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This Lack Of Syrian Aggression Will Not Stand, Man: Saudi's Bandar Bin Sultan Furious At US

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That Saudi Arabia has been furious at the US for refusing to be the monarchy's puppet Globocop, and in the last minute declining to bomb Syria following Putin's gambit in which World War III seemed a distinctly possible consequence of John Kerry's hamheaded "YouTube-substantiated" false flag campaign, is no secret. However, while the US has largely forgotten this latest foreign policy debacle and the humiliation it brought upon the Department of State, Saudi Arabia is nowhere close to forgetting. Or forgiving. And this time the anger comes from the one man who truly matters, and whom we dubbed several months ago as the puppetmaster behind the Syrian campaign: the man in charge of Saudi intelligence, Prince Bandar Bin Sultan.

The WSJ reports overnight, that Prince Bandar told European diplomats this weekend that he plans to scale back cooperating with the U.S. to arm and train Syrian rebels in protest of Washington's policy in the region, participants in the meeting said.  This demonstratively framed announcement follows Saudi Arabia's surprise decision on Friday to renounce a seat on the United Nations Security Council. "The Saudi government, after preparing and campaigning for the seat for a year, cited what it said was the council's ineffectiveness in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian and Syrian conflicts."

In short: Bin Sultan has decided to take the stage and make it quite clear that this lack of aggression by the US will not stand. The question is: what can or will he do?

Diplomats here said Prince Bandar, who is leading the kingdom's efforts to fund, train and arm rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, invited a Western diplomat to the Saudi Red Sea city of Jeddah over the weekend to voice Riyadh's frustration with the Obama administration and its regional policies, including the decision not to bomb Syria in response to its alleged use of chemical weapons in August.

 

"This was a message for the U.S., not the U.N.," Prince Bandar was quoted by diplomats as specifying of Saudi Arabia's decision to walk away from the Security Council membership.

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U.S. officials said they interpreted Prince Bandar's message to the Western diplomat as an expression of discontent designed to push the U.S. in a different direction. "Obviously he wants us to do more," said a senior U.S. official.

Obviously. What is odd is that the "proxy" intelligence chief appears to have usurped foreign policy decision-making from the Saudi king himself.

Top decisions in Saudi Arabia come from the king, Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al Saud, and it isn't known if Prince Bandar's reported remarks reflected a decision by the monarch, or an effort by Prince Bandar to influence the king. However, the diplomats said, Prince Bandar told them he intends to roll back a partnership with the U.S. in which the Central Intelligence Agency and other nations' security bodies have covertly helped train Syrian rebels to fight Mr. Assad, Prince Bandar said, according to the diplomats. Saudi Arabia would work with other allies instead in that effort, including Jordan and France, the prince was quoted as saying.

If there was any confusion that the entire Syrian campaign was purely at the behest of the Qataris and the Saudis as we first suggested in May, it can finally be put to bed.

The monarchy was particularly angered by Mr. Obama's decision to scrap plans to bomb Syria in response to the alleged chemical-weapons attack in August and, more recently, tentative overtures between Mr. Obama and Iran's new president.

 

Diplomats and officials familiar with events recounted two previously undisclosed episodes during the buildup to the aborted Western strike on Syria that allegedly further unsettled the Saudi-U.S. relationship.

 

In the run-up to the expected U.S. strikes, Saudi leaders asked for detailed U.S. plans for posting Navy ships to guard the Saudi oil center, the Eastern Province, during any strike on Syria, an official familiar with that discussion said. The Saudis were surprised when the Americans told them U.S. ships wouldn't be able to fully protect the oil region, the official said.

 

Disappointed, the Saudis told the U.S. that they were open to alternatives to their long-standing defense partnership, emphasizing that they would look for good weapons at good prices, whatever the source, the official said.

 

In the second episode, one Western diplomat described Saudi Arabia as eager to be a military partner in what was to have been the U.S.-led military strikes on Syria. As part of that, the Saudis asked to be given the list of military targets for the proposed strikes. The Saudis indicated they never got the information, the diplomat said.

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"The Saudis are very upset. They don't know where the Americans want to go," said a senior European diplomat not in Riyadh.

To be sure, not just Prccne Bandar is angry - everyone else in Saudi is now fuming at Obama too:

In Washington in recent days, Saudi officials have privately complained to U.S. lawmakers that they increasingly feel cut out of U.S. decision-making on Syria and Iran. A senior American official described the king as "angry."

 

Another senior U.S. official added: "Our interests increasingly don't align."

