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TEPCO Admits To Finding Radioactive Cesium 1Km Off Coast Of Fukushima

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The dismal news keeps coming for the Fukushima nuclear power facility. According to NHK World, TEPCO is admitting to detecting radioactive cesium about one kilometer off shore. While the level is low, it is the secoond time radioactive substances have been found that far offshore and it is believed to be from wastewater leaking out with the groundwater. The company, reassuringly, says the leak poses no environmental risk... As if that was not enough, Bloomberg reports TEPCO also found high levels of radiation in the drainage ditches and wells at the site. Of course, this will likely be met with cries of delight by Abe who will "need to build a bigger wall" to contain the leaks and thus create a Keynesian utopia from the 'broken nuclear plant fallacy' that is ongoing.


Via NHK World,

Tokyo Electric Power Company says a very small amount of radioactive cesium has been detected about one kilometer off the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant it operates.


TEPCO has been analyzing seawater taken at 5 locations outside the plant's harbor. This is to monitor the spread of radioactive substances in wastewater that's believed to be seeping out with groundwater.


A sample taken last Friday about one kilometer offshore was found to contain 1.6 becquerels of cesium-137 per liter.


The level is far below the 90 becquerels-per-liter limit for releasing cesium-137 into the sea. But it is the second time the substance has been detected at this location since monitoring began in August. The previous finding was on October 8th.


TEPCO says it does not know why cesium has been found at that specific spot. But the company says it poses no environmental risk as the level is near the minimum detection threshold. It adds that hardly any cesium is being found elsewhere in the sea outside of the port.


Via Bloomberg,

Co. found 59,000 Bq/L of beta radiation levels from water taken yesterday at B-2 drainage ditch at Fukushima Dai-Ichi plant, higher than previous record of 34,000 Bq/L in Oct. 17 sample, according to an e-mailed statement from the utility.


Co. detects 350,000 Bq/L of tritium radiation at monitoring well “No. 1-12” near turbine buildings, according to a separate statement


First time to take sample from monitoring well “No.  1-12”


Co. found record 790,000 Bq/L of tritium radiation    near H4 storage tank area on Oct. 17



We just can't wait to see the Olympic sailing events with boats whose hulls are lead-shielded...


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Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:05 | 4081558 TeMpTeK
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Sushi anyone?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:23 | 4081604 IridiumRebel
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I ask the waiter where the fish comes from when ordering...they always pause and in that moment I slyly look at them and whisper..."Fukushima." They then have a look of, "what the Hell does this guy know that I don't?"

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:36 | 4081630 markmotive
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30 years after Chernobyl and people are still finding crazy shit!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:56 | 4081678 LeisureSmith
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If for some reason you would want to bang that crazy chick in the vid, casually mention that your jizz is radioactive and that the reason she can't detect any particles shooting out of your balls with her Gamma-Scout is because you wear lead shielded boxers for public safety.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 05:15 | 4082044 New World Chaos
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That crazy chick is the craziest thing in that basement.  What is it with Russians and their "life is cheap" mentality? I'm bored; think I'll spend a few minutes sifting through a room full of radioactive firefighting clothes, then I'll go check on the giant claw they used to fish out chunks of the reactor core.  Yup, still blazing hot as ever...

BTW, this bit of cesium they found off the coast of Fukushima is fuck-all unless they fudged it.  One liter is equivalent to one bite of a banana (an isotope of potassium is slightly radioactive).  There are much better reasons to worry about Fukushima.  This detracts from the seriousness of it.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 06:41 | 4082113 LeisureSmith
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The gal is German i believe and is a connoisseur/collector of radioactive substances it seems. Looks to know her shit, but when it comes to the hot stuff she is coo coo for cocoa puffs.....

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 06:55 | 4082124 Ying-Yang
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Releasing radioactive water into the ocean....

Where is the liberal fucking outrage?

Is radioactive water a cause of global warming?

Where is Green Peace?

Where is the UN?

WTF? Goes to show you who the pussies are.

Something bad is happening and the so called environmentals are sitting on their thumbs.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:01 | 4082312 MontgomeryScott
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We just can't wait to see the Olympic sailing events with boats whose hulls are lead-shielded...

'This ship can't sink!'

'She's made of lead. i assure you she can...'

WHO IS IT that authorizes these people to put 'safe limits' on radioactive exposures that seem to go up every month, assuring 'us' that there is 'NO, REASONABLE CAUSE FOR ALARM'?

I want to watch the clip again where Obama and company eat the seafood supposedly caught in the Gulf of Mexico.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:13 | 4082348 vxpatel
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that was so fake! and he went swimming in a closed bay with his daughter, while pretending it was the gulf! what a capitalist (s)tool!

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:02 | 4082319 vxpatel
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We should send cruz supporters over therre to build a human wall.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:45 | 4081651 RafterManFMJ
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Thanks a lot I Rebel you just got me thrown out of McDonalds.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:18 | 4081735 IridiumRebel
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Try the McOarfish Sandwich with Wasabi Mayo!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:30 | 4081614 ZerOhead
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"We just can't wait to see the Olympic sailing events with boats whose hulls are lead-shielded..."


