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Administration Enforces Radiosilence On Obamacare Enrollment Numbers
During this morning's Congressional hearing on the failure of Obamacare, one of the developer's let slip a little too much truth:
CGI exec says she is not allowed to publicly say how many people have enrolled via http://t.co/25y1SOfdCF
— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) October 24, 2013
While the self-proclaimed 'most transparent' administration fights off the French and the German over spying 'lies', and gags insurers from publicizing how many people have signed up for Obamacare, it seems the cover-up goes even further with everyone involved silenced (for now).
The CGI's statement confirms more evidence of the administration hiding the truth as InForum noted recently:
Feds ask Blue Cross Blue Shield not to release exchange numbers
The Obama administration asked North Dakota’s largest health insurer not to publicize how many people have signed up for health insurance through a new online exchange, a company official says.
During a Monday forum in Fargo for people interested in signing up for coverage via the exchange, James Nichol of Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Dakota told the crowd his company received the request from the federal government earlier Monday. Nichol is a consumer sales manager for the company.
Still, a spokeswoman from Blue Cross Blue Shield says about 14 North Dakotans have signed up for coverage since the federal exchange went live Oct. 1. That brings total statewide enrollment to 20 – less than one a day.
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I heard about 30,000.
Even if 1 million sign up prior to February (their drop dead date), paultry numbers!! They need 7 mil to sign up to meet goals of funding! LOL, no way that happens now, peckerwoods!
The govt is so effective and efficient isn't it ROFLMAO....$6 million for this failure? What a farce.
Okay, so she can't say the number publicly... how about if she stomps her foot instead?
She could click her heels together three times...me thinks she's not in Kansas anymore!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbgaJvaGUnk
Nice Zero, a bring back to reality there, LOL!!! I admit, that animal can count baby!
we *know* that the enrollment numbers are high
how do we know?
because we the people elected the lawmakers who voted for this legislation
it was a mandate
from we the people
because we have been clamoring for compulsory insurance
and that is why we are signing up for it
in droves
Droves you say sheep? How many? Gimme a number? Total? Hello, McFly?
Obamacare will go down as the most expensive boondoggle in the history of the nation. All this pomp and circumstance over a product that no one wants. Priceless.
this isnt even close to our most expensive boondoggle
forget the bailouts perchance?
Do they really expect many people to watch this video with Opassthebuck's picture on it? No way I'm going to subject myself to more of his lying crap.
Many sources that say: Total Bankster/Corp. Bailouts foreign and domestic equaled 16 trillion$ over the last five years.
But that 3.7 Trillion$ (approx.) in the last 5 years for Welfare is far more important or the 6 Billion$ on this subject.
Not to mention the Trillion$ that have been poured into the MISSC(SS = Security State) in the last decade...Justified by the lies of 9/11.
Funny how outrage works isn't it?
Ever heard of Iraq?
Have YOU heard about entitlements?
Or Nam?
Because they say so, thats why!
Can't you see that people, being forced under threat of IRS sanction, are crashing this brand new, gleaming Amazon/Google-like, 600 million dollar, un-affordable health care crisis thing-a-mah-jiggy because they don't want to go to jail, where their healthcare needs would certainly be provided for frrreeeee!
Krugman says its just a demand problem, overwhelming the supply of rocks, for the breaking windows that didn't need to be broken and were perfectly functional that needs to be solved now...then its all clear sailin ;-)
What's up nmewn?
I have read the only means of sanction the IRS can utilize when collecting a penalty for non-enrollment is the garnishment of the fine from an individuals income tax refund.
"Unlike other taxes and penalties, the ability of the IRS to enforce and collect the mandate tax is constrained. Under § 1501(g)(2) of the ACA, the agency is precluded from using its traditional means of collecting fines and back-taxes. The law provides that those facing the penalty “shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty” for nonpayment. Moreover, liens and levies cannot be placed on the property of the uninsured. Therefore, the only means of collection at the IRS’s disposal is the garnishment of the uninsured person’s income tax refund. This narrow window affords intuitive would-be tax-avoiders the opportunity to flout the system."
http://americanactionforum.org/weekly-checkup/loophole-gives-uninsured-w...
I haven't had a refund since the 80's so to hell with them.
