the rural sectors of the nation will begin to suffer as the FedGov denies services of all kinds due to manufactured shortages and or punitive measures meant to 'encourage' people into the major cities. Healthcare, education, jobs, energy, food.....you name it, the government nearly has the only game around, and soon will be. Get out while you can and make certain you can do without many of the "comforts" of the modern world for an extended period should the need arise. It's easy now.........
It's interesting to observe places like Rural England which had a functioning society well before industrialisation - financialisation.
It would be easy to imagine rural village life just simply taking up where it left off. Tiny villages, everything within walking distance, right next to productive land and water.
The only things that are missing in many cases is the skill- set of those people living there.
Perhaps England will be first to rise from the ashes after all ???
You Sir are a Tory :)
If you define Tory as being for "God King and country"
Then you are wrong.
To paraphrase. Patrick Henry
" Give me liberty or give me death"
Washington and us the taxpayers is like an anology where your once beautiful wife over time has become a diseased meth hooker, but you still live together, and you decide to protest her hooking habits by becoming amish and chaste but still live together. Congress, and Obama are a diseased hooker that has become so diseased and corrupted in so many separate and entertwined opaque ways, that it is past marriage counceling.
Then Hillary barges into your living room and informs you, 'We should have a conversation about vaginal discharge.'
With the snook in her snizz, that's going to be one hell of a discharge.
The FSA is growing bigger by the day. When it reaches a majority in this democracy, it's over for good. The FSA will defend the hand that feeds it with all the vigor it can summon. In the end, you will either be with them or against them, and the majority will rule.
They re-elected Obama, didn't they? What more do you need for proof?
yes, disengage from our enemy, the state, as much as possible. Hopefully, helping to starve it to death a bit sooner. When the ussa and all the states, counties and cities collapse in a heap, maybe enough people will be wise enough to understand the agony of the collapse will be because of what the state did to make society dependent upon the parasite. Then it will be possible to prevent government beyond the Jeffersonian ward from being reborn from the ashes. Preserving any level of governmemt beyond the ward, no matter how limited, is simply sentancing future generations to a repeat performance of this failed experiment. Only at the ward level can there be enough control of government by the people to sufficienly limit the corruption and tyranny of the power seekers. Beyond that, there is only a repeat performance of our enemy, the state.
Besides revolution you need a way foward and I believe this is a good basis for a template.
RON PAUL: THE TEN PRINCIPLES OF A FREE SOCIETY
1. Rights belong to individuals, not groups; they derive from our nature and can neither be granted nor taken away by government.
2. All peaceful, voluntary economic and social associations are permitted; consent is the basis of the social and economic order.
3. Justly acquired property is privately owned by individuals and voluntary groups, and this ownership cannot be arbitrarily voided by governments.
4. Government may not redistribute private wealth or grant special privileges to any individual or group.
5. Individuals are responsible for their own actions; government cannot and should not protect us from ourselves.
6. Government may not claim the monopoly over a people’s money and governments must never engage in official counterfeiting, even in the name of macroeconomic stability.
7. Aggressive wars, even when called preventative, and even when they pertain only to trade relations, are forbidden.
8. Jury nullification, that is, the right of jurors to judge the law as well as the facts, is a right of the people and the courtroom norm.
9. All forms of involuntary servitude are prohibited, not only slavery but also conscription, forced association, and forced welfare distribution.
10. Government must obey the law that it expects other people to obey and thereby must never use force to mold behavior, manipulate social outcomes, manage the economy, or tell other countries how to behave.
One thing if you bother to read bylaws concerning both political parties they prohibit political lithmus tests and that includes the Tea Party. If we are going to fight back we need to have one to try to weed out the imposters and saboteurs that slide in to corrupt and co-opt these sort of things to destroy or pervert them to some else's agendas. I am still trying to think of what they should be but strict adherence to legal and moral social contracts like the Constitution probably is one of them.
So few understand what the "constitution" is, or, more importantly, what it is not. Check out "No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority" by Lysander Spooner. Free at Mises.org
I'll give it a read. My opinions change and evolve as more information is thrown into the mix. My point is we need a basic templete and lithmus test we can by and large agree upon that accomodates as many people and diversity of opinions but still keeps it focused towards a common goal like Ron Paul's idea of a free society and it's principles.