Actually when you think about it you are likely to see more Olympic records set with higher levels of radiation and no shielding...

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 03:57 | 4082011 CHX
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Fuk-u-sushi-ma ?

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:15 | 4081562 krispkritter
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The gift that keeps on giving...FU TEPCO.  This is like some bizarre re-gifting reality show.  Emtomb or bury it, now. Include TEPCO management and the political asswipes in charge in the burial. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:22 | 4081600 logicalman
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Bury it?

Oh, so putting a lid on a leaky container will help anything.

This shit is in the ground water and is coming back to the surface.

If enough of that wonderful mix of oxides gets together in the wrong way criticallity could occur, leading to some very dirty results.

It's a total fucking mess

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:51 | 4081786 hungrydweller
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Illogical bullshit.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:00 | 4081687 El Tuco
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Yeah there was an accident and it happened, but the least they could do is deal with it instead of fucking jerking off all day.

Do they understand wtf is going down in their backyard? Fucking Japanese, what an apathetic bunch....


Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:23 | 4081744 mjcOH1
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The protruding nail is hammered down.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:28 | 4082998 Jim in MN
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The loudest duck gets shot.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:07 | 4081563 European American
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1 Km of Fukushima or Fukifornia?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:42 | 4081863 Tim_
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Japan ready to supply enriched uranium to Iran - paper (2010)

"Japan has offered to provide Iran with enriched uranium to ease international concerns over the Islamic Republic's controversial nuclear program, the Japanese Nikkei daily reported on Wednesday."

Report: Japan offers to enrich uranium for Iran (2010)

"The Nikkei daily, without citing sources, reported that the proposal for Japan to enrich uranium for Iran was floated in December, with US approval, when Iran's top nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili visited Tokyo."

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 01:49 | 4081925 Tim_
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Israeli firm’s cameras recording Japanese nuclear core

"Security cameras installed by Israeli defense company at Fukushima plant have ability to detect presence of radioactive clouds in air."

"The Arava-based Magna BSP company, which specializes in producing and installing stereoscopic sensory and thermal imaging cameras, had been contracted to place cameras around one of the plant’s six cores – the core that has been experiencing explosions and overheating."

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 13:03 | 4083116 emersonreturn
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please, Tim, if you could give the link and the date on the Arava-based Magna BSP...


it's been stated several times that robots cannot get into the site, and i'm wondering if the cameras are reportedly still working?  and the core they were contracted to be placed around...any explanation why they singled that one out?  and what information did it report?


thank you

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 13:15 | 4083164 Tim_
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Emersonreturn, some people claim that the jews, instead of installing cameras, installed a bomb to sabotage the reactor.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 17:46 | 4084247 emersonreturn
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Tim, thank you for replying.  

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 07:08 | 4082130 Random
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How about Fukushima disaster is fake (or at least massively blown out of proportion)? I know you like Jim Stone angle for the tie-in with the yids but look deeper (to your other obsession - Hollywood). Fukushima disaster was all CGI, actors and fake news just like 9/11.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 08:09 | 4082205 Running On Bing...
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Inside Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Reactors #1 – #3 the pipes (which had circulated cooling water) are broken, which caused a meltdown. This means the nuclear fuel overheated, melted, and continued to melt anything it touched. Thus it melted through the bottom of the reactor, and then through the concrete floor of the building, and sank into the ground. [...] for two and a half years TEPCO workers have been desperately pouring water into the reactor, but it is not known whether the water is actually reaching the melted fuel. [...] Only the fact that irradiated water is leaking onto the surface of the ground around the reactor is reported. But deep under the surface the ground water is also being irradiated, and the ground water flows out to sea and mixes with the seawater through sea-bottom springs. It is too late to do anything about this. [...] It’s a sad story, but this is the present situation of Japan and of Tokyo. I had loved the Japanese food and this land until the Fukushima accident occurred.


Newspapers: Fukushima problems causing concern in U.S. as radionuclides cross Pacific — EPA: ‘No comment’ on projections of radioactive plume hitting West Coast — California residents beg officials to act

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:19 | 4082379 Maxter
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I went to Japan 2-3 months after the event (equipped with a geiger counter) and I witnessed by myself that this is all too real.  Abnormal radioactivity is present everywhere we wenet in the fukushima prefecture (and that was outside the evacuation zone).  We scanned our food before eating it as some of the stuff in our plates was found to be radioactive.  We also scanned the fields where are host grew is vegetables: there is a top layer of radioactive material everywhere on top of his field and vegetables,  The only reasonable advice we could give to him is to leave the place forever.

I couldn't reach the powerplant itself as we were stopped at a road block before we could reach it, but for sure something big happenend there.  We also withnessed the devastation caused by the tsunami and it is really easy to imagine what hit the powerplant.


Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:46 | 4082463 Running On Bing...
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Did you see the map published by Geomar in the above Scribd link. The whole Pacific is going to be contaminated by 2016.

Looks like a head fake by the Hollyweird Yids. But now they somehow sucked the stupid Germans into it.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:51 | 4082480 Random
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What were the readings (alpha, beta and gamma - if possible)?

Thanks in advance!