Edit: from US code ACA 1501(g)(2)
(2) Special rules
Notwithstanding any other provision of law—
(A) Waiver of criminal penalties
In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
(B) Limitations on liens and levies
The Secretary shall not—
(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5000A
I am reiieved by this because this current administration, unlike the previous two, would never think of ignoring the law as written. <ROFL>
You have to admit, this is a particularly Chicago-style brazen, out the backdoor cronyism is one thing. In your face "I'm a dictator and will decide patronage based on my executive privilege & regulatory enforcement" is another.
I think its time for the House & Senate to have their own standing armies too.
That should settle "law" once and for all ;-)
Hey there Alaric...just surviving on this end, beats the 50-50 shot with the alternative.
Yeah, thats the way I understand it too. They confiscate any overage you pay in federal income tax. Isn't that touchy-feely, Big Brothery watchin after your best interests (for them) type stuff all over again?...lol.
Like you, I run it down to the very nub & under, usually paying THEM every tax return, anywhere from $100 to $1,500, they can wait for their payday, just like me and everyone else.
If the "law" stays in force it will be amended in the future (just like every other law) to where they will lien your property or garnish your wages or seize it from your bank account...of this I have no doubt. They tied it to the IRS for enforcement...again...very touchy-feely. Our children can look Forward! to a century of amendments to this.
At least we've finally put to bed the old statist/elitist canard that taxes are "voluntary". And I have never done tribute very well either...I find it revolting ;-)
The apple is rotten to the core.....these people have judges msm police mugged
So what if they don't get 7 million? So what if they don't get 700,000? Since when has the government cared if it's programs lose money or fail to hit goals? The law still stands until they replace it with single-payer. Which people will be begging for in a couple years. They'll fuck this up so bad people will be BEGGING for single payer.
NoDebt, aren't you the smart one, that is the ultimate goal...one payer! The Govt!!
I am the govt and am here to help you.
I pity the fool.
You don't need to be very smart to know which way the wind is blowing.
49.2% on some form of .gov assisstance, does that sound close to a tipping point? I think so. The MIC and the Welfare state must end soon? You can't take in $2.7 trillion and spend $3.8 trillion per year and expect to survive very long. Been happening a while now, all the puppets know who they are. Fuck you for selling us out, so called Repuglicans, to the Demoncrats...we are now a mandated nation...ideas so good you see.
Probably far short of 12.....
Yes, Barry was right. This is SOOO transparently FUNNY!!!
5000 monkeys on keyboards typing computer code for "Oh-oh Care"
Hahahahaha!!!!
Three years of monkey hammering...ya gotta luv it...lol.
Well, I guess next they're gonna blame the contractors (again) which opens up the whole "good stewards of the publics money" dealy bop.
"Supervision? What supervision?
Hell, we wrote them a government check! This isn't like a life or death situation we're talkin about here! Its just money we don't have. If we find that the contractors have not fulfilled their obligations or didn't use due diligence in executing the RFP's, we'll sic the ole gunrunner Holder himself on em.
We're washing our hands of this entire matter now!"
The usual DC escape hatch ;-)
'Monkey hammering'...not sure if it's your time of the month or you have a yeast infection affecting your thought processes but don't even think about it buddy! (jk)
Jeff Foxworth; "A check! Hell yes I can write you a check! I can pay the whole thing(car) off right now! I thought you needed money!" WTF, it's our money so who cares? Right?
Thats the least of our problems the banks have 80 TRILLION Dollars in derivative "assets" (assets pfft).
That shits gona go down , and someone is going to have to print 80 trillion and bail them out
If memory serves, isn't there $700 TRILLION in total derivatives out there??? A LOT are IRS's, which seem to be breathing again, now that 10 yr is down a bit...how long will that last? Dunno, but the $ is fading fast, eh? Yellen will double down, the same woman who did not see 2007-2008 collapse, now leads the illegal Fed...gotta love it man! Keep the spigot open for insolvent banks Yellen, just gives me more time to prep...
prepare accordingly!
$700 tn in IRS.
$700tn in other derivatives.They stopped reporting these under new FASB revisions.
$1.4 quadrillion total.
Trillions are so 20th century.
I really hope the new world currency is going to be Zimbabwe dollars.
Otherwise I think something bad might happen.
$6 million for this failure?
Try $6 BILLION.
