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The Poverty Of The American Political Theater Of The Absurd

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Submitted by Charles Hugh Smith from Of Two Minds

The Poverty Of Our Political Theater Of The Absurd  

The public sphere has been effectively stripped of everything but corny, irritatingly hammy political theater.

All we have left in the U.S. is a deeply impoverishing Political Theater of the Absurd. Policy, theory and governance have all been reduced to competing stage performances in the Theater of the Absurd. The actors are transparently given to farcical overacting in exaggerated dramas drained of meaning; they proceed through the cliched motions as if the audience hadn't seen the same charades overplayed dozens of times before.

"Government shutdown" and "debt ceiling" may have engaged audiences starved for entertainment in a bygone age, but now they exemplify a theater that is so impoverished it can only re-stage tired formulaic dramas with a savage appetite for incompetence and buffoonery.

The poverty of this substitution of theater for actual ideas is best displayed by ObamaCare. The entire complex edifice of ObamaCare is not an expression of policy--it is simply the perfection of state complicity with a private cartel that increases its share of the national income regardless of which set of bad actors are on stage.

As for the alternative "policy," it is nothing but a reversion to the pre-ObamaCare cartel-state arrangement that artlessly combines gross injustice, insensitivity to cost and insane incentives for fraud, skimming, defensive medicine and the pursuit of national chronic ill health as the most profitable state of existence.

That these two variations on state-cartel predation pass for "policy" is a clear indication of the absolute impoverishment of American political/social/economic ideas. We are adrift in a political order that glorifies and rewards overacted farce and punishes policy grounded in actual ideas rather than the theatrical trends of the day.

The public sphere has been effectively stripped of everything but corny, irritatingly hammy political theater. The players, bereft of talent and inspiration, chosen for their blind obedience to those benefiting from the eradication of ideas and the replaying of tiresome charades, are blind to the poverty of their performance and political theatrics.

Will the audience ever tire of this cheesy Theater of the Absurd? It seems the appetite of the American public for this sort of play-acting entertainment is essentially bottomless. As a result, so too is our poverty.


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Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:25 | 4071549 U4 eee aaa
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You can tell you are near the end by the quality of the bread and the quality of the circuses

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:34 | 4071563 TheFourthStooge-ing
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That's why the audience won't tire of the Theater of the Absurd. It's a transitory phase in the descent. The next level is Saturday morning cartoons.

Bhoaner: "Rabbit season!"

Reid: "Duck season!"

Repeat ad nauseam.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:59 | 4071599 SWRichmond
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Mr. Smith,

Excellent, succinct, and spot-on.  Everyone can remember those banana republics we in the US used to laugh at.  Now we are one.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:20 | 4071618 DaddyO
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Cost of loaf of Bread - 1929 ~ $.10 = 1 Mercury Dime

Cost of loaf of Bread - 2013 ~ $1.59 = 1 Mercury Dime

Cost of Circus Ticket - 1929 ~ $.25 = 1 Standing Liberty Quarter

Cost of Circus Ticket - 2013 ~ $20.00 = 1 Standing Liberty Quarter

Things haven't changed much in the theater of the absured from a fiat perspective...


edit: Mike Maloney's addage about PM's always giving an accounting of fiat seems to be holding true, eh?!?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:43 | 4071668 Seize Mars
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Good data. Amazing they have hoodwinked so many for so long.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:58 | 4071689 SWRichmond
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As another entry to the "Theater of the absurd" I would like to add this: while in coastal Virginia in August I happened upon the local newspaper, The Virginian-Pilot, which featured this banner headline on 22 August (recalll the events of that period): "Surveillance Court Says NSA Misled It".  While the casual observer might not think too much about this, being casual, the thinking person's brain reacts at first with anger, then a humerous sort of sadness.

  1. What, pray, are we the untrustworthy unwashed masses supposed to do about it when the super-secret court tells us it is being lied to by the super-secret spooks, about whose activities we are allowed to know nothing?
  2. Under these circumstances, how can we tell who is lying?
  3. Is this what now passes for investigative journalism?  Repeating, without thought or questioning, the official line?
  4. Finally one realizes just how absurd the whole situation is; then, there is no other sane reaction than to laugh.

I can't really believe the "newspaper" costs money.  They should pay us to use it, as it is of more value to them than it is to us.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:45 | 4071911 whstlblwr
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People here can make a difference. The status quo wants you to give up and be apathetic, the last thing they want is the ZH crowd running, winning and taking over.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 14:29 | 4071990 knukles
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You know, if all the unemployed people in this country would get a job then all those government employees at the welfare offices would loose theirs.

Oh wait....

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:52 | 4072376 tenpanhandle
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they could and would use free market tactics to remedy that.  If supply of unemployment goes down they would increase price (pay higher benifits) and thusly, demand would reappear.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 14:33 | 4072000 daveO
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Our local paper has been useless since Media General bought it out in the 90's. It's just a propaganda machine. I cancelled it back in the pre-internet days because nothing was better than BS. 

Sun, 10/20/2013 - 10:25 | 4073344 David Fry
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The thing is we no longer teach, learn, remember or respect authentic history.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:45 | 4071669 thatthingcanfly
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Bad data. Check your math.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:56 | 4071684 DaddyO
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You're right, I mistook the spot price of silver on the Standing liberty for the coin value so it'll take 5 standing liberty quarters to get you in the circus today.

Anyway, my thought was how far down the rabbit hole we've fallen as a society and country.

Back in 1929, society was much more civil and saw the circus as a great diversion from the hardwork of their mostly agrarian lifestyle of survival.

Today, we have JIT WalMart chicom goods to placate our sense of loss and bewilderment.

This is why the FSA has proliferated!

Growing up in the early sixties, we viewed anyone on welfare as lazy and slothful and deserving of our contempt.

What the hell happened?


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:29 | 4071717 El Vaquero
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"What the hell happened?"


Bankers and apathy leads to bread and circuses?  Just a guess, because I'm wondering the same thing myself. 

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:20 | 4071769 Father Lucifer
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I'd go back to the 60's in a heartbeat.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 19:24 | 4072437 Debt-Penitent
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I'd go back to the 60's in a heartbeat.