Fair enough: but what can it do? It is no secret, that as the primary hub of the petrodollar system which is instrumental to keeping the dollar's reserve status, Saudi has no choice but to cooperate with the US, or else risk even further deterioration of the USD reserve status. A development which would certainly please China... and Russia, both of which are actively engaging in Plan B preparations for the day when the USD is merely the latest dethroned reserve currency on the scrap heap of all such formerly world-dominant currencies.

Perhaps the only party that Saudi can lash out at, since it certainly fears escalating its animosity with the US even more, is Russia. And perhaps it did yesterday, when as we reported, a suicide-bombing terrorist incident captured on a dashcam killed many people, and was supposedly organized by an Islamist extremist - of the kind that Bandar told Putin several months ago are controlled and funded by Saudi intelligence chief.

If true, and if Saudi wants to project its impotence vis-a-vis the US by attacking Russia, this will likely culminate with the Sochi winter Olympics. So will Prince Bandar be crazy enough to take on none other than the former KGB chief? And more importantly, just like in the US Syrian fiasco, what happens when and if Putin retaliates against the true power that holds the USD in place?

 


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Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:35 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"Get back in there and turn that war machine on." - Prince Bandar Bin Sultan

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:38 | Link to Comment Millivanilli
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But, John Kohn said, we know ... like 666 times.  

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYhq3Ki2msE

 

And if we know it, why in the heck do we have to prove it?   It isn't like govts/corp are the most sociopathic, unaccountabe, and muderous institutions on the planet.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:38 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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War! What is it good for?

<"Absolutely everything." - Prince Bandar Bin Sultan>

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:39 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Just stop buying our bonds FATTIE!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:31 | Link to Comment AlaricBalth
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"...US decision making on Syria and Iran."

And therein lies the problem.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:47 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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In Washington in recent days, Saudi officials have privately complained to U.S. lawmakers that they increasingly feel cut out of U.S. decision-making on Syria and Iran. A senior American official described the king as "angry." 

if anyone ever needed evidence that US officials don't work for US citizens here it is

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:21 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Agreed.  Prince Sandbar can go fuck a syphillitic camel and die humping a defunct oil derrick.  Self-annointed rag-head billionaires made rich by the oil pimps from the US seek to bite the hand that feeds them? I'd rather pedal a bicycle genset for the rest of my life then send these arrogant sandrats another buck.  If they aren't glassed over by the Israeli's then let the Russians teach the ignorant towel-turbaned a-holes what it feels like to be bent over...

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:15 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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...next time, don't sugarcoat your comments.

But many feel as you do, myself included, I'm just not so colorful in writing it out.

DaddyO

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Flagit
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a bicycle genset is fairly cheap to procure, and, it suddenly makes the family next door with 5 kids (mini power plants) a much more viable option.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:59 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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I like the Saudi threat - we won't help you arm and train Syrian rebels anymore. Good. That's a good thing for the Middle East and the world in general. Please, feel free to punish us some more.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment SDShack
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 Be careful what you wish for. I may get downvoted for this, but there are MUCH bigger long term strategies at play in the ME, all traced to the root problem of Sunni vs. Shiite. The Saudis are absolutely terrified of Iran getting the bomb, and there is no doubt that is what Iran's goal is. It's the only way Iran can change the balance of power in the ME forever to their side, and so nothing will stop them from achieving it.

Note this warning from Bandar... they would look for good weapons at good prices, whatever the source, the official said.

Hello Pakistan. We will gladly buy your nuke technology. It will be Iran going nuclear, then Saudi Arabia, then Egypt. Don't get me wrong. I am not advocating another US war in the ME to stop Iran or anyone else. But people are seriously deluding themselves if they think nuclear armed Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, all with huge contingents of radical muslems controling the nukes is not a threat to the world. Israel is the real wildcard now. They have to know they are being abandoned by the US. Regardless of whether or not you think that is good or bad, Israel will react in their own best interest. They always have. Once the Israeli bombs start falling on Iran, no one will be able to predict what will happen. No one.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:27 | Link to Comment Omen IV
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Putin is changing the equation that has existed for twenty years with the us in syria and iran for "starters" - if bandar is playing games with extremists in southern russia he is way overestimating who he is - he hasnt been tested

these guys all are playing with fire and half a deck

 

between Bibbi, Bandar and Boehner - it seems the "B" team is all about war when they dont pay the price

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:55 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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Israel are secret allies. Israel wants the water of the Golan and Lebanon which the Syrians and Iran, via proxies, control. The Saudis want a gas pipeline route to offset Russia's monopoly of supply to Europe. The Saudis also need to check the Shias, Iran, in the Middle-East.

This means another 9/11 like false-flag coming our way. If you live in a large major city--move!

