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12 Shocking Clues For What America Will Look Like When The Next Great Economic Crisis Strikes

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Submitted by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

The collapse of American society is accelerating.  For the moment, much of our social decay is being masked by the tremendous level of affluence that we are experiencing in aggregate.  It has been reported that 4 out of every 5 adults in the United States "struggle with joblessness, near-poverty or reliance on welfare for at least parts of their lives", but in general Americans still enjoy a debt-fueled standard of living that is far beyond what most of the rest of the world enjoys.  When that debt-fueled standard of living permanently disappears, it is going to unleash chaos unlike anything that America has ever seen before. 

Right now, economic conditions in this country are not anywhere close to where they were before 2008, but this is just the beginning.  We are in the midst of an ongoing economic collapse which is going to get much, much worse in the years ahead.  When the next major wave of the economic crisis strikes, millions of people are going to become extremely desperate.  And desperate people do desperate things.  We are already starting to see this play out all over the nation, but this is only a preview of coming attractions.  What we are going to witness in future years is going to be almost too horrible for words.

So how can I be so sure that this is going to happen?  After all, the United States didn't descend into complete and utter chaos during the Great Depression of the 1930s.  Wouldn't an economic depression unfold in a similar manner today?

Unfortunately, a lot has changed since then.  A lot more Americans were self-sufficient back in those days, and the truth is that the character of our nation has been rotting and decaying for decades.  In a previous article, I described it this way...

"We are simply not the same country that we used to be.  Americans are proud, selfish, greedy, arrogant, ungrateful, treacherous and completely addicted to entertainment and pleasure.  Our country is literally falling apart all around us, but most Americans are so plugged into entertainment that they can't even be bothered to notice what is happening."

Just last weekend, there were "mini-riots" in several U.S. states when "technical issues" caused the food stamp system to go haywire for a few hours.

What would have happened if there had been an extended outage or if the political crisis in D.C. had caused food stamps to be completely cut off at some point in November?

Let's be thankful that we did not have to find out.

But even though major food stamps riots may have been averted (at least for now), there are a whole host of other signs that America is going to become a very unstable place during the next major economic downturn.  The following are 12 shocking clues about what America will look like when the next great economic crisis strikes...

#1 Would you continue to work as a bus driver if you were stabbed while driving or if a passenger poured urine all over you?  Just check out what has been going on in Detroit lately...

After two drivers were recently stabbed and another had urine poured on her by an angry rider, union officials representing bus drivers for the city of Detroit are set to protest in front of city hall at 10 a.m. on Monday.

#2 We are starting to see a lot of "group crimes" happen all over America.  For example, just the other day in Brooklyn, New York a gang of 10 young thugs dragged a young couple out of their vehicle and brutally beat them...

Ronald Russo was dragged to the ground. Then he was punched and kicked in the head. He felt more blows all over his body, investigators said. He suffered a fractured nose, a broken septum, a blood clot and abrasions to his shoulder. He was treated and released from Beth Israel Medical Center.


In the midst of the attack, there was a steady chorus of epithets. “White motherf-----!” screamed the attackers, who ranged in age from 12 to 18.


Alanna Russo, 30, was calling 911 when the 12-year-old girl pulled the woman’s hair and threw her to the ground. The victim’s head slammed into the concrete. She suffered a black eye, bleeding and difficulty breathing, prosecutors said, but she refused medical attention.

#3 A lot of people assume that they are perfectly safe inside their own vehicles but that is not the case at all.  A story in the New York Post about a gang of bikers that ruthlessly hunted down a young family that was driving an SUV made national headlines a few weeks ago...

A gang of bikers terrorized a dad driving with his wife and baby daughter on the West Side Highway — chasing after their SUV and then dragging the man out and beating him to a pulp in front of his horrified family, authorities said.

When the bikers caught up with this family they showed the father of the baby daughter absolutely no mercy...

One biker can be seen on the video ripping off his helmet and using it to bash in Lien’s driver’s-side window.


The crew pummeled Lien on the pavement in front of his wife, Rosalyn Ng, and their 2-year-old daughter, police sources said.


Lien, who also was slashed during the melee, was rushed to Columbia University Medical Center. He needed stitches to his face and chest and had two black eyes.

#4 We are living at a time when hearts are becoming very cold.  Some Americans are becoming so desperate for money that they will do almost anything to get it.  In fact, one couple in Tennessee has actually been charged with selling their four daughters for use in sex films...

An East Tennessee couple is facing a list of charges, accused of selling their children to take part in sex films.


Connie Sue McCall, 40, and her husband, Ronnie Lee McCall, 61, of Johnson City have been charged by a federal grand jury.


Paperwork shows the couple was selling their four daughters.


Prosecutors say the four girls were between the ages of 5 and 16 when this happened.

Could you imagine such a thing happening in your neighborhood?

Perhaps it is happening, but you just don't know that it is going on.

#5 And it is not only older people that are having their hearts grow cold.  It is happening to young people too.  Last week, a 17-year-old girl was caught carrying around a dead baby (which she probably gave birth to) in a shopping bag in a Victoria's Secret store right in the heart of Manhattan...

The dead baby found in the teen’s shopping bag at a Victoria’s Secret store in Manhattan was born alive and then asphyxiated, police said Friday, as the macabre discovery turned toward a possible homicide case.


Police believe 17-year-old Tiana Rodriguez gave birth to the baby at a friend’s house and that the infant was later asphyxiated. However, the city medical examiner’s office said an autopsy was inconclusive, and more tests were needed.

Who does something like that?

#6 Sadly, a lot of mothers appear to be losing the natural affection that they should have for their children.  Just check out another incident that happened in New York City recently...

So much for no child left behind.


A stroller-toting mom who used her 1-year-old son as cover during a massive candy shoplifting spree at a downtown Duane Reade used the tot's pram as a battering ram when workers confronted her — and then ran away without the baby, the NYPD said.

#7 One of the clearest signs that American society is decaying is the fact that groups of kids are banding together and agreeing to commit absolutely horrible crimes.  We have seen this with the "flash mob" robberies that are plaguing many cities, but what is even worse is when groups of kids band together to commit violent acts.  In Pennsylvania recently, a group of teens cheered on attackers as they beat up a 15-year-old girl...

Speaking exclusively to CBS 3, a 15-year-old high school student, whose identity we are concealing, described a terrifying attack by a gang of at least nine teenage boys as she was leaving an Interboro High School football game Monday night.


The teenage victim described first being taunted by the attackers, who followed her down a neighborhood street, cursing and spitting at her, before she was repeatedly kicked and punched, suffering at least one blow to her head.

The attackers even tried to throw her in front of a passing vehicle and nobody tried to stop them...

The victim says as at least two of the teenagers pummeled her, the others cheered them on shouting, “Come on, let’s get her!” At one point, the victim says, the gang tried to throw her under the wheels of a passing car, which swerved, narrowly missing her.

What is happening to this country?

#8 We have also been hearing about a lot of "gang rapes" lately as well.  The following is an excerpt from a first-hand account from a 14-year-old girl in Missouri that experienced this type of horrible ordeal...

About five shots tall, I drank it. I guess I didn't know how badly it would mess me up. But the boys who gave it to me did.