We've had that conversation before.  You don't just GET a do-over.

The question is:

If you could go-back and  get 30 years of youth but had to give up 30 years of knowledge.  To gain 30 years of naivety.


Never.  I wouldn't at least.

"On to the truck you go now.  We know it's a better place because no one ever comes back".


Use what you've learned.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:26 | 4071772 Svendblaaskaeg
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"..What the hell happened?.."

The brave new world is what happened me think, where all men are paid for existing (not sustainable) and no man must pay for his sins (not sustainable)

Rudyard Kipling - 1919

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 15:13 | 4072049 Manthong
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"..What the hell happened?.."

90 years of secular progressive “education”.. empirical, logical positivists.. new Soviet Union as model from the early 1920’s ..

Must do thing more cleverly, progressive, modern,  industrial, proletariat, collectivized and SECULAR.

Nuclear family is soo.. um.. agrarian..  and too prone to have faith in God rather than the State.

McCarthy tried to weed it out in the 1950’s…

Beatniks to hippies and the Ivy League Leaders to milk them all.. .the set-up for what is to come.. they have been running things. Hell, a lot of them WERE beatniks and hippies (or revolutionaries).

Homosexual marriage and adoption.. gay “pride”.

NAMBLA guy as “School Safety” Czar

Teen sexual awareness/identity in middle school

Sex education in Kindergarten (Google it)

They are lowering the age of the target population.

When people lose faith in their ability to build a stable environment, they lose it all.

Who is left to rely on…the State (?)..

Good luck with that.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 15:19 | 4072069 DaddyO
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Pretty well summed up, I'd say...

And all I wanted to do was pursue life, liberty and happiness!


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 17:47 | 4072269 GMadScientist
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Cost of Circus Ticket - 1929 ~ $.25 = 41% of one hour at the average hourly rate

Cost of Circus Ticket - 2013 ~ $20.00 = 83% of one hour at the average hourly rate


"Things haven't changed much..."

Care to try again, Chucklehead?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:47 | 4072368 DaddyO
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...from a fiat perspective there professor?

The point being that PM's will always give an accounting of the debased fiat.

Precious Metals, #WINNING!


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:59 | 4072387 tenpanhandle
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this can be perfectly explained by the use of "hedonics".  In todays circuses, the clowns are much better and trickier.  Just take Obama as an example.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:15 | 4071626 Deacon Frost
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Marius Rome and the Social Revolution (145-78 BC)

The triumphant aristocracy devoted its subtlest intelligence to undoing the constructive, rather than the demagogic, elements in legislation. It allowed the corn dole to stand as an insurance against revolution.

The masses in the capitol raised no objection; they had decided that to eat state corn in the city (Rome) was better than to sweat on the land or toil in pioneer colonies. Sloth combined with superstition… Wealth mounted but did not spread…”The condition of the poor became worse than before…the plebeians lost everything.


From Will Durant’s “Caesar and Christ” 1944

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:46 | 4071671 Seize Mars
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Hm, how oddly familiar that narrative seems.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:08 | 4071833 Deacon Frost
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Do not forget, this set the stage for the rise of Julius Caesar, and to become ‘dictator in perpetuo’.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 15:51 | 4072120 Manthong
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Republic to despotic Empire..

Cue Caligula.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 17:54 | 4072285 GMadScientist
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Funding the armament of legions of Capite censi was orders of magnitude more expensive than the grain dole and a much more relevant turn toward Empire.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 19:02 | 4072396 tenpanhandle
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"corn dole" now replaced with "corn hole".

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 14:44 | 4072016 akak
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Corn being a New World crop, I find it hard to believe that they were eating it in ancient Rome.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 16:02 | 4072131 Manthong
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He likely meant wheat for the mainstay bread (flat, round loaves made of emmer - a cereal grain closely related to wheat) to go with the circuses.

But I am sure they would not have minded corn tortillas.

Good catch on the New World crop thing, though.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 17:19 | 4072199 akak
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Leave it to the Brits to use an ambiguous if not misleading word ("corn") where a clear and unambiguous one ("grain") would do.  Just as they refuse to distinguish between "holidays" (public events) and "vacations" (personal time off), or "dessert" (general term) and "pudding" (a specific term for one kind of dessert).

Nobody fucks up the English language like the English.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 17:23 | 4072243 Miffed Microbio...
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So true akak, I was immensely pissed Robert Graves used "corn" instead of "grain" in his translations he used to write his historical novel I Claudius. Even as a teenager I knew there was no way they were importing corn from Egypt. It's as if the British get a free pass in these areas. Their mispronounciation of French words go down as "Anglicizing". WTF? In my book it's just wrong. But I guess I need to lighten up and not be such a hard ass. Wat u tink?


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 17:48 | 4072266 akak
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No, sorry, I cannot cut them any slack.

It's almost as if the Brits go out of their way to purposely mispronounce words, particularly those of foreign origin, and most particularly those with the vowel written as "a" in most European languages, the sound usually written as "ah", at least by Americans. They will go to ANY LENGTH to avoid this vowel in English words adopted from other languages, for incomprehensible reasons known only to them.  Even so simple a word as "Ra" (the ancient Egyptian sun god), "Rah", they will purposely mispronounce as "Ray".  Then there is  "pasta" pronounced as "PASS-ta" (unless it precedes a word beginning with a vowel, it which case it is even more mysteriously pronounced "PASS-ter"), and the outrageous and mangled monstrosity of what they do to the word "jaguar", which I cannot even duplicate.

It just makes me SO MAD!!!

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 17:56 | 4072289 Miffed Microbio...
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Good! Your conviction has renewed my spirit. I guess going though 2 teenagers texting and butchering the English language had damped my resolve. Fortunately, you have not been so tainted. I was raised by an English major mom who was an investigative reporter for the SF Chronicle and the editor of a small Mill Valley newspaper. My English was expected to be spot on even though it is not my forte. I spent a weekend grounded for using a past participle incorrectly, misspelling " admonish" and mispronouncing the word "beret". At least I didn't get the strap! ;-)


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:04 | 4072299 akak
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Well, my father was a teacher, and both he and my mother were rather strict with our use of language --- there was no "runnin' " or "sittin' " in OUR house, a "picture" was NOT a "pitcher", sentences did NOT end in prepositions, and God help you if the word "ain't" ever made an appearance!

