This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.

An Open Letter To Russell Brand

Tyler Durden's picture


Russell Brand's excited exchange with stoic Brit Jeremy Paxman this week is a must-see "exchange of new ideas vs old." Among Brand's clearer moments were "stop voting, stop pretending, wake up. Be in reality now, time to be in reality now. Why vote, we know it's not going to make any difference, we know that already." The excellent discourse has prompted this open letter supporting the comedian.. concluding so legitimately nowadays, with Upton Sinclair's infamous quote "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."


The original interview (grab a beer and watch - you'll be surprised):


CoinAxis blog's Open Letter to Russell Brand:

Dear Russell:

I just finished watching your interview with Jeremy Paxman, aside from Mr. Paxman being a trite individual, it was fantastic exchange of new ideas vs. old.  I'm sure you were expecting Sinead O'Conner, or Miley Cyrus to write you this open-air missive.  Alas, I'm going to underwhelm you, because my fame and fortune are nonexistent.  So, here it is, you get me, Michael, writing you in hopes to get your attention to some important issues, in which are pertinent to your revolutionary interview.

As you summarized in your interview, people that have any sense, realize that voting changes nothing. Voting is an occupation for the disillusioned, the elderly, and hopeful tyrants.  We all know that voting for a new master every four years, still doesn't make you free.  Even still, the capacity to vote on people's fundamental human rights is the antithesis of freedom.  Yet, this is the paradigm we live under, and are born into.  In the United States there are approximately 240,000,000 people who are of voting age.  In the 2012 elections, the total votes cast was approximately 130,000,000.  That's a deficit of 110,000,000 people.  It ends up around 65,000,000 people elect a supposed "leader" for the remaining 310,000,000.  Of those voting, only a small percentage actually know what & how the government works.  Although, they parrot the talking points like good citizens, as their smug partisan destroy lives.

In 2012 the FEC stated that $7 billion dollars was spent on the elections, with the large banking institutions leading the charge.  Most of it was spent on marketing.  Controlling the narrative in the media, and greasing the hands of the well connected. It's a revolving door of political incest, and none of them care about anything other than the status quo. Free indeed.

Stop voting, stop pretending, wake up. Be in reality now, time to be in reality now.  Why vote, we know it's not going to make any difference, we know that already. ~ Russell Brand

If the oligarchy can payout 7 billion in an election cycle, then the only chance the average person has, is to do guerilla marketing.  What does that mean?  It means writing open letters to the people that have a voice in media (you see what I did there?).  It means introducing new ideas to your community, and making changes from the ground up.  You know, I found it so enlightening to see someone in your position in the media, that would take such a stance against voting (and the system).  I'm sure in people's heart of hearts, they are in agreement with you. I'd like to see more of this from you, except next time, turn it up a notch or twelve.  

So why am I writing you?  There is a unique opportunity for you assist in championing the cause for BITCOIN.  You have a good sense of what's right and what's wrong, and you have a humorous meld of eloquence in your delivery.  I don't have to necessarily say it, but you're good at what you do.  However, in my opinion, you're missing the mark on where the systemic problems really lie.  Sure politicians, and corporations collude to extract every bit of resource & money out of the wold populace; however, you've missed the fundamental question.  "Where does they money come from?" 

You may know that the world operates on a debt-based monetary system, with the US dollar used as the reserve currency.  Imagine a couple of seedy characters in a dark basement of the Federal Reserve Bank, printing money at will.  Although, it's not in a dark basement, it's a huge marble & granite edifice, and the printing are merely keystrokes on a computer.  The characters are the large banks.  They create the monetary bubble, they profit from it, then they burst the bubble, and they profit from it, while consolidating the wealth & assets in their coffers. A few decades of this, they have a destroyed monetary system with endless bubbles, dollar devaluation, corporate bailouts, government corruption.  It's all about the money.

apathy doesn't come from us, the people.  The apathy comes from the politicians, they are apathetic to our needs, they're only interested in servicing the needs of corporations. ~ Russell Brand

The system of banking & government largesse can only exist inside this debt-based currency system.  Don't forget fractional reserve banking, and financial derivatives market, in which there are $1.2 Quadrillion dollars worth.  The only way this system can sustain itself, is to increase the debt, which increases the money flowing into the banks & corporations.  Not money flowing into corporations from valid product sales & services, but through the stock market.  Blowing up financial bubble after financial bubble.  Every bubble that bursts consolidates wealth more. The bubbles are fueled by the FED.  

Back to bitcoin.  If you don't know what it is, I'd be happy to be your personal bitcoin consultant.  Bitcoin is a digital currency that is decentralized, and not controllable by any central government, or organization.  It's a payment system and money rolled into one.  It can't be inflated into oblivion, it can cross boarders easily, and can be used globally.  It's gold 2.0, it's the kryptonite of the banking system and errant governments.  And when the shit hits the fan (like Cyprus), and they come looking for turnips to squeeze, they'll be out of luck.  It's truly the people's currency.  It's the honey badger of money.

Here's what I ask of you:

  1. If you don't know about bitcoin, learn about it (the Consultancy offer still stands, you can contact me on this site)
  2. If you don't own bitcoin, buy some.
  3. Promote promote promote bitcoin, it's the catalyst for change.
  4. Use bitcoin, sell your comedy specials for bitcoin, convince your colleagues to use bitcoin.
  5. Promote it some more, help make it a cause.

I say when there is a genuine alternative, a genuine option, then vote for that.  ~ Russell Brand

Here is your genuine alternative, and you don't have to wait until November 5th to vote for it.  You spoke with great certainty of the revolution that is coming.  As a non-violent, and peaceful person, the notion of a revolution tends to make me envision the abhorrent violence that usually is associated with revolution.  The information revolution is well on it's way, and now it's time to create a peaceful bitcoin revolution, and vote with our bitcoins!  I'm going to leave you with a quote that is not yours; however, it drives the point home on how much work is left to be done.

