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Tea Party Blasts Boehner "The Senate Deal Is A Complete Sellout"

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While the House looks set to vote for the Senate bill and kick the can just a little down the road, the Washington Post reports that at least one tea party group is calling for Republicans to hold their ground.

"The Senate deal is a complete sellout.  Speaker Boehner and the House should stand firm and reject this deal to reign in the executive branch’s power before it is too late,”  


-Tea Party Patriots head Jenny Beth Martin said.


“The House ‘leadership’ must stop playing ‘flinch’ with themselves, and instead, play hardball with the White House, the Senate, and the House. Otherwise, hard-working Americans are going to bear the burden of this unaffordable law (Obamacare). The American people will hold those responsible for this mess accountable.”


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Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:40 | 4061279 jrpuffnstuff
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Let the voters vote out every single incumbent.  While it won't make a difference, at least the existing assholes don't get a front seat to power.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:44 | 4061304 SpykerSpeed
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It's nice to have them all under one roof, though.  Convenient.  For purposes.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:46 | 4061322 Boris Alatovkrap
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You are suggest of...?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:50 | 4061352 JPM Hater001
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What the fuck are you going to do, vote for another Republican?

“The House ‘leadership’ must stop playing ‘flinch’ with themselves, and instead, play hardball with the White House, the Senate, and the House. Otherwise, hard-working Americans are going to bear the burden of this unaffordable law (Obamacare). The American people will hold those responsible for this mess accountable.”

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:57 | 4061389 WayBehind
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Republicans have no balls these days. What a shame

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:59 | 4061399 LetThemEatRand
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You have to believe in something and then fearfully fail to do it in order to be called out for having no balls.  These guys have huge balls.  They sit there all day and lie to your face that they want to do anything other than enrich their banker owners while they consistently and unfailingly act in a way that makes clear who they really work for.  That takes balls.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:03 | 4061425 A Lunatic
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We have to string everyone along and then fuck it all up at the last minute so we can see what's in it...........

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:10 | 4061466 JohnnyBriefcase
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Lol why would they want to reign in the executive branch?
It'll be the (pseudo)republican's turn next (s)election.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:27 | 4061563 FeralSerf
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He who has the reins (aka the puppet strings) reigns.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:40 | 4061650 Rentier
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exactly 110% sellout!  Bunch of worthless cowards.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 15:13 | 4061792 CH1
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Time to walk away from the game.


Wed, 10/16/2013 - 16:49 | 4062271 General Decline
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I have at least mentally walked away from the game you speak of. There is peace in doing that, I assure you. Working on physically walking away next.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:52 | 4061363 SpykerSpeed
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Running in there and tickling them all!  :)

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 17:26 | 4062407 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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Tom Clancy's "Rising Sun"?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:47 | 4061328 Manthong
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I recall a Clancy book -  "Debt of Honor"...

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:03 | 4061415 McMolotov
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I recall Guy Fawkes. Twenty days from now, bitchez...

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 16:40 | 4062237 Winston Churchill
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Thats the anniversary of his utter failure, and his motives were religous.

As a faux Canadian you should know better.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:48 | 4061686 Jumbotron
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As I and many others here have been saying all along......


And the the American Sheeple get nothing but BUKKAKI.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:48 | 4061340 BaBaBouy
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Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:12 | 4061478 Sterling Rod
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I would give my left nut for a direct democracy

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:31 | 4061585 NotApplicable
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Yeah, cuz being a half-nutted slave is so worth it.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:37 | 4061626 Anusocracy
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As long as everyone was an anarchist.

I'd give Hillary's left nut for that.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:50 | 4061696 Jumbotron
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"I'd give Hillary's left nut for that."

OMG !   I laughed and puked a little in my mouth at the same time.  LOL !!