Although strangely, my mother to this day still pronounces the word "milk" as "melk", despite our constant needling of her on that score every single time she has ever said it.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:24 | 4072329 Miffed Microbio...
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Ending a sentence with a preposition! Dear God Man.That is an action of which I indignantly will not put! ;-)

Your head must explode when you visit Detroit take in a few street conversations. There must be quite a few drinks involved.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:30 | 4072340 akak
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Oh Miffed, nowadays my head explodes pretty much on a daily if not an hourly basis, no matter where I might happen to find myself.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:44 | 4072363 Miffed Microbio...
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Well, may I kindly recommend more sexual harassment of oneself and fine wine? It seems to work for me.

Ok, everyday I pledge to raise the quality of my postings and not descend into the basest, most iniquitous of comments. Once again, I succumb to temptation and besmirch myself as well as ZH. I will banish myself to the corner now and liberally apply the scourge. ;-)


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:51 | 4072369 Manthong
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My peeve is the adoption of a whole new month - Feb-yew-airy.

But go pull out ur hair when u get a txt msg like this from the boss.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:57 | 4072384 akak
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I'm still trying to figure out what 'grosheries' are.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 19:34 | 4072476 g'kar
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That's how the FSA spells free shit.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 19:59 | 4072535 Manthong
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I would axe a young, open-minded and progressive teacher, but it seems as if many of them are otherwise occupied nowadays.

Sun, 10/20/2013 - 17:01 | 4074079 g'kar
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Makes you wonder why those hotties need to go that route...


How about this video:

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 19:44 | 4072420 Miffed Microbio...
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My last comment to an individual about there being an "r" in February I got " well, duh, it's like by the y.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 21:35 | 4072708 bilejones
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Ah, just as in 1984, fewer simpler words make for fewer simpler thoughts, suitable for the far simpler minds.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:18 | 4072318 Deacon Frost
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Yes akak, this is a misnomer by historians meant to refer to grains in general.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:27 | 4072334 akak
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Perhaps it is my US 'american' citizenism showing, but until this afternoon (and after a bit of internet investigation) I never realized that any English speaker used the word "corn" in any sense other than as a synonym for "maize".

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 21:15 | 4072671 bilejones
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Go to a government school, did you?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 23:18 | 4072853 akak
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Yes, but my ignorance in this case is more likely due to the fact that I did not grow up or go to school in the nation which believes that too many surveillance cameras are never enough.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 21:14 | 4072668 bilejones
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You've got it backwards.

"Corn" was always the tern used for whatever grain was used to make the local bread.- the verb "to corn" means to granulate- hence "corning gunpowder", peppercorn barley-corn reflect this idea of a small granular object.

The term corn was imported into the America's and applied to Maize, the corn from which the natives made their bread.

Happy to help.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 23:20 | 4072856 akak
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Then kindly explain "cornholed".

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:55 | 4071674 Jumbotron
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"That's why the audience won't tire of the Theater of the Absurd. It's a transitory phase in the descent. The next level is Saturday morning cartoons.

Bhoaner: "Rabbit season!"

Reid: "Duck season!"

Repeat ad nauseam."

One of the funniest episodes of Looney Tunes ever.

Think about this after seeing this.....


Civil War:

Democrats called Republicans : Radicals !

Republicans called Democrats :  Slave holders !



Republicans call Democrats : Radicals !

Democrats call Republicans : Slave Holders !


This time though the voter wants to shoot BOTH OF THEM !!!!

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:03 | 4071693 DaddyO
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Great Example!

Kinda shows how what was once right is now wrong and what was once wrong is now right.

Someone stuck a magnet near our moral compass and we're lost in a landscape of fantasy.

There is a way out and that is to check out of the system to the extent you can.

As you start down the path of personal responsibility and self reliance, the way becomes clearer the further down the trail you get.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:44 | 4071791 Svendblaaskaeg
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"As you start down the path of personal responsibility and self reliance, the way becomes clearer the further down the trail you get."

Great words, Thank You - I'll be waiting for you all at the end of the trail


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:26 | 4071875 DaddyO
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There is no end to the trail...

It's about the journey, not the destination!


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:39 | 4071903 old naughty
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Great stuff.

Journey, no end...

Thanks for sharing, DaddyO.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 14:39 | 4072009 thatthingcanfly
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That "it's the journey, not the destination" meme is as seductive as it is destructive.

The opposite is true. (And many modern Christian preachers get this wrong.) Lose sight of the destination, and the journey becomes, at best, meaningless, and, at worst, inimical to one's survival (literally and metaphorically).

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 14:57 | 4072034 DaddyO
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You miss the point entirely.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 19:38 | 4072485 thatthingcanfly
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Wow, great rebuttal there.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:36 | 4071571 RSloane
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Its much more difficult to pay off more than two political parties hence the US will not tolerate more than that.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:04 | 4071606 mvsjcl
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I don't know about that. It seems not to have made much of a difference in Europe.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:31 | 4071648 RSloane
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Per every presidential election cycle, Goldman Sachs finances either the GOP or Democrats alternately. Ex: They heavily contributed to Obama's first run for presidency yet contributed to Romney in the last election. Next presidential election, it will be the Democrats turn again. It would be far more difficult for them if third parties ran their own presidential candidates and were on equal footing with Dems and GOP in financial backers. Would it completely eliminate their effectiveness in buying off parties as well as politicians? No. Would it soften it? Yes.  Goldman Sachs would shit themselves if they had to start thinking in terms of buying off a coalition government in the US.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:10 | 4071696 DeadFred
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I would posit that they would need smaller payouts to each if the parties were splintered. In Europe it usually falls on one fringe party or another to fall in line to form the coalition. Smaller contributions to each party with a single decent bribe to the swing group may be cost effective. Be certain that the Squid has done the cost/benefit analysis.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:42 | 4071579 Disenchanted
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bread quality = stale

circus quality = tiresome

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:07 | 4071612 mrpxsytin
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Stale bread is not a problem because it would imply that you have a surplus. If on the other hand you start to notice an increase in the amount of sawdust and/or limestone content of the bread then look out!