Then it was like I fell into a dark abyss. No light anywhere. Just dark, dense silence -- and cold. That's all I could ever remember from that night. Apparently, I was there for not even an entire hour before they discarded me in the snow.

You can read the rest of her sobering story right here.

Are you starting to understand why I am so convinced that we have a major problem with our young men in America today?

Instead of raising young gentlemen, we are raising wild animals that seem to have very little self-control.

#9 And sometimes the public does not do anything to stop sexual assaults even when they happen on public streets.  In a recent incident in Athens, Ohio, not only did the public not stop a sexual assault, many actually took photos of the assault and posted them on social media websites...

Horrific photos of an alleged rape in progress have been shared on social media after crowds at a college homecoming celebration chose to take pictures and videos of the sex act rather than stopping it.

Would such a thing have happened in our country 50 years ago?

Of course not.

We need to come to grips with how far we have fallen.

#10 In America today, young kids can beat a homeless man to death and it barely even makes a blip on the news.  I'll bet hardly any of you have heard about what happened recently to a homeless man in New Jersey...

Three teenagers were in custody Saturday morning, on charges of beating a homeless man to his death in Hoboken, N.J.


As CBS 2’s Janelle Burrell reported, Hudson County Acting Prosecutor Gaetano T. Gregory said two 13-year-olds and a 14-year-old were charged in the Sept. 10 death of Ralph Eric Santiago, 46.

What would cause 13-year-olds and 14-year-olds to behave so savagely?

Could it be because we are raising them in a society where basic morality is not taught any longer?

#11 Our young people certainly do not have much respect for the very elderly anymore either.  Instead, the elderly are looked at as "weak" and "easy prey".  Just check out what recently happened to a 70-year-old man in upstate New York...

A 70-year-old man was seriously injured early Saturday morning after being attacked outside of a 7-Eleven in Syracuse.


Police say James Gifford had just left the store at the intersection of Valley Drive and South Street just after 6:00 a.m. and was attacked by a group of five or six black males, according to Syracuse Police.


Police also said this appears to be an unprovoked incident with an innocent victim.

#12 In this day and age, it is very hard to tell who you can trust.  You might meet someone on the street and they might smile and seem very nice, but inside they may be full of all kinds of garbage.  For example, just check out what one man in the Boston area planned to do

A Boston-area man, who was planning to kidnap children, lock them in a basement dungeon, rape and eat them, should be imprisoned for at least 27 years, federal authorities said in court documents filed this week.


Geoffrey Portway pleaded guilty in May to distribution and possession of child pornography and solicitation to commit a crime of violence, according to court documents. He is scheduled to be sentenced on September 17.


“Portway has pled guilty to some of the most vile and heinous crimes known to our society,” federal prosecutors wrote in a sentencing recommendation.

This is how twisted and perverted our society has become.

A lot of Americans believe that if we could just elect "the right politicians" or if we could just change our economic system or if we could just fix one particular issue that everything would be right in America again.

Unfortunately, what we are facing is not so simple.  Our problems are not just in Washington D.C. or on Wall Street.  The truth is that our biggest problem is what is going on inside of us.

America is rotting and decaying on the inside, and the next great economic crisis is going to reveal just how bad things have gotten.


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Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:20 | 4077787 BudFox2012
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I'm really going to have to get in shape if I hope to be a rickshaw driver when we turn all 3rd world...


Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:04 | 4077869 Cult_of_Reason
Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:08 | 4077926 darteaus
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Silver coins, ammo, liquor, cigarette lighters, water purification, hygeine supplies.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:16 | 4077946 Cult_of_Reason
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Yep, you can never have too much of ammo stored in your basement.

All those 10 young thugs would have at least a bullet in their stupid heads if they tried to pull me out of my car.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:19 | 4077973 darteaus
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The feral do learn quickly.  After hearing fire and seeing one or two drop screaming, you'd be hard pressed to find other targets.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:47 | 4078066 Stackers
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Any biker smashing in the window of my F150 with his helmet will be having a short conversation with Mr. Ceska Zebrojoka 75

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:03 | 4078112 James_Cole
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What a ridiculous article, there's how many millions of people in the US? Of course you're going to have some incidents of various crime, beatings, daughters being sold etc.!

Y'all that are buying this shit as the end of the world need to get out of your houses, onto a plane and into a 3rd world country 'merica doesn't even register. Particularly to countries which have been invaded by the US. Take Iraq for instance, 30mil people, 1220 killed last month. And that's just killed, lots of other violence. 

A time machine would be even better, go back to 'merica 1915 - 1945 - by all accounts a real shitfest for most, but I can't confirm frst hand.  

America is rotting and decaying on the inside, and the next great economic crisis is going to reveal just how bad things have gotten.

America is facing sefl-inflicted wounds from allowing a small bunch of assholes to dominate the country. Nothing major. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:46 | 4078249 TheReplacement
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I was going to call you out then I realized who you are.  Nevermind.  You are funny.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:48 | 4078257 markmotive
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Come on now. They're tracking us for our own good.

If you haven't done anything wrong you don't have anything to worry about, right?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:08 | 4078313 Abi Normal
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YAY!!! Cheers to the big govt.  Big Brother I love you, put some more cameras up, maybe you can install HD stuff, so you can see the hair on my ass when I moon ya.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 03:18 | 4078588 TheRedScourge
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It's no wonder that recording crimes is all that people are willing to do now, because the legal system is a farce. You can be jailed for giving someone CPR and saving their life now. Or be found not guilty of murder while defending yourself from a vicious thug only to be taken to the supreme court for another try, and then used to promote political and racial tension by the media to temporarily boost viewership.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 04:29 | 4078634 Doña K
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American exceptionalism!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 04:12 | 4078627 Acet
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He is, however, right.

It's the law of large numbers in action: with a large enough number of individuals and individual actions, at any one time there is always somebody commiting some act of extreme vileness somewhere.

While the point of of the main article might or not be correct, the method of describing 12 examples of vileness is a falacy and proves nothing.


Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:35 | 4078368 drendebe10
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Gimme a break. Are these rotten turds any different than the turds and their bank and corporate cronies lining their pockets at the public trough and their cravings for power over the serfs and peasants. A sociopathic turd is a sociopath regardless of their methods. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 06:48 | 4078723 Urban Redneck
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A turd may be a turd, but there is a long and clear distinction between crimes against property, crimes against people, and crimes against the State. The sociopathic turd who uses the State to commit crimes against the people should be struck down with the same vengeance as the sociopathic turd who commits a crime against the person of his neighbor.

So the proper delineation of sociopathic turds would place bankers and flash mob thieves in an outer circle of hell, while placing politicians and murders in an inner circle of hell.

Probably not the answer you had in mind.

And for a truly unappealing thought, large scale social and national salvation is most usually achieved a sociopathic turd or turds committing the highest crimes against the State... so if you think there were too many sociopathic turds amongst the founding fathers of the United States, look at what their stand-ins are likely to be on the next go-round of the big Rinse, Repeat Wheel of History...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:39 | 4078376 TheMeatTrapper
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Unlike you James, I don't judge the actions of my fellow countrymen in comparison to Muslim savages. The fact that you do speaks volumes about your brand of moral relativism. 