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 15:26 | 4061839 fockewulf190
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No one has said a word yet, but I'm thinking that after the vote, boner is going to resign the speakership.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 18:55 | 4062776 Ain't No Sunshine
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And then boner needs to wipe the cum off his chin.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:49 | 4061690 Jumbotron
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The Mob has already spoken and you've got OBAMA........just think when the rest of them can vote via their iPhone.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 15:14 | 4061797 NidStyles
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I'd ask for morons to be deprogrammed from believing in the garbage they believe in, like democracy being a fair system...

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 15:54 | 4061990 XitSam
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I just had a discussion with a guy about obamacare, and his argument boiled down to "the common good."  So I asked him, if the "common good" requred him to be imprisoned at hard labor for the rest of his life, North Korean Gangnam Prison Camp Style, would that be ok?  He still doesn't understand.  I don't think most of them can be reprogrammed.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 20:08 | 4063005 Hacked Economy
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@Sterling Rod,

A direct democracy is de facto mob rule, you twerp.  That's exactly what the libtards want, and exactly why the Founding Fathers gave us a Republic.  The closer we get to a true democracy over the years, the more the uneducated masses gain the ability to vote via their emotions and demand goodies from Gov (which in turn come from all of us via taxes).

The Senate has become corrupted and subservient to the White House just like ancient Rome, where the Senate was full of people who bowed to Caesar.

The House is the closest level of representation of the people, per Article I of the Constitution.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:49 | 4061348 El Vaquero
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Krugman not withstanding, it's so that the alien invasion may commence.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:05 | 4061437 Miss Expectations
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The Onion does a good job with this:

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:55 | 4061381 Stoploss
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When it becomes a done deal is the perfect time for the tea party separation.

This is a very good opportunity, hope it's not wasted.

It's getting more clear by the week, red and blue make purple, two become one.

Which just so happens to leave room for one more... In a two party system.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:45 | 4061310 Boris Alatovkrap
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Current opportunity search high, low, every where, but could as not find single pair testicle in all congress.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:50 | 4061354 Chief_Illiniwek
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Did you check Ms. Pelosi? 


(You recall the scene from Crocodile Dundee, right? :

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 18:47 | 4062732 Boris Alatovkrap
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You are reference of fish smell? Not testicle, but Boris is really not want more to know. How do you say, "Too much informing?"

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:45 | 4061316 Pooper Popper
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All TRAITORS should Hang!

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:01 | 4061404 vxpatel
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but then we'd be left with no gov't, who would take care of us? 

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 18:49 | 4062749 Boris Alatovkrap
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... but, but, but,... Amerika citizenry is cannot think, who is save from self?! Maybe Amerika is grow new replacement pair, make Cold War fun again?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:06 | 4061444 No Euros please...
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You should use spellchekc more often.

The word is BANKERS.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:42 | 4061659 Chartsky
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No . . . it's BANKSTERS.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:58 | 4061721 SillySalesmanQu...
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Spellcheck does not recoginize nor apply to Hedgese.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 18:52 | 4062762 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris' spell check recognize Fubankster, Furederal Reserve, and Fubama. Oh, and Fukushima.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:48 | 4061329 slaughterer
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Tea Party finds now it is disenfranchised and cannot do a thing to change that.  Lobby groups like Boehner, not them.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:51 | 4061355 Dr. Engali
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They won't. The red team will continue to vote for the red team, and the blue for the blue. Voting only offers them legitimacy in an illegitimate system.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:07 | 4061452 El Vaquero
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I always vote 3rd party, not because I think any candidate I'm voting for stands a chance in hell, but rather as a simple fuck you to the two party system.  It may be meaningless, but it makes me feel better.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:21 | 4061528 olto
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keep voting

it is good for the system

that you are at war with

and it requires no effort

nor intelligence

and it makes YOU

feel  good!!!!

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:32 | 4061598 WarHorse
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You're only sending an FU to the right by doing so  ... there are third party candidates that steal votes from the left

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:55 | 4061374 ShrNfr
Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:30 | 4061541 SWRichmond
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Thanks for the link.  78% of Amricans want to throw out the entire Congress and start over.

We could all just agree to meetup in DC and do that.  Demand they all resign.  Someone pick a day.