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:04 | 4082517 Maxter
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Our reader couldn't tell apart alpha, beta and gamma.

We had spikes as high as 2 mSv/h close to the ground is isolated places.  Generaly, the readings were around the 50 microsievert mark on the ground.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:23 | 4082552 Random
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Here's the gamma radiation charts for my location: (starting May of 2011). I see no increase in the environmental gamma dose and being very concerned at the time of the accident i did my research (before the "fall-out" cloud could have possibly reached my city - this was between 11th and 17th of March 2011). Since that time (as it can be reviewed in the provided link) the gamma radiation level has stayed more or less the same (~100 nSv/h). This does not tie-in at all with the accumulation over a 2.5 years period nor with the 3 full blown meltdowns (not to mention the complete burning of the number 4 spent fuel pool). Note that the distance is irrelevant at this moment since the jet-stream has carried the "fall-out" hundreds of times around the Earth.


Spelling and removing the "bio" part from "bio-accumulation".


Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:24 | 4081745 WillyGroper
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Pthalates have horrible repurcussions on the male fetus. 

Severity differs although hypospadius is common. 

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:44 | 4081866 The Heart
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"1 Km of Fukushima or Fukifornia?"


This is The end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I'll never look into your eyes...again
Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
Desperately in need...of some...stranger's hand
In a...desperate land

Lost in a Roman...wilderness of pain
And all the children are insane
All the children are insane
Waiting for the summer rain, yeah

There's danger on the edge of town
Ride the King's highway, baby
Weird scenes inside the gold mine
Ride the highway west, baby

Ride the snake, ride the snake
To the lake, the ancient lake, baby
The snake is long, seven miles
Ride the snake...he's old, and his skin is cold

The west is the best
The west is the best
Get here, and we'll do the rest

The blue bus is callin' us
The blue bus is callin' us
Driver, where you taken' us

The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on
He took a face from the ancient gallery
And he walked on down the hall
He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he
Paid a visit to his brother, and then he
He walked on down the hall, and
And he came to a door...and he looked inside
Father, yes son, I want to kill you
Mother...I want to...

C'mon baby, take a chance with us
C'mon baby, take a chance with us
C'mon baby, take a chance with us
And meet me at the back of the blue bus
Doin' a blue rock
On a blue bus
Doin' a blue rock
C'mon, yeah

Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill

This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

It hurts to set you free
But you'll never follow me
The end of laughter and soft lies
The end of nights we tried to die

This is the end




Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:07 | 4081564 zorba THE GREEK
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By the time The Olympics comes to Japan, the island will be evacuated due

to unlivable radioactivity.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:22 | 4081601 Incubus
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evacs are for important people.


plebes make their own grave.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:10 | 4081573 IridiumRebel
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I am sure these oarfish are not caused by radioactivity from Fuckedushima. Surely these “ryugu no tsukai” are just something random.

CATALINA ISLAND ( — Could the appearance of rare “sea serpents” washing ashore beaches in Southern California portend disaster?

The question comes following the discovery of the carcass of a rare 18-foot-long oarfish off the coast of Catalina Island on Oct. 13, followed by another snakelike 14-foot-long oarfish found on Oct. 18 in Oceanside.

Fishermen in Japan reported a sharp uptick in oarfish sightings in March 2010 following the massive magnitude-8.8 earthquake in Chile that same month, which marked almost exactly one year before the country was devastated by its own magnitude-8.9 quake in northeast Japan.

Oarfish, which can grow to more than 50 feet in length, are considered the longest bony fish in the world. They typically dive more than 3,000 feet deep, which makes sightings rare and has fueled various serpent legends throughout history.

According to traditional Japanese lore, oarfish rise to the water’s surface and beach themselves to warn of an impending earthquake, a notion that some scientists have speculated could be supported by the bottom-dwelling fish being more sensitive to seismic shifts....or radioactivity.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:25 | 4081611 Incubus
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i welcome it.


the only way to fix it is to flush it all away.



Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:50 | 4081660 BlobbyBlueBland
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I have a suggestion to keep you all occupied.


(learn to swim.)

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:29 | 4081620 CPL
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In Japan they are considered an omen of a Tsunami coming.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:18 | 4081738 IridiumRebel
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Shakita Ganai

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:27 | 4081749 mjcOH1
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Deep Sea Creatures washed up after the Tsunami in Japan

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 01:13 | 4081895 The Heart
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"....or radioactivity."


We have a winner here folks!

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:13 | 4081578 Sweet Chicken
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Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:18 | 4081593 logicalman
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TEPCO admits 1% of the truth, when absolutely forced to.

Fukushima is the biggest man-made environmental catastrophe the world has ever seen, by a huge margin and it still has a better than even chance of getting orders of magnitude worse.

It's a crime against nature, not just humanity.

Not that it will change how bad this is, but maybe an example could prevent a repeat, heads should literally roll.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:21 | 4081599 Harbanger
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1% of the truth is progress.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:24 | 4081607 logicalman
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It's taken over two years to get that far.