We are not "buying this shit as the end of the world" (but that's a nice strawman by the way) - we are simply observing reality and commenting on the fact that as the United States has become more "progressive", our moral standards and our quality of life have declined in a corresponding manner. 

America is facing self inflicted wounds because our people have traded their liberty for temporary security and abandoned the principles that this country was founded upon. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:17 | 4078434 James_Cole
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we are simply observing reality and commenting on the fact that as the United States has become more "progressive", our moral standards and our quality of life have declined in a corresponding manner. 

What time period are you referring to? Cause in the last 30 yrs it went something like this:

- Reagan doubled the deficit fighting 'communism' & other dangerous ills while simultaneously gutting social programs and working with Greenspan to restructure social security in order to drain the funds

- speaking of Greenspan, he went on an epic 'wealth creation' spree debasing the dollar at a wild rate to make people with financial ties very rich (this has gone on continuously since his reign and continue unabetted) 

- payroll taxes have skyrocketted while dividend taxes have been slashed

- WTO, NAFTA (and soon TPP) helped destroy the domestic labour market

- Freidman's neoliberalism has long been, and continues to be, the gospel of the economic planners

- Bush Jr. invaded two countries while simultaneously cutting income tax rates  (mostly for the rich)

- US courts decided the geneva conventions don't really matter

- Clinton worked with his economic advisors to totally deregulate the finance industry, eventually leading to trillions in losses for average Americans (somehow the banks did OK)

- $1 trillion dollar giveaway to the banks after they tanked the economy

- the 'liberal' Democrats created a giant giveaway to the insurance industry (ACA) rather than attempt anything close to a single payer system

- Obama continues the highly 'progressive' drone program, including signature strikes

- Supreme court ruled in favour of no-limit politican buying $

The list goes on... but there IS gay marriage (sort of)!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:07 | 4078921 TrumpXVI
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I gave you an "up arrow", because I agree completely that there are real dangers in citing anecdotal incidents as "proofs".  It's very true that in a country of 300+ million people there are going to be a relatively large number of sociopaths and serial killers.  Add to that, round the clock media coverage with a petchent for the sensational, and it's easy to track down the kinds of stories that the author of the above article cited.

However, I'm 62 years old and cannot get rid of the intuitive feeling that things ARE getting worse and worse on a social level.  My personal belief is that things ARE getting worse.  But I'm not sure exactly how I would go about illustrating that to others in any way that would be convincing on the merit of the facts.

The best argument I could make wouldn't be anecdotal, but theoretical and goes like this.

1) Our society is dysfunctional (observation).

2) One of the diagnostic characteristics of dysfunction is a marked proclavity for worsening over time (clinical observation in individual relationships).

Whether or not this pertains to societies as a whole, I really don't know for sure.

But I know where my suspicions lie.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:37 | 4078226 TheReplacement
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Books, books have knowledge.  You can trade knowlege without giving it up.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 01:18 | 4078504 philipat
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WHen TSHTF, will they seal off Lower Manhattan, The Upper East side and Long Island? That might be difficult, if you get my drift..

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 04:48 | 4078640 darteaus
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Especially Spiderman or Hulk.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:15 | 4077956 OutLookingIn
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Land of the Thieves, Home of the Slaves.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:06 | 4078302 old naughty
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Den of the fearmongering elites.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:21 | 4077980 are we there yet
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Ok, you have Zombies covered, but Vampires are better armed, they only fear the light of the free press, and not much of that left.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:15 | 4078171 Bárðarbunga
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Yes, Mr. Chan. That's a mighty fine display of...

Lightsabers you have there.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:00 | 4078412 midtowng
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Most of the stuff in this article has always happened. Man's inhumanity to man isn't a new thing.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 01:29 | 4078523 PeterSchump
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That makes it OK.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 19:36 | 4081248 Thoth
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I'll take that big boy on the bottom, please.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:04 | 4077915 darteaus
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I saw guys in Haiti moving cargo when I was there, but it wasn't like the kind of rickshaw you see in the movies.

Two guys with a dead pickup truck frame-no motor, no tranny, no cab-just the frame, wheels and tires.  They put boards across the frame and load it with cargo.  One guy pulls a harness in front while his buddy pushes in the back.  The harness is hooked to the front wheels such that the wheels turn according to the harness input.  When they get to the top of a hill, the guy in the back holds it back while the guy in the front just guides it down the hill.  Obviously, they avoid steep hills or go with a light load.  Once they get to another hill, the guys change positions.  These guys-young and fit-were moving cargo all over Port au Prince.

Tough way to make a living.

BTW, they also had a public transit-w/o the government.  Small pickup trucks with camper cabs had benches along the sides-"tap-taps".  You stand on a boulevard and flag one down to get on.  Give the driver a quarter, and you can ride as far as you want.  When you want to get off, you tap the driver's cab, he pulls over and you get out.  No government buses, unions, pensions, raises, health care, racism awareness counselors, etc.  And, [gasp!] somehow it worked!

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:02 | 4078124 Hulk
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Its a little known fact that a pickup truck sans motor and transmission can haul a much greater load...

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 01:18 | 4078503 infinity8
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Thanks for the story. Reminds me of when I went to Big Bend National Park in (late?) '90's w/a friend. Place called Boquillas Del Carmen on the Rio Grande where you just whistle or yell it was so shallow and narrow there (probably could have waded across) and some one of many Mexican dudes would paddle over their rowboat that looked like it was mostly hammered-out, welded-together Chevy hoods, you give them 2 bucks, and they row you across. On the other side, you could cough up another 2 bucks to rent/ride a burro into their hamlet that was only maybe a mile away. We walked. I bought an ugly leather belt that I never wore, my friend bought a hat, and then we spent a lot of money (to them) on beers (Corona was all they had) - :( - and crazy delicious tacos.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:20 | 4077790 TeamDepends
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Damn Tyler, is there any good news?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:36 | 4077823 golfrattt
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The pen name of the guy who authored this article wouldn't be Graham Summers, would it...??


Gloom, boom, doom, boom, doom, gloomy, broom...enuff already

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:46 | 4077856 knukles
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But at least we can rest easy that after the speech the ACWhateveritis is all fixed
The Messiah come through again

Thank Him

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:54 | 4077876 akak
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Hell, this wasn't even a reasonable prediction of gloom and doom --- merely a list of a string of anecdotal crimes attempting to demonstrate where this nation is heading.  While it has some thin semblance of relevance to our nation's current state of decay, one could just as easily have dredged up a similar list from any of the last several decades in any major city in the USA.

I rate this 'article' as poor, just as I rated as poor Kuntler's hate-filled and racist rant of earlier today here on ZH.

Shit, what is happening to this site?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:00 | 4077900 fonzannoon
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Take a look at a 5 year chart of the S&P and u will see what is happening.

All that is left to do is sell fear. some of it is legit. this economic collapse garbage is the worst of the worst. There is always awful shit happening somewhere. to peddle it like this is beyond lame.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:15 | 4077952 Dr Benway
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And conveniently packaged in easily digested numbered lists ala Share with your loved ones today lol

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:28 | 4078203 Oldwood
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There have always been bad people doing bad things. I do however think it IS differnet this time. Humans have always been able to rationalise doing bad things, but today we have a society that does it for us. Our failings are seldom our own. If we haven't a job its the economy or a shitty boss but never the shitty employee. If we can't afford healthcare or the car or home of our dreams, it society's fault or some rich white guy. It always been someone else's fault but now we have our popularly elected government blaming others for us. Yes we have always had rot but we never fertilized to the extent we do today, and it it is growing.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:21 | 4079313 NoTTD
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The plural of "anecdote" is "data".