Nov 5th?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:29 | 4061575 Bobbyrib
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When people go to the polls they usually don't vote out the incumbents. IMHO, that poll is useless.

Think of it this way: You are a farmer. Your representative is a senior member of the agirculture committee. You know he has the power to help you continue to receive your subsidies. Are you going to vote him out? Look at the House of Representatives Financial Service Committee:

IAre there any representatives from NYC on that committee?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 15:31 | 4061852 rabbitusvomitus
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My problem with this entire debacle is this. It's way past time to to start living within our means, IF the repubs had the intestinal fortitude to hold the line we possibly could blow this mutha up and negotiate REAL change from a position of strength. Instead they all pussied out for fear of "what the rest of world thinks of our irresponsibility in raising the debt ceiling. NEWSFLASH, who the fuck cares what the rest of the world thinks! This is OUR country and it is in dire need of fixing. The former KING DOLLAR will eventually be pushed aside in favor of a new master and then we'll be where we are now, EXCEPT, we'll we will go out with a whimper instead of a bang. 

Rant off. 

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:39 | 4061280 Manthong
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The optimist in me gives hope that three months of the reality of Obamacare might change a lot of peoples minds.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:40 | 4061285 Motorhead
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Of course, then capitalism will get some kind of blame...or the weather...or even Bush.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:44 | 4061302 Manthong
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They can blame Beelzebub himself (Reagan) no matter - as long as they kill that monstrosity.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:45 | 4061318 Spastica Rex
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Reagan died a long time ago.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:47 | 4061333 Boris Alatovkrap
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Ghost of Reagan still is haunt former Soviet Union.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:50 | 4061353 Motorhead
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Gorbachev, too, hehe.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:02 | 4061380 Manthong
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I think my sarc is too heavy for some folks.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:02 | 4061414 Spastica Rex
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No, your demonstratives are just too ambiguous.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:12 | 4061468 Manthong
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It is said that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

If one really needs the hash tag when reading any of my short invectives or oxymorons, one might not be capable of stooping down to my level. :-)

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:12 | 4061473 Spastica Rex
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I'm right there, brother: I've been told that "English teacher humor" is an oxymoron.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:17 | 4061505 Manthong
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Agreed - further; the inability to grovel or demonstrate stupidity is not the fashion or in keeping with the American zeitgeist nowadays.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:24 | 4061549 FeralSerf
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He was brain dead before he was reelected.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:46 | 4061320 Motorhead
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Indeed.  Good luck with that.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:46 | 4061306 Zer0head
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Best you take your sorry ass back to Canada Mr. Senator




Cruz: I Won't Delay Debt Deal ( 9:30 AM PDT)

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:48 | 4061335 LetThemEatRand
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Anyone still think these guys don't all work for the same bankers?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:53 | 4061371 El Vaquero
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Like I said before, Cruz's wife is a squid.  Anybody really think he's going to knowingly do something to jeoperdize her job?  IMO, whether or not he's successful, he's being groomed as a potential POTUS. 

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:53 | 4061368 Spaceman Spiff
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Not sure what a delay will accomplish at this point.  His own side stabbed him just as much as the democrats after the long speech to rally against the cloture vote.  Hell, McCain delivered the dem rebuttal.   


At this point, with so many on your own side against you, what can he achieve?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:57 | 4061392 LetThemEatRand
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I get your point, but this is the same tired excuse we've been hearing for decades.  When your Team sells out, it's always "well, what could they do."   And the voter dutifully goes to the polls the next election and votes for his Team.  Again.  Same result, same excuse the next time Congress/His Majesty fucks the American people, and on and on foreover.