Other Peoples Money, comrades. I love how the wind blows it, when Nancy Pelosi tosses a bushel of it over her empty little head.
Aer you kidding me mac? Is that the actual pricetag? Fuck sake we are fucked, mother fucker! How in the blazes does this happen...$6 BILLION????
I shake my head in disbelief...
$6 billion is unrealistically optimistic, Abi.
$6.02 x 1023 is more like it (also known as one molebuck).
Lets make tha $636,000,000.00 for this crap...
Too many numbers rolling around here..what is it? 6 mil, 600 mil or 6 bil...
a b c vote on it...
For the website? $600MM. For the whole mess: more money than exists in the entire world.
Ok, that does check out. AS to all money in the world, don't say that to Ben or Janet.
Ben and Janet are not acquainted with money. They only know about currency.
The projected costs for ACA over the next ten years is $2.6 trillion, and that is if they hit their numbers. This turkey is going down. The GOP wasted a lot of political capital for nothing.
Maybe that's why they've borrowed another $350 billion plus in the last few days since they raised (or was that eliminated?) the debt limit.
No the the bill was $636M for the product they delivered Oct.1, by this point it actually could be over a billion dollars, for a damn website and online account application that doesn't even work yet.
Did even one of those thieving ass clowns who testified on Capital Hill and swore it wasn't "their fault" give any indication that they are anywhere near finished bilking the taxpayer for fixing "someone else's" error?
I'll bet they sent in a bill for their time and travel expenses to come tell everyone they were not at fault.
I think that 30,000 number was floated in NY, and the truth was something like 70% of that was enrolled in Medicaid, which really is just a side part of 0zer0care because it is administered by the state. So those people really signed up on a state run site, not the 0zer0care site. The truth is probably much closer to the 14 N.Dakota figure. If people were signing up in droves, then the lamestream media would have no trouble rounding up anecdotal examples to plaster all over the news 24/7. Likewise, 0zer0 wouldn't have needed a fake pregnant fainter as a prop to his 0zer0care ShamWow commercial. He would have had REAL success stories as examples. The fact that neither is happening shows this is just a first class govt clusterfark. Oh, BTW, there is another number floating out there as well. Some 16 million can expect to see their healthcare plans cancelled because of 0zer0care. So much for "If you like your plan, you can keep it." Better get that website fixed PDQ... the hole is getting bigger everyday.
+1 for ShamWow reference.
Winning.
"You're gonna love my nuts!"
—Barry ShamWoWBama
Sell comsumer stocks...everyone will be broke paying 7k a year 15k if you smoke.
They want a moar bigger depression
But wait! There's more.....
After BLS seasonal adjustment ?
Clusterfuck
1-800-CLUSTR-FUCK-YO
30,000 pregnant illegals have successfully signed up for obama care.
This must be the largest demographic, you can't make this stuff up. Meanwhile, thousands of Americans are losing their Healthcare, lovely! Ozerocare to the rescue! LOL
In his defense there are 43 people in North Dakota.
North Dakota is best Dakota.
...all with the same last name, and several with same first name ("this is my brother Daryl...")
This doof & his minions have got to go
If you take the still of Barry, and voice-over the Madagascar Penguins "Youuuu didn't see anything", I think it goes viral.
Barry jumps the shark.
Barry's doing a triple Axel over the shark, and he looks fabulous!
Well, the shark bites, with his teeth dear, to keep them pearly white!
This might take awhile
You mean until we get to single-payer? Yeah. But even that won't take all that long. The more they screw this up, the faster single-payer arrives.
O just doesn't want anyone to brag about how wonderful everything is going with ZeroCare. Modesty is one of his many, many virtures. /sarc
Most fun I've had in years!
I'd bet at this moment there are people being paid in .gov to try and create viral YouTube videos about how cool you are if you sign up for Obamacare.
Cue the hot girl doing a cock-block and telling the guy "not until you sign up for Obamacare".
Cue the boyz in da' hood rappin' about how cool it is to sign up wit da' man.
Cue Parents holding a baby looking into the camera saying they are doing the right thing "for their child".
Cue the Prez. doing 30 second propaganda snippets for K-6 elementary school kids to tell their Parents to "do the right thing, and when you get older, remember to do the right thing too."
They can try, but there's nothing cool about this. It's MySpace healthcare.