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:29 | 4071645 Disenchanted
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Yes there's a surplus of stale bread...yippee-ki-yay!

Now I just feel blessed...



Sat, 10/19/2013 - 14:23 | 4071982 U4 eee aaa
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100 years ago it was wheat and sugar for a few silver coins

Today it is GMO wheat and high fructose corn syrup. The coins have been filled in with baser metals and are not even there in most cases having been replaced with plastic cards

Next cycle it will be sawdust, or cardboard or soylent green (they're even talking about using bugs). The cards will be replaced with microchip RFID technology or maybe just facial recognition software.

Whatever is cheaper....I mean....more cost efficient

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:47 | 4071582 Oldballplayer
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For real! Have you seen the crap on TV?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:48 | 4071800 Svendblaaskaeg
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"For real! Have you seen the crap on TV?"

Nope, I don't own one any more, but I guess it's the same crap as 20 years ago

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 15:28 | 4072079 jwoop66
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got rid of mine too.  Don't miss it at all.  Whenever I go to a friends house and they have it on, and they're just sitting there in front of it... I realize how stupid and useless it is.   

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 19:23 | 4072428 tenpanhandle
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much, much, much, much, much much, much worse than 20 years ago.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:48 | 4071585 y3maxx
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""...near the end by the quality of the bread and the quality of the circuses.""

It's time for American Citizens to build Guillotines / Gallows and wheel them on to the Washington Mall.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:56 | 4071685 Urban Redneck
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That requires carpentry skills... Since the manipulations of the mob are constrained by the skill set of the mob - I would aim for a lower common denominator. If they can steal rims and siphon gas - they can be taught to necklace congress-critters...

And unfortunately, Haiti is about the most "successful" example of slave revolt I can think of. Anyone familiar with a more successful slave revolt? (Since we are getting to the point that "Citizen" and "Subject" revolts are no longer relevant to the current situation...)

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:29 | 4071771 Tall Tom
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Wouldn't be all that hard to build a Gallows. The Cross Beam needs to handle a Load of 1500 Lbs. (One Thousand Pounds is delkiverd to dislocate the 1st and 2nd vertibrae of the neck. A 50% overage takes care of any problems.) One 8 Foot Section of aged 4X4 should handle that load.


Since the Standard Drop ranges anywhere from 1/2 foot (For the really obses that weigh 500 lbs) to 10 feet (for the thin 100 lbs petite, psychopathic women Talking Heads, Loudspeakers for Government and Central Banker Propaganda, Central Bankers and Politicians.) the Platform needs to be elevated to 13 Feet off of the ground.


This leads to the Thiteen steps on the ladder to the Platform. The hinged Trap Door needs to be unevenly weighted to the Hinged side, with a catch lock, so that it does not swing back and strike the victim's body while they fall through the trap. It does need to be a unobstructed drop...


Yeah then an Adjustable Chain needs to be attached to the Crossbar. The Rope, threaded through the end of the chain, needs to be 3/4 Inch Three Strand Manilia Hemp that has the Noose wrapped in Lambskin. I prefer to use the British Noose as it crushes the Larnyx as well as breaks the neck. This insures rapid choking and strangling in case the neck does not break due to miscalculation.


I have thought about this...fantasized about this...ruminated on this topic of interest. I needed to be a Hangman.


Hmmm...Yeah...I will get right on it.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:38 | 4071787 DaddyO
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You need to get out more!

Too much time spent over-complicating things...

One rope

One tall tree

One 15 hand horse


Job All Done...


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 19:25 | 4072446 tenpanhandle
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take yer own bullet

Sun, 10/20/2013 - 08:43 | 4073160 DaddyO
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The bullet is too "clean", doesn't have the visual impact to the attending crowd of onlookers...swinging corpse and all.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 15:14 | 4072059 koncaswatch
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Tall Tom: In a previous life did you engineer for a British aerospace firm? Lucas, Dehaviland, BAE?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 16:42 | 4072190 Urban Redneck
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That's an impressive design to leave on the drawing board.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:28 | 4071553 css1971
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The End.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:55 | 4071683 Jumbotron
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ThThThThThTh......That's all Folks !

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:46 | 4071794 DaddyO
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Sorry, what we have today is not America!

We have a characature of the America the Globalist Oligarchs are shaping so they can implement their vision of Utopia, Heaven on Earth, so to speak.

They have to tear down all that stands in the way of their dream.

Hence, what most thinking, civil patriots view as a constitutional republic is the antithesis of their world view.

So if you're saying the end of the America, the Oligarchical power mad tribe of politicians and bankers are trying to implement, then yes, the End.

However, if you're saying the end to the constitutional republic view of America, then PISS OFF.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:29 | 4071554 mofreedom
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We can't handle the truth?  Why would these geezers and geezettes want to stay in office for so long?  Tell me dammit!  Tell us the truth!!!

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:06 | 4071821 HardAssets
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"We can't handle the truth?  Why would these geezers and geezettes want to stay in office for so long?  Tell me dammit!  Tell us the truth!!!"

Because they lust for power over others. These are the same kiss ups that were class prez or class secretary in h.s. The same ones all the other kids really couldnt stand. - - - And those who didnt come into the game with much money, often leave with a lot of it.

The smart ones later figure out they aren't at the true power level. At that point, the facade of power with its perks are enough (and the money, of course).  Some of them are true believers in the new globalist vision.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 16:38 | 4072187 BlobbyBlueBland
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Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:29 | 4071556 Enslavethechild...
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I would go by the cost of a loaf of bread relative to how much money you have left over at the end of the month to buy food with (ratio)

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:30 | 4071558 mofreedom
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A new misery index, I like it, one that everyone should be able to understand.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:51 | 4071589 in4mayshun
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A true misery index would measure how much Starbucks, fast food, alcohol, and sports one is allowed to consume. Take these things away and you would see real civil disorder. Unfortunately, as long as the average American can pick up a latte on their way to the slave factory, grab a Big Mac for lunch, drink a six pack later that night before passing out watching the game....nothing will change.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 19:29 | 4072459 tenpanhandle
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you've pretty much described the average Americans' idea of utopia.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:09 | 4071836 HardAssets
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The true insanity, is that there really is enough to go around to provide a good life for every human being on this planet. (Check out the writings of Buckminster Fuller).