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.  ~ Upton Sinclair

Best Regards,



- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Fri, 10/25/2013 - 20:55 | 4091956 wisehiney
wisehiney's picture

Whatever, wasted words.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:11 | 4091990 Boris Alatovkrap
Boris Alatovkrap's picture

<-- Monkey on high dose amphetamine

<-- Crude little british celebrity pawn

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:21 | 4092025 SafelyGraze
SafelyGraze's picture

an open letter to tptb:

please don't crush the bit coin until after we have moved our 401k into the bit coin

thank you for your consideration

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:27 | 4092178 NoDebt
NoDebt's picture

These guys should get together on the flight deck at Bellevue and have coffee or something.  The bitcoiner talking to the train-spotting brit.  Freaking fantastic.

I'm sorry, but my open-mindedness has limits, apparently.  I would not have guessed that to be the case, but, apparently, that's how I roll.

Go sell crazy somewhere else.  I'm already full-up here.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 00:31 | 4092365 CrazyCooter
CrazyCooter's picture

That interview was crazy. Old guy antangonizing young guy, nothing solved. I stopped watching after a while. The world is fucked up, deal with it. Think it wasn't fucked up 2000 years ago in Rome? Pick a "civilization" and study it.

Look folks, the only thing that makes us special is oil. You want change? Live another 50 years, you will get your "change".

Maybe Hunter S. Thompson had it right ...



P.S. I was late to this thread because I really thought this was a GEICO/Buffet/Caveman humor dig based on the cover summary ... OOPS!

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 02:05 | 4092483 lineskis
lineskis's picture

Thank you Jack Russell Brand Sparrow! :)

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:10 | 4092629 GetZeeGold
GetZeeGold's picture



Maybe Hunter S. Thompson had it right ...


It finally got weird enough for he ate the bullet. In the end Hunter was not Fightclub material.


He would have made one hell of an ACA troll had he decided to stick it out however. I guess we'll never know.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:36 | 4092656 Obese-Redneck
Obese-Redneck's picture

But you gotta love how ZH hijacks a brilliant interview and plays it into the Ayn Rand stinky snapper crowd as so much nonsense.  

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:42 | 4092712 Keyser
Keyser's picture

You know your culture and society are doomed when you turn to a drug-addled celebrity like Russel Brand for advice. 

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:34 | 4092803 Seer
Seer's picture

At least he's not taking tax dollars in order to achieve the same level of "competance," unlike folks who MAKE the laws that control us...

To be fair, he's been drug rehab'd, no?  So too was George W Bush.  And this I am thankful for.  But, as far as I know, the former speaker of societal restructuring has YET to do nation-building, while the later has.

Sometimes talk IS better than action...

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 10:22 | 4093027 JPM Hater001
JPM Hater001's picture

Despite the fact his solution goes in the completely opposite direction he got one thing right...the current system is broke and a sham.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 11:17 | 4093123 chumbawamba
chumbawamba's picture

Perhaps I missed the memo explaining what a worthless tramp this Russell Brand guy is, but I found him to be articulate, compelling, and absolutely right on target.  This man is brilliant.  Shame on all of you for your ill will towards him.

God bless this man.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 11:32 | 4093163 roadhazard
roadhazard's picture

It's like Mad Magazine around here. Nothing is sacred. I laff a lot at the bitches.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 12:18 | 4093248 fonestar
fonestar's picture

Basically, it sounds like Brand is arguing for the dissolution of one collectivist, centralist system for his new collectivist, centralist system that promises "wealth-redistribution".

At least he got the not voting part right.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 13:48 | 4093489 Reptil
Reptil's picture

New World Order?
Individualism for the "good men" at the very top, collectivism for the rest of us?
... just asking..

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 16:25 | 4093798 I am more equal...
I am more equal than others's picture




To me he looks a bit like Charles Manson.  The wild eyes.  The long hair.  He's singing Helter Skelter. 

His drug use was caused by his Social Class?  No choice in the matter I assume. 

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 16:23 | 4093797 sadmamapatriot
sadmamapatriot's picture


We have a winner!

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 16:50 | 4093843 Jaspergers
Jaspergers's picture

+1, thanks! I generally like Brand but his solutions need some work. Until he finds the root of the ailment he won't be able to see the cure. 

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 21:54 | 4094254 Lord Koos
Lord Koos's picture

He's not saying he's offering solutions, he's just saying publicly what many people still don't realize -- shit is FUBAR and it's not going to get better as long as the current crowd is in control.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:55 | 4092831 GMadScientist
GMadScientist's picture

If the only complaint you can muster is an ad-hoc personal attack, he must be doing okay.

I prefer to think of it as being so fucked up, even Russell Brand gets it.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:27 | 4092892 philipat
philipat's picture

Paxman is a total dickhead so I don't have much sympathy'

Brand's dick is in his brain after screwing Katie Perry. Briefly, and getting a nice divorce settlement.

He seems naive and clueless. He is right about the Fascist Government/Corporate complex problem but seems clueless as to solutions. Crony capitalism, not free market capitalism is the problem. Taxing the shit out of Corporations, however, doesn't really help. They will just move overseas and pay even less tax in The US. In which case, there will be even less jobs in The US.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:36 | 4092920 Seer
Seer's picture

Yeah, someone needs to tap him on the shoulder and point out that it's govt that is the enabler of big corporations: a quick read of Smedly Butler's War Is A Racket might be a good intro.

Regarding what is or isn't the "problem," well, I disagree with your commentary there.  Sure, "free market" sounds good, and I'm pretty sure that it would be better than "crony capitalism," but I don't see it as addressing the problem of growth.  If it, "free market," is also predicated on perpetual growth on a finite planet then it too is destined to fail (the promise to deliver eventually meets up with the inability to deliver, which gets masked by all sorts of deceptions until it's no longer possible to hide the realities- pretty much how the "old" "free market" matured into the "crony capitalism" one).