My personal opinion is social contracts are not sacrosanct and are only ultimately only as good the individuals who serve as the counter parties to any such contract. There is always room for improvement and revision as new facts are brought into the mix but the general direction doesn't need to change.
The people who rebelled against the British were hardened from pioneering the new world, killing Indians, and basically surviving in harsh conditions. The exact OPPOSITE of today's American couch dwelling ignorant vegetable. There will be no revolution here, nothing even close. The American house plant will bite the pillow as the elite come in dry. And they will sit idly while the same happens to their children. They will be farmed like animals. And when there's nothing left, the elite will boil the fat from their flesh to fuel their armored limousines. And the sheep plant people will love them.
Bring it on city boy...
Likewise...Bring it. The good ol' boys down here may not look to be the brightest, many of 'em - but pity the fools who underestimate 'em.
Even farm animals occasionally
1 break down barriers and fences
2 raid the storehouse
3 trample and gore the poor farmer
4 escape into the woods
5 generally make the farmer tear his hair out.
Don't write off the sheeple while they are still breathing!
The ELITE of the 1700's 'won' the revolution because the British were too busy to save their golden-goose, .e.g. India, and China, ... the OPIUM biz.
Had the British not been running 'thin' they could have easily subdued the hair-lips in the USA.
Today the USA is controlled by the world's most ruthless policeman in history.
Even Hitler never killed German women for driving the car's near the Reichstag. Today Obama has the MSM under such control that they can kill any citizen, and then report that citizen as 'crazy' and call 'child abduction' as 'saving the child'.
Make NO mistake that those who choose to remain in the USA, will seen death not seen since the INQUISTION, in fact it has already begun. Prison rape using animals has already begun in US prisons. Just like Hitler did ( Shirer 'rise and fall of 3rd reich' ), but the USA will take all of Hitler's MOST evil shit to a far higher level.
The ORWELL versus HUXLEY model, ORWELL by FEAR, HUXLEY by drugs and sex,... its clear by the scope of the police state and the cry by the RIGHT that the USA will be controlled by ORWELL, e.g. by RAPE, and MURDER.
And who was it that sucked France and Spain into that war? That's right, we played a big part in starting a world war back during the beginning of this country. Of course, there was already bad blood between all of the parties to begin with, but we sure as shit agitated it to our advantage.
What we need right now are useful ideas and proposals to fix the problem instead of fucking whining about it. Face it, our future is not bright, no shades required. How 'bout instead of giving $85 Billion a month to the bastards who in turn charge Americans 13-30% interest on such things as credit cards, furniture, cars, etc., we cut a check for that amount divided by household. That's right, just give the money to the people if you want to stimulate the economy. Until the people get the money, nothing is going to happen that hasn't already, duh!
That's a great idea. It will give the new money a lot more velocity right out of the gate. Then the hyperinflation can happen sooner. The collapse of the dollar can then take down the sociopaths who call themselves usa and we will have the opportunity to be rid of our enemy, the state.
Cheer Cheer ON
Get my hopes up, not
This system will only kill itself, and the entire WORLD will cheer,
The person who wrote this OP, ... is just plain wrong,
Not nobody going to miss the you USA, when it gone.
But the system is NOT even close to dead, ... its just gone FULL-RETARD ( I dare say FULL NAZI ), so let's not declare the USA 'DEAD', until after they get their asses kicked post WWIII.
Spot on. Hopefully the sheeples taste for war has soured enough for a complete economic collapse to happen without WWIII. That will be the opportunity to finally rid ourselves of our enemy, the state.
Legitimate Revolution for What? A stock broker at 'alt-market'?
1.) There is nothing worth saving in the USA
2.) Everything that could be stolen has been stolen
3.) Those that stay will be either COP or CONVICT, the rich have already bailed to greener pastures.
4.) For any group that win's the revolution, they will simply take over the current fascists,
5.) Good Men don't even go near government and never have
6.) Fight for fucking WHO?