Notice I said 'forced to'

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:15 | 4081728 Freddie
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You might want to read this.  It is very well documented.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:03 | 4082320 RiverDrifter
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I do find it very strange that there is no quake damage in any of the thousands of tsunami videos that are out there...and if there is quake damage, it's minimal or normal for a 5 or 6, not a 9.0 or whatever they claim that quake to have been.  

And he's right on in regards to there being no way it was a 9.0 in the first place...I remember that Kobe earthquake he refers to back in the 90's too and it had whole buildings & bridges just lay over on their sides for crissakes - huge creases in highways.  A 9.0 would have been hundreds of times stronger than the Kobe one - think of the damage that SHOULD have caused...not just in/around Fukushima but the entire country would have had significant infrastructure damage.  You see NONE OF THIS in any of the tsunami videos and those were taken what...? ...a good 45 minutes after the quake?  hmm...does seem fishy.  

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:24 | 4081608 loonyleft
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everyone KNOWS it poses absolutely NO RISK at 1.6 becquerels per liter. ZERO. 


In fact it's well below the 90becquerels per liter allowed. 


A less known fact is that there is NO RISK at 1.6 becquerels, 2.4, 26, 88, or even 89.999999becquerels per liter. 


It is only at that finite point of 90 and beyond where it starts to pose risk. 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:04 | 4081701 El Tuco
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Tell that to the sea life around Fukushima and the Pacific. Also, if it's so safe then why the fuck aren't they drinking it instead of trying to store it in tanks? 

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:29 | 4081617 NoDebt
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Nobody gives a crap.  This incident is over.  Doesn't matter the radiation readings, the effects on humans (or animals) or how many articles you post.  This one is being ignored for the most compelling possible reason:  there is no choice but to ignore it.  It can't be fixed.  So it must be denied and ignored.  Any other point of view is insane.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:34 | 4081625 pupdog1
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General Electric Mark I boiling water nuclear reactors. A fine product, although a very old design.

But TEPCO parked half a dozen of them at the beach with a low-bid seawall in a friggin' tsunami zone in one of the most seismically active places in the world.

Jesus H. fucking Christ on a motorcycle!

These TEPCO slime-trail lying bitches make the US Congress look like geniuses.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:58 | 4081795 hungrydweller
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Exactly!  This has nothing to do with nuclear power as a source of clean and reliable energy.  It has EVERYTHING to do with incompetent and culpable TEPCO min-management.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:02 | 4082318 TheMerryPrankster
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Actually it does have a great deal to do with nuclear energy and the fact that humans can't be trusted to use it as we don't know everything that can fuck up our fail safe systems.

The only proven nuclear reactor designs are in the core of stars and nobody lives on a star. Maybe there's a reason for that.

We can barely control electricity, it is only by hubris that we think we can control radioactive fission for long term use.

What's the first thing we did when we discovered fission? Make a bomb to kill each other with, that explains a lot about humanities maturity and ability to control, shape and plan its destiny.

We are children playing with very sharp power tools, its only a matter of time until we are bleeding.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 08:56 | 4082306 TheMerryPrankster
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merely frosting on the cake, the true genius was putting the diesel generators in the basement below the reactors and way below sea level - not for proper engineering design, but to reduce noise levels from the diesel engines.

Guess what got flooded and stopped pumping cooling water into the reactors? The diesel backup generators that were in the basement.

fucking brilliant - emergency generators that are sited in a way that is sure to fail in an emergency. Dominos waiting to fall and the earthquake was just enough push to send them all tumbling.

Greed is blind, deaf and dumb and eventually dead at its own hands. Make all the TEPCO management live on the reactor grounds so they can spend their remaining short lives contemplating the results of their greedy decisions.

Its only fair and the right thing to do, might teach the other psychopaths a bit of caution.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:36 | 4081634 LeisureSmith
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If TEPCO admits to anything, it's safe to assume it is a hundred times worse. Cynical perhaps, but much closer to reality still.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:38 | 4081636 syntaxterror
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According to Fukuppy, the half-life of radioactive cesium is 30 years. So chill.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:39 | 4081638 Son of Captain Nemo
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This one about sums up the aftermath of the U.S. and Japan's efforts for the last 2 years 7 months 10 days.

This is beyond apocalyptic and will undoutedly shorten all our lives if these governments continue to cover up their mistakes instead of attempting to find real solutions to the cleaning up after this catastrophe.
Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:02 | 4081697 ForTheWorld
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I posted that a few days ago, and in the meantime since the story broke, there are people in Australia are saying "Oh, he's just full of shit. He doesn't know what he's talking about.".

Sad but true.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:51 | 4081864 Element
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You realize people make shit up for political purposes all the time. Do you know the guy? No? Well, I don't know anyone who does either.

Skepticism is very healthy, in fact it's an intelligent thing to do. Basing your reality on anecdotes of strangers is not.

Anyway, I loved the part where he suggested his (old) yellow paint was somehow damaged and degraded by something in the water, thus to imply the water is radioactive. If that were so he would not have lived to tell about it, now would he?

Damn my skepticism!