Yup, I'll get a slew of red arrows, and nary a debate on HOW we could get the "free market" to operate without growth (as Nature's Capital continues to decline).

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 11:24 | 4093136 chumbawamba
chumbawamba's picture

Jeez, what the hell do you people want?  A 1,200 page treatise on a new social structure that the world can evolve into over the next 100 years?  This man rightly pointed out the problem exactly and succinctly.  When the interviewer douche pressed him for solutions, he made it quite clear that he wasn't there to solve problems and even if he could he wasn't going to be able to do so by answering the questions of a pompous bearded asshole.  You guys are expecting far too much from someone who at least had the balls to tell the truth in a venue that got far ranging attention.  At any rate, this interview will do far more to wake people up than all the worthless comments being spewed here in reaction to it.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 10/27/2013 - 04:40 | 4094652 lewy14
lewy14's picture

I don't expect him to have solutions.

I fault him for not having even the tiniest bit of intuition about what could possibly go wrong.

The nature, and the dangers, of any concentration of power potent enough actually effect that redistribution of wealth.

Any inkling who, prey tell (sic), is going to get China/India/Russia et al to stop greenhouse gas emissions. Who - and which army?

All mouth, no reflection. 

And N.B. - reflection != detailed plans. That's a red herring, a misdirection.

Brand has charismatic energy and his heart is in the right place.

Energetic, charismatic people with their heart in the right place will be the death of us. The final judo flip into pure, perpetual techno-oligarchy.

Surely you must see this.

Sun, 10/27/2013 - 14:41 | 4095530 Paveway IV
Paveway IV's picture

Brand is at least going down the right path. 

If he keeps going, he'll get to the circular trap where he sees that psychopaths have corrupted the change mechanisms - especially the illusion of voting - and the system is so infected that the replacements are merely going to be other psychopaths. The trap is confining your solutions to their thouroughly corrput change processes because that's the rules.

Getting to that point isn't much of an accomplishment - it's an inevitability of a critical thought process. I'm interested in where he (or anyone else) goes after that.

Mon, 10/28/2013 - 11:11 | 4097571 RockyRacoon
RockyRacoon's picture

Chumba, if Brand had actually offered real solutions it would have taken many hours of video to convey.  Then  the complaint from the ZH sloth-crowd would have been that the interview was "too long" and that the information could have been conveyed in "one simple sentence" or some such tripe.   No sound-bite will fix this situation but the US citizenry has been trained to expect one.  There's no pleasing the masses.  Anyone who looks like Brand will have detractors.   The messenger overpowers the message in too many instances.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 09:43 | 4104460 blacksheep
blacksheep's picture

The first step to fixing a problem is realizing there is a problem. Russell is way ahead of the game. Most people don't even recognize the giant mess we are in.

I don't agree with his ideas about how he wants to fix it, but I think that is because he has not correctly identified the root of the problem. Any large power structure will be co-opted at the top and used to benefit a few. Everything needs to be decentralized with lots of competition.

To address Michael's letter, Bitcoin is not the answer; having multiple competing currencies is what is needed. Your letter comes across like you are selling something, which you are. That is not going to convince people. Yes, bitcoin is the most promising free market currency right now, but the goal shouldn't be to get everyone to use bitcoin, it should be to bring about competing currencies. If bitcoin is looked on as some miracle to save us, when it grows large enough, they will just co-opt it. Bitcoin itself may be decentralized in its structure, but if everyone uses it, it becomes a centralized currency. We need multiple, unrelated, competing currencies.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 12:52 | 4093341 11b40
11b40's picture

Might I suggest getting a little more educated on Mr. Brand before laying on criticism.

Disagree with him, or his methods,...or fail to uderstand him, but don't make the mistake of assuming he hasn't given deep and serious thought to the subjects he embraces.

Furthermore, he is causing large numbers of other people to look upon today's events form a different perspective, while taking on the establishment with gusto.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 13:17 | 4093412 stacking12321
stacking12321's picture

the free market is absolutely, positively, NOT predicated on perpetual growth, please get this point clear.

the free market is merely the freedom to exchange goods and services without state violence / coercion.


but I don't see it as addressing the problem of growth.

why should it? that's not its function. it also doesn't adress the problems of poverty, illiteracy, and chocolate that melts in your hands, not in your mouth.



Sun, 10/27/2013 - 06:49 | 4092753 Black Swan 9
Black Swan 9's picture

There were rumors at the time of his death that he was working on a piece about WTC7.

I never accept "suicides" (or small plane deaths) at face value anymore, too many that have connections (info) to TPTB who want them to just shut up.

Edit: re Hunter S. Thompson

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 05:18 | 4092594 bentaxle
bentaxle's picture

I watched the whole thing at the time of the broadcast. I was tempted to switch off as, listening to his "solutions" it's clear they are mainly wrong. Because he does not appreciate the problems are much, much more fundamental.

His understanding is too vague, and hence his arguments were rambling rather than coherent. As you can see from the vid there is a unhealthy addiction to welfare related ideas.

But at least he wants to question things. The sheeple have so far displayed that they aren't prepared to get to that stage. Being five years beyond 2008 and we're still ruled by tptb, against a background of hideous economic priorities, with not much in the way of opposition from the sheeple is truly shocking. 

The disappointing thing about Brand is he's someone who has the ability to connect with the sheeple on a scale far beyond my ability to do so, but armed with that, his call for "revolution," still gets nowhere?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:38 | 4092813 Seer
Seer's picture

WOW!  I missed that it was 2008 that marked the down-turn of civilization (the start of control by TPTB)!

Do people demand a really just system? Well, we'll arrange it so that they'll be satisfied with one that's a little less unjust ... They want a revolution, and we'll give them reforms -- lots of reforms; we'll drown them in reforms. Or rather, we'll drown them in promises of reforms, because we'll never give them real ones either!!