 

Any doubters should review Israel and the USS Liberty and the Saudis' role in 9/11.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:39 | Link to Comment waterwitch
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What can Prince Bandar do? How about challenging Bashar al-Assad to a cage fight and having it air on Pay per View?  I'd watch that!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:39 | Link to Comment whirling tword ...
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maybe he could slip in a puddle of AIDS and die of ass cancer.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment jmc8888
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Well considering he is a former top gun pilot for the Saudi Arabian air force and personally picked and funded some of the 9/11 hijackers....he can do quite a bit actually. 

So Bandar Bin Sultan + 9/11 + Sochi = potential for somethign big.

It's in those 28 pages Obama promised to unredact but won't.

He is literally the most influential figure this millenium and few even know who he is. 

 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:03 | Link to Comment Keyser
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Fuck you Bandar!!! You have had the US by the balls for decades due to crude oil supplies. Well, the shoe is about to be on the other foot, so take your 1973 treaty with Henry Kissinger and shove it up your self-righteous ass. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:54 | Link to Comment BlackVoid
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"You have had the US by the balls for decades due to crude oil supplies."

How exactly, when the US keeps the saudi royal family in power?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:02 | Link to Comment Real Estate Geek
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Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:49 | Link to Comment MarsInScorpio
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The US keeps the royal family in power because if they fall, the oil supply to the US from all the Saudi sycophants falls with them - not to mention (but I will anyway) - the reserve currency status of the dollar.

 

We need them more than they need us.

 

Unfortunately for the Sunnis, the Muslim in the WH is playing for the Shiites . . . it's only a matter of time before a fatwa is issued on Obama by the Sunnis.

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Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Unfortunately for the Sunnis, the Muslim in the WH is playing for the Shiites

I guess you haven't been paying attention to the Kenyan wing of the Obamas have you. Follow the money or in their case the Daw'ah. It doesn't swing Shiite. As the old commercial went to paraphrase and bastardize the Muslim Brotherhood isn't your Daddies Sunni Cadilliac.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:49 | Link to Comment nofluer
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We need them more than they need us.

That was yesterday. this is today and the word of the day is "fracking."

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:32 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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The Saudis are a bunch of greedy slime balls fearful of their own "Arab Spring" revolt if they don't gouge moar money from the West selling nat gas in a pipeline through Syria.

That's what this shit is all about. So watch for moar public beheading in Saudi to scare the shit out of the populace. But that will only ignite the uprising and the royals get beheaded.

It's the French Revolution deja vu all over again!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:26 | Link to Comment whirling tword ...
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THAT is a scary thought....   That would put the petro-dollar in jeopardy very, very quickly.  Alas, there would be many more brown people to kill... many more bombs to drop... many more jihads to put an end to.

China is in a spot not so different.  They're pretty scared of the peasants too.  Doesn't bode well for us either... usually when peasants revolt, it's not really the U.S. they want to be in bed with...  usually, the U.S. was one of their oppressers.

These are interesting times we live in.... that's for sure.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:42 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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We pump oil out of the ground for you....and you won't send your sons and daughters to die for us?

Well that just sucks!

 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:43 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"Has anyone else noticed that all these second and third class nations are getting a little uppity lately?" - Barrack (Daddy WarBucks) Obama

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:46 | Link to Comment booboo
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"and for being such insolent infidels you will not be allowed to bow to smootch  the Royal Scrotum or smell my fat crack cheese"

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:07 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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PRINCE BANDAR W BUSHANI

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:24 | Link to Comment Widowmaker
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That is a good one Banzai!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:37 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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This is a weird picture because his eyes are looking in the right direction but his face/nose is twisting the other way...

I like the dissonant vibe created by it...like something is screwed up here.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:56 | Link to Comment phaedrus1952
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... like something is screwed up here ... Yeah, whenever one deals with the Creature From Crawford there is bound to be something amiss.  Great work as always, Mr. Banzai.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 16:15 | Link to Comment Ferrari
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You're a very good man, William. We very much appreciate your well-directed depravity. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:18 | Link to Comment falak pema
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WB7 : hilarious.

BTW according to local parlese in India, Bandar means Monkey. So there in this photo shopped rendering you have delivered us the monkey of monkeys; Hanuman's avatar on earth himself. Bushy tailed Dubya.

As a contribution to your artistic culture I would like to present you this link to a great french artist who was of that early 1900 period : Félix Valloton.

Here is a small article about his paintings; N° 3 in this post is an interesting black and white women painting with a lot of powerful undercurrents which I am sure you will appreciate, especially if you read french and the details of the excellent journalistic summary of his work.

http://www.rue89.com/rue89-culture/2013/10/19/les-chambres-mysterieuses-...