If they were smarter, and they aren't, they just should have enlisted Fuckerberg to have enrollment done as a prerequisite to using Facebook(US). That would have precluded spending more than $1/2Bn BennyBucks on a new site which doesn't work and has no value whatsoever but at least gotten their numbers up. Then again, the exodus from FB would have cost Fuckerberg another bundle in stock value when millions dropped it. Eh, it's only taxpayer money and more debt...
http://youtu.be/b_jnE3OdxNw
Deborah's Covered. You Can Be Covered Too!http://youtu.be/VpLct6WJOSE
Are you fucking kidding me....
FSA memeber waiting at the bus stop with her 14 kids..."Thank god for obamacare."
FSA member's deadbeat babydaddy...."THANK GOD FOR OBAMACARE!"
Fresh college grad feeling lucky to have a $35k/yr foot-in-the-door job...."WTF?!?!?"
You mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjfmY7K32NE
I say no one should sign up for Obama care. Let's see some civil disobedience take hold and see what these asshats running the gov't can do about it. We'll defund this fucker right now, at the source. No one pay the fine either, let them come and start garnishing wages and freezing accounts. That will pull the mask off of these tyrants!
Sounds like more people received cancellation notices than have enrolled in Obamacare.
I received my cancellation notice 30 days ago.
Most people I've talked to are pissed and reaching critical mass.
I'd carry a sign: We've been cancelled. We can't "keep" our coverage. Stop the lies! Repeal Obamacare 2014, Don't sign up.
It will be a single issue in 2014.
What happened to, "Never let a good crisis go to waste?" Paging: Ram E.Manhole.
The fuller articulation is "Never let sombody ele's crisis go to waste"
About one's own crisis: "Cover it up until we can make it somebody else's crisis"
If they say nothing then they have nothing.
Arrest the Washington D.C. globalist traitors. Make them tell us how they get their money.
From Bernanke. It's 'free.'
Just like us. /sarc
Wow...six anarchist democrat senators (after voting in lock-step with Reid), want to hold the country hostage by delaying ObamaCare, the ever-changing on a Presidential whim "law of the land". Its like they don't care about "young mothers with breast cancer". Now they don't want to move Forward! for some reason...must be an election coming up...lol.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/t/story/now-democrats-obamacare-delayed-20673164
Its like Ted Cruz is a clairvoyant or sumpin ;-)
People including the Grandstand Rand fanbois are losing their minds over what he did. Check this hit piece out over at Huffpo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/24/ted-cruz-health-care_n_4157938....
Basically they are calling him a tit sucker for doing what any family that can get spousal coverage would do regardless of who they work for.
It is called household budgeting and finance that people who live in the fucking real world have to deal with.
Progressives are fucking idiots.
"Of course there's a cost to taxpayers," Kleinbard told HuffPost.
As with any family on employer-sponsored coverage, Heidi Nelson Cruz's health insurance essentially functions as untaxed income. Rather than pay her an additional $20,000 in salary, Goldman compensates her just as much through her health plan, which the Cruz family won't have to pay taxes on.
Assuming the Cruz family falls into the highest tax bracket -- generally a safe assumption for a Goldman managing director -- Kleinbard, like the economist Dean Baker, estimates that the $20,000 Goldman plan amounts to about $8,000 in taxes that the general public won't see.
"Instead of getting compensation in cash and then shopping for insurance, they're getting an $8,500 federal subsidy," Kleinbard said. "If Goldman said, 'Here's cash, go buy your own policy,' that would cost them $8,500 in federal taxes. By structuring it this way, Goldman has saved them $8,500."
Just trying to sort through the statist mindset & pretzel logic gives me a headache.
The "cost to taxpayers" is...exactly zero.
The loss of tax revenue to the federal government is $8,000-$8,500, if they can ever decide on an exact figure.
Yes, Progressives are Fabian Socialists. the turtle and the wolf in sheeps clothing, both are cunning and slow, stealthy and wiley. These kind have been building this 'empire' for 100 years or so....
Socialists will not run out of money, until they run out of yours!!! Thatcher may have been a bitch, but she was right.
Here's an idea, let's TAX GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES on the value of their healthcare subsidy (which is twice the cost to federal government per employee according to some HuffPo cock smoker's "definition").