My rule now is to look at what they do.  What is Cruz going to do to try to drum up grassroots support?  Nothing.  Because the truth is that he doesn't really care. None of them do.   Believe it because it's there to see if you open your eyes.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:07 | 4061405 Dr. Engali
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All protruding nails must be beat down. This is why the solution will never come from inside an illigitimate system. Until the people say ENOUGH and take matters into their own hands the charade will keep going.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:05 | 4061440 Spaceman Spiff
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I too get the burnt out mindset on the tired excuse.   I'm not that cynical on the guy because I do not see grassroots support coming around this time with such disinformation going on about default.  There is also burnt out factor from the factions fighting big statist.  I think all the drummed up polls and negative press attention has them in a tactical retreat situation.

I think if he truly did not care, he would not have brought this shit storm on top of himself.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:09 | 4061461 LetThemEatRand
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Maybe he brought up the shit storm to get your vote, knowing what the outcome would be and not giving a shit while saying he did.   I recall Obama screaming about stopping with all the spying and the wars and  so forth and doing the exact opposite, but somehow people say "yeah, but he really wants to do those things and I'll vote for him again because I believe him."

The average person just can't get their arms around the idea that these guys are just lying to their faces.    But keep believin' man.    

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:19 | 4061519 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  The average person just can't get their arms around the idea that these guys are just lying to their faces.

And THAT is the key concept that organizes society.

Most people will believe the bullshit delivered from an authoritive figure.  It's how society is organized.

Govenment + bullshit = politics

Morals + bullshit = religion

Craft + bullshit = spatter art.

The people who create the bullshit add values for themselves.  Lots of value.

Bullshit, ask for it by name!

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:27 | 4061558 olto
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voting is a

nothing option

read what you wrote above, LTER

just more of the same from every day

the same old 'same old'

ALL of US!!!!!

is there not a new idea

somewhere on this board????

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 18:55 | 4062778 Winston Smith 2009
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"My rule now is to look at what they do."

Always what the people who fund their reelections tell the to do. Everything else is just a show for the fools who actually bother to vote for any of them.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:46 | 4061319 FL_Conservative
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What does capitalism look like, since we haven't seen the free market variety in at least 60-70 years?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:04 | 4061433 cossack55
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It looks a lot like Morgan, Carngie, Rockefeller, et. al.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:13 | 4061489 SDShack
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Actually, Carnigie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Ford, all built lasting industries that changed the world and employed millions of people and raised the standards of living for many more millions. Were they totalitarian capitalists that also took advantage of workers and governments?... yes, but at least they provided tangible benefits to millions. JP Morgan on the other hand, did nothing other than manipulate the financing of the titans to benefit himself. He did nothing to benefit the masses, but plenty to enlarge the banking community to enslave the masses. I will take a boatload of Carnigie, Rockefeller, Ford and Vanderbilts over JP Morgans any day if that is what capitalism would look like.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:28 | 4061568 MachoMan
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Capitalism always looks like just how you picture it in your head...  because that's the only place it ever exists.  In the real world, self interest demands conclusions different than capitalism can stand, ergo, capitalism can never be sustained but for short glimpses of time.  Alternatively, one might say you're looking at the inevitable conclusion of the free market...  consolidation of power.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 15:25 | 4061833 CH1
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the inevitable conclusion of the free market...  consolidation of power.

LOL... you learned that in college, did you?

This is fascism.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 15:41 | 4061903 MachoMan
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No, the opposite.  In business graduate school (and an undergrad in business), I was taught to kneel at the alter of capitalism...  That it is the end-all, be-all solution.  [it's kissing cousins with religion].

The reality is that the labels we affix to how self interest manifests itself in our society are of little use.  It's as though because we demand a certain economic system that we can actually impose that system on rational actors.  Fortunately or unfortunately, it doesn't quite work like that.  The labels we give to economic systems are just our love affair with academic concepts, most of which have no place in the real world and do not accurately represent any present state of affairs (they're always ex post facto). 