PS : Maybe you know of this guy in which case you are the tops as he is not well known in France.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:08 | Link to Comment MontgomeryScott
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WB7 hit the nail on the head!

ARBUSTO!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:35 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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indeed, as long as the subtext is read as 2 heads rearing from the same Poppy seed.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:35 | Link to Comment Jumbotron
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Here's a snippet of a movie concerning the Bush Bandar connection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWhddxjdr2I

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:29 | Link to Comment WillyGroper
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Wow! Just like Sicko, this needs to be released. While I don't always agree with his positions, Michael Moore exposes these money grubbing POS's for what they are. 

Junk away.

 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:24 | Link to Comment Jumbotron
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Even a fat liberal prick can shine the light on the truth once in a while.  It takes courage to tamp down your ideological knee-jerk reaction when confronted with that fact.....and just let the truth be spoken....no matter the spokesperson.  As the Bible states.....God uses the foolish sometimes to confound the wise.

Soon enough....Moore will make a verifiable asshole of himself.  But until then.......

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:52 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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By George, I like the use of the subtext!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:09 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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CUT THE FUCKING MONEY OFF.....................

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:19 | Link to Comment Mr. Fix
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One thing that has the Saudi government so upset, is that Barack Obama is actually a Saudi agent,  and was placed in power by the Saudi Arabian government. From their perspective, Barack Obama is not just a traitor to the United States, he has become a traitor to the Saudis who actually pull his strings.

 Listen to this interview by a man who is in a position to know this to be true:

http://www.davejanda.com/guests/dr-jim-garrow/sunday-october-20-2013 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:23 | Link to Comment Disenchanted
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With a lot of help from the Axelrods, Crowns, Pritzkers and Saltzmans, etc., etc. of the world.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:50 | Link to Comment john39
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no shit.  anyone ever hear of the power of the Saudi lobby in Washington DC?  me either.  SA is just a proxy, we know who is pulling bandar's strings... and he isn't happy about the appalling lack of bombing Syria and Iran either.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:21 | Link to Comment old naughty
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He's been had.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:00 | Link to Comment Freddie
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The Saudis are such evil scum.  Prince Bandhar Bush needs a polonium cocktail. F him and the Saudis.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:36 | Link to Comment CPL
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For a country one earthquake away from losing all of it's oil from tectonic expansion and salt dome erosion it talks alot of smack.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:41 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Yea cause waiting for an earthquake is a lot easier than waitin for your folks to croak.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:43 | Link to Comment waterwitch
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Exhaustion of the Ghawar super giant oil field will happen a lot sooner I'm afraid. Saudis are in denial on this one.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:20 | Link to Comment Jumbotron
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Exhaustion of the Ghawar super giant oil field will happen a lot sooner I'm afraid. Saudis are in denial on this one.

Already there.....the water cut is getting intense.

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/9263

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:03 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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But it's talking smack to a country one earthquake away from a complete financial meltdown. The Fed has done an astoundingly good job of propping things up and keeping the house of cards standing but it's become very brittle. If the Big One hits California or the New Madrid lets loose I doubt the system rebound from the shock anymore.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:03 | Link to Comment Freddie
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I would love for Putin and Russia to take out the Saudis or their oil fields.  Evil scum.    Putin is a no saint but he makes Obama and the House of Saud look like the evil vermin they are.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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I don't know about that, but imagine what will happen when the US finally implodes and takes the world economy down with it. When the price of oil plunges it will be game over for the Saudis.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:36 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Watch the US let oil drop to $75. Then Saudi will be busy with their own "arab spring".

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:25 | Link to Comment venturen
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$75....Oil should be at $35! Oil is levitiated to punish Americans for letting Wall Street destroy the US. Remember the oil trader making billion dollar bonus at Citi...where do you think that money comes from?  We are marching to the cliff....with Obama as the drum major! Yellen and Bernanke are just clueless cheerleaders that as with OBama couldn't run a lemonade stand!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:42 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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Greenspam wants his due too

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:32 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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I would be more concerned that the Saudi's decide to take the price of gold to $3k (which will drag up oil with it and accelerate the transition away from USD) - it's difficult to understand how the professionals in Foggy Bottom could screw the Yamani deal so badly, but I guess they prefer giving Clinton and Kerry rimjobs as opposed to doing their own jobs.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:56 | Link to Comment BlackVoid
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Haha, good luck with that.

US producers would croak muxh sooner than the Saudis who produce at the cost of $10 / barrel.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:08 | Link to Comment Freddie
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True and not true.  The Saudis need probably $90 a barrel to make all their social welfare/EBT card BS.   They have a pretty big "middle class" that lives totally on oil handouts.