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:27 | 4077993 Winston Smith 2009
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"Damn Tyler, is there any good news?"

Plenty, but the Internet now allows news that would have remained local to go national.  I suspect the sort of stuff mentioned has been going on in the largest US cities since at least the 1960s.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:57 | 4078101 max2205
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How's this guy wake up in the morning without blowing out his brains

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:00 | 4078113 Bro of the Sorr...
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i got laid saturday night...high five!


nah i didnt. no good news.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:04 | 4078130 Hulk
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You're going to have to move outta Japan, the odds for having sex there are pretty low....

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:08 | 4078141 Bro of the Sorr...
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im in shanghai. odds here are quite good.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:21 | 4077793 wisehiney
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The list of places for that asswipe kunstler to run to when the shtf is getting shorter!

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:23 | 4077795 Totentänzerlied
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I guess the author isn't familiar with mean reversion. Last I checked we're still at an all-time low for violent crime.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:05 | 4077914 LetThemEatRand
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But we're at an all time high (by miles) for hearing or reading about it thanks to 24 cable news (most of which is devoted to the shocking crime of the day, week, etc) and the internets.   So naturally people assume that it is much worse now.   Kind of like when people go to Europe for the first time and realize that public transportation doesn't have to suck and that wall maps don't all have the United States in the middle.  Good public transportation existed there before you knew about.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:34 | 4078022 buyingsterling
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There does seem to be a lot of mobbish attacks on lone whites or white couples these days, often 5-10 black attackers kicking and stomping a prone victim. And the 'knockout' game is only a few years old.

What's really scary to me is this: 1. if you see videos of these incidents, there are often onlookers who are hooting and cheering. No one comes to the defense of the innocents, and the onlookers couldn't be more pleased than to see totally innocent victim(s) mercilessly brutalized. 2. It seems like just the slightest crack in the sense of order - even just a notion that mayhem can be gotten away with - is enough to tip groups of young blacks into senseless violence. What will they do when a real breakdown of order happens?

This is all very bad for blacks in general. In a breakdown situation I can see millions of people shooting first and asking questions later.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:43 | 4078046 LetThemEatRand
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I don't know if there is really an uptick in this kind of violence or not (I've heard of a few examples in a country with hundreds of millions of people), but a few decades ago it was quite commonplace that gangs of whites would lynch black people to cheering and/or "do nothing about it" crowds of onlookers.  There is no doubt that many ignorant people hate people of other races and that has been going on since tribes formed in caves.   

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:59 | 4078111 max2205
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That bath salt crime trend seems to have gone away...thank god

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 20:41 | 4084697 shiftless
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Don't worry...they will trot it out again whenever the prison industrial complex needs more money.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:05 | 4078134 James_Cole
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but a few decades ago it was quite commonplace that gangs of whites would lynch black people to cheering and/or "do nothing about it" crowds of onlookers.

Shhh, us white people hate to be reminded about such things. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:32 | 4078217 Oldwood
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So we were sill lynching people in the eighties? A few decades huh. Not excusing anything, especially your exagerations.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:47 | 4078388 TheMeatTrapper
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Don't bother mentioning that whites were lynched - by other whites in the absence of an effective functional government. It doesn't fit the mantra. 

Most people have no idea that the Klan would visit a white wife beater just as quickly as they would an 'uppity niggra'. 

Historical reality isn't as cut and dried as people like to believe. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:53 | 4078399 LetThemEatRand
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You do realize that you just said that an "uppity niggra" is the same as a wife beater.  Then again, I suppose you don't get my point.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:07 | 4078421 TheMeatTrapper
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I think it is you that doe not grasp mine. My point, simply put, is that Klan violence was not based soley upon skin color - but rather the perceived threat to the status quo of the time. 

In that perspective, my example stands. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:11 | 4078427 LetThemEatRand
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Status quo = uppity nigs must die and wife beaters also must die.  They are the same.  Okay, got it.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:29 | 4078451 TheMeatTrapper
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They were the same in the eyes of the Klan. You seem to want to attribute the views of the Klan to me for some odd reason. 

I am not defending the Klan, simply attempting to explain historical truth to you. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:32 | 4078453 LetThemEatRand
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So you disclaim them, then?  You admit they were wrong, then?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:46 | 4078464 TheMeatTrapper
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Of course they were "wrong"! The problem is, the Reconstruction government after the Civil War was equally "wrong" - but only one set of wrongs gets remembered and extolled. The other set of wrongs gets ignored.

We must be intellectually honest - and call a spade a spade (and no thats not a racist remark). 

We in the Deep South have been through invasion, occupation, starvation, discrimination and reconciliation. We understand each other down here. We accept each other for what we are - and who we are. We get along a hell of a lot better than the so called progressives up north do. 

I'll make you the same offer I made James Cole the other night on a similar thread: I have no problem acknowledging your point that the Klan was wrong. Do you acknowledge my point that blacks commit crime in a manner way out of proportion to their numbers in the general population and that whites have a legitimate reason to be outraged by their behavior? 

I have no problem acknowledging your point - are you intellectually honest enough to admit mine? 


Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:59 | 4078472 LetThemEatRand
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In this current snippet of history poor blacks are dangerous to less-poor whites in America.  But if you focus on that instead of the reasons behind it, you are lost brother.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 01:01 | 4078481 TheMeatTrapper
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I am well aware of the reasons behind it - and I'm equally aware that I cannot change the past. All I can do is focus on the present and make sure that I do not allow anyone - regardless of race - to threaten me or my family. If that makes me "lost", so be it. 


Tue, 10/22/2013 - 01:03 | 4078484 LetThemEatRand
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That does not make you lost.  It's the other shit you said.  

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:55 | 4078274 buyingsterling
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Actually, if you look at a breakdown of lynchings by race, it seems like blacks got the better end of the deal:

Since blacks commit violent crimes at about - what, James - you're a good lefist - is it about 6x the rate of whites, and about 20X for murder? Boy all the oppression really leads to a lot of violence and murder.

Anyhoo, since there are literally tens of thousands of black on white rapes (of women, God knows how many of men in prison) every year, I think we've been pretty well punished for the 3500 or so lynchings of blacks since the civil war. I take it you're white, James, it must suck to be white and have a lot of racial guilt.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:08 | 4078297 James_Cole
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Since blacks commit violent crimes at about - what, James - you're a good lefist - is it about 6x the rate of whites, and about 20X for murder? Boy all the oppression really leads to a lot of violence and murder.

If you go by the fbi statistics and factor in population disparity the rate is roughly 3x, yet they account for 40% of the prison population even though whites commit 2.5x more violent crime (when consideirng total #s).

So no, blacks are not getting the better end of the deal. 

Oh and that's not to say there are more whites incarcerated by total #, it's somewhere comparable ~40% of the prison population.