The paradox of capitalism is that rational actors would never be caught dead participating in a market with perfect competition.  As a result, rational actors seek to avoid competition and collect rent (and corrupt the market regulators).  Perfect competition is never realized, thus the maximization of the efficient use of resources is also never realized.  Further, to a certain extent, capitalism requires an equal starting position and presumes that inherent differences in core competencies do not naturally dictate the conclusion to competition.  I dispute this presumption and, practically speaking, there is never an equal starting point.  The beginning tends to dictate the end.  Capitalists severely underestimate the desire by rational actors to avoid competition.  There simply is no known mechanism to force the competition expected by capitalists.

I'll entertain a cleanest dirty shirt argument for capitalism, but to promote it as some sort of solution to our present ills is to completely ignore history, future, and common sense...

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:46 | 4061323 agent default
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Or even Assad.  Or Putin.

North Korea, Iran... Really the possibilities are endless if the sheep need distraction.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:44 | 4061300 Bad Attitude
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Won't happen. The progressives' answer to a failed progressive program is to double down and do it even harder - even more control and more money. The ultimate goal of the progressives with Obamacare is single payer.

Forward (over the cliff)!

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 15:45 | 4061924 Buckaroo Banzai
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No, the ultimate goal for "progressives" (aka marxists, communists, socialists) is POWER. They will lie, cheat, and steal to get it, and once they have it, people will die by the millions (possibly billions this time around). History is 100% clear on this-- file under empiracally proven fact.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 16:11 | 4062086 Bad Attitude
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I don't think we disagree. Obamacare/single-payer is one dimension of the power/control matrix. I have to wonder when the thuggish gun control push starts again.

Forward (over the cliff).

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:47 | 4061326 Gringo Viejo
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The pessimist in me watches WalMart EBT riots and cleans his weapons.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:56 | 4061385 12ToothAssassin
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I second that

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 21:54 | 4061588 olto
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cleaning your weapons

is meaningless

are you just gonna

do that for the

rest of your life

why don't you try voting?

cleaning your weapons/voting

Oh, boy, these are real serious activities

old gringo is right

-------------------------------------------And thirty minutes later:

wow!!! look at the red!

I guess i am wrong---old gringo--

Oh yeah---now i remember--I left the US because all the people wanted to do was brag about their weapos and talk about politics and there possessions

well, good riddance-----some things never change.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:39 | 4061281 stinkhammer
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Wed, 10/16/2013 - 15:38 | 4061892 olto
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when we can have GREEEEEDOM in capital letters?

talk to that guy from JPM

I'm sure he that will fund it

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:39 | 4061282 Everyman
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The GOP is a bunch or pussyidiots.  There once was a band named "Men without Hats".

The GOP is "Men without Balls"

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:41 | 4061290 Motorhead
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And when they rob our bank accounts, it'll be "Haircut 100".

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:59 | 4061397 Joe Davola
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If only there were a Borstal Breakout to save us from this "Sham 69"

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:42 | 4061294 the not so migh...
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they are pussypaths

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 17:18 | 4061796 olto
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from reading this site

it appears that we

are each and all are

"Men without Balls"

or does whining help?

I would'nt vote for anyone

at zh

and I love the concept of zh!

Later: after three reds--------this is fun

Sorry ladies-----I know that you voted red because you don't have any balls---I apologize, but certainly meant no disrepect.



Wed, 10/16/2013 - 16:15 | 4062106 FrankDrakman
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Here are sample lyrics from Men Without Hats' "Hey Men":

Somebody told me to live is a lie
But I know better got a woman inside
Tells me things that I should understand
'cause I know better even though I'm a man

After that, everyone I know in the Great White North referred to them as "Men Without Dicks".

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:40 | 4061283 bank guy in Brussels
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Was it part of the point of this whole farce, to even more deeply convince Americans that their political system really is hopeless ?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:45 | 4061313 Spaceman Spiff
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That is not a bad result.  Anything that serves to awaken some can't be that much of a farce...

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:32 | 4061595 Abiotic Oil
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I live in a town in Oregon that has been invaded by libtards from Kalifornica in the false left/right paradigm. What I hear is total absolute consumption of the meme it was the big bad republicans causing all the problems and that they are all traitors.