Large energy supplies in a country become a curse as they become welfare states.  Norway has done it better than most.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:19 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Funny yes, but have you thought this through?

At $75, we'd be using even less USDs in circulation. Thus creating an even bigger problem.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:39 | Link to Comment Jason T
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i burn wood bitchez.. F saudi oil.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:40 | Link to Comment Smegley Wanxalot
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"I got the oil, you got the drones,

Let's make lotsa moneyyyy..."

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:43 | Link to Comment The Proletariat
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Piss on the liver eating Saudi bastards.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:43 | Link to Comment TheBoyPlunger
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In other words: WTI crude will be back to $115 next summer due to more false flag attacks and "concerns over supply disruption" which never materialize.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:46 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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And Netanyahu is furious with the US for not bombing Iran.  Come on Nobel-Prize winner, bomb someone to please your allies.  BTW, finally today Amnesty International declared the use of drones a war crime.  But that will not deter our dear leader.

Moar war.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:25 | Link to Comment Element
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No way in the world military forces are going to pay any attention whatsoever to Amnesty on this one (it's almost are silly, pointless and ignorant as a carbon-based lifeform declaring carbon an environmental 'pollutant').

The use of drones is enormous, and absolutely critical to almost every aspect of modern defense forces today, not just in air forces, but just as much for naval forces, and army as well. All of these branches launch and retrieve an extremely diverse range of drones and there is zero chance militaries are going to stop using them, any more than they would stop using satellites.

Forget it, not going to happen.

What needs limiting are the outrageous international attacks on people, outside of war, to simply arbitrarily and summarily assassinate people, even in crowds of other people. The other obvious valid point for a global ban, is the use of govt drones for spying on nationals.

Plus the drone problem is isolated to a few countries, not to drones per-sec, and those countries are often a general problem with warfare, so I would submit that herein lies the real nature of the problem, the asshole-country govt-militaries that are doing it.

Solve that and you'll have most of the problem beat.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:10 | Link to Comment Freddie
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F drones and SkyNet.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:22 | Link to Comment Its_the_economy...
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The Saudis have figured out that is easier to destabilize the middle-east (world) than it is to increase fossi fuel demand.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:23 | Link to Comment Its_the_economy...
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i could be wrong about that.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:49 | Link to Comment I need Another Beer
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What happened to always blaming the Jews? It's always the Jews fault. I guess Saudis are a Jewich nation ,right?

Screw all U anti-semites

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:54 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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FU and fuck Israel too......

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Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:02 | Link to Comment Wen_Dat
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Jeez, those Jews are so racist. You know we have a policy about that.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:08 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Clearly just out cruising for trouble....cause I didn't see anyone bring up the subject in the first place.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:12 | Link to Comment Wen_Dat
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Or fishin for francis

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:23 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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I miss francis_sawyer......

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Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:28 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Lassie.....go find francis!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:20 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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Did he finally get the boot...?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:16 | Link to Comment WTFUD
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Just like the amerikans the jews are being bled by a few war mongering leaders. So stop bleating and throwing out smokescreens you clown; we know your game and we're not fooled by it arsehole.

Prince Bandar Bin Insulting.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:17 | Link to Comment superflex
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Jewich?

Is that a Jew liver sandwich?

Troololololol

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:45 | Link to Comment squexx
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Fuck you, heeb. You need to take a shower, you filthy Jew!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:23 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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Are you familiar with psychoanalysis...?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:15 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
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BTW, Anti- Semites would hate Arabs as much as Jews,...

Just sayin' Mr. Beer drinker

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:55 | Link to Comment Random
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And be more inclined to hate arabs vs. jews as a fuckton of jews are of the funny, caucasian, red-heded-blue-eyed-pale-face type aka non semitic.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:13 | Link to Comment Freddie
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The Saudis and Israel are allies.   More than a few question who the House of Saud are.  Some people believe then are Iraqi you know whats back by Mi6 which is run by the Red Shield.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 15:25 | Link to Comment MisterMousePotato
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"Some people believe then are Iraqi you know whats back by Mi6 which is run by the Red Shield."

Freddie. Just between us? You gotta lay off the sauce, Man.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:54 | Link to Comment Setarcos
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GO Putin.

I know that nothing is as it seems in the realms of politics and financialism/banksterism, but it is possible that Putin will go down in history as the man who stopped WW3 from happening.

Of course the Zionist wild card remains in both Washington DC and it's "Wild East" frontier fort of USS Israel (the unsinkable aircraft carrier at the pointy end of PNAC TOTAL global dominance).