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 07:26 | 4082144 Random
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Don't forget the whale with a giant tumor on its head, oh the horror!!11! The part where the ocean was desolate must be due to radiation not to the big boats that were stripping the coral reef or everything alive (and we know that tuna loves to sit in shallow water) (i smell another bullshit here - stripping the corals that is). If there are no fish in the seas you'd think that it will make the news somehow but eh, fuck it, let's take this guy word instead.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:09 | 4082920 Element
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Ah, I did forget about the toomah on the whale, cheers. Catching tuna on a coral reef, ha! yeah right ... god what a load of complete bullshit. What's more dismal and disappointing is the gullibility of so many supposedly savvy people to that sort of cheap and very obvious clap-trap, that does not stand up to a minute of skeptical analysis of the claims. The oceans are very much not broken in the southern hemisphere around Australia, it could scarcely be more healthy in fact. I suspect our intrepid sailor just read the Stark conspiracy, and got a bit carried away with the fiction genre.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:22 | 4082394 Son of Captain Nemo
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Now that you mention skepticism being such a healthy thing...

I was at a favorite bar about a month ago when a guy and his wife came in and the discussion of Fukushima came up.  Turns out that earlier in the conversation this guy was a 20 + year naval officer in the "silent serivce".  He essentially told me that people didn't know the facts and that our military has been dumping toxic refuse from our ships for decades and he still eats the fish from the Pacific waters.

His response was "It's a big enough body of water to manage it"...  I almost asked him if he was with the DOE or the nuclear regulatory commission but with a the tongue in cheek comment(s) like that -why bother?

To your Health!

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:46 | 4083047 Element
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My scrotum thanks you Sir. btw I eat seafood almost every day from the Pacific and don't intend to stop. I spent over a year at sea a couple of decades back and saw what happens. When the engine needs an oil change they drop a hose out the back in the wash and pump it out. All other rubbish goes over the side. There are sensors on patrol aircraft now that can potentially smell engine oil fumes if you still do that (people have been caught). The west actually used that tech in the 1950s to hunt for diesel submarines that were recharging their batteries at night in the mid-ocean. You find the diesel-engine smell trail by flying transects at low level then fly upwind from a trail you found to try and find the sub that made it. It's one of the reasons why nuclear subs were developed, because the diesel boats were too easy to find this way, and could not survive long in open ocean waters, on patrol. You can bet there are drones with noses as well as eyes today.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:53 | 4083078 Son of Captain Nemo
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Ah.  So I have my answer!

You are either the same individual I had the conversation with last month or perhaps somebody just like him that retired from the U.S. Navy and now works for DOE, NRC or "GE"?...

Thanks for the history lesson on "oil changes" at sea.  Nice to know it's not just napalm, depleted uranium shells and "whiskey pete" among other chemical and biological agents that our military uses to kill human beings with among the other forms of marine life that occupy those "manageable" bodies of water you patrol to safeguard our "Freedom"!

Much obliged  Homer

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 15:31 | 4083788 Element
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No to all of the above weird crap, you have a list of your zh posts, why don't you look up who the fuck you talked to last month?

If you don't like straight analysis and straight talk about facts and observations, as opposed to theories and melodramatic dewy-eyed BS, then you will not like me at all.

I'm OK with that.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 07:12 | 4082133 StychoKiller
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Hmm, attitudes in Australia will change once radioactive shrimp start throwing Humans on the barbie...

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:18 | 4082947 Element
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lol Thanks for that imagery.

btw, it's prawns, not shrimp, Paul Hogan's a dishonourable wanker.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:26 | 4081747 Lore
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Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:33 | 4081757 mjcOH1
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Remember the shrimp fajita you ate last weekend?

Thank you for your contribution to the cleanup effort.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:06 | 4082903 screw face
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shrimp fajita....smothered in black mold


'Nuclear is forever..... bank on it'



Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:34 | 4081759 Jim in MN
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Putting radioactive shit in bags and leaving it in huge piles all over the place....of course.


Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:42 | 4081648 RafterManFMJ
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One kilometer is like, what, 18 feet? So no big deal. It's actually kind of comforting.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:09 | 4081807 Bunga Bunga
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When will the US finally get on the level of most developing countries in terms of measurement units and adopt the SI system?

foot, yard, miles, inches, acres, cubic foots, ounces, pounds, tons, pints, quarts, cups, gallons, barrels, BTUs ... it's a mess.



Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:34 | 4081849 TheReplacement
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So you're saying it's more like 18 inches?  We good right?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:50 | 4081872 Element
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1 km = 3,280.8 ft

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 22:52 | 4081663 Jim in MN
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Let's party!  Bring on the moar typhoons


Two approaching typhoons make October a record month for Japan
Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:03 | 4081698 Money Squid
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"The dismal news keeps coming for the Fukushima nuclear power facility."

What? This is great news. At least the cesium is not found 1,000 km off coast !

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:09 | 4081715 Jack Burton
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I just can't repeat this enough. Three cores are melted down. TECO can't even get close enough to look and see where they are and what state they are in. All they talk about is radioactive water as if that is the problem. That is a byproduct of keeping the melted cores cool enough not to melt further down into the earth.