False 'scarcity' in many forms, is used by those who get off on controlling & hurting other human beings.

They are psychopaths.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:38 | 4071570 Running On Bing...
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Obamacare needs sick people in order to survive. If we were all healthy up until the day that we drop then this monstrosity would be obsolete.

Imagine a culture who's primary focus is the elimination of bad health and you will witness the inverse of the American culture.

Welcome to the age of sickness. How much will you pay to extend your 'timeline'? Healthcare is the new driver of economic activity.

You pay to survive in order to sicken yourself so you can pay to survive.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:46 | 4071580 negative rates
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There was a time, long ago, when you had to pay for your teeth. They were properly maintained and lasted as long as the human could live. Today we don't educate, or pay for your teeth, which is why this is one area of concern that went unheeded and caused pain and heartbreak for many.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:07 | 4071611 Running On Bing...
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Who does not pay for their teeth, my friend? What dentist is free, except for the FSA?

The point is that .gov should be busy prosecuting entities who poison their populous. And they don't, they reward them. And they too jump into the poison game in order to control their finances and payouts.

The retirement bell curve has that huge fat tail and our responsible .gov spent their money years ago.

From 1992:
Aluminum, fluoride and the prevention of Alzheimer's disease.
And they are still pumping this shit into you at record levels.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:49 | 4071739 negative rates
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My point is that there are people who try to take care of their teeth by themselves, they don't need to pay a dentist anything until the fateful day arrives that they do. With proper education we would not need dentists, or a whole host of other professions who thrive on the ones that get left behind. It's an imperfect world, until it isn't.   

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:28 | 4071774 Running On Bing...
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Claro. Much better. TY.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:16 | 4071851 HardAssets
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Commie-'care' is a weapon to be used against the people. Its aim is population reduction and dependency/control.

Don't be surprised (if Commie-'care' continues)  that within 10 years visiting a website like zerohedge would be considered a 'psychiatric disease' requiring massive dosages of mind destroying prescription injections.

Maybe people willl wear purple ribbons and do runs 'to find the cure' for such 'illness' in the population.

Its all for the 'security' of the 'Homeland' - - - - a particularly Nazi sounding phrase (and for good reason).

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:41 | 4071577 Rehab Willie
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You reap what you sow

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:46 | 4071581 Charles Wilson
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"Well, Meathead, you know that taxes are voluntary..."


Meathead: "But I'm really sick and there are no doctors 'n I still owe that MedFine..."


"Say, I know a Cowboy Poet. Mebbe he can help you..."


<Remix and repeat>



Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:48 | 4071584 g'kar
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Two choices, cheesy Theater of the Absurd or civil war. I'd rather work within the cheesy Theater of the Absurd and try to change it.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:55 | 4071596 therevolutionwas
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There is always rEVOLution when push comes to shove. Working 'within the cheesy Theater' is something even Ron Paul seems to have raised doubts about succeeding.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:14 | 4071624 g'kar
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The system needs to collapse under it's own weight.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:32 | 4071647 Running On Bing...
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So it can resurrect itself with 3 heads instead of two?

In a collapse scenario who gets hurt the most? People with resources or people without?

And while those without eagerly become more dependent on those with, are you thinking that utopia will spring forward?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:22 | 4071708 pipes
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In a big enough collapse scenario, possession becomes 9/10ths of the law, and much of what you might consider "resources", i.e. FRNs become meaningless. Some son-of-a-bitch in New York will not be taking away your 20 acres in northern Michigan. Hell...he may not even survive the first wave.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:39 | 4071785 Running On Bing...
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This big enough scenario will only be visible to those who pay to see it in the theater.

Collapse is just another type of fleecing. It's when the sheep really get fucking sheered. They once again learn their true place in the democracy. But "the dream is still obtainable if you're willing to work for it".

Same shit with a different facade. TPTB will have to flush their obligations and promises sooner or later. And that's the only thing that will change.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:13 | 4071700 pipes
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I whole heartedly agree.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:46 | 4071797 garcam123
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I'd think that Ron Paul is a bad mention here as he and his son are NOT board certified physicians.  The are both quacks self certified by their own little "board" and as such should both be arrested for parcticing medicine without proper certification, regardless of their supposed "progressive/nutcase ideas.

Just another example of how money talks and integrity does not matter in Amerika today!


How can Americans be so stupid?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:25 | 4071872 Overfed
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WTF are you talking about?

Ron Paul was a flight surgeon in the US airforce. Idiot.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 15:24 | 4072074 DaddyO
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Dr. Rand Paul is a board certified Opthamologist, a graduate of Duke.

What a douche


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:12 | 4071698 pipes
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You only THINK you're "working within the cheesy theatre to try and change it"...

Youre naive and foolish.

You are not allowed to matter, and you certainly will not be permitted to change a damned thing.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:50 | 4071587 therevolutionwas
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Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:51 | 4071591 AnAnonymous
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'American' politics are done the same way since 1776, July, 4th.

It was absurd for slave owners to introduce themselves as defenders of freedom.
And it was absurd from people to side by people who lied so openly.

That gave 'americans'

Fabled past. No change since 'americanism' inception.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:01 | 4071603 nmewn
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"It was absurd for slave owners to introduce themselves as defenders of freedom."

Right...because the Great Wall of Chinese shitizenism was built upon the matterings of freemen.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:08 | 4071616 rationaldemocracy
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Yes you are correct.

Unfortunately most of the posters here are greedy old white men who disagree with intellectually liberated people like us.

I personally don't understand why they think the United States is worth's probably the thought that they cannot spend their ill gotten money that irks them.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:14 | 4071699 Urban Redneck
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The successful slave Master is the one who convinces the slave that he has already attained freedom and Master will best provide for his needs, usually in conspiracy with the House Niggers... "intellectually liberated"? If you are intellectually liberated and have the slightest grasp of United States history, then perhaps you can explain why the majority of SOUTHERN ABOLITIONISTS fought against the Union during the War between the States (and alongside the very neighbors who were very often continuously trying to terrorize and kill them up until the was declared).