In 2010 black non-Hispanic males were incarcerated at the rate of 4,347 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents of the same race and gender. White males were incarcerated at the rate of 678 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents. Hispanic males were incarcerated at the rate of 1,755 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:30 | 4078361 buyingsterling
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I bet if you broke it all down by IQ you'd find very few racial disparities, either in the crime rates or in the imprisonment rates.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:20 | 4079744 Kobe Beef
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Except there are very large racial differences in IQ. So back to square 1: race.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:29 | 4078197 PrintemDano
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A few decades ago?  I call complete bullshit.  If you are referring to the KKK a 130 years ago Sen Robert Byrds boys did that in the dead of night, no cheering mobs like the savages of today.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:30 | 4078209 James_Cole
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Although lynchings have become rare following the civil rights movement and changing social mores, some have occurred. In 1981, two KKK members in Alabama randomly selected a 19-year-old black man, Michael Donald, and murdered him, to retaliate for a jury's acquittal of a black man accused of murdering a police officer. The Klansmen were caught, prosecuted, and convicted. A $7 million judgment in a civil suit against the Klan bankrupted the local subgroup, the United Klans of America.

Why call bullshit when you have the internet?

^ an illustrious history

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:37 | 4078227 Oldwood
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And they were prosecuted? Sorry but when I think of lynchings I think of murders where justice is neither sought or found. People have murdering each of since the beginning of time.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:41 | 4078235 James_Cole
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To punish (a person) without legal process or authority, especially by hanging, for a perceived offense or as an act of bigotry.
Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:51 | 4078394 TheMeatTrapper
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Michael Donald was murdered by two men. Not lynched by a group of people with community approval. I grew up in Mobile, Alabama during that time and remember it well. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:37 | 4078224 LetThemEatRand
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1950's/1960's.  The national guard had to be called out for school intergration and there were plenty of hangings.  That's a few decades ago.  And by the way, my family moved me from Detroit when I was one because of race riots (blacks burning shit up).  At the time, many people believed that race wars were inevitable.   I went to the Starbucks today and ordered a large coffee from a gay black guy and had a nice conversation.  Had lunch at a Columbian chicken restaurant where I think I was the only native English speaker and everyone was friendly and the food was great.  The idea of wholesale race wars are the bullshit fantasy that keep us divided.  There are plenty of racists of all flavors and in times of economic trouble racial crimes increase because people are pissed and want to lash out at a perceived enemy.   But most of us get along okay.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:40 | 4078233 Oldwood
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But not for the lack of trying. Devisive politics has never been stronger.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:43 | 4078245 LetThemEatRand
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Can't disagree with you there.  I really believe that the owners of this country put a black guy into the Whitehouse as a chess move.  They are chess players and they have been winning for a long time while we black and white pawns argue amongst ourselves.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:00 | 4078290 buyingsterling
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It's not in the government's interests that we get along. Until the 'civil rights era' blacks were still behind whites economically, but advancing faster. Then JAMES COLE and his ilk got hold of them. 50 years later their primary cultural moniker is rap and 70% of black kids never have a daddy to punish them, reward them, love them, and cherish them. Thanks James. You need your own country because you SHIT WHERE YOU EAT and then play in the fecal matter and call it ART.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:07 | 4078304 LetThemEatRand
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Jesus, man.  More than fifty (50) percent of white parents are divorced.  Go down to a criminal courthouse sometime and look at all the strung out white guys and gals who were arrested the night before for drug crimes.  So I guess the great virtue of whites is that they have blacks by a few percentage points on the fucked up beyond belief scale, so the problem is black culture.  Maybe the fucking problem is bigger than that you fucking douche.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:38 | 4078375 buyingsterling
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The dominant black culture stigmatizes learning and reading. It actively promotes misogyny and violence.

White culture these days is nothing to cheer about, but the fact is that most white kids have a father in the home and academic success is still celebrated. And most first marriages (70% or so) end with the death of one of the partners. The 'half of all marriages end in divorce' includes the people who are divorced multiple times. But you want to stigmatize whites because a lot of them turn to drugs in this screwed up society and economy?

Why are you so defensive about black culture? What's good about it? And how is it working out for them? Touchy.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:55 | 4078401 LetThemEatRand
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Miley Cyrus.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 13:11 | 4079876 Kobe Beef
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Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:38 | 4079164 DanDaley
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If things in the black community are bad, you really need to take a look at how the history of Democrats (and I am well aware that a lot of people here hate the Democrat/Republican paradigm -and that makes sense nowdays to an increasing degree) has been one of naked aggression toward blacks.  

They realized in the 1960's that if they didn't change their attitude towards blacks that they would never win another election. Hence, the quote from LBJ concerning giving blacks the goodies: "I'll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." Quite a statement from a guy who stole his first congressional election.


Here are some other highlights about Democrats concerning blacks:


* Democrats fought to expand slavery while Republicans fought to end it.


* Democrats passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.


* Democrats fought against anti-lynching laws.


* Democrats fought to keep blacks in slavery and away from the polls, and they started the Ku Klux Klan to terrorize them.


* Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, is well known for having been a "Keagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.


* Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage.


* Democrats passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Republicans.


* Democrats declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than vote for a Republican, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.


* Democrat President Woodrow Wilson, reintroduced segregation throughout the federal government immediately upon taking office in 1913.


* Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt's first appointment to the Supreme Court was a life member of the Ku Klux Klan, Sen. Hugo Black, Democrat of Alabama.


* Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt's choice for vice president in 1944 was Harry Truman, who had joined the Ku Klux Klan in Kansas City in 1922.


* Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt resisted Republican efforts to pass a federal law against lynching.


* Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed integration of the armed forces.


* Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd were the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.


* Democrat public safety commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor, in Birmingham, Ala., unleashed vicious dogs and turned fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators.


* Democrats were who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protestors were fighting.


* Democrat Georgia Governor Lester Maddox "brandished an ax hammer to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant.


* Democrat Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963, declaring there would be segregation forever.


* Democrat Arkansas Governor Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of Little Rock public schools.


* Democrat Senator John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act.


* Democrat President John F. Kennedy opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King.


* Democrat President John F. Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI.


* Democrat President Bill Clinton's mentor was U.S. Senator J. William Fulbright, an Arkansas Democrat and a supporter of racial segregation.


* Democrat President Bill Clinton interned for J. William Fulbright in 1966-67.


* Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright signed the Southern Manifesto opposing the Supreme Court's 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.


* Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright joined with the Dixiecrats in filibustering the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964.


* Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.


Tue, 10/22/2013 - 14:11 | 4080114 g'kar
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Nice history lesson, thanks!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:04 | 4078417 aerojet
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The War on Drugs did that.  It's not what you think it is.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:03 | 4078416 aerojet
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Exactly.  In 1864 you'd think the world was ending, but it didn't.  Just because the shit doesn't happen the way you want it to or expet it to doesn't mean it's all over.  

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:51 | 4078785 Urban Redneck
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Lay off the booze, it clouds the reason.

The lynching, both white of black and white of white was "social justice"

The current day black of black lynching and neclacing in Africa is "social justice"

And yet we have ass-clowns on TV calling for MOAR "social justice"

I think you would have to suffer from some mental defect like SEVERE nihilism or relativism to seriously equate what is going on today (anecdotally) in the US to what went on decades ago in the US.