At some point these fools need to slapped upside the head like dumb-ass useless bitches they are.
The "cost" is the amount the employer PAYS not the amount of "benefit" the employee RECEIVES. They are different amounts. Anyone who does not understand this belongs on the bottom of the social pyramid.
Unfortunately, and particularly when talking about US employees- their COST ALWAYS EXCEEDS THE BENEFIT and usually does so by at least five figures.
Rant over...
"Here's an idea, let's TAX GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES on the value of their healthcare subsidy (which is twice the cost to federal government per employee according to some HuffPo cock smoker's "definition")."
Thats just crazy talk!...lol.
+1
well, it's not like he's mexican
Not only are "progressives" idiots, they are completely predictable.
Just so you know, I wrote a long letter & affixed my real name to a piece of paper and sent it to a real judge vouchimg for the integrity & responsiblilty an illegal Mexican a few months back.
Cruz is, however, quite legal...and can speak for himself and Texas very well.
Nice try though ;-)
Step 1: Implement a plan which is not single payer to pander to the middle.
Step 2: At roll out, fuck it up and piss people off so they cant get coverage. Make people pay the "fine" for zero coverage and waive to fine for your voting block.
Step 3: "Save the day" with a single payer plan which increases the "penalty" on non-enrolled as well as non-approved plans.
Step 4: Implement a new tax which applies across the board for everyone and implement complete single payer.
Gotta be...not even Obama, with 600 million BennyBucks to toss around could fuck up the creation of a simple website, without fucking up being the objective.
I know its a pretty straight forward thinking, simplistic even, but its the only thing that makes any sense at all with the carnage happening with peoples private health insurance since they passed this POS.
most transparent administration in history, I seem to remember hearing that from some guy a few years back.
Now, do opposite guy and you understand.
Gag order here, threaten journalists there, tell people not to go to Drudge or zero hedge for their news. Spy on everyone, very transparent. hahaha. Jus like Bushie with his no foreign wars or nation building. Reagan for small gov (while growing gov every year) Clinton not having sexual relations with that woman. I think Carter was more inept than a bold faced liar and I appreciate him for that.
My man is still here..http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/330497-snowden-fires-back-at-feinstein-over-surveillance-claim#ixzz2ifqcYtwc. Git em dawg!
Re Administration Gag Order
Loose Lips Sink Ships - in this case The Ship Of State.
Ship of Fools is more like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzoOYUR5QQ
Same thing ;)
I'm shocked I tell you, shocked.
A little Remy Martin Louis XIII to calm Capt. Renault's nerves perhaps?
All of the cadavers and Disney characters that voted in the 2012 election are registered. That's prolly a couple hunnid k to start
Anyone who listens to one fucking word out of Obama's mouth should walk to the clinic and sterilize themselves. You are not capable of independent critical thought, are degenerative, and have nothing to offer society. Better yet just kill yourself.
The 20 somethings should just show their middle finger.
Illegals get free medical care and don't have to pay anything.
It is not relevant how many sign up now. What are you going to do after you sign up? Go to the doctor tomorrow? NO! because coverage doesn't begin until Jan 1. Most people are poking around the system, if their state websites are up, to learn about their options.
Weird..
I heard it was already closer to 360 million sign-ups, with 41 of the 57 states reporting...
guillotine, few "choice" heads and loose lips will begin to sink ships.
To bad for Obama the web site does not work otherwise he would have the entire free shit army signed up paying a grand total of 0. I went to the doctor the other day and asked my doctor what she thought about Obama care. She said she wasn't allowed to say but she gave me a look of total frustration. She also said that if you want to see what the U.S. is going to look like in a few years go watch the Hunger Games. This is just the tip of the iceburg.
P.S. I just got a flu shot and I'm now stuck at home with a case of the flu. Anyone else have that experience?
yep and ive never went back for another. ps shes right
Flu shot seems a bad idea to me. The problem is when they have another H1 or something like that that they don't predict or have vaccine ready for. Those that have been immunized, never had the flu and thus have no natural immunity are screwed. I'll take my chances with the flu until I'm 65 or so, then take the vaccine. Those alive long enough ago to have been exposed to the 70s swine flu did better with the most recent iteration (admittedly a pussy by flu standards)
Read up on SV40 virus and then tell me if you want any form of immunization or shot of any kind...