They just can't make the analogy that when their families run up too much credit card debt and the interst is compounding faster than they can pay, the answer is not to get another credit card... Well maybe for them it is...

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 17:16 | 4061908 olto
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Did you dudes finally put in off-ramps?

Don't tell me that Oregon borrowed the money to do it just to bring in those tourists from the south

or did the feds give you the funds?

I haven't been up there in 30 years


later: more reds!

I gave my self a red---it seems that if you don't get the red votes---you really haven't said anything. It is almost as upside down here on ZH as it is the Congress. Maybe, it is tre that you get the government that you deserve.

Keep voting, dudes!

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:55 | 4061370 NOTaREALmerican
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Re;   to even more deeply convince Americans that their political system really is hopeless ?


The Blue Team dumbasses think they won.   They'll be happier than clams and the socialist loot will flow to the corporate leaches regardless of what Team supports the Big-Gov scam they are living off of.

The Red Team dumbasses will keep voting Red Team because - in the end - they think the Red Team will eventually help them get even with "those people".

Red Team Blue Team fight fight fight.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:03 | 4061421 Kinskian
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The real issue is demographics and that is clearly working in favor of the Democrats. Soon there won't be any budget debates.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:25 | 4061557 NOTaREALmerican
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Re;  Soon there won't be any budget debates.

There's no need for a budget with fiat currency.   It's all just Kabuki.   We haven't needed a budget since Nixon.

Re;  The real issue is demographics

When normal people looked around and saw what a great scam crony-socialism was, EVERYBODY wanted in on the scams.

You can't have socialism for some.   Those looting Big-Ag and Big-MIC couldn't keep their scams secret forever.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:32 | 4061602 olto
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there was not

any budget debate


Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:39 | 4061648 Abiotic Oil
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Was it part of the point of this whole farce, to even more deeply convince Americans that their political system really is hopeless ?

They got to push and see who would push back. Who would "just follow orders" and they also got to show off their new weapon of mass destruction, the EBT shutdown.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:41 | 4061286 0b1knob
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Boners sez that the RINOs did not fold.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Ignorance is strength....

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:37 | 4061632 Urban Redneck
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To say that Boehner folded like a cheap lawn chair is an insult to comparatively solid Chicom crap manufacturing.

Instead of dumping cash on the capital floor, someone should get a bunch of urinal cakes made up with with Boehner's ugly mug and place them in all the men's rooms on Capital Hill.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:45 | 4061675 akak
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The only problem with your plan is that the urinal cake manufacturers are limited in their choice of color to red or blue, orange not being an option.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:54 | 4061705 Urban Redneck
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When in doubt, throw money at the problem (isn't the congress-critters usual solution) $9.95ea for anyone who lives in or near DC...

(amazing what you can find with them thar internets)

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 17:28 | 4062411 General Decline
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My avatar is nancy pelosi's face on a urinal cake but I would gladly change it to a Boehner picture if someone would send it to me. I'm not that good with photoshop.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:41 | 4061289 Jethro
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US Politicians are never held accountable for their actions, they merely transition from public office to Lobbyist.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:50 | 4061694 JR
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This is the biggest change Americans, young and old, have seen in their lifetimes. This is Communism and people are going to feel it within days. It's not something from which Boehner, McConnell and the political turncoats can seek protection from their handlers, the Fed banking cartel. They’re up against an angry country that’s finding out who they are.

As for the takers following this man Obama, they are so dumb they’re going to be slaughtered like sheep. Living pay check to pay check, thinking they are going to be getting someone else’s paycheck, they've picked the dictator… and dictators hit the weak.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:42 | 4061295 Sleepless Knight
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No, its not a complete sell out - its SOLD out. Cant go back now.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:43 | 4061299 Its_the_economy...
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Who wants to bet the total dollar value of U S treasury CDS is going to get a lot higher.



Chase, BAC, Citi: WINNING

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:43 | 4061301 icanhasbailout
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Until Congressmen start going home to actual lynch mobs, nothing will change.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:50 | 4061351 NOTaREALmerican
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Lynch mobs?