- DARIO FO, Accidental Death of an Anarchist

As to the history of the Revolution, my ideas may be peculiar, perhaps singular. What do We Mean by the Revolution? The War? That was no part of the Revolution. It was only an Effect and Consequence of it. The Revolution was in the minds of the People...

- John Adams

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 10:23 | 4093029 bentaxle
bentaxle's picture

That's because 2008 wasn't the "start" and I never said it was. Depending on your point of view it was more like 1913 and the start of The Fed and Income taxes? Maybe you want to take it back to 1776 and argue that was the high point? Shortly after which human beings reverted to mean and started to pervert civilization all over again? WHat do you know?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:04 | 4092847 GMadScientist
GMadScientist's picture

I didn't hear Russell Brand say people shouldn't have to work, so maybe it was the desire for fairness and economic opportunity that bothers you? Funny that we listen to the same thing and you hear "welfare related ideas" and I hear a plea for a reasonable chance of class mobility.


Sat, 10/26/2013 - 10:26 | 4093035 bentaxle
bentaxle's picture

Hmm, bothers me? Whatever.

"Reasonable chance of class mobility????" Oh boy an idealist. Yuh think a meritocracy is going to produce your utopian wet dream?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 18:08 | 4093970 GMadScientist
GMadScientist's picture

Good luck finding an economic system that can get away with not respecting that tenet without devolving into warfare.


Sat, 10/26/2013 - 19:31 | 4094067 bentaxle
bentaxle's picture

One'll see.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 11:58 | 4093216 Reptil
Reptil's picture

This (Thom Yorke and 3D (band member Massive Attack interview during the London "occupy" movement) received NO exposure in the media whatsoever.


Perhaps because mr. Brand doesn't bring any viable solutions, and will make many sheeple go and think "gee, let's keep with the present system, we all gotta make money".
To me, personally, the Russell Brand interview looked staged, the emotions, sentences, even the jokes were rehearsed, it feels like a commercial against revolution. Don't really care about this smooth talking millionaire anyway. He likes the limelight, is an actor. It is the BBC, after all.... a bunch of sophisticated manipulators.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 05:40 | 4092607 Seer
Seer's picture


Brand, like many others identifying the "wrongs" gets it mostly right: voting doesn't do anything but enable the status quo; a revolution WILL happen*.   It's the suggested "corrective" parts that always fail... and they especially fail when they don't take into account the PHYSICAL world, which you clearly point out via the reference to "oil."

* And sadly, I'm afraid, we'll have not understood what the real source of the problems were and we'll embark on another round of aiming ourselves over the edge of the cliff.

Anyway, I liked the energy (though that's using up a lot of energy!).  I think that Brand needs (more?) exposure to Carlin.

Sun, 10/27/2013 - 10:19 | 4094976 Black Swan 9
Black Swan 9's picture

I'm pretty sure he's been exposed to Carlin, and even to the deeper and also dead Bill Hicks..

"Is Utopian Revolution Possible?"

Russell Brand on revolution: “We no longer have the luxury of tradition”

"But before we change the world, we need to change the way we think."

By Russell Brand

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:01 | 4092671 bunnyswanson
bunnyswanson's picture

Reversing the trend will be impossible.  There are no New Worlds to discover. escape to.  They are killing all of the heroes.

Catalyst:  Heart of the Matter (ABC video on saturated fat, high cholesterol and the decades long lie)

But this will be the wake up call of all - The lie that made us all stop eating real butter in front of others. 

Only explanation would be if a comet was going to fly by earth and kill us all, and they at the top know it and have thrown all caution to the wind.

Elimination of an entire class of people is underway.  We can prevent that and I suggest we try.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:51 | 4092826 Seer
Seer's picture

"Elimination of an entire class of people is underway. "

Should we do this by way of dropping the income of the 750 million folks in India who live on $0.50/day, to, say, $0.25/day?

Where the fuck is the part about saving the turtles?  Geez, how can you mention how to save the world by reverting to "real butter" without also pleading to "save the turtles?"

I mean nothing bad to turtles, just that they're as pertinent as "real butter" is, and, well, I agree that "real butter" is better*, but I also see these things as being quite distant from the core of the problem (well, in this context, which completely misses its own commentary)- it's a "growth" issue.  The "entire class of people" that I suspect you're referring to is the "Middle Class?"  If so, then ask yourself what if that "class" was the RESULT of excess growth (excess pull from future needs).  Tossing out the premise that the "Middle Class" (again, I'm assuming that's what you are referring to, but please correct me if I'm wrong) is somehow a more natural condition, that it deserves pulling more growth from the future in order to "survive," well... do you see the circularity here?

* Of course, there's the complication of trying to keep "real butter" being "butter" if you're in a tropical zone, which requires refrigeration... NOTE: my wife grew up in the Philippines, old-school, where and when such things weren't in any way a reality (even fucking toilet paper!).  So, spare me about the "poor suffering" masses who struggle to consume "real butter"...

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:07 | 4092855 GMadScientist
GMadScientist's picture

If you ain't suckling the udder, t'ain't real butter.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 22:03 | 4094269 Lord Koos
Lord Koos's picture

Perhaps you need to revisit the stats regarding income inequality.  It has less to do with growth and more to do with terminally greedy elites.  

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:06 | 4092852 GMadScientist
GMadScientist's picture

Allow me to pack your purple robe and Nikes.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 11:35 | 4093170 Nehweh Gahnin
Nehweh Gahnin's picture

We don't need a comet to explain their behavior.  We just need 7 billion people in a world that will, very shortly, only be capable of sustaining 1 billion people.  And that, only if we don't completely screw up the biosphere with the implosion of 407 nuclear reactors going offline.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 01:31 | 4092438 All Risk No Reward
All Risk No Reward's picture

Vote, first and foremost, with you debt (fraudulent based money) MONEY.