7.) Far better to let the FBI, CIA, DEA, NSA .. MIL, DHS all kill each other in their turf wars. Just sit back and watch from afar.
In summary the USA back in the 1700's was a RICH nation, rich in lumber, gold, and oil. Today its all gone. Nothing fucking worth fighting for.
Get out of dodge while you can.
Given that 'Dodge' is planet earth, good luck with that.
Idk about the correct force at the correct moment, they almost lost.
I'd like to say everyone should stop paying their taxes and mortgages - but we know that won't happen. Too many feel the call of duty.
But what you can do is bleed this fucker dry. Do whatever you can to get some sort of government benefits. If you are on medicaid try to run that bill up as high as possible.
Wherever possible try to stiff Uncle Sam (who's really just a dirty fucking old man who wants to give you a rogering anyway) with as many bills as possible.
Do the same with corporations - run up costs to insurers wherever possible - nothing is too small.
These suggestions may be distasteful to many but they are necessary because WE MUST DESTROY IT TO SAVE IT
As long as the topic is "well, what now?", i thought I would mention the Free State Project. It's a libertarian idea, the idea being that if a bunch of libertarians relocated to a small state (New Hampshire), they would have sufficient weight to enact libertarian laws, and so live a happier, more prosperous life.
Personally, i'm still living in California, because i make good money here and the weather is nice. I guess i'm coming down on the side of "Enjoy the Decline".
Yeah me too. I know I should move to a red state at the very least. I'd leave for another country, but I still don't find one I like any better. Beam me up Scotty.
"This means millions of Americans must actively pursue a more independent standard of living. This means each and every person must learn to provide all of their own survival necessities, including food, water, shelter, energy and self defense."
this would mean "get out of urban conglomerations", wouldn't it? but the current trend is urbanization, with 50% of the whole world now living in cities, and the American urbanization process overtaking for the first time Europe
don't get me wrong, I sympathize. noble thoughts, independently from the fact that Adolf Hitler advocated the same
yet I can't hide that I see in those words the old, old anguish of the uprooted countryside man feeling exposed in the by it's very nature more "socialist", or, better, "statist" city, made murkier by the phenomenon of SubUrbia, which is urban but feels, or tries to feel "countryside"
and if you succeed? let's say some 40-50m American conservatives find a way to get back to small farms? perhaps by wrestling away farmland from the Great American Agro-Business MegaCorporations? do the great cities go away? or do they just get replenished by immigrants? sometimes I get the impression that the biggest socio-politic drama in America is that it appeared so vast and endless for small farmers... until they could not go further West
meanwhile, if it's indeed only the cities which produce the American Empire, they would still produce it, a great storm which many American conservatives prefer not to see, from their exceptional location of being in the very relatively calm eye of it
"In fact, early Americans employed economic tactics against their enemy long before they picked up muskets and powder. British imports were turned away or destroyed. Clothing and other items normally shipped from Europe to be sold in the colonies were boycotted, while colonists began producing all of their own survival necessities. They refused to participate in the system that was designed to enslave them and this gave them a foundation on which to launch their eventual fight for liberty. Without efforts in economic independence, the American Revolution may not have ever taken place."
yes. a lot of the national economic policy requests driving the American Revolution was about tariffs
which the USA raised. and so emancipated herself from the globalization empire that was dominant, at that time
so much that the federal budget was financed nearly completely by those tariffs, and personal taxation was very low, bordering on the inexistent
but that's not the current situation. which is the whole of "Oceania" squarely behind globalization, as if the revolution never happened
ask the average Oceanian, be American, British or Australian: "do you favour free trade?" the answer is almost unanimously a resounding "YES"
There you go again with your Euro-trashing slights on colonials.
Trade is trade. Any other smug verbiage you want to attach is about something other than trading real stuff.
All other crap is politics of govts getting what they want, access, employment, tax, terms, exchange settlement, influence, protections from default, or failures to deliver, piracy, IP, standards, insurance, physical security, etc.
Australia actually tries to stick to free-trading principles, when others don't, or simply won't. We pay the competitiveness price for bothering to do it. It pisses us off to be undercut by trade cheats.