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:41 | 4071726 rationaldemocracy
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Suppose I tell you that the war was not about slavery (it was really about $) does that change your opinion of anything that I wrote? You will still have the same old opinions about Obamacare, brown people and free market economics that every other cretin on zero hedge so successfully demonstrates.



Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:11 | 4071841 Tall Tom
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Suppose I told you that Abraham Lincoln was Pro Slavery? Suppose I told you that he set up an African Colony to which he planned to expatriate the Slaves? The nation's name is LIBERIA. IT HAPPENED. Notice the root word "LIBER" It is the same root as the word, "LIBERTY" as the Slaves became "LIBER-ATED"


YOUR racism is very bad.


My Adoptive Brother is Hispanic. His wife, my Sister in Law, is black. I happen to love my brother and his wife, and her children, with ALL OF MY HEART. 


My adoptive Mother died when I was Four. I ended up in a Foster Family. That family hired a Nanny to take care of me. She was Black. Her name was Earlie Franklin. God how I loved Earlie. She was the kindest, most gentle woman I have ever met. It still brings tears to my eyes.


My first encounter with racism was because of Earlie. The neighborhood children were taunting me. They told me that a Earlie was a Nigger. I was in tears. I ran into the house crying to Earlie, "You ae not a nigger." She told me not to pay attention to those mean children, trying to console me. That still impacts me to this very day.


I hate racism, pal.


Then you ARROGANTLY call me a racist???


YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS. You have no clue as to anyone's background who posts on this site. You make your prejudicial statements without knowing anything. That is what racism is, pal.


Fuck you. Look in the fucking mirror asshole.


I am much older, meaner, smarter than I was Five.  I consider violence all of the time at this point because of racism. I have ZERO TOLERANCE for matter who the source may be.



Sat, 10/19/2013 - 14:02 | 4071948 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Violence is always acceptable, and even desirable,

when fighting against your pet peeve.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 16:38 | 4072185 Urban Redneck
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I've been casting out lines trolling for a decent debate for TWO DAYS, and THIS is the line that bites... oy vey

"Same old opinion" - YOU are advancing arguments that anyone with a proper liberal education is taught to reason past in secondary school, even without the present-day luxury of “real” text books that delve into the conflict and consensus of researched thought regarding a given set of events.

In regards to the ACA con-job there are actually varied opinions regarding it here: IT SUCKS because it lacks legal basis, IT SUCKS because it exposes the utter intellectual INFERIORITY of Barry's best house niggers to a bunch of teabaggers, IT SUCKS because its defenders either didn't read it or don't comprehend the application of cause & effect in the real world or even basic economics, IT SUCKS because it doesn't go far enough, IT SUCKS because it enriches private monopolies and oligarchies, the list goes on, but if want something that doesn't begin with IT SUCKS- perhaps you should go back to the plantation - because there really is NO rational or logical conclusion, except that IT SUCKS. However, if you were well read you might have come accross my most recent post about the joke that is Obama"care" - QUOTE

"I just went online and got an formal insurance quote emailed in under 2 minutes the MOST EXPENSIVE plan available (among the 32 offered) has a 300 annual deductible, allows any doctor I want to see, but only costs 400 a month- sound like what Obama promised??? ... My State pool only has 1.4 million people, and the cost of living is 170% of that in NYC. So it is mathematically & economically possible to run state-mandated private insurance at a reasonable cost."

Brown people and free market economics- the slaves get their panties in a bunch when an otherwise unremarkable court scribe compares the first wookie to Stokely Carmichael, and declares it an insult to the wookie, when it fact it's far more degrading to Stokely, unlike certain others who sold their ass and their name for a (cheap) seat at the table.

Stokely (who lived in Conakry at the time) was actually at the soft-core end of the spectrum of left wing revolutionaries that I was exposed to growing up, since I got to witness the big TV brand names of “free market economics” bribing the shit out of hardcore Communist "Freedom Fighters" in post-colonial West Africa (or greasing the wheels of "Progress!" before it became "Globalization" when they stopped televising the Cold War). Although Freedom Fighter is somewhat of a non-sequitur when they also Heads of State and had long since stopped fighting for “Freedom”, except for the times when the CIA was trying to knock them off... which was really hard to wrap my young mind around because Kermit was always so polite and soft-spoken just like the green muppet on TV... A generation later I'm a professional and buddy-buddy the next generation of Banana Republic Grand Poobahs and minting millionares while trying to pass on the skills so that they can at walk away from a Western Investment Banker with a fair deal, while paying myself a salary that keeps me beneath the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion. Given the hasty generalizations you repeatedly make about ZH posters, the number of times I've openly and directly insulted Austrian economics (or the popular conceptions of it) or praised Louis Farrakhan would probably make your head explode. There are a lot of layers to this onion, just as there are a lot of layers to what is going on the world around us. Juvenile crap just wastes everyone's time, so if you're going to pull it at least make it funny or colorful (or something you don't have the freedom to express back on the dystopian USSA plantation, where in proper in retard fashion- FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION and SPEECH REPRESSION are viewed as synonyms (or hypernyms) instead of antonyms, by the anti-bacterially washed and utterly indoctrinated masses.) At least the Chinaman's shtick has kept Akak & the Stooge on their toes linguistically and a bunch of us laughing for a couple years...

There are serious differences between the people who identify themselves as D or R (or any other popular dichotomy) in America. There is ZERO difference between the people who identify themselves as D or R in Washington, DC (even though sometimes that distinction gets lost around here). For evidence of this agnosticism, you need look no farther than the “bipartisanship” that they (and their spawn) so regularly demonstrate in the bedroom (since Police state took all the fun out of “visiting” the national monuments). However, when TSHTF, the actual serious differences between the PEOPLE don't amount to shit, since a Rinse, Repeat replay would actually entail the Wanna-be Black Panther Party marching side by side with the Wanna-be KKK against a common foe.