There'd only be lynch mobs if they actually cut the scams the "world's greatest generation" are all living off of.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:43 | 4061303 youngman
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We lost when Bush would not secure the borders....since then 40 million illegals have come here..and they are here for the freebies...and the Democrats give those out freely....Republicans lose..

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:05 | 4061435 greatbeard
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>> We lost when Bush would not secure the borders..

Bush wouldn't secure the borders to provide cheap labor to corporations, thereby kicking the legs out from under the working class. Score one for the red team guys.

>> ..Republicans lose..

Depends on how you look at it.  If the rich are mostly Republicans, they, in effect, for now, win. Hell, even Obamacare is a big win for Corporate America, which is a win for Republicans.  You guys are getting everything you could ask for in a right wing corporate sell out in Obama, what the fuck are you bitchin' about?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:12 | 4061471 SmallerGovNow2
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There are just as many corporate progressives out there as republicans...  don't be pulled into the R versus D bullshit...

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:20 | 4061524 greatbeard
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>> don't be pulled into the R versus D bullshit...

I've sworn off either team.  I hate them all. I find that I am a one man island adrift in an ocean that used to be my country.

On the positive side, I should get my fall onion crop in in the next day or two.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:35 | 4061614 NOTaREALmerican
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Re;  Hell, even Obamacare is a big win for Corporate America, which is a win for Republicans.

Yes,  something the Red Team dumbasses can't comprehend.   If it wasn't for Big-Corp, we wouldn't have Obamacare.   Big-Corp wants out of paying for the the medical-insurance scam.  Obamacare was just their way off-loading the costs to the taxpayes.

If the Red Team dumbasses actually cared about the EEE-vile of socialism they'd be demanding the corporations get off it too.  

But REAL "Conservatives" just genuflect to the Big-Corp CEO's; who are - after all - so rich and successful that they must be virtuous.

The Red Team dumbasses are just authority worshippers like the Blue Team dumbasses.    Fascists or socialists,  no different,   just stupid authority worshiping dumbasses.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:35 | 4061615 olto
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what do you care?

you left the country

you are there

for the freebies

like me


Wed, 10/16/2013 - 15:29 | 4061829 OneTinSoldier66
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"since then 40 million illegals have come here.."


I think you mean 40 million PEOPLE have come here.


"and they are here for the freebies.."


It's not people that are illegal, it's the freebies. The freebies are what's illegal.


If the illegal freebies weren't here to come for, would all 40 million of those people have come? Is this not at least, an interesting question?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 17:39 | 4062457 General Decline
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I don't blame them. If I lived in that 3rd world shithole, I'd make the swim too.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:03 | 4061307 TomGa
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"The Senate deal is a complete sellout.  Speaker Boehner and the House should stand firm and reject this deal to reign in the executive branch’s power before it is too late,” 


A house divided.....  will eventually end with the losers in a FEMA camp.

"Compromise" with liberals is how we got this deep in the shit to start with.  I now have Zero Tolerance for compromise with Progressive Bolsheviks and their mindless minions.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:22 | 4061538 greatbeard
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>> "Compromise" with liberals

Do me a favor as I seem to be missing it.  You see a liberal is this shit fight point him/her out to me, please?  I fail to see anyone in this thing who's ideals go beyond personal greed.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:45 | 4061309 akak
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Boehners always go soft after making a mess.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:09 | 4061459 SmallerGovNow2
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LMAO....  Thanks Akak!

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 17:46 | 4062481 General Decline
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Seek immediate medical attention for a boehner that lasts more that 4 hours. Or at least try a handjob first.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 17:56 | 4062527 akak
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I'm afraid this bohner has fallen, and can't get up.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:45 | 4061311 Dr. Engali
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Well of course it's a complete sell out. You didn't ereally expect any group without ideals beyond mammon to really take a stand for something they don't believe in do you? Don't be fucking naive.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:45 | 4061312 shovelhead
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Republican Party just became the Whigs.