Although I am not sure that there is actually even a statistically significant uptick in incidences, since (anecdotally) back before the 24-hr news cycle and everyone carrying cell phone camera, I got to witness about a dozen (white) guys beating the shit out of a joo. Strictly speaking some uppity DA could certainly classify it as a "hate crime", but the joo was a smart-alek POS and the other guys were violence-prone and looking for "entertainment" and even if he wasn't a joo they would have did they did. Unfortunately (for me) the Jew was my friend and it never even occurred to me that there was an option not to intervene. Even if I were sober at the time, the realistic chances of winning a 12-1 engagement are ZERO, so I was lucky to be able to walk/limp away from that, and I didn't even need Obamacare; not that an ER actually does anything more than a glorified version of putting a band-aid on the boo-boo and kissing it to make you feel better when your dealing with a black eye, broken nose, cracked rib(s), bruises and minor lacerations.

So anecdotally, ignorant dumb-fucks who think that offensive violence is an acceptable "recreational activity" need to be REMOVED from society, a judge can remove them or a lynch mob can remove them- to me it makes no difference, but the latter method is more error prone and there is no appeal process However, when things get bad enough and State justice fails Society, such as with the "brown-on-brown" violence in Mexico, "social justice" rears its ugly head, the US is not immune.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:15 | 4078331 sylviasays
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Now no need to bring up facts here.  Those gangs of black youths beating on white folks could be ObaMao's kids.  

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 03:42 | 4078604 sessinpo
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Think about what you just posted. If violent crime is an all time low and you expect mean reversion, then violent crime should go up to at least the average.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:26 | 4077796 BLOTTO
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It will sorta look like Back to the Future Part II...but,

...BEFORE Marty McFly takes back Grays 'Sports Almanac 1950-2000' from Biff


They arrive on October 21, 2015


EDIT: Two years to the day to go...:)

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:38 | 4077827 booboo
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Yea, I'm thinking 3rd quarter 2015 should be just about right. American will become real stealing anything not nailed down, it's for the children after all.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:26 | 4077800 Trimmed Hedge
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One thing most of those incidents have in common?

They occurred in the city...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:31 | 4077809 MisterMousePotato
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You, Sir (?), should be our ambassador to, well, anywhere.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:54 | 4077858 Waffen
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I stopped reading after the dead baby.. All stories to that point including that one were perpetrated by black people.

Blacks have a low IQ are impulsive,
violent and commit violent crime at 6x whites.

Stay away from blacks and black neighborhoods.

America was 90% white during the Great Depression. Americans had, race, religion, and culture in common. Today we are diverse in language, culture and race. Low be to those that are minorities in their respective regions. When times become hard, people revert to their natural state, tribalism.

The Jews that perpetrated the 1965 immigration act won't reap what they have sown, sadly we won't be spared. I suspect this is going to be a mess on par with the 30 years war.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:05 | 4077919 chubbar
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#2 is a race crime, but no charges relating to that will be filed because it is black on white. Most, if not all, of those stories are black criminals but we are callling them "americans" or "youths" or some other title.

Why can't we just all acknowledge we have a horrendous black crime problem in the U.S.? I'm not saying the other races aren't committing crimes but just look at the shit the blacks are doing on a regular basis, and it is all being ignored by the MSM. When TSHTF, you had better be well away from these neighborhoods (all other times as well, IMO).

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:09 | 4077927 yabyum
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Wafen, Your name says it all: Douche.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:14 | 4077950 Waffen
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I am a douche for stating the obvious or becuase I hurt your lil feelings?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:22 | 4077974 LetThemEatRand
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Germany -- run by white guys who hated blacks, gypsies and apparently some other groups -- killed millions and millions of people in WWII.  They used poison gas and flame throwers and all other kinds of horrible ways to kill people.  They did so because they believed they were superior to other races and cultures.   Nice looking white guys lined up by the thousands to kill for a douche with a stupid mustache who gave good speeches.  And they had just gone through a terrible economic depression so they were pissed and wanted revenge.    How does that fit into your explanation of human behavior based on race and culture?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:28 | 4077992 Waffen
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Most of what you just listed is bullshit, you don't know it, but it's mostly propaganda. You won't believe me, but I don't care. There is no excuse, however, in this age of easily obtainable information to still be so willfully ignorant of world war 2.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:33 | 4078017 LetThemEatRand
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That's easy, then.  Tell me what is wrong and I'll go look it up for you if you're too lazy and stupid.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:57 | 4078098 Waffen
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"hated blacks" yet had some in German military service? Funny that America had Jim Crow but Germans hated blacks is some kind of valid arguement?

"hated gypsies" well everyone hates gypsies that have experienced them

"other groups". ok yes they hated Bolsheviks as well they should have

"killed millions and millions of people in WWII." and Russia, Britain and US did not? or is this in reference to the holohoax?

"poison gas" uh, got any physical evidence of that?

"flame throwers" and America didnt?

"other kinds of horrible ways to kill people." like NUKES? is this in reference to hear say, holohoax tripe?

"they were superior to other races and cultures." most whites of the time felt this way, yet Germany respected all races including their own

"Nice looking white guys lined up by the thousands to kill for a douche with a stupid mustache who gave good speeches." Well this is a nice characterization based on what exactly? Nothing to do with fighting Bolshevism, protecting ethnic Germans or anything like that?

"And they had just gone through a terrible economic depression so they were pissed and wanted revenge."
Revenge against those that perpetrated injustices upon them? You think Americans will think kindly on those that perpetrated America's destruction?

"How does that fit into your explanation of human behavior based on race and culture?" Races wanting what is best for their race and posterity is natural.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:04 | 4078129 LetThemEatRand
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"killed millions and millions of people in WWII." and Russia, Britain and US did not? or is this in reference to the holohoax?"

There it is.  First, yes, whites running Russia, Britain and U.S. also killed millions.  So again, your basic point that blacks are inherently violent is merely confirming that they are also inherently violent.  As for the "holohoax," I think it's fair to say that I could spend the rest of the night trying to convince you that your racist views are based on self-loathing and low intelligence, but I won't convince you.  I'm not keen on hitting my head against brick walls.  Carry on and enjoy the meetings.  

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:09 | 4078146 James_Cole
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LTER, you're arguing race with a guy named WAFFEN who said black people are inherently lower IQ....methinks the guy may not be the most open-minded of folks. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:12 | 4078156 LetThemEatRand
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At least we can rest assured his head will explode when he finds out his Klan leader is a blind black dude.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:15 | 4078170 James_Cole
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At least we can rest assured his head will explode when he finds out his Klan leader is a blind black dude.

lol yeah, this was a classic too (though real):

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:16 | 4078172 Running On Bing...
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I'm with you two. There should only be one view, the right view. Heil right view!