Boehner is probably hogging up all the bandwidth trying to be first. [/sarc.]
I dare him to send some to prison over this.
Field of nightmares.
“If you only imagine you built it, nobody can possibly come”.
I wonder how many people who think they signed up still aren’t enrolled?
Barry O'Boner - the cockup stops here.
SO whats the thinking on the next "event" to distraction......Imagration coming up, buch od illeagles shot up by a buch of raciest teabaggers?
I guess Barry didn't read "The New New Thing".
How in the hell does the media let the Obama administration get away with this? If anyone wonders if this is still a free country. Well therein lies your answer.
Edit: I'm starting to wonder if there is no one left in the Democrat leadership that does not have a mental disorder to go along with this insanity. Maybe the dictatorship is complete and I'm just not aware of it.
The corrupting influence of power. There's nothing like being on the winning team, and no stronger desire than to stay there.
Call the BLS for correct numbers of any sort (hee hee) they will confirm them.
Obama has no legal power to order any private individual, nor corporation to not disclose info to Congress. Even a fool knows Obama needs to hide something. Even if some fools sign up, cash squeezes will result in missed payments and likely cancellations. Without expected revenues, insurance companies will drop out like flies. The planned future insurance failure by the Obamaites, may occur much sooner to smear their leader. Failure will crush Obama's image. Their god revealed as the village idiot in a disguise.
To HELL with this Obumma care ......
They can not garnish wages, they can not put a lien on your property...
They can only take the fine from your TAX REFUND.
"However, it is not subject to the enforcement provisions of subtitle F of the Code. The use of liens and seizures otherwise authorized for collection of taxes does not apply to the collection of this penalty. Non-compliance with the personal responsibility requirement to have health coverage is not subject to criminal or civil penalties under the Code and interest does not accrue for failure to pay [the fine] in a timely manner." Therefore, the only way that they can collect the penalty or the fine is by taking money from your refund. If you are not owed a refund, they cannot get money from you. They can't issue a lien. They can't garnish your wages. They can't use any of the normal procedures available to them if you owe them money, even though the Supreme Court has said it's a tax. So for those of us -- I mean, folks, I'm in fat city. I'm in fat city because I always structure to where I owe money. Well, not entirely. There have been years. But if you structure your taxes so that you do not get a refund, you do not have to buy insurance and you do not have to pay a fine 'cause they can't collect it from you if you don't have a refund due. And that is just another nail in the coffin of Obamacare imploding on itself."
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/10/24/opt_out_obamacare_penalty_c...
Thanks for that tip off, Duc888. I live in Massachusetts, the first plank of this un-Affordable Care Act which came here first, and it is enforced under threat of being illegal if one does not comply. This is riches for the insurance company and their DC lobbyists, of course. But it is intimidating for law-abiding people, like me.
Now I will make the time to opt out after researching whether your comment applies in MA.
Another way this scam works: most people who can afford to pay for their health insurance are much too busy earning a living to get involved in the minutae of bureaucracy, unless provoked.
Now, I am provoked. The scam ends for me pronto.
I saw this on Limbaugh's website too. The only caveat was brought up by a listener and is recorded on the transcript...the problem with this is that they aren't obeying their own law. Obama is making adjustments as he goes, and the HHS Secretary has what amounts to a blank check in regard to shaping the law (which is written in as part of the law). So yeah, they'll take it from you however they want when it comes to actual practice. These Marxists are pissing on the law left and right; the Rule of Law means nothing to them.
The constitution requires him to faithfully execute the laws. The only thing preventing impeachment, strictly on the facts, is Democrats and their base. We have rule of man now, Rule of law is becoming a joke.
Thank you duc888 and thank you Rush.
I know nussing!!
'Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake,' said Napoleon. This is good advice now for anyone who detests central control by the crypto-fascists.
Senators Rand Paul and Ted Cruz: you have won the battle. Don't lose the war. Let events unfold. Let facts and figures reveal your enemy's abject failure.
Then, only then, wield the sword of truth again.
It's more likely that Democraps and Repugnants will give Obama$care an easy exit from its current woes in order to save face.
Fighting is not enough. Only winning makes the battle worthwhile. In my opinion.
I agree. On the other hand, I will never trust another politician with my freedom. Even the best of them are part of the Evil Empire.