Pay cash (don't let the bastards get their 2-3% off credit card purchases), buy small and buy local.

Avoid anything and everything BIG.  If you must shop BIG, wait to minimize your expenditure.

When you go to the polls, vote against whomever the establishment puts forth.

All establishment voters are arrogant useful idiots that think everyone else is "wasting their vote" when the truth is they are the ones wasting their vote and their arrogance combined with ignorance is huge part of the problem.

Talk to people and explain the fraud.  Most will cherish their ignorance - that's on them now.

When it blows, they will know the deal or work very hard at their denial program.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 02:23 | 4092498 Theosebes Goodfellow
Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

I must be doing something right. Everyone I vote for doesn't get elected. So what exactly is Russell Brand's claim to fame short of having spent some time banging Katy Perry? And why does the word "twit" come to mind whenever I hear his name?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 03:21 | 4092523 George the baby...
George the baby crusher's picture

Haters gonna hate! Is it his hair? Maybe his youth? And why does the word "asshole" come to mind when I read idiot comments like yours from old people!

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:12 | 4092864 GMadScientist
GMadScientist's picture

Nah, it's the speaking like he's done one too many rails all the time and the constant tendency to revert to childish behavior to put other en garde. He's like a teenage boy trying to get together with a chick that isn't interested and too infatuated to realize that all that leg-humping is downright unseemly in public.

You're just mad your entire generation can't seem to front one person with coherence and an idea worth expressing.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:44 | 4092934 jwoop66
jwoop66's picture

Your posts lead me to believe you took the programming well.   You are a textbook subject.  Good boy/girl.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 18:11 | 4093973 GMadScientist
GMadScientist's picture

And yours lead to me to infer you've never been capable of cracking a textbook.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 19:45 | 4094086 All Risk No Reward
All Risk No Reward's picture

GM, WHOSE foundation lobbied for that textbook and WHOSE money promoted that textbook?

What are the interests of that special interest group?

Might I recommend a free version of The Underground History of American Education by John Taylor Gatto?

You can search Youtube for his interviews and lectures and you can search for his podcasts.

The Ultimate History Lesson is stellar

Folks, every generation has a few incredibly insightfull people, who are mostly ignored by the masses, and a whole lot of people in the cult of the supra-national banking cartel financed "establishment" walking around in a predetermined consensus trance.

Pitting generations against one another is a fool's errand unless one is truly an evil arch criminal who benefits from this.

Russell Brand is right to speak out about injustice.  I applaud him for that.  After all, how many other high profile people do that?  Almost none.  They cower in fear.

However, he's a bit naive about his potential solutions.  A big government to implement his ideas will have been captured by the supra-national banking cartel faster than Brand can be delisted.  The fact that he doesn't understand this is a testament to him still being in a consensus trance.

The #1 problem is WHO defines money and WHO gets to control its quantity and flow within society.  WHOEVER that is will always rule over everyone else.


Return the money power to an educated and active populace or else the money power will eventually enslave it UNDER ANY SYSTEM OF ANYONE'S CHOICE.

The big problem is the vast majority of people have no idea they are schooled lemmings in the important issues and fiercely defend their captor's greatest weapon - the programming that directs the very actions of the vast majority of people in America.

That's why I've decided to focus on bracing for impact above any other effort.

Debt Money Tyranny

Weapons of Mass Debt

US GDP Organic Trend Analysis

The trend has already broken for the worse - like it did in Q4 2007:

We'll be lucky if we get 3 quarters worth of relative stability before the next *crack up boom*.



Sun, 10/27/2013 - 10:16 | 4094973 GMadScientist
GMadScientist's picture

You know they have books at the library that nobody lobbied for but the patrons, right? Perhaps not, as you can't be bothered to enter such a den of socialist utopianism and common good as that just to obtain knowledge. Then you might be responsible for cogitating an informed opinion and who knows what hilarity might ensue thereafter.



Sun, 10/27/2013 - 10:36 | 4095001 jwoop66
jwoop66's picture

I just know I don't blindly believe what they put in the textbook.  

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:50 | 4092946 George the baby...
George the baby crusher's picture

And your generation has done nothing but hang around economic blogs getting fat on your bucket of chicken wings, flatulating, pretending you understand the slightest of what's going on in the real world, hoarding canned food and ammo and bitching about the sheeples ignorance.  What the fuck were you doing at his age fucktard?  You were out happily ignorant destroying the future of the unborn youth.  The anger that the youth feel is not just directed to the 1%, they are just as anger at your generation for it's complacency. You old cunts are just as guilty!

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 13:01 | 4093367 Theosebes Goodfellow
Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

Wow George, from your name "the baby crusher" to your trans-generational rant one can only assume you have some unresolved anger-management issues.

For the record, at Brand's age I was working full-time as a mechanical engineer whilst caring for a small child on my own. BTW, said child graduated from college two years ago summa cum laude with a degree in International Relations. So again it appears I've done a few things right. Also, not all youth are angry. A lot of them have been able to grow up quite content.

If anyone is actually "hoarding canned food and ammo", then they can't necessarily be described as "pretending you understand the slightest of what's going on in the real world". Anyone who is or has created a larder has actually demonstrated that they indeed do have a very good understanding of what's going on in "the real world". 

And lastly, don't knock old cunts until you've tried some. Some of us prefer them.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 14:09 | 4093545 Chewybunny
Chewybunny's picture

There's always an exception, or a few. But over-all the baby boomer generation (as a whole) has built it's wealth on the backs of it's children and children's children. Where you guys get to retire comfortably at 65, we will most likely retire at 73. Where you will take more out of the system than you put in, we will be putting in tons more than we ever will see returned. The anger that the youth have towards the baby boomers is wholly justified. All I wish is for this generation to collectively say "Fuckit, I ain't gonna pay for grandpa's 50,000 life-surgery, let the fucker die already."