Shuffling off to irrelevance.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:47 | 4061334 fonzannoon
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are congress and senate still exempted from obamacare? Those humps....

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:47 | 4061325 Kreditanstalt
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"REIN IN"!! not "reign in"...

Too much reliance on the stupid spell-check...


Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:48 | 4061341 Motorhead
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Thought you had Slayer's REIGN IN BLOOD on the mind, hehe.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:47 | 4061327 Spastica Rex
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<- This was a real fight, and my team lost.

<- This was a show, and I wasted my time watching it.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:57 | 4061391 spiral galaxy
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I would go one step further and suggest it was a Wall St deception to get minions to hedge against fiscal discipline and possible default only to get the rug pulled out and money confiscated.  .......e.g, 300 and now 200 point 'rallies'.  Just a bunch of BS.  Total manipulation.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:49 | 4061332 4 wheel drift
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"Grand Old Party"....

indeed....   in need of testosterone....  

pitiful...   enough of this crap...


p.s.  GOP = gored old pussies

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:08 | 4061337 NOTaREALmerican
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Maybe if the angry white guys offered to cut some of their own Big-Gov scams before they tried to cut everybody else's Big-Gov scam, people would take them more seriously.

Git yer socialist hand off my Medicare, I'm ENTITLED to that motor-scooter.

Big-MIC's not socialism, that's an investment in our children's future.

Everybody loves the socialist scam they are living off of:  Duplicity, ask for it by name.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:28 | 4061570 greatbeard
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>> if the angry white guys offered to cut some of their own Big-Gov scams before they tried to cut everybody else's Big-Gov scam,

That is it in a nutshell but it is a point that is avoided at all costs.  I keep hearing over and over how the patriotic tea party is trying to save America, but at the same time they're not willing to cut anything else to get the job done.  If America is worth saving, and I'm not so sure about that, it's worth everyone sacrificing.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:48 | 4061338 Whatta
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<==McConnell biggest sell out

<==Boner Biggest sell out

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:49 | 4061346 Motorhead
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They are both dweebs of the highest order.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:48 | 4061339 gjp
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Why go on about one program of many (Obamacare) when it is the whole damned ponzi scheme, and the Fed above all, that is the problem?  The Tea Party is no better than the rest, intensely partisan and not properly focused on the core isssue.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 14:13 | 4061485 shovelhead
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How do you eat an elephant?


One bite at a time.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:48 | 4061342 Catullus
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So... Sellout boehner. Nominate Pelosi as speaker in exchange for the House Judiciary Committee chair. The democrats will let their minority whip in, you form a coalition caucus, she can't pass anything without, and republican leadership loses all sway for selling you out. With the Judiciary committee, you begin subpoenaing Obama administration officials for fraud and corruption. There's nothing Pelosi can do and you start scoring the biggest victories against the democrats. Clock is ticking. The republicans are going to come after you hard at the beginning of next year for the debt ceiling play. Go all in.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:49 | 4061349 Zer0head
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Can't wait for SNL


Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:50 | 4061350 notadouche
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Boener doesn't have a clue in how to negotiate effectively.  Or perhaps he's getting all he wants regardless of the PR.  It's not that he caved, it's more that having government continue unabaited is in all of their best interest even though it's not in the best interest of the people that these politicians are supposed to be representing.  

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:51 | 4061358 Tsar Pointless
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Still, I ask - has anybody actually heard from John Boenher, aside from his spokesperson, who disavowed any knowledge of any scheduled vote on any rumoured deal?

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:52 | 4061364 Crazed Smoker
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Its what the people want.  With half of Americans left with 1% of the wealth of course they are pressing thier "representatives" for a follow through complete collapse through ponzi debt system.  People don't want system fix, they just want their next fix.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:52 | 4061366 exartizo
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The message I get from the Tea Patsy Representative Ms. Jenny Beth Martin:

"reign in the executive branch's power"



Thanks for that confirmation Ms. Martin.

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