We also floated a currency and don't monetize the debt, when so many trading partners do - massively. We pay the competitiveness price for that too. And that really pisses us off.
We exchange food, real minerals, materials and energy, for fucking fiat. We have almost but not quite zero national gold reserves ($42 billion AUD last I looked) and all that gold is in London. So we have zero gold, because that will never be seen again if we do not sell it.
So we went all in on the free-trade and fiat-express, and we played the game, and didn't cheat.
If that's an intellectual problem for you, or you want to look down your nose at us for it, go get fucked.
element, did you read my post at all? yes, you "went all in on the free-trade and fiat-express, and we played the game, and didn't cheat"
so? I'm writing about the economics of the American Revolution. and the fact that the early American Republic exited the "Oceanic" free-trade-club and "hid" behind quite substantial tariff barriers, only to re-join the same club later
do you have an intellectual problem with that? I'm not aware of looking down my nose at anyone
"your Euro-trashing slights on colonials" - evidence, please. otherwise I have to think that you don't even understand my avatar and that - in a very colonial fashion - you assume that Europe is wholly British
the UK is in the half-hearted process of thinking of exiting our club, remember? because they don't fit. which goes back to the difference between utterly free and unlimited/unrestricted global trade or not. and might even result in Scotland leaving the UK and joining us, another headache of galactic proportions
next time you are in Britain, note that they have already started to exchange the word "continental (europeans)" with "europeans", plain and simple
I already new they were doing that. Look, you've said mind-blowingly arrogant and stupid things about colonials in the past, that have annoyed me, but I'll let that go for the sake of current and future conversations. Frankly I found Mediocritas's comments more interesting in the other thread, and yours quite watery. Most of the time I can't figure out what the heck you're struggling to get your head around. Just saying.
please give me a hint, in future, then I'm quite at loss, at the moment
"ask the average Oceanian, be American, British or Australian: "do you favour free trade?" the answer is almost unanimously a resounding "YES"
I think you presume too much, the average Aussie is smart enough to realise that "free trade" is a rigged game that favours big players over small. When a processing plant can import peas from New Zealand and land them cheaper than a farmer just down the road can produce them. That is not what I call "free trade" that's simply arb'ing the different exchange rates.
Once again the farmer is screwed!
The Parasite of Fiat currency is eating the host of the "free market"...
square that with element. this reduction to the whole affair of free trade not having any consequences except if paired with fiat currency is exactly what I'm trying to point out as absurd
free trade has a lot of hidden costs and causes lots of disruptions, and the liberal Oceanic Empire is the great master of not wanting to see it or talk about it. it's a cultural preference, imho
Not so, we have been talking about the floating exchange rate problems and trade quite a lot, especially since 2007. You think we are blind to it, and we are not, we discuss it at length.
We don't print. Why is that? Because we have no gold, we need the AUD to stick around when others fail, and I don't think that's going to work.
It may well be a cultural preference, it's like shooting the messenger because the actual truth would make so much of the sunk cost of society instantly obsolete.
People spend their lives believing and fighting for something that on paper seems like " the right thing to do". "Free trade"
Then when someone one tells them after 20 years that it was all based on a lie, (fiat currency) what do you think the reaction is going to be?
People need time to absorb the truth that there is a voracious parasite feeding on modern society and that it is hidden from view within a thin veil of smoke and mirrors. Our best and brightest have been tricked into working for fiat currency's best interests for many years, and simply are not ready to face the truth.
@Poor Grogman. Free trade may actually work if the world employed an honest currency. A slippery fiat system has encouraged a bloated financial system in the creation of a web of deceit.
@Poor Grogman. Free trade may actually work if the world employed an honest currency. A slippery fiat system has encouraged a bloated financial system in the creation of a web of deceit.
Dup
Exactly, it demands scaling-up and absorbing small competitors, especially if you are playing the free-trade game and others aren't, whilst they're now also debasing, even as hot-money flows in due to the USD and Euro systems dieing.
So 'american'.
The non participation option is long gone for 'americans'
'Americans', as shown multiple times, are the system. They carry it with themselves.