Sun, 10/27/2013 - 02:15 | 4094573 Theosebes Goodfellow
Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

Your input seems to be considerate so you deserve consideration in return. You are in error in some of your observations. To wit:

1.) I'm not sure how you envision boomers "building their wealth on the backs of their children". If you are talking about the fact that the US government has saddled taxpayers with an astronomic amount of debt, remember this: Barack Hussein Obama was elected by an overwhelming amount of young voters. He has quadrupled the government debt in just five years.

2.) The act of "retiring" is not one of age, it is one of having sufficient income and/or wealth to cover one's debts or living expenses enough to not have to "work" to sustain a certain level of lifestyle. What that looks like for each person varies based on what they perceive as an adequate lifestyle. Achieving that point where having to "work" is optional is predicated on each individual's ability to make sound financial decision, invest wisely and making the requisite sacrifices to be able to achieve said levels.

3.) Technically speaking, you and your generation have no say in whether Grandpa gets a life-prolonging surgery or not. At least not yet. I will though point out that the PPACA, (aka Obamacare), does if allowed to become fully active. Remember everybody poo-pooing Sarah Palin when she said Obamacare would lead to death panels? Well, it just so happens that as it turns out, she was right.

4.) Just because the government you grew up with has always been there, do not assume that it always will be. The massive creation of debt, the illegal and immoral machinations in all of the markets will have consequences. This whole three-ring, cannibal-making desecration of the US and world economy circus will last as long as the US petro-dollar does. Remember this, the US dollar will function...., until it doesn't. When that moment comes, (and that moment is now inevitable), you won't have to worry about Grandpa's surgery, or anything else denominated in US Dollars. (Think about what that means and will look like.)

5.) whether the "anger that the youth have towards the baby boomers is wholly justified" or not is really irrelevant. It just doesn't matter. That on its own aught to piss you all off, but that too is... irrelevant. I'm not saying this to be mean or antagonistic. I'm saying it so that you can get over your fine pissed-off self and begin to plan for what you are going to do to make your life function once the US dollar doesn't. Let me put this simply.

Survival of any given organism is predicated on the ability of said organism to adapt to any given environment. The better it is skilled to adapt to a wider array of environments the better are its chances of surviving. Cowboy up.


Sun, 10/27/2013 - 17:42 | 4095896 Chewybunny
Chewybunny's picture

I envision boomers voting time and time again for the same crooked politicians that have spoon fed them the promise of a better tomorrow. The liberal ones that voted in greater welfare coverage, the conservative ones that blindly support a massive build up of our military and the spending spree. As for the young people: They were raised in the oppulance of the 80s and 90s, spoon fed entertainment by parents that would rather sit at the corporate office 16 hours a day than actually spend 15 minutes with their child. They were also raised during the Bush years, which saw war, rise in social conservatism, etc. A lot of that, from what I witnessed, heard, and discussed with friends had to do with social issues. In my opinion, from everything I have heard my friends on either side say, the youth overwhelmingly voted for Obama as a giant "Fuck you" to the Bush years, and the social-conservative Republicans.


I agree with you in the goals of retiring. But many people forsook that with the promise that once you hit 65, the government will take care of you. What I am constantly pissed off about is that my fellow generation believes that somehow or other this group of people are so vulnerable that it is utter taboo to suggest any kind of criticism. That's what makes me depressed.


As for your 5th statement. I am doing my best to survive in this world. I look at the friends I grew up with in Highschool, and college, and I am saddened that they aren't. Many have given up. And these aren't the losers, the druggies, the dumbasses. I hung out with the Dungeon and Dragon nerds. These are the ones that went to college to get degrees in Bio-Chemistry, to walk away with huge debt, and no demand in their chosen fields. Also, promises made to them by the previous generation. Saying that, you're pretty much condemning an entire generation (potentially 2 or 3), while you've, presumably, enjoyed the last 40+ years of government growth, and general opulence.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:35 | 4092654 Ourrulersknowbest
Ourrulersknowbest's picture

All risk, I agree with you absolutely.the time to explain to those who question your sanity has passed.those who can see the coming clusterfuck
have choices to make.the longer the stalling of the clusterfuck continues,the more prepared you can be.if (IF) the shit does not hit the fan then these preparations are not in vain.if TSHTF then you may be better positioned than the herd.
We might be wrong,but that's a chance I am willing to the doubters I have nothing to say .you are all entitled to your opinion.i am no longer in the business of looking like a tin foil hat mad fucker.i keep my cards close.
Be prepared and if the time comes deal with it.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:05 | 4092850 Seer
Seer's picture

Folks with dog avatars seem to be pretty sane :-)

It's still OK to mention things to others, but, yes, jumping up and down and hollering for "change" just doesn't make sense.

"We might be wrong,but that's a chance I am willing to take."

I view things more as a life-style change.  It's the life I wish to live.  Doing something because one feels it's in opposition to or being forced by something else always leaves the sense that there's still a taste for that which one is "getting away from."  I decided to "get to," and I've found that this make all the difference in the world as to instilling a sense of peace of mind: there's NO way that one can be 100% prepared for the future- it's all about risk, what it takes to get another day; and, really, what's another day if one is using it to run (and the same the day after, and the day after- that ending up being one's life)? it's like those tail-gating motherfuckers out there, you see them riding on everyone's ass- imagine what it's like to live life like that? (it's NOT the sign of a person with a peace of mind)  But, yeah, even my "getting to" isn't roses- life ain't easy (well, compated to what most of the world lives like I'd have to say that mine is): I spend plenty of time cursing mechanical shit and animals, but it's my sense of impatience with myself, a feeling that time is running out (need to work more on this; fortunately I've got a most wonderful partner/wife who keeps it all grounded- and every time I look at her I KNOW why life is good: I wouldn't be so fortunate had I not embarked on my change of life-style).

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 13:46 | 4093488 Quus Ant
Quus Ant's picture

I respectfully disagree. 