GO Putin.

 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:10 | Link to Comment Terminus C
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Really?

Putin is no different than any of these other sociopathic murderers.  They are all looking out for themselves.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:30 | Link to Comment Wen_Dat
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Sure is. The trick is to make us think there's a difference (blue/red) all .gov is shit.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:33 | Link to Comment CH1
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Putin is no different than any of these other sociopathic murderers.

Quite true, but it's hard to complain when the sociopathic murderers fight each other.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:17 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Go have a free bagel at the Bank America or Wells Fargo lobby.  They have free coffee too.   Maybe you can steal some rolls of toilet paper and get free pens from the tellers.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 17:36 | Link to Comment Bazza McKenzie
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Putin may be a sociopathic murderer like Obama, but he actually has some guts, is not incompetent, and is prepared to stand up for his country's national interests.

There are important differences between these sociopathic murderers, and unfortunately the US plumbed the bottom of the barrel.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:00 | Link to Comment TheFreeLance
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In a perfect world, the US presence in Qatar would incent the French-trained special forces to take out the Al Thani house and put the military in charge. The House of Saud would collectively pee itself.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:04 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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Wow. They really ARE running out of oil. Too bad, so sad.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:09 | Link to Comment Zero Point
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Correct answer buzzsaw

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 20:59 | Link to Comment Element
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The OPEC capacity to remain relevant was directly proportional to their ability to supply oil in high volume at a cheap price.

As that is not occurring any more for the best part of a decade, other prior non-producers can now develop and produce their own oil and gas, and as a byproduct, pull the rug out from under the Saudi economy and clout.

So if the Saudis want their 'mojo' back, the obvious answer is to produce a lot more oil, to drive price down, and thus push the new producer competition out of the market again.

If they don't have the volume to do that, then yeah, that would be a clear indication that they're running out.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:05 | Link to Comment esum
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the house of saud better keep their 747's fully stock with pussy and booze for the short trip to switzerland with king obumbler at the helm.. he doesn't care if iran gets a nuke and right now he is fully focused on baskeball and next vacation to make up for the cancellation of the indonesian boyhood home visitation. the ambivalent, self annointed messiah has shown he is a bumbling stumbling goofy vindictive child.... with a diaper full of shit... that the press tells us smells like roses..everything this asshole touches turns to shit.. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:36 | Link to Comment Running On Bing...
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Who yesterday stunned the world with his new website healthcare.gov(beta) and his promise that v1.1 will bring with it exciting new features like the bluetooth ZORA chip. Planting it under you skin and uploading every 10 days will bring you a 10% savings on your healthcare bundle.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 15:27 | Link to Comment MisterMousePotato
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Wait a second. I gotta get 35 floppy disks embedded in my skin? That's gonna hurt. And, it's gonna look funny.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:40 | Link to Comment the tower
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Iran needs nukes to balance power in the Middle East. Only Iran can stop the Israeli/Saudi hegemony.

Iran has never attacked anyone, and has a highly educated and civilized population (I wrote population, not their leaders). They are not power hungry religious freaks like the Israelis and Saudis.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:57 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Highly educated and civilized urban minority.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:01 | Link to Comment the tower
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Better than any other Middle Eastern country. Also, they have well established communities the world over, never causing any problems: LA, Canada, Australia.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Element
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The terrible sin Iran made (other than the embassy hostages thing) was they dared to take the side of the Palestinians against Israel, when everyone abandoned them and just gave in to a grave injustice. If the Arabs, the Saudis in particular, had worked with Iran to prevent this injustice, we would not see this today, plus millions still with no status or right to return to their land:

http://www.a-w-i-p.com/media/blogs/news/Newsdirectory2/PAL_palestinian-l...

And Iranians aren't even Arabs, while the Arabs basically abandoned the Palestinians to dissolution as a people of the Levant. The Iranians aren't perfect by any means, but they are consistent and have considerable integrity on some very important issues (and after WWII the Russian people also should understand the basic need to resist a militarist power invading, occupying, colonising and stealing another people's land, to eliminate them).

The Saudis? Not so much, and that'll be catching up with them in a very regrettable way.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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1) The Iran "never attacked anyone" line is BS. Even ignoring their use of proxies, they have directly invaded and attacked neighbors in the last few decades.

2) Although Iran sometimes uses proxies to achieve its desired ends, Iran is also a proxy for others who seek to do certain things.

