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This Lack Of Syrian Aggression Will Not Stand, Man: Saudi's Bandar Bin Sultan Furious At US
That Saudi Arabia has been furious at the US for refusing to be the monarchy's puppet Globocop, and in the last minute declining to bomb Syria following Putin's gambit in which World War III seemed a distinctly possible consequence of John Kerry's hamheaded "YouTube-substantiated" false flag campaign, is no secret. However, while the US has largely forgotten this latest foreign policy debacle and the humiliation it brought upon the Department of State, Saudi Arabia is nowhere close to forgetting. Or forgiving. And this time the anger comes from the one man who truly matters, and whom we dubbed several months ago as the puppetmaster behind the Syrian campaign: the man in charge of Saudi intelligence, Prince Bandar Bin Sultan.
The WSJ reports overnight, that Prince Bandar told European diplomats this weekend that he plans to scale back cooperating with the U.S. to arm and train Syrian rebels in protest of Washington's policy in the region, participants in the meeting said. This demonstratively framed announcement follows Saudi Arabia's surprise decision on Friday to renounce a seat on the United Nations Security Council. "The Saudi government, after preparing and campaigning for the seat for a year, cited what it said was the council's ineffectiveness in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian and Syrian conflicts."
In short: Bin Sultan has decided to take the stage and make it quite clear that this lack of aggression by the US will not stand. The question is: what can or will he do?
Diplomats here said Prince Bandar, who is leading the kingdom's efforts to fund, train and arm rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, invited a Western diplomat to the Saudi Red Sea city of Jeddah over the weekend to voice Riyadh's frustration with the Obama administration and its regional policies, including the decision not to bomb Syria in response to its alleged use of chemical weapons in August.
"This was a message for the U.S., not the U.N.," Prince Bandar was quoted by diplomats as specifying of Saudi Arabia's decision to walk away from the Security Council membership.
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U.S. officials said they interpreted Prince Bandar's message to the Western diplomat as an expression of discontent designed to push the U.S. in a different direction. "Obviously he wants us to do more," said a senior U.S. official.
Obviously. What is odd is that the "proxy" intelligence chief appears to have usurped foreign policy decision-making from the Saudi king himself.
Top decisions in Saudi Arabia come from the king, Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al Saud, and it isn't known if Prince Bandar's reported remarks reflected a decision by the monarch, or an effort by Prince Bandar to influence the king. However, the diplomats said, Prince Bandar told them he intends to roll back a partnership with the U.S. in which the Central Intelligence Agency and other nations' security bodies have covertly helped train Syrian rebels to fight Mr. Assad, Prince Bandar said, according to the diplomats. Saudi Arabia would work with other allies instead in that effort, including Jordan and France, the prince was quoted as saying.
If there was any confusion that the entire Syrian campaign was purely at the behest of the Qataris and the Saudis as we first suggested in May, it can finally be put to bed.
The monarchy was particularly angered by Mr. Obama's decision to scrap plans to bomb Syria in response to the alleged chemical-weapons attack in August and, more recently, tentative overtures between Mr. Obama and Iran's new president.
Diplomats and officials familiar with events recounted two previously undisclosed episodes during the buildup to the aborted Western strike on Syria that allegedly further unsettled the Saudi-U.S. relationship.
In the run-up to the expected U.S. strikes, Saudi leaders asked for detailed U.S. plans for posting Navy ships to guard the Saudi oil center, the Eastern Province, during any strike on Syria, an official familiar with that discussion said. The Saudis were surprised when the Americans told them U.S. ships wouldn't be able to fully protect the oil region, the official said.
Disappointed, the Saudis told the U.S. that they were open to alternatives to their long-standing defense partnership, emphasizing that they would look for good weapons at good prices, whatever the source, the official said.
In the second episode, one Western diplomat described Saudi Arabia as eager to be a military partner in what was to have been the U.S.-led military strikes on Syria. As part of that, the Saudis asked to be given the list of military targets for the proposed strikes. The Saudis indicated they never got the information, the diplomat said.
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"The Saudis are very upset. They don't know where the Americans want to go," said a senior European diplomat not in Riyadh.
To be sure, not just Prccne Bandar is angry - everyone else in Saudi is now fuming at Obama too:
In Washington in recent days, Saudi officials have privately complained to U.S. lawmakers that they increasingly feel cut out of U.S. decision-making on Syria and Iran. A senior American official described the king as "angry."
Another senior U.S. official added: "Our interests increasingly don't align."
Fair enough: but what can it do? It is no secret, that as the primary hub of the petrodollar system which is instrumental to keeping the dollar's reserve status, Saudi has no choice but to cooperate with the US, or else risk even further deterioration of the USD reserve status. A development which would certainly please China... and Russia, both of which are actively engaging in Plan B preparations for the day when the USD is merely the latest dethroned reserve currency on the scrap heap of all such formerly world-dominant currencies.