What good does withholding your money from the system do when they can print all they need? 

The system doesn't need you. 

That is why (not to get all biblical) Jesus said, "pay unto Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what is God's."

Money is their game.  They own it.  They invented it.  They put their faces on it. 

Perhaps there is a different "currency" we could be working with?  And I don't mean gold.

Aww, hell, I AM going to get all biblical.  I'm also reminded when Israel asked for a king because all the nations around

them had kings.  God said only he was king- and an earthly king would be like a millstone around their necks (paraphrase).  Voting seems to

me like sanctioning an eathly king.  No thanks.  We answer to a higher power- whether theist, deist or atheist.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:39 | 4092201 flacon
flacon's picture


Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:58 | 4092231 aldousd
aldousd's picture

Open letter from the police: "Every move you make... Every step you take... I'll be watching you"

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 01:14 | 4092421 flacon
flacon's picture


(not you, but the police) 

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 02:16 | 4092472 Ham-bone
Ham-bone's picture

to all you lazy apathetic closet ZH'ers...Brand has done more to advocate for a better world in this single clip than any of us, this site, or any Faber or Schiff could in a lifetime.  Russell may not exactly have the cause of what ails us or the solution to our troubles...but he's willing to say no more.  Fuck this ridiculous joke that democracy has become.  Fuck this serfdom we are slipping ever deeper into.  Lies from our politicians parrotted by the MSM written by their corporate handlers.  Wars, death, and theft are not the representative government the majority wants.

Change and only real change will do...don't disparage a man with the means to light a fuse.  A coalition for change must be built and it will not all be of like minded ultimate causes or solutions people...from the libertarian to socialst but all must agree the current system has become toxic and evil...and some means to truly discuss genuinely how to best serve the people needs be redefined...the more you disparage those with balls to speak up the more you promote the status quo.


Sat, 10/26/2013 - 02:54 | 4092505 Ham-bone
Ham-bone's picture

or maybe the only change some of you want is for the current system to do it's evil so you can profit from your PM's move you among the that the change you want?  Why did you buy PM's???  Insurance you hoped you wouldn't need or do you now advocate for "burning your house down so you can collect the claim" and doing nothing to avoid this outcome (perhaps even advocating for it???). 

Are you now part of the problem hoping for your PM's to make you rich for doing nothing but speculating those in power would do the worst for the most???  Is your self interest in perpetuating the evil so long as you ultimately believe you will be served by it???

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:38 | 4092809 Oldwood
Oldwood's picture

Isn't that what  "investing" is all about? Maybe not all hoping for disaster but always looking at winning at some other person's loss. Investing used to be about investing in yourself. Education and skills that would make your world a better place. Now it's simply betting everyone is is dumber than yourself. And we wonder why so many have such a low opinion of others. Be it sheeple or muppets or any other derogatory name, society has a pretty low opinion of itself and our actions highlight that pretty well.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 05:01 | 4092576 Gumbum
Gumbum's picture

Couldn't agree more. Russell Brand may not have the intellectual might of others (allthough he seems fairly well-spoken to me). But he's reaching people that no doomsday prepper could evver dream of reaching. Why on earth would you not support that?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:59 | 4092668 foxenburg
foxenburg's picture

He's not at all well spoken but is certainly articulate. He's also bright.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:30 | 4092789 thatthingcanfly
thatthingcanfly's picture

He lost me when he started shilling for the global warming nuts and railing about how evil it is that a corporation might turn a profit.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:16 | 4092873 Gumbum
Gumbum's picture

I still have trouble understanding how anyone can fall for the Koch brother sponsered rightwing looney story about global warming not being real.

But I totally get the psychology behind it. We've been told that if we work hard we can have success. Success in our culture is measured by our consumption. The more successful we are the bigger our house, car etc. Now we are being told that that consumption is driving us toward collective genocide. You are being told to consume less and it provokes you.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 16:55 | 4093852 thatthingcanfly
thatthingcanfly's picture

Dude, there is no human-caused global climate change. The assertion is preposterous on its own terms. Learn a bit about geology; turn off the Al Gore movies.

Nigel Farage covered this well a couple months back, didn't he?

And, it's "sponsored."

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 05:53 | 4092617 Seer
Seer's picture

Um... I've spoken out plenty.  That I have not been granted some "wide" audience is not the measure of effort.

I have "notches on my belt" of my successes in getting people to divest of this system.  I have started farming, producing food (Food, Shelter and Water- being a talking-head does none of this).  I believe, as I learned in the military (one of the very few things I got out of my stint), that it is best to "set the example."  Rather than telling people what they should do I encourage people to ask of themselves what they should do, to seek out their own solutions (and if my examples are useful then good).

"Wars, death, and theft are not the representative government the majority wants."

Of fucking course not!  But the "majority" is complicit in them nonetheless:

"May we look upon our treasures, and the furniture of our houses, and the garments in which we array ourselves, and try whether the seeds of war have nourishment in these our possessions, or not."

- John Woolman, mid-1700s American Quaker & an early American anti-slavery activist. In his 1770 essay, A Plea for the Poor

"Change and only real change will do...don't disparage a man with the means to light a fuse."

And if that fuse is connected to a bomb and you're standing right next to it?

Change for change sake is no more than the promotion of the political campaign BS of "change you can believe in."  No, quit looking for people to light fuses and start being someone who ENGAGES in DOING him/her self.

The Bolsheviks made change happen.  The people got their "revolution."  They created a "solution" without really knowing what the problem was...

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:14 | 4092683 Obese-Redneck
Obese-Redneck's picture

The problem with 75% of ZHers and therefore 30% of the US population is that they dont get the issue of NOW.  Romantic Libertarian notions are not going to bring us back to 1830 where you and I wear buckskins and rendezvous with Dan Haggerty and occaisonally hook up with either Dolly Parton or Cher, take yer pick.  Try the present.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:56 | 4092727 shovelhead
shovelhead's picture

98% of internet statistics are made up 72% of the time.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:08 | 4092741 Gene Parmesan
Gene Parmesan's picture

What do you suggest then, socialism, as Brand does? Fuck you and your tyrants.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:28 | 4092894 Seer
Seer's picture

Well, it appears that you're suffering red arrows just as I...