As of today, not one single engineering plan has been delivered as to the mechanism for dealing with the three melted nuclear cores. This is the problem. Add to that all the spent fuel in storage, all highly deadly. And number four's entire core sitting in a damaged pool with no attempt to sequester or move it to safety. Fukushima is not about radioactive water, it is about a destroyed nuclear plant with 3 meltdowns.

Jesus, this problem is so big the Japs can only piss water onto the whole facility and hope to stop some of it from draining into the sea and water table. Those cores are unstable and melted. Nobdy has a fucking clue what to do. It has been years already and not one ounce of nuclear core materials has been sequestered anywhere safe.

50 years from now these cores will still be melted and spewing radiation. How do you get at them? Humans can't approach them, and robots are not yet capable of doing the physical tasks needed in this mess of tangled radioactive steel and concrete.

The Japs are fucked. The old Russian disaster was nothing in the long run compared to this one.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:34 | 4081761 Money Squid
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you make it sound so serious. If there was a real problem they would not have the olympics there, right?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 01:15 | 4081897 Charles Wilson
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You're right Money Squid.

As Hillary said, "Mistakes were made.."

Give'em a break OK? They just had a bad day that's all.

It was all a misunderstanding.

I'm sure that there are some very smart people working very hard to come up with solutions that we can all live with.

Just a little more time is all they'll need.

It's like Vonnegut said in _Slaughterhouse 5_: "Among the things Billy Pilgrim could not change were the past, the present and the future."  I think that should put a smile on everyone's face, don't you?



Wed, 10/23/2013 - 13:49 | 4083306 Jack Burton
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Nice quote "Charles". "Slaughter House Five" is a must read, a real American classic.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 14:30 | 4083537 Son of Captain Nemo
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To J.B. and C.W.

Kudos to you both for what you said on this hellish nightmare that will be with us long after the three of us are long gone.  In addition to the technical response that has still not been delivered yet for more than 2 1/2 years now, I'm also in awe of what isn't being mentioned about the criminal prosecution of the Israeli Company, (Magna B.S.P.) that was allowed to provide the physical security to those nuclear sites and obviously was allowed to get away with it with it's "backers".  All I can say is that this company may be coming to a number of American commercial nuclear sites if the politicians in Washington allow it.  If that ever happens just think what the "blackmail tank" will look like when the U.S. doesn't do it's bidding?

Perhaps the summer games were awarded to Tokyo as "the shut up moment" with money for destroying those reactors in retaliation for Japan's offer of assistance to Iran's fledgling commerical nuclear aspirations?  God knows they've done it before in the neighborhood back in 1981 -but this one is certainly far different in it's long term consequences.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 02:07 | 4081939 bdub2
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The Russians ran out, all haphazard-like, risking the lives of hundreds of thousands, and then built an entire sarcophagus around the whole damn thing! All this within weeks/months. How irresponsible!

You wouldn't want Abe and The Second Rate Print Nation to just run out and try to do something would you? This little gaff is only a few bechtels, give or take, worse than Chernobyl...What's your hurry? 

If you build a better printer, it solves ALL problems. 


Nothing to see there.

"ain't you gots no Obamacare?"   


Wed, 10/23/2013 - 03:58 | 4082012 AnAnonymous
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Chernobyl reactor halted by itself. Nobody knows why. 'Americans' bitten by their propaganda. Those efforts were useless.

But, hey, this is the 'american' myth: overcoming the environment, so nothing they make can spiral out of control.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 06:08 | 4082090 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous Chinese citizenism citizens have this gift, it must be genetics or something, to offuscate the past.

Chernobyl reactor halted by itself. Nobody knows why.

Really? So when? And this time, a specific example, with dates and all. Not a vague statement to complain about one's own shortcomings.

But, hey, this is the 'american' myth: overcoming the environment, so nothing they make can spiral out of control.

So you will willingfully choose to ignore the lethalest threat on the board game? That's kicking in row z.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 07:39 | 4082153 Random
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"That is a byproduct of keeping the melted cores cool enough not to melt further down into the earth."

How will pouring water on something that is hot (in the hundred C° range if not hotter) help cool the core and stop it from going deeper in the ground? And why will you do that in the first place considering that the core is OUT of the reactor? Don't you see this is all for show, but not as you think (to make people think that TEPCO is controlling the situation) but to create the impression that something happened there and they are battling its effects.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:12 | 4082343 pupdog1
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It's true--there are no plans for this level of accident. They don't even know where the three cores are. Melted right through the concrete base mats. Plans have to be invented from scratch, and TEPCO doesn't look like it could invent a ham sandwich.

And there may be something about "saving face" that keeps them from bringing in the best people (dreaded gaijin!) from around the world.

The real fun will come when they try to move still-radioactive spent fuel rods by hand--a task normally done by machine to a millimeter of accuracy or so, so as not to get one old rod too close to another old rod.

Or, the next decent-size earthquake could bounce those rods around like pick-up sticks.