They cant opt out. They cant refuse to participate.
In the world, current date, people who could try a non participation system, are not 'american'.
Of course, 'americans' have shielded themselves against that possibility.
Wont happen.
Chinese citizenism citizens love to placate their own nature, which is eternal, to the rest of human kind. Their system favours jealousy, greed and whole and therefore promote easily human beings who are naturally greedy and envious.
It does not mean that all human beings are like them. Human nature is much and can not be sumed up to Chinese citizenism citizens eternal nature.
Free Tibet!
Ah, freedoms... Another 'american' invention.
'Americans' can measure various levels of freedom and in diverse degrees.
This allows them to play the empty game of pitting one socalled freedom against another freedom, among all those freedoms...
'Americans' know one thing for sure:inventing new patterns of consumption.
The only value in an 'american' contribution is that it increases consumption.
The 'american' article is no different. No ideas in it. Simply an increased consumption.
More Chinese citizenism citizenish gibberish.
As to people clinging to the false equivalence between production and consumption, maybe time to admit that their propaganda is too cheap to endure.
Free Taiwan!
The fabled past, as crafted by 'americans', usually leads to those fantasies they own the secret of.
'Americans' have always been addicted to government, to the State.
The Founding Fathers were addicted to the State.
No State in those days were as big as the State now offered by current 'american' societies.
The King's State was far from that.
But 'americans' need to elude that fact because they would want to picture their founding fathers as non pro States. And more than anything, they want to ignore that 'americans' eradicted stateless societies.
That is the big blind spot 'americans' want to preserve.
We have here another Chinese citizenism citizen trying to make up for his fabled past vision.
Chinese citizenism citizens are unable to keep a line of thinking, they constantly need to turn the tables to meet their pre set conclusions.
Somehow, it is funny how Chinese citizenism citizens can not control their nature. Other Chineses human beings manage to achieve a kind of control over their nature.
Chinese citizenism citizens can not control. They are like an incontinent, they can not help themselves.
Free John Corzine
I dunno, what are you trying to say? Fight the long fight? Fight the good fight? What you're saying is the good guys stand no chance in the forseeable future. Lay back and enjoy it? Try to get to the front of the parade and cheer louder for the crap?
Let October 16 be our Dependence Day!
Joining the birthdays of ... nobody very appropriate that I can see, and what could be more appropriate than that.
No. If proto 'americans' started to raid produced goods, it was because the 'american' revolution had nothing to do with freedom, but was spurred by economical disputes.
Another 'american' who would want to sell people who engraved in their constitution the right to own people providing labour or service as proponent of freedom.
You know, the kind of slavery is freedom figure of speech 'americans' have revealed as specialists.
One notorious difference with the King and 'americans': when raiding ships to spoil the tea cargo, 'americans' disguised themselves in Indians so that the blame could fall back on Indians if things turned sour.
In this 'american' age, an equivalent would be to disguise as muslims.
Ouch, bad idea. Anyone disguising as a muslim wont make it. That person would be arrested, gunned down before reaching goal.
The King tyrant was yet too tolerant by 'american' standards.
If you want to run efficiently an extortion, farming scheme, go and see 'americans', they know their stuff.Better than anyone else in human history.
Waooooo. Speaking of fabled past...
AnAnonymous Chinese citizenism citizens are duplicitous. They hide their real goals between false pretexts. Easier and easier to expose as the Chinese citizenism propaganda is growing cheaper by the day.
End the fabled past addiction.
Freedom is an economic pursuit & issue though the blind hypocrisy of demanding freedom while keeping slaves is shameful.
Hold these punks - who presume to be your masters - in righteous contempt. Everything else will follow.
Are the vast majority of readers here really "conservatives"? What would you be conserving? If anything I'd say the "let it burn" and "gold, bitchez" comments aren't very conservative, and are very common, because revoking the current system instead of conserving it is what's best in the long-run.
That being said the article itself still was very good.
Migh I suggest these youtube channels in regards to learning to garden and/or other prepping skills:
engineer775
wranglerstar
ldsprepper
Everything is choice.