I don't pretend to KNOW what ZHers do or don't get.  All I know is that many here tend to, and it's fairly common throughout other groups, spend more time name-calling and flaring emotionally than in getting down to actual analytics.  But, this is supposed to be a site dedicated to "economics," and, well, economics is the "dismal science."

I've made it a point in my life to be attracted to folks who have made or are making signficant changes to their lives.  The ability to change in order to meet future demands is, well, isn't that what "good business" is all about?  Clinging on to some label of thought makes change difficult, not impossible, but most get too entrenched and vested against any change that they'll fight anything that would support/suggest change as necessary.  NOTE: I'm NOT talking about accepting any change as that which might be mandated by some social structure (key word being "mandated," as in "forced").

Cognative dissonance... lots of people seem to be able to comprehend the problems of perpetual growth as undertaken by "govt," but when the same concept is applied to the "private" sector a bunch of magical "freedom this and freedom that" stuff happens and all of a sudden it's not only entirely possible but it's THE way.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 13:51 | 4093497 Reptil
Reptil's picture

I think they're beyond shame. Totally batshit crazy.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:52 | 4092111 walküre
walküre's picture

Brand has been clean for 10 years according to this:

He's also pretty outspoken on how our culture deals with drugs and addiction

Americans should know best that the "war on drugs" is a turf war between American (CIA) interests and foreign drug producers over the distribution and consumption of drugs in the US and elsewhere in the world.

Uncle Sam has his cut via the "war on drugs". Don't be idiots to believe the government is interested in preventing drug abuse or stopping the flow of drugs into schools, backyards and night clubs. Way too much money at stake and best of all, tax free.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:56 | 4092116 Kreditanstalt
Kreditanstalt's picture

Brand?  NOT one to emulate...Suffers from ADHD, bipolar, drug use, probably latent homosexuality, and, perversely, a 12-month "marriage".

Worth $15m, so talking his book too.  And no sense of colour or clothing style.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 23:21 | 4092267 Boris Alatovkrap
Boris Alatovkrap's picture

You are to also include tourette syndrome in list of clothing item to wash.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 00:02 | 4092329 Freddie
Freddie's picture

Russell Brand = Illuminati Handler??

I saw some videos on rappers and celebs with the Illuminati.  I thought it was total BS. I watched a few of the videos and I am not so sure.  Loads of celebs that were couples or famous women with miscarriages. 

I thought the hand signs of the pyramid were BS too until I saw multiple pictures of Angela Merkel doing it. 

Here is Brand on InfoWars not long ago blasting the Syrian intervention BS and the lies of the MSM to his credit:

Kudos to Brand for blasting Lord Vader Brezenski's daughter.

Is Brand a now ex-Illuminatus now?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:49 | 4092720 shovelhead
shovelhead's picture

Holy Cow!

Lindsay Lohan must be running the show...

I think I saw she had 666 tattooed on her coochie.

Maybe Florence Henderson...She always looked a little shifty to me.

Wesson oil for cooking...Yeah right...Parties is more like it.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 05:01 | 4092575 Notarocketscientist
Notarocketscientist's picture

Why don't you call up Jamie Dimon since you seem to worship assholes - offer to lick his ass while giving him a reach around.

And while you are at it, go fuck yourself.


Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:01 | 4092596 Gumbum
Gumbum's picture

Here's a guy talking about the unsustainability of our system and you are talking about his clothing style?

Are you trying to make a funny or are you retarded?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 15:47 | 4093745 Kreditanstalt
Kreditanstalt's picture

The guy wants "equality", "fairness" and "social justice"...just like any socialist liberal.  Been there, done that...where's any mention of individual liberty???

Plus, he IS flakey...

Mon, 10/28/2013 - 14:14 | 4098354 RockyRacoon
RockyRacoon's picture

Since when were "equality", "fairness", and "social justice" not laudable goals?  It's the means to the ends that matter and I didn't hear that socialism was the route to take from Brand.   Simply using the terms themselves does not define the person's ideology.

Just about everyone wants "equality" in their ability to achieve their goals in life.

Do you know anyone who doesn't believe that "fairness" is desirable when it comes to human interaction?

How about a little "social justice" when it comes to interpreting and enforcing written law?

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:16 | 4092161 putaipan
putaipan's picture

mmm beer.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:00 | 4092624 Seer
Seer's picture

Yeah, "Uncle Sam" does get a cut, but it's more about being a conduit.  The REAL activity is with those that launder the money... (well, OK, I suppose that "Uncle Sam" is part of the money laundering, but it's acting according to its primary customers)

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 23:20 | 4092262 Element
Element's picture



<-- Monkey on high dose amphetamine

<-- Crude little british celebrity pawn

<-- All of the above


He talks about reality? him? Anyway, I'm glad you didn't call him a 'comedian', that would be wrong.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 04:58 | 4092574 Notarocketscientist
Notarocketscientist's picture

Fuck you and your arrows you fucking cunt.   What the fuck have you done lately to try to change this shit?   Oh right - you sit there behind your computer moaning and typing and fondling your gun which you will NEVER use because you are a COWARD

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:15 | 4092631 Balanced Integer
Balanced Integer's picture

Yeah, but're Brave. I can tell because you type in all-bold font. I bet you'd blow some fuckers away!

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:01 | 4092732 General Decline
General Decline's picture


Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:26 | 4092644 Bearwagon
Bearwagon's picture

Fondling your gun ... like ... "this is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for fighting, this is for fun!" Right?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:26 | 4092777 RafterManFMJ