Either way, criticality. Woosh. No amount of water can cure that.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:09 | 4082917 screw face
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Full steam ahead......Bank on it

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 23:11 | 4081719 icanhasbailout
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wake me when they start admitting finding this stuff in Oregon

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:15 | 4081815 emersonreturn
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the sardines are apparently strangely mysteriously vacant along the west coast.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:37 | 4081844 A. Buttle
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starfish are melting in the waters off Vancouver and Washington state

but I'm sure it's ok, nothing to worry about,

if there were a problem, the health dept would tell us

if they thought there was a problem they would be sending boats out to take water samples and then report the results to everyone

but they don't, so everything is peachy keen



Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:20 | 4081826 CheapBastard
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GE is sure laying low.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:55 | 4081878 emersonreturn
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ge...we bring good things to light...


ge...we bring good things to you...


ge...the gift that keeps giving.







Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:24 | 4081830 yatikto
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look, theres no risk.  as long as you don't drink the water, eat the food, or breathe too close. 

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:28 | 4081836 Element
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I'm not the slightest bit surprised they found it either, if you go 20km offshore you'll find cesium as well. Why? Because three reactors exploded and spewed a huge cloud of radioactive cesium all over the North West Pacific basin, and a lot of it ended up in the water. What do people expect?

It must be a slow news day.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:33 | 4081847 The Heart
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When ever any sentence begins with something like: Blah..blah...some japanese liar says, blah...blah...blah, the only thing to do is turn the page. There will be no truth told here. All we can do is be vigilant and alert to what is happening there in fukushima.

Speaking of here, what is higher are the outdoor readings that have taken an up-tick compared to the normal backgrounds. Todays measurement was 67.5 Counts Per Minute. Our normal back ground has been in the 50's for CPM for the last few years. There have been some seriously higher days also. Last week the typhoon hit japan. We have noted in the past in the ongoing tracking of this fallout and disaster, that it takes any unusual extra outbursts of radiation to get to our region in about seven days. The unusual activity on the 17th is now hitting the west coast. A quick look at the jet stream pattern shows the heaviest concentrations riding along the Canadian border, and onto the upper US east coast areas. Those wall street folks must really like that ultra high radiation fallout, eh! Breath deep. It is going to hit there maybe in greater amounts prolly from the 24th to the 27th from the effects on the 17th of October, 2013. The continuation of higher and higher releases will not stop. The new jet stream pattern takes this radioactive contamination to the upper northern regions more than any place these days. More typhoons are hitting japan. They are going to do what in November?

Lies, all lies. No one sane could be stupid enough to believe what the blah blah blah japanes anyone says. Lies! What you can believe is YOUR OWN DATA, and or a trusted source for daily data. Got Geiger?

Sad, but this is only going to get worse with more daily distractions. The day may soon come for many when the daily meal will be more important than slowly dying from something radioactive in, or outside of them. The environment is taking a lashing, so is the animal life. The ongoing effects and contaminations are ONLY accumulative for every biological life form on the planet from each day forward. The only thing that will stop this ELE is a total stoppage of this population reduction plan NOW!

Got those windows sealed yet?

Sleep tight.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 01:06 | 4081888 emersonreturn
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the heart

 thank you for your words and updates.  along the coast this morning we glimpsed the sea lions returning.  there has been little to see for months---it was glorious...may they travel well, far and with little pain.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 01:33 | 4081911 The Heart
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Roger Roger Emerson.

Looks like the southern parts are not getting the drifting waves as much as the northern parts could be. Surly those folks over on that other web site are keeping track and reporting any anomalies. Give thanks for life in the sea. Which way were them critters headed?

We were taught to be cautious.


Wed, 10/23/2013 - 14:15 | 4083448 emersonreturn
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the heart


they looked to be heading south.  about the water currents some months ago someone posted a link that showed currents, on it hawaii was a hub and from it a very strong stream travelled downward to africa and up to europe and from there down the east of NA and SA.  it demonstrated no one will be unaffected.  if the southern hempishere is apparently unaffected, enjoy, sadly, from that chart it shall only last for a short respite.  our planet is as we all knew but now shall completely comprehend very small.  bless.  

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:35 | 4081854 buttmint
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jack burton--spot on take. No broad imagination is being brought to bear on Fukushima because this deal is the epitome of "outside the box." Never in their wildest imaginations did they ever consider for 2 seconds what is now TEPCO's and the world's living nightmare. Where is Paul Krugman when we need him? Have him bring in some Martians to deal with all. But the fact remains that this is going to get alot worse before any hint of a corner turn is imagined.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 05:50 | 4082080 groundedkiwi
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A corner!, an effin corner! There is no bloody corner you asshole

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:48 | 4081870 tony bonn
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who gives a flying fuck what tepco says about anything? they are liars and terrorists....what a waste of time....anyone with an iq above an artichoke would know that fukushima is gushing radiactivity and has done so since the man made tsunami wrecked the island.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 00:50 | 4081871 ebworthen
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Don't microwaves use radiation to cook food?

I'm waiting for the "Do not worry, cook your hot dog by the shore" advertisements.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 07:18 | 4082138 StychoKiller
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Microwave ovens can be turned on and more importantly:  OFF!

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 08:32 | 4082256 TheMerryPrankster
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microwaves are just that - micro length/ short frequency radiowaves aka radar. They excite the water molecules in food.

totally different than ionizing radiation. its like the difference between a radio and a watch with a radium dial. you could put the radio against your head every day and never get radiated, but if you licked the dial on the watch chances are you'd lose your lower jaw to cancer.