"Fighting is not enough. Only winning makes the battle worthwhile. In my opinion."
Right-thinking people have been on the defensive against the lefty-libtards for way too long. We cannot win against this tribe of totalitarian savages unless we attack. The conservative strategy of not showing up to street riots has been a failure.
You can't handle the truth!
Really? Try me.
Although I was never a fan of the ACA, it does not strike me as completely valid that problems with the website, even if it took a few months to work out the kinks, were fatal to the concept. However, it occurs to me that something new may be happening. Is it possible that the administration has totally miss-understood the potential market for health insurance? That even if these ACA websites worked perfectly, that the amount of uninsured signing up for new insurance is but a fraction of what the govt estimated? The ACA plan was written by people who do not as a matter of idealogy believe in the free-market definition of supply & demand. Many of the new policies appear to have very high deductibles, so that after paying say, $6,000 per year for insurance, the mark then pays the first $8,000 or so of medical cost before the insurance kicks in. Why else is the govt so determined not to reveal sign-up numbers?
What's up with the huge price disparity depending on where one lives? This thing is a complete farce and the worst of all possible solutions to a serious issue.
It's the government.
Like the BLS, they haven't a clue.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/24/the-biggest-f...
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Rep. Joe Barton (R-Tex.) grilled CGI’s Campbell on a warning on the Web site that information visitors entered into the system would be subject to greater disclosure than the medical forms Americans typically fill out. That information is protected under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), a privacy law.
“Are you aware this was in the source code? Do you think that’s HIPAA compliant?” Barton asked. “Admit it! You're under oath.”
“Sir, that is CMS’s decision to make,” she replied, referring to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the agency within the HHS that is overseeing implementation of Obamacare.
“We're telling every American if you sign up for this, or you even attempt to sign up, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy,” Barton said. “That is a direct contradiction of HIPAA, and you know it.”
“That is a CMS call,” Campbell said. “That is not a contractor call.”
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HIPAA violations galore like they didn't see that one coming. Gentlemen warm up your lawsuit engines.
NBC Evening News was careful to tout the number of people who registered while failing to mention the number who actually enrolled. Now we know why the gubmint made people register before they could even see the plans or prices.
Another interesting problem...people are loosing their insurance old faster than they can sign up for the newer more expensive version.
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Just popped over to Lucianne.com, a huge nest of conservative sheeples. They're all flinging contumely at Kathleen Sebelius for not implementing Obummercare. Shouldn't they be congratulating her?
I know I know, must be Indian programmers screwed healthcare.gov.
The Constitution says 'any right not specified in Constitution belongs to the States'.
Federal gov took away states' rights without their permissions.
You don't compare all of Obamacare to anything. You compare each of the 48 states to Massachusetts, where RomneyCare has been running successfully for 7 years now.
Wilbur Ross is revered as a union-buster. How many people has Wilbur Ross singlehandedly pushed to Obamacare? LOL And just think of President Obama as Wilbur Ross.
To say that RomneyCare has been running successfully depends on what definition of success one uses. Using the Marxist definition then you could say it has been successful.
Media blackout! Right out of the Nazi playbook. You thought the Bush crime family were the only American Nazis in the game. Think again!
This whole debacle makes me think it is a convenient smokescreen to divert attention from the actual price of the gubmint insurance, the scandals like BenghaziGate and IRS targeting and (ect, ect, ect); now it also looks like a convenient opportunity for certain Democrat Senators to come out in favor of delaying the Individual Mandate in order to seem like Heroes of the Common Man to their voters. It is a collapse-o-matic for a reason, not by chance. Mark my words.
Or maybe the traitorous republican party wanted a diversion after they bravely ran away from the perilous POTUS?
This may be the reason why.
http://www.centralx.com/diseases/icd889.htm
CGI Group up 125% over the last 3 years.... Bullish fuckuppy's.....
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GIB+Interactive#symbol=gib;range=2010...
Progressives should be outraged, but are by now numb and dumb from repeated blows of "hope and change". When economically stressed voters realize how they have been hoaxed, dems may soon learn why the Mafiosi say "revenge is a dish best served cold."
The interesting question now is whether Hillary breaks and runs from this debacle or bravely smiles until her face cracks.
Silence? It's a public program. My god Adolf would be proud