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:17 | 4078177 Waffen
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So 100 years of IQ tests are irrelevant now? Are we pretending this research isn't widely available since the 1980s?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:25 | 4078194 James_Cole
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Yeah, I'm sure you're totally right, all the same I'd love to see you have a debate with Banyaga on symplectic topology, certainly a great showcase for demonstrating your superior IQ.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:21 | 4078182 Waffen
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"not open minded". Au contraire, one does not embrace holocaust revision and break from years of indoctrination without one.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:41 | 4078236 PrintemDano
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It's not racism it's the truth.  Blacks are overwhelmingly "reared" by a combination in descending order of probabilty by 1] nobody, completely feral.  2] Gangs, designed criminal feral. 3] Grandma who sometimes tries to reign them in but is pretty powerless with no respectable male in the house.  4] Baby Mama, who is only intersted in having more babies with different Daddy's to increase the free cash from dotgov. 5] Mom and Dad, diamonds in the rough, who try to do the right thing.     The problem is liberalism saying there is no need to have a Mom and Dad married raising the child with the Father as the head of the house, demanding discipline.  The other is free money from the working people in this country stolen by dotgov in order to buy the votes of the feral animals and feral breeders. 

Now Mr LetthemeatRand shouldn't you be on the obamadon'tcare site trying to git ya su free helfcare?



Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:23 | 4078350 LetThemEatRand
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So I guess the greater than 50% of white parents are divorced statistic doesn't mean the same thing for white people as you just said about blacks? 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:44 | 4078384 buyingsterling
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BS statistic. Let's have a link showing that 50% of white kids are born out of wedlock or raised outside a nuclear family. Stow your lies, whiny liberal twat.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:59 | 4078410 LetThemEatRand
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So the truth is liberal, then?  Show me the other statistic.  

P.S.  Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber, New Kids on the Block, the Kardashians, selfies, etc.  Go fuck yourself you fucking coward who blames everyone but yourself for your problems.  Take some personal responsibility. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:13 | 4078432 buyingsterling
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I have kids and I raise them right. They are kind to others of all races and they defend the weak against bullies. And they're girls. And I don't have any racial problems. I'll go out of my way to help anyone, regardless of race, but I'll also go out of my way to avoid trouble. I work about 15 hours a day and I pay an assload of taxes so that a lot of people can have zero 'skin in the game'.

So go fuck yourself, you condescending piece of shit. Here's the statistics you asked for:

"Yesterday the federal government released its latest figures on births in the United States, including out-of-wedlock births. The numbers are very close to last year’s: 72.3 percent of non-Hispanic blacks are now born out-of-wedlock; 66.2 percent of American Indians/Alaska Natives; 53.3 percent of Hispanics; 29.1 percent of non-Hispanic whites; and 17.2 percent of Asians/Pacific Islanders. That’s 40.7 percent overall: a disaster."

Piss off, wanker.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:28 | 4078444 LetThemEatRand
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So the Asians are the better race, then?   Got us whities by almost a 2:1 margin on your metric of superior races.   So I guess they are twice as good as us.   They do, in fact, do it Gangnam style.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:35 | 4078456 TheMeatTrapper
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I agree with your point that racial groups that value racial homogeneity, preservation of traditional cultural values and family cohesion fare better than racial groups that do not. 

Thank you for pointing that out. 


Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:47 | 4078463 LetThemEatRand
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Asians kick White ass again!   Put some hot wax on it bitch, and I'll wear a diaper.  Yes! (or Hai! for you enlightened motherfuckers)

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:25 | 4078448 James_Cole
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This puts it into perspective:

One also needs to remember there are a lot more white folks, so by extension a lot more unmarried white folks having babies. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:17 | 4078436 TheMeatTrapper
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It's deplorable that 50% of white parents divorce. 

  • 73% of black babies are born out of wedlock
  • 53% of Latino babies are born out of wedlock
  • 29% of white babies are born out of wedlock

I can see your point that whites are the problem. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:45 | 4078060 chubbar
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If you are replying to me LTER then I don't see the relevance? I'm born and raised in the Northeast US, wasn't alive during Germany's issues you stated and don't really care. You want to go back through history and pick out every race that committed atrocities then go for it, I'm sure there are plenty for each race around. I'm talking about here in the US and what is going on now, and it doesn't cut it for me. You think some dumb fucking black dudes in Chicago that are out breaking heads for fun are doing it because Germany killed blacks 60 years ago? If not, then why bring it up? This isn't some racial superiority story, this is about a pile of assholes that are of a specific race that just don't have the moral wherewithall to make it in this society, at fucking all. I mean they just don't fucking care about anyone as evidenced by their collective actions. I don't know why and don't really give a fuck but I'm going to point it out and if you can't take the truth then just skip past the commentary. Trying to draw a parallel between Germany of 1930's and the black community of 2013 is pretty weak. Are you saying that the U.S. "run by white guys who hated blacks" are planning to kill blacks because they feel superior? What is your point? Because I'm seeing blacks killing white people, not because they feel superior or threatened but because they think it is fun. Quite a difference in scenarios so I'm sorry but I think you dropped the ball on the comparison.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:54 | 4078085 LetThemEatRand
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America killed exponentially more brown people in the last decade than black people killed white people in America in that same time frame.  No doubt some asshole racist blacks have killed some white people in America, just as many asshole racist whites have killed blacks.  You're point is that you feel threatened by black people.  So you are scared.  Go climb in a hole.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:02 | 4078126 Waffen
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"just as many asshole racist whites killed blacks"

please prove this to us in the uniform crime statistics becuase you are in for a big surprise

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:06 | 4078135 LetThemEatRand
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Don't government statistics also support the "holohoax" as you call it?  So which ones are convincing to you and which are not?  Just those that fit your agenda?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:48 | 4078389 buyingsterling
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Nice try. FBi crime statistics are about real crimes (the reported ones, at least) not about forensic history from 70 years ago.

I bet you're even a fucking hypocrite. From what you write, I would wager that you have not spent a lot of time around anonymous young black Americans. If you had, you'd know that only an idiot doesn't approach them with caution. Can you honestly say that given the opportunity to cross the street, you'd be no more likely to do so when a group of young black males is headed your way than if a group of young whites or asians is headed your way? Let's have an answer, so that we can tell if you're a hypocrite, a liar, or a fucking moron.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:29 | 4078207 Godisanhftbot
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 You're  exponentially full of shit. ie Shit^100

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:12 | 4078322 chubbar
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You are just completely full of shit LTER. Are you referencing "brown" people killed by America as the folks the gov't killed overseas? IF so, then I completely agree and that is an abomination. Guess what, I don't and didn't support that. Assuming you are a US citizen, you are as guilty as I am in that. How can you equate a supposed military action (which neither of us support) to a bunch of fucking psycopathic inner city youths wandering around killing/beating white people at random because of their race??? There is extremely low rates of white on black crime these past 20 years or so, can't vouch for earlier. Right now the black on white crime is exploding. Why are you so afraid of the truth? Why can't you accept facts?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:14 | 4078351 LetThemEatRand
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Now imagine if the blacks had drones with hellfire missiles.  Nevermind.  They could never kill that many people.  The Klan would stop them.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:19 | 4078439 TheMeatTrapper
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Why don't African nations have drones with Hellfire missiles?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 00:39 | 4078458 LetThemEatRand
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Because they are not as good at killing people remotely.  America.  Fuck Yeah!  Fucking savages using knives and guns.   Wait, wasn't this article about how society has degenerated because too many people are being killed?  Maybe I missed the point and the article was about which society had a better funded MIC.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 01:29 | 4078522 Jam
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You sound like a fat white women married to a black. Are you?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:15 | 4078162 Waffen
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his argument is typical of the anti-white left

Blacks are statistically more violent. "hitler, nazi, racist"
oppose immigration? "hitler, nazi, racist"
don't want your community enriched "hitler, nazi, racist"
white flight? "hitler, nazi, racist"
don't want to be a minority in your own country? "hitler, nazi, racist"
don't like blacks randomly beating up and or killing white people for fun? "hitler, nazi, racist"

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:22 | 4078183 LetThemEatRand
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One more thought and then I'll leave you to your racist rants.