Perhaps the only party that Saudi can lash out at, since it certainly fears escalating its animosity with the US even more, is Russia. And perhaps it did yesterday, when as we reported, a suicide-bombing terrorist incident captured on a dashcam killed many people, and was supposedly organized by an Islamist extremist - of the kind that Bandar told Putin several months ago are controlled and funded by Saudi intelligence chief.
If true, and if Saudi wants to project its impotence vis-a-vis the US by attacking Russia, this will likely culminate with the Sochi winter Olympics. So will Prince Bandar be crazy enough to take on none other than the former KGB chief? And more importantly, just like in the US Syrian fiasco, what happens when and if Putin retaliates against the true power that holds the USD in place?
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Not much of a Manchurian candidate if he doesn't perform as programmed....but regardless which ways he goes... he's incompetent?
. . . and a coward. Putin stood up . . . Obama stood down.
There's a big difference between the bully running away (Obama) when someone (Putin) threatens to thump him back, and said bully allegedly telling the fellow bullies he left behind to "pound sand".
Unless you're giving credit for lies by the bushel, Obama deserves no credit.
Drill for oil in Sudan, Ethiopia and Eritrea. All three have more oil than Saudi. Problem fixed.
I don't see why the Saudi's don't just fly a couple of planes into Milad Tower in Tehran.
Next time Obama will have to prostate himself before the Saudi King instead of bowing. That's the Saudi problem, the lack of honest commitment by its subjects.
Prostate?
Now that's some funny shit there!
pepe just wrote an excellent article on the subject:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-02-221013.html
Indeed...
"A senior American official described the king as "angry.""...
Yes. Angry that he and his fellow tent dwellers of less than 100 years ago aren't getting their own way.
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Angry that the Prince Bandar has been dead for over a year.
"If there was any confusion that the entire Syrian campaign was purely at the behest of the Qataris and the Saudis as we first suggested in May, it can finally be put to bed."
Undoubtedly, the Saudis and the Qataris are (or were) involved in the Syrian 'campaign' but there should be little doubt of great encouragement by US foreign policy establishment. However, it could be the 'establishment' has changed its collective mind, leaving the Saudis (and Qataris) in the lurch. The (American) people were overwhelmingly opposed to the invasion and the Muslim Brotherhood Egyptian leader's calls for Jihad against Assad probably helped them change their minds. (Please) let that be a lesson to the Saudis - don't start wars for US again.
If Russia really wants to hurt the Saudis, all they would need do is to sabotage their Luberef refinery. Either through cyber attack, or outright sabotage {the good old fashion way}. Not only would this hurt the House of Saud, but it would send crude prices skyrocketing, pouring in monies from Russian oil sales into Putin's pocket. Face it, oil is all those Wahhabi sand niggers have, and if it were to be disrupted in a serious way {and an attack on Luberef certainly would}, their position could be potentially compromised by opposition groups.
I'd like to trade Obama for Putin
Trading one totalitarian for another is not the answer.
Bandar Bush
http://www.detroityes.com/mb/attachment.php?attachmentid=18967&d=1366646391
maybe he'll send more of his Chechen terrorists to another american city
Just who was behind the 'Sarin Gas' attacks?
On July 22, 2013 'Iraq's Abu Gharib' prison break rumored (factual data now!) to be perpetrated by the 'Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham of the Levant (ISIS)', sets free 500-1,000 al Qadea: "Saudi black-op team behind Damascus chemical weapons attack-diplomatic sources" 10/4/13 http://rt.com/news/syria-sarin-saudi-provocation-736/ "Over 500 Al-Qaeda militants escape Iraq's Abu Gharib in violent break-out" http://rt.com/news/iraq-abu-prison-escape-430/
Note: ~ 30 days later... Syrian, 'Sarin Attack'!
Note 2: 'Bandar's 'Army of Islam (AofI)* {(Salafist)(Al-Nusra)}' v. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (Bin Laden's 1st Lieutenant) via al-Badhadi's ISIS (Iraqi Sunni/al Qadea). The vast geography of attack is a cross-section of Sryia's northern borders with Turkey's 565 mile border with syria and Lebanon which Bandar's 'A of I' & Al-Nusra Front'... radical Islam, and all battle-hardened jihadist! "ISIS Maps Emirate Borders In Syria" Oct/2013 http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/security/2013/10/syria-opposition-isis-border-emirate.html Ps. Al-Monitor was set-up by and financed (wholly?) by Saudi Arabian money, and, as not to show any bias... Al Jazeera is owned entirely by the Gov't. of Qatar! Lastly, not to forget the U.S. based 'Washington Times' which is a 100% AIPAC rag sponsered by PRO`Israelite's!