Put another way, if you want to come to Fight Club, bring something to fight WITH. Or if you are pop-culture or Bible-thumping inclined (this transcends both)-

JULES: You read the Bible Ringo? There's a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my bothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you." I been sayin' that shit for years, and if you ever heard it, it meant your ass. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a coldblooded thing to say to a motherfucker fore I popped a cap in his ass, but I saw some shit this mornin' made me think twice. You see, now I'm thinkin maybe it means mean you're the evil man, and I'm the righteous man, and Mr. 9mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that shit ain't the truth, the truth is- you're the weak, and I'm the tyranny of evil men, but I'm tryin Ringo- I'm tryin real hard to be a shepherd.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 17:39 | 4072270 tvdog
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Is there a point to that wall of nonsense? And sensible people wouldn't base their religious experience on popular movies.

Meh, both of you are nuts.

Sun, 10/20/2013 - 07:12 | 4073106 Urban Redneck
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Once could argue that sense and religion are mutually exclusive.

Of course I'm nuts, I wanted out so that I wouldn't have sacrifice my sanity or integrity.

"Money" is a baby step towards enlightenment given the starting point, but "money" is a game for poor people, and those pushing for war already had control of the banks and the monetary system.

As to the nonsesne, a Jackson Pollack paining is a bit more complex than random drops of paint on canvas, it's certainly not a hundred million dollars more complex, but then again it's not about money....

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:16 | 4071703 DeadFred
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Please check which blog you're on before posting your scripted drivel. It will save you embarrassment and maybe even your trolling job.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:43 | 4071728 rationaldemocracy
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 I welcome embarrassment and in fact I even get off on it. boo scary embarrassment.

If you don't like me sharing my opinion, get off zero hedge and go back to stormfront where you can be among more like minded people?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:15 | 4071625 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Usual Chinese citizenism drivel, usual Chinese citizenism demand to bow down to their relentless accumulation of non sense.

It is really funny how Chinese citizenism citizens want to rewrite history, with that stale story. Raving about a fabled past is just that, raving.

Is it possible to make sense when you use Chinese citizenism as a contextual framework?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:04 | 4071754 Clever Name
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Heees baaack!

Ya know, I almost missed him, but only for 4th and akaks comments that are always sure to follow!

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:25 | 4071873 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Alas, alas, and yet again alas. If one has to know all to debunk 'AnAnonymist' Chinese citizenism propaganda, the Chinese citizenism world order would have at least this value.

But the reality is that I am far from being knowledgeable and the Chinese citizenism propaganda is so cheap I can see through.

Have not people noticed that Chinese citizenism citizens like the dumb and dumber thesis? Not because it is real but because their propaganda is so low quality they need dumber and dumber people to get bambuzzled.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:35 | 4071882 akak
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And not only that, be that as it may be that may be, but the staleness of the progrational propapanda bits that are being continually regurgitationalized has been upped to such a degree that the mold of insanitation will no longer grow on them, as it grows on the cast-away female fetuses in smoldering Chinese trash mountains of fabled present.

Regurgitationalizing of same old, same old tired stock phrases is the only blunt arrow that the Chinese Citizenism citizen has in his quivering.  Must keep shooting it though, maybe one day it will stick. 

And maybe one day river pigs will grow wings and fly.

Make me laugh.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:46 | 4071917 TheFourthStooge-ing
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River pigs grow wings somehow (probably mutationally resultings of blobbing up the river pollutement means crustily) and those wings will making appearance at JKC* new menu item specialness.



*Just Killed Cat, franchised chain Chinese citizenism fastfood restaurant popularity growth the dangdang.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:54 | 4071930 akak
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No thankings, I will be staying with the Kitten McNuggets, the soup of nest of bird saliva and endangered shark fin, and the fried tiger penis in human fetus broth of traditional Chinese Citizenism culinarification of fabled past.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 14:03 | 4071952 TheFourthStooge-ing
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JKC patrons with Kitten McNugget fondness will give thankings graciously when pointed to new JKC dinner menu offering braised walrus scrota stuffed with batter fried panda toes.

Leaves customers always telling for "Mao!"

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 14:09 | 4071961 akak
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Leaves customers always telling for "Mao!"

You are making the mishearings --- they are asking for "miao".

But it is not for coincidences that the menu of JKC is printed in form of little red book.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:51 | 4071680 mofreedom
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slavery was not a bandage that could easily have been ripped off...first we had to form a country based on freedom and the we fought a civil war that granted freedom to the Jefferson and first drafts of the decleration of independance...sure there wete a few holdouts to slavery, but you lady were taught by america hating communists.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:53 | 4071593 nmewn
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"Government shutdown" and "debt ceiling" may have engaged audiences starved for entertainment in a bygone age, but now they exemplify a theater that is so impoverished it can only re-stage tired formulaic dramas with a savage appetite for incompetence and buffoonery."

But how else can statists demagogue for their own self perpetuation?

Why, if you don't allow us to grow ever larger, we'll cut off Granny's check! We'll close the marbled buildings you paid for! You will all suffer and die horrible deaths at our hands...bwaahahahahahaaa!!!

Oh, good grief, well done

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:53 | 4071594 swmnguy
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There is no such thing as "ObamaCare."  All it is is thesame old private insurance we've always had. The only difference in policies is that there's now a little bit of standardization of coverages.  And we're going to divert a bunch of money from Medicare, Mediicaid and Social Security to provide subsidies and tax credits to people who can't afford the same old private insurance they don't already have because they can't afford it.  That's it.  That's all there is to it.  It's just a massive diiversion of wealth from the middle class to the insurance companies.  The insurance companies got tired of shearing the sheep and went ahead and skinned it.  So now in this way as in so many other ways, we have to put everything second to diverting wealth to Finance so that sector doesn't collapse under its own weight.  This is the reason for the political budget theatre.  It's the reason for "ObamaCare."  It's the reason there have been, and will be, no enforcement of the law on Wall Street.  It's the reason we had the Joe Biden-sponsored,  bankster-written Bankruptcy bill of 2005 which did many things; permitting corporate abuse of bankruptcy as a negotiating and bonus-raising tactic while making it harder for individuals; and it also spelled out the laws that will allow the banks to seize depositor accounts and replace them with worthless stock, if they want to pay off the derivatives counter-parties instead.