Nothing I said is anti-white.  To you, it is anti-white to point out that whites also do bad shit and that our "problem" is not race-based at all.   You are a scared little man who sees demons in people who are different.  It's easier for you to blame your utter failures as a human being on someone else, especially someone different.  I get it.   Now go board up your home and climb in your hole you scared little man.


Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:57 | 4078407 buyingsterling
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There are literally about five million black men in this country who don't care what you think about race and won't ask - if they have the opportunity they will beat you and break your bones because you are white. That's the issue, dickhead. We know how they got that way: mix low IQ with high testosterone, toss in a feeling of victimhood and entitlement, add a sense of empowerment 'because Obama', and suddenly you're being stomped to death because you're white. In almost every city there are areas where you cannot tread if you are white for fear of losing your property and life. You can't say the same about the reverse. The pity party/excuse factory has not worked out well for blacks, and it will all end very badly: only the thin veneer of order keeps millions of them in check, and if they go unchecked, only the protection of .gov will keep many of them alive because whites are finally getting it - young blacks - males especially but increasingly females as well - are dangerous and they celebrate the kind of senseless violence which makes all good people want to puke. We won't be taking chances because we feel 'white guilt'.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:16 | 4078832 I am a Man I am...
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maybe we shouldn't have enslaved them like fucking animals and brought them over here, they might not have such poor attitudes, maybe we should have treated them with respect and honored the "golden rule", if someone tries to attack you, just fucking shoot them, no matter what the color, we've created a shitty society because it sucks from the top down, and the top ain't a bunch of blacks, so why don't you go mentor a black youth if you are so fucking worried about it, but you would never do that, because in reality you are what you are, don't forget how we treated the indians as well, i think i see a pattern, now look what we are doing all over the world, so let's clean up our own shit first, maybe lead by example, then we can criticize the inner city mob free shit army mentality that white democrats created to buy votes

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:20 | 4077977 Tim_
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Up to 28 black men and boys 'filmed gang rape' of 11-year-old girl on their mobile phones

"A defence prosecutor today claimed up to 28 men and boys may have been involved in the filmed gang rape of an 11-year-old girl."

"At the moment only 18 suspects aged between 14 and 27 are accused of taking part in the rape last Thanksgiving in an abandoned mobile home in Cleveland, Texas."

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:45 | 4078061 Godisanhftbot
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 It's an old news story. From the mug shots, I'd guess 99% of them have graduated University by now and are working in high paying jobs.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:09 | 4078315 Tim_
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There has been no mention of this case in the mainstream media. If 28 White men gang-raped an 11-year-old girl, then the jews would talk about it on television for decades.

For example, everyone has heard of Matthew Shepard. Shortly after Shepard was killed, a thirteen-year-old White boy named Jesse Dirkhising was kidnapped and sodomized to death by two homosexual pedophiles. There was zero coverage of Jesse Dirkhising's torture and subsequent murder on television.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:08 | 4078144 Hulk
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Dead baby in the middle of the road

Dead baby in the middle of the road

Dead baby in the middle of the road

stinkin to high heaven !!!

/junk away, I deserve it !!!

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:16 | 4078333 Tim_
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Yue Yue, the girl who shamed China, is dead: Two-year-old run over TWICE as dozens of people ignored her lying in the road succumbs to her injuries

"The Chinese girl left bleeding in a road after being run over by two different vehicles and then ignored by 18 passersby has finally died."

"Horrific video footage emerged earlier this week of two-year-old Wang Yue - known as Yue Yue - being knocked down by a van in Foshan, a city in the southern province of Guandong."

"As she bleeds on the narrow street more than a dozen people walk or cycle past her for the next seven minutes before a second truck runs over her."

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:54 | 4077874 Ness.
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I'm surprised there was no mention of the wildings happening on Chicago's "Magnificent Mile,"  Michigan Avenue.  For the last several years groups of teens have been attacking and robbing tourists without much media attention.  My buddy is a cop in that district and can't believe how bad it has gotten.

(CBS) — The warmest day of the year so far brought hundreds of teens to Michigan Avenue on Saturday. Police were calling it “mob action.”

Hundreds of teens littered Michigan Avenue and State Street near Chicago.

In all, 25 juveniles and three adults were charged.

Community activist Andrew Holmes witnessed some of the problems, while shopping with his family.

“You had a group of teens, close to maybe 500. They assaulted a Chicago police officer that was mounted on a horse and all of a sudden they assaulted a citizen walking the streets, just a normal citizen shopping and enjoying the weather,” said Holmes.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:12 | 4077941 chubbar
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Any chance these thugs were black? If so, why not just bring that to the attention of the reader? Is it not an important fact? If it was several races, that is important as well.

My point is that I think we do need to call out the race of gangs and crime because we have assholes like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton jumping on any potential white on black crime as a fucking holocaust instead of the relative insignificance it rates to the overall picture of racial violence.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:24 | 4077986 Ness.
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Any chance these thugs were black? 


Haha.  That's funny... yea, they were black.  When was the last time you heard about a group of 500 white kids from the south side of Chicago beating tourists on the Mag Mile?  Don't ya think BO, JJ and Rev Al would have something to say about it if there were a bunch of white kids beating on old black "folks" for funzies?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:01 | 4078118 RafterManFMJ
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Why don't you SHUT UP you worthless Nigger hater?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:48 | 4078255 PrintemDano
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Go ahead and stroll through some desolate black area in a major city around 2AM tonight then come back and call him a racist tomorrow. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:14 | 4079722 RafterManFMJ
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Yes, my post was out-of-line.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:26 | 4077801 toxic8
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I know the kid in Brooklyn. Sad, many of these revolve around modern day Babylon. Im overdue on booking it the fuck outta this soul suckin shit hole..

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:27 | 4077802 IridiumRebel
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I'm sure the MRAPs will be a nice upgrade for our freshly militarized Police(read storm troopers).

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:51 | 4077808 Dr. Engali
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Sure the country is going to hell in a hand basket ,and bad shit happens out there, but I can remember a lot of this same crap when I was growing up. We just hear of it more due to the speed of information.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 03:00 | 4078581 quartshort
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fast forward to 4:46... this thread needs some comic relief.

Shit happens everywhere. Know your surroundings. Tread lightly and carry a stick. Preferably one that expels zombie repellant.

Is it midnight yet? I got to get to wallyworld - EBT race for the cure.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:33 | 4077811 ebworthen
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When highly evolved baboons reject something greater than themselves, and the rule-of-law is abandoned, and there is nothing but lies and propaganda - what did we expect would happen?

Clothes, shoes, cars, appearances - monkey want banana.

Monkey do whatever it takes to get banana.

Monkey break branches, and skulls.

Monkeys out of control.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:48 | 4077862 knukles
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Grace, my man, beautiful grace

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:43 | 4078243 Supernova Born
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