Now, onto the important stuff: "Iraq Faces Major Challenges in Destroying its Legacy Chemical Weapons" 3/4/10 by Jonathan B. Tucker http://cns.miis.edu/stories/100304_iraq_cw_legacy.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction and this to add some flavor, 'Iraq and Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC)' joined 2/12/09 Ps2. pre-1991 era: war between Iran and Iraq (1980-88) and the Iraqi kurd's (uprising/ not a war?) to the north in Mar/88 that ended because of Iraq's Chemical Weapons used! The U.S. and Britain supplied the nerve agents and precursor chemicals. Ref: '(OPCW) Organization of the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons'!?! "CWC" & IAEA (Int'l. Atomic Energy Agency)
Ref: 'Bunker 13 at Muthanna Complex and 1st Gulf War (2/8/91) ~ 20km south of the city of Samarra in Iraq? According to Iraqi intelligence Saddam stored 2,500 Sarin-filled 122mm artillary rockets on the site documented by (UNSCOM) United Nations Security Commission dated 6/92-6/94. (IAEA) Ref2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_687 Quote: "Although the damaged Bunker 13 at Muthanna contained thousands of sarin-filled rockets, the presence of leaking munitions and unstable propellant and explosive charges made it hazardous for UNSCOM inspectors to enter. Because the rockets could not be recovered safely, Iraq declared the munnitions in Bunker 13 as 'Destroyed in the Gulf War', and they were not included in the inventory of chemical weapons eliminated under UNSCOM supervision. (UN Special Commission of Iraq")" end quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_chemical_weapon (*precursor chemical weapon agents) Of special interest is the correlation Of 'Improvised Explosive Devises (IED's)' and Binary Weapons-- the most fasinating discovery of late (perhaps as far back as USSR/ Afghanistan War? & a certain nascent mujahideen?!?) has been a 152mm binary Sarin artillery projectile containing a ~40% concentration of Sarin-- which insurgents attempted to use as an IED Sept/04?!?
Note3: The U.S and Britains' 6-Year occupation of Iraq in the 'Great War' (Mission Accomplished?) officially ended in June/2009 and pulled-out all US/ UK Combat and Personel at the end of 2011! Ref: "Muthanna State Establishment Samarra-[33'50`N 43'46`E]" http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/facility/muthanna.htm *(al- Muthanna as referred by Iraqi's) Ref: 'Bunker 13-- IAEA seals broken by Bush $43 Invasion' (IAEA & UNMOVIC & CWC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Gharib http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Weapons_Convention *(?Israel and Egypt?) Ps2. VX-- a nerve agent is 10X more lethal and powerful than Sarin in which Saddam was said to possess besides a litany of sulfur mustard, and tabun just to name a few! The question is... where did it come from?
Lastly (Summary): The Salafist (A of I) Group (Saudis' Bandar`Bush, is led byJabhat al-Nusra-- as Pepe Escobar calls the Prince Saud Bandar`ino, ( http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Others/Escobar.html ) and the al-Qadea linked ISIS are now fighting against the Syrian Kurd's (Salem Muslim co-chair of the Kurdish Dem. Union Party (PYD)... has become a proxy war of Erdogan's 'Muslim' Turkey against Syrian Kurds. Ref: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/10/syria-kurdish-leader-calls-turkey-shut-down-salafists.html Quote: "Turkey wants to weaken the Syrian Kurds {(PYD)(Established in 2003 by PKK)} more so than the Kurdish people themselves. After all, the PYD was set-up the Kurdistan Worker's Party (PKK) in which Turkey has been trying to eradicate for 29 Years!" " In other words, after Iraq's Kurdistan, a second autonomonous Kurdish region is emerging on Turkey's Southern Border ~900km/ 565 miles. "Syrian Kurdish Leader Urges Turkey to End support for Salafists" by Amberin Zaman 10/9/13___ end quote!
Note4: Shiite (Alawite) are enemies to Islamic Fundamentalist (Sunni / Sharia Law), al-Qaeda Jihadism,Salafist, and on and on it goes!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahiri *Riyadh (Saudi's finance Turkey's enormous current account. ** Russia provides the bulk of Turkey's energy (Gas & Oil). *** The Muslim Brotherhood (Egypt) have a kinship with Erdogan's Turkey that will never be broken. **** Turkey is NATO's 2nd largest arm force alliance.
Finally (afterthoughts), "Israel bombs 'Dair Alzour', Syria Sept/07 (North Korean Vintage 'Nuke'? ,... and the U.S. knows all, but holds its card's close to it's vest-- using only when opportunity strikes! They know at minimum 10 years in advance of any NPT violations or red-herrings to send the IAEA off on wild-goose chases, Period!
thankyou, Tyler
I guess the Saudis wasted all that money helping Soros buy Obama the Presidency, didn't they?
What a bunch of maroons...relying on a total azzklown like Obama to do anything but eff up the whole game. Glad Obama is so damned incompetent....he might be REALLY dangerous were it otherwise.