The basic premise of endless lending at interest, and buying and selling of money as a commodity, is illogical.  You have to have permanent and infinite energy, markets, resources, and money.  Of these, in our finite world, only money can be made infinite and that only by making it abstract.  That has its own negative consequences.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:56 | 4071598 nmewn
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:03 | 4071605 stant
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ouch !! 2014 gona suck for alot in so many ways

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:07 | 4071613 nmewn
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Yes but I see light at the end of the tunnel.

Or I'm

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 18:02 | 4072296 jwoop66
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Yes.  What do you think the govt will do to suppress the Tea Party this election year?   They used the irs and occupy to suppress them in 2012; what will they use this time?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:08 | 4071617 g'kar
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...and it was all done supposedly for 30 million uninsured people. We'll have 300 million uninsured people before the the gubmint "saves" us with single payer.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:23 | 4071637 nmewn
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The whole thing is really

In this "market place" they have set up, you enter ALL your personal information BEFORE you see your choices/rates. I've never seen that in any other "market place".

Consumer: "Yes, I'd like to inquire as to what price you want for that...X".

Store-banker-car dealer-baker-mechanic etc: "Certainly. But first, I'll need your name, Social Security number, address, medical history, names of your dog & cats..."

Consumer: "Um, wut?"

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:36 | 4071654 g'kar
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Yeah, fubar. Who is handling all that personal info? This was designed to fail and be scammed. You have to buy it to find out what's in it.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:28 | 4071642 mrpxsytin
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Is that real? Sorry if this sounds stupid (I'm in shock), but is that the extra amount they will pay per month

If it is, I ask at the expense of what? Clearly your government is not going to let money be diverted from the finance sector, and they're not lowering taxes, so where will the people get the money from? I'm simply amazed. 

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 17:21 | 4072239 tvdog
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The upper middle class and wealthy will reduce discretionary income. The other people *won't* buy it. They will pay the tax penalty instead. The result is a massive increase in tax revenue.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:21 | 4071635 mvsjcl
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You're wrapping truths around a central premise which is a lie: "...same old private insurance we've always had."


Everything is different. These people don't pass 2,000+ pages of legislation to herald the "same old" anything.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 17:58 | 4072290 jwoop66
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The insurance companies were doing just fine before national socialist (obama) care.  They didn't need to do this.  More scripted anti-free market bullshit.  

The government, however, will gain MUCH more power from this. 

The insurance companies may be useful idiots in this scam, but as soon as it fails; which it was created to do, the insurance companies will no longer exist. 

obamacare was created to intentionally fail; and when it does, the government will jump in to "save us".   Just as originally planned.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:15 | 4071620 JustObserving
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Another major news story that the US media will not touch. The sheeple must continue their slumber:

US government, media silent on sacking of top nuclear officers

By Thomas Gaist 
19 October 2013


A week has passed since the unprecedented back-to-back firings of two top US nuclear commanders, and the silence of the political and media establishment on the matter is deafening.

While expert sources acknowledge that the firings of Vice Admiral Tim Giardina and Major General Michael Carey constitute an unprecedented crisis in the US military, the media have accepted the US military’s presentation of it a matter of the two officers’ personal problems. Air Force General Robert Kehler’s assertion that both firings were the result of vaguely defined “unfortunate behavioral incidents” has been accepted, and the matter largely dropped.

Such accounts are not only not credible, they entirely evade the issues involved in the sudden cashiering of officers controlling the most powerful nuclear arsenal on the planet, capable of destroying humanity many times over. As military sources or specialists of military affairs acknowledge, the firings reflect a deep crisis of the US military. In such a situation, neither the possibility of potentially catastrophic technical problems with the US nuclear arsenal nor of threatened military action against the US civilian government can be ruled out.


Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:34 | 4071779 Seize Mars
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I've posted this elsewhere, so forgive me for doing a repeat:

Here is the location of the small earthquake caused by the dumping of the low yield nuke on October 7:{%22feed%22%3A%2230day_m45%22%2C%22search%22%3Anull%2C%22sort%22%3A%22newest%22%2C%22basemap%22%3A%22grayscale%22%2C%22autoUpdate%22%3Atrue%2C%22restrictListToMap%22%3Atrue%2C%22timeZone%22%3A%22local%22%2C%22mapposition%22%3A[[5.61598581915534%2C-103.271484375]%2C[54.367758524068385%2C-42.01171875]]%2C%22overlays%22%3A{%22plates%22%3Atrue}%2C%22viewModes%22%3A{%22map%22%3Atrue%2C%22list%22%3Atrue%2C%22settings%22%3Atrue%2C%22help%22%3Afalse}}

Put that whole mess into your browser navigation bar and it will show the USGS earthquake map.

Obama ordered the nuking of Charleston, the two brass nukers dumped it in the ocean about 320 miles SE of town, and they got fired.

They were replaced by a dual citizen who is abso-fucking-lutely going to pull the trigger as soon as they can figure out a second string false flag target.

The item was a B61-11 at about 1-kiloton.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:39 | 4071786 Seize Mars
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We don't even know this asshole's real name (BH Obama). His social security number was originally issued to someone called "Harrison J. Bounel" who was born in Connecticut. Mr. Bounel was listed at one point as a residence of "Obama's" house in Chicago.

We don't even know his real name, for God's sake.

This is how they did it in Cuba: when Castro ad revolutionaries attacked, it was about 1500 soldiers versus about 45,000 in Batista's army. Batista's army surrendered and the overthrow was complete, because the fucking general was an infiltrator.

Now is this shit starting to add up?

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:17 | 4071630 Carpe Diem
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This great song just hi the net and sums up the whole debacle. Also a groovy dance tune.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:19 | 4071633 Carpe Diem
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this song just hit the net and really sums up the whole debacle. Also a great dance tune.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:34 | 4071653 tongue.stan
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CHS does a nice job in this post except for this:

"The players, ... , are blind to the poverty of their performance and political theatrics."

The Players are all well aware of their roles and depravity. In fact, most of them relish the poverty of their souls, and the crushing of everyone outside of the walls of their supposed fortresses.

One look into the empty, black holes that are their eyes says it is so.

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