If the Saudis are using the Chechens as proxies against the Russians (As opposed to when the USSA used the Saudis as proxies against the USSR), there is a reasonable chance that the Russians will use the Iranians as proxies against Saudis. Of course, the Iranians would probably outsource the proxy heavy lifting to their own proxies, but since blowback is a bitch, and the Saudi's aren't retards, the Saudis would be more likely to strike back against Iran than to confront the Russians directly, which leaves the Iranian people in the middle of a shit-sammich made by their own Dear Leaders, although, in fairness, the Iranian leadership's options are limited and the whole move and counter-move of geopolitics was "algo'd" so long ago and we could largely do away with the TV meat-puppets and nothing would change.

The simple truth is that most peoples are innocent, most governments are guilty, and everyone's shit stinks.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Element
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Completely agree with your two opening points. I've made them myself about three months back, and even got called a troll for doing it.

Must not bark at the sheep while they are dreaming.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:07 | Link to Comment pupdog1
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These goat-herding child molesters... so jejune.

Nothing a shot of bourbon, a ham sandwich, and the bottom of a shoe wouldn't cure.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:08 | Link to Comment Keyser
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"In Washington in recent days, Saudi officials have privately complained to U.S. lawmakers that they increasingly feel cut out of U.S. decision-making on Syria and Iran. A senior American official described the king as "angry.""

Fuck you one more time you Saudi cunts. Do your own dirty work. Now that many in the US are awakening, this sort of bullshit is going to stop. Much like the AIPAC influence in the US. The only thing worse than a dirty Arab is a dirty Israeli. 

 

 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:10 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Trouble in the family?  Unrest back home with the peasants?  Westerners not dancin' when you yank their chain?  What's a poor Saud to do?!

 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:20 | Link to Comment Widowmaker
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Good, the US welcomes the Saudi Spring.

Fraud Sauds are the only that complain with $100Million increase per day in personal family fortune.  Its probably a lot more now.

How long can you buy Saudi citizens off because the US is sick of buying desert royalty off. Eat shit, Bandar Bush, enjoy revolt.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:12 | Link to Comment FubarNation
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We haven't had a Big Lebowski ref for a while.  Bonus points due here gents. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:12 | Link to Comment Gringo Viejo
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My sandals is hot, my burnoose is smokin',
I want a war and I ain't jokin'. ....Prince BLT

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:13 | Link to Comment pupdog1
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"WWIII in the Middle East would triple or quadruple them oil prices in a big friggin' hurry," said Prince Bandar Sultan Ali-BooBoo as he licked his greasy chops.

"Whaddya mean our US Congressbitches said "no" after hearing from the American people 100-to-1 ???"

"WTF ??"

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:13 | Link to Comment Took Red Pill
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This will be another nail in the U.S. dollar coffin

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:18 | Link to Comment paint it red ca...
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Correction, the Federal Reserve Note coffin we are all in.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:13 | Link to Comment paint it red ca...
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It's all about the israeli/saudi/usInc. cabal dismemberment. If the USofA expects to recover itself, USofA has to shed the attached parasites bleeding us friggin dry. Step one is apparently leaving bandar with his pecker in his hand wondering what to do with outgunned hired killers under his employ. You can bet they aren't enjoying Russian munitions in Assads hands.

http://www.syriantube.net/

I suspect his mercenaries are less happy with him than he is about being left swinging in Putin's wind. Good, maybe in their murderous frustration they will turn on their saudi handlers and bandar himself.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:16 | Link to Comment Harry Dong
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Standing on a beach with a gun in my hand. Staring at the sea, staring at the sand-

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:39 | Link to Comment R.U. Nuts
Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:45 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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+1000
for total old school

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:50 | Link to Comment Freddie
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I hope Putin and Asssad smash and destroy the Saudis/McCian/Obama's/State Dept's killers.  The Saudis are evil evil scum.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:14 | Link to Comment BadDog
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Singapore inititates direct currency link with China.  London, Hong Kong and now Singapore.  Wonder who might be next?  hmmmm

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-22/singapore-announces-direct-curr...

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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At this point- WHO HASN'T (YET)?

If my memory is correct Christmas Day 2008, they announced 12 SEPARATE bilateral currency agreements (none of which was thrown together on Christmas Eve), we're now 5 YEARS into this process. The drip, drip, drip, isn't accidental, it's methodical, and similar to Chinese Water Torture when one is surrounded by Sheepleconomists.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:17 | Link to Comment shovelhead
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What do you do when Murder Inc. doesn't return your phone calls?

DIY, baby.