A microwave oven never becomes radioactive because it doesn't produce or use ionizing radiation or radioactive materials.

a nuclear reactor is naught but ionizing radiation and radioactive materials and a damping system, a heat exchanger, a cooling system and a containment vessel. its a great big nuclear powered tea kettle waiting to catch fire.


Wed, 10/23/2013 - 02:48 | 4081961 Sid James
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Welcome to the Hotspot California...

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 02:59 | 4081967 Notarocketscientist
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I was thinking of going to a hot spring in nagano in December - then i came to my senses and decided on europe

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 03:34 | 4081997 Peter Pan
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Even the great wall of China wrapped around Fukushima 100 times won't contain the damage this monster is creating.

This will go down as the greatest man made cancer of the 21st century (to date). 

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 03:35 | 4081998 anonnn
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FYI, per  ,"Sailor’s horrific Pacific journey goes viral" quoting original article in The Newcastle Herald.

However, The Guardian, USA Today and others omit connection to Fukushima radioactive pollution stated in original.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 03:55 | 4082008 AnAnonymous
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Welcome to an 'american' world.

It is a cosy place to live in, you'll see, just do not decide to live on radioactive places.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 05:55 | 4082082 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Chinese citizenism citizens love to picture themselves as innovative. Alas for them, the quality of their propaganda gives them in every time: one pony trick people with no vision, with no imagination. People addicted to theft, copy cats, uncouth roadside public crappers, whose only duty is to spread their low, uninspired, shitty propaganda.

Welcome to an 'AnAnonymist' world. It is a cosy place to live in, you'll see, just do not decide to walk along the roadside without wearing hip waders.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 04:56 | 4082049 Royal Wulff
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Please quit with the hype. 1.6 Bq/liter is less than a banana.


Wed, 10/23/2013 - 05:01 | 4082051 acommenter
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I like frozen fishes very much because they are tasty, nutritious and relatively cheap. When I shop, I always check the fishing area. I stopped buying fishes from the North Pacific ocean, only from the Atlantic after the Fukushima incident...

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 05:09 | 4082057 goldenbuddha454
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I stopped buying gulf seafood after BP.  Am I overreacting?  Maybe, maybe not.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 05:14 | 4082062 Hengist
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Wed, 10/23/2013 - 05:07 | 4082055 goldenbuddha454
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And people wonder why so many people they know are getting cancer.  This situation is already becoming worse than Chernobyl.  The pacific food chain will be thoroughly contaminated if they don't get their act together, IMO.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 05:13 | 4082061 Hengist
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You do know that Perrier water contains radioactive Cesium, We tested it at college with a mass spectrometer.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 09:05 | 4082324 MassDecep
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They also put fluoride in Perrier and most bottled water. Ya just gotta have white teeth....and a dumbed down brain.

The levels are listed in

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 06:46 | 4082112 VillageIdiot00420
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I am wondering about something, where are these hackers releasing this supposed information on me. I don't understand why 2 months later they are still bothering me and what data they gave you. Can anyone provide a link. It's strange so many people seem to know so much about me when I don't even have a facebook page. Also why do so many of you people seem to have such hatred for me, that is what is confusing me. How would you react in my situation having hackers harassing you and giving out all kinds of personal information as well as accusing you of all kind's of shit. Any comments would be much appreciated, when complete strangers openly discuss personal information about me it just makes me wonder. One minute I'm bothering noone the next minute I have a bunch of hackers declaring jihad against me and a bunch of complete strangers who I've never met or talked with hating me and wishing me misfortune for some reason. I'm still confused to be  honest what have I done to any of you and why do these hackers keep this up. You think after 2 months they would have grown bored.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 07:36 | 4082151 djsmps
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What will the swimsuits look like?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 07:39 | 4082155 UncleFurker
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For those about to be irradiated... just in case you haven't seen the FOIA documents yet...



Wed, 10/23/2013 - 08:56 | 4082305 MassDecep
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Great research! Doesn't get much more "on the inside than this".

Confirms why we have all been feeling so crappy.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 07:45 | 4082161 wattsnotsaid
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I'm tired of hearing about Fuki. The scare mongering and inability of the authors and readers to properly place this in perspective leads me to question their ability to do the same for investments.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 07:57 | 4082180 Shaten
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My friend starting eating a lot of tuna in california over the last couple of months, Radioactive mercury in the fish built up. It's flushing now, but I would avoid any pacific fish for a few years.

Thu, 10/24/2013 - 00:00 | 4085125 Element
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Well your imaginary 'friend' is completely full of shit, the unstable mercury isotopes have half-lives measured in hours to mins, and most of them are very very much shorter than that.

Have a colonic moonbat.

Thu, 10/24/2013 - 00:23 | 4085150 The_Prisoner
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The Ocean is Broken: Account by an Australian Yactchsman sailing off Japan's waters to Hawaii.

"The boat's vivid yellow paint job, never faded by sun or sea in years gone past, reacted with something in the water off Japan, losing its sheen in a strange and unprecedented way."


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