Bandar's dealings with Putin shows that subtlety is not a Saudi priority. This could be a... um, grave error?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:18 | Link to Comment yrbmegr
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Subtlety is all they do in Saudi Arabia.  What is not a priority in Saudi Arabia is courage.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:17 | Link to Comment squexx
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I lived in Saudi Arabia for 2 years. Put decent money in the bank and coudn't stand any more of it. It is a completely fucked up, backward country.Completely corrupt from top to bottom and still in the 12th century. If they didn't have lots of money to throw at problems, they wouldn't last a year. The amount of money wasted and stolen there is incredible. Especially by the decadent, corrupt Royal Family

I hope they do push Russia, Saudi deserves to be destroyed.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:21 | Link to Comment venturen
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Obama will bow and do as he is told. Maybe we could get a picture of OBama kneeing to his superiors? WHAT A FAILURE THE GUY IS!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:23 | Link to Comment Running On Bing...
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Yea, move Snowden into the Saudi IT bunkers for a few months, then back to Russia and well see how well the Prince follows Putins instructables....

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:26 | Link to Comment ZippyDooDah
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I'm feelin' like ordering a drone attack on SA.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:28 | Link to Comment Disenchanted
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Bandar Bush, 'liberator' of Syria
By Pepe Escobar

 

So what is Bandar the Liberator to do? Well, he can always direct his private jet to Dallas and liberate his sorrows in a sea of single malt, provided by the House of Dubya.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Element
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Didn't bush the shrub bug-out to South Amerhika yet?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:32 | Link to Comment the tower
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Guess another 9/11 is coming up. Last time they were pissed off at the US too...

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:35 | Link to Comment rustymason
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What are they gonna do? Bomb the Freedom (sic) Tower?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:39 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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LOL.

Anyone who believes that the Saudis are puppetmasters of...anything, is, well, lacking in knowledge wisdom or common fucking sense.

Show me the last time those morons assassinated anything other than a bottle of scotch or a pocketful of Khat.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:57 | Link to Comment the tower
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Ermmm, khat? You must be confused with Jemen. The saudis are the ones that blew up the twin towers, remember?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:12 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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Oh, yes. The same way that the Dagestanis blew up the Boston marathon.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:09 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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When you make statements like that, please don't forget to end it with /sarc.  If you are for real, then it is time for a brain transplant, available through Obamacare.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:45 | Link to Comment f16hoser
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Let's Bomb the Fuck out of the Saudi Royal Family! Now that's a War I think we All can rally around!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 08:49 | Link to Comment the tower
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How come the USA does business with a country that allows 10 year old girls to be married to old fat perverts???

Istn't there at least ONE action group in the USA that wants to put this on Fox news???

Any Christian in the USA must realize that every time they fill up their tank they are supporting child rape.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:54 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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Actually every time they open their wallet to use a dollar, too...

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:03 | Link to Comment eddiebe
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Instead of going after Iran or/and Syria, the US should just take the whole Arab peninsula and be done with it.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Element
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USA couldn't take an over-sized rice paddy ... HOLD it, and make it stick.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:04 | Link to Comment MrBoompi
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When your military is only capable of launching terrorist attacks, you have to pay others to do the real dirty work for you. Fuck you Saudi Arabia.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:07 | Link to Comment LMLP
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Time for Jeb Bush then?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:29 | Link to Comment Uchtdorf
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I upped you for <sarc>

That is sarcasm, right? If not, then please get a clue.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 11:27 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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Jeb just guaranteed himself a big time contribution.....

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 15:10 | Link to Comment SandiaMan
Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:12 | Link to Comment yrbmegr
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The feeling is mutual.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:18 | Link to Comment tony wilson
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bandar prince among apes.

bender blow job bandar bush fluffer and general cock wrangler.

bandar a house of saud jew a mossad man a zioonist bagman tool.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:18 | Link to Comment HamRove
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Well, there is a simple solution to this. Strap Bandar, dumbfuck with a kevlar vest and send him into Syria to fight.

Sorry saudi, you're just going to have to raise an army of YOUR CHILDREN to fight this...

A$$hole.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:22 | Link to Comment jmcadg
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And we're lead to believe the unstable country in the region is Iran? Lol

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:30 | Link to Comment TrulyStupid
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Obama should get some credit for telling this POS to pound sand... The Bush gang would be blowing Bandar by now.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 12:40 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Obama shivs everyone in the back at some point including his own people. The Bushes and Saudis are just figuring this out now...... You can't do long term business with people like this. It is not a question of if the knife is going to be inserted in the back with a guy like this.

The Bushes and Saudis miscalculated on this one thinking playing ball with the Muslim Brotherhood grooming and put their Manchurian Candidate who would pass the sniff test with the US public in the WH. They miscalculated thinking a 'reform' movement would unify enough the Muslims to be the cannon fodder to push their agendas in the MENA region without degenerating back into tribalism. You have thousands of years of regional history that says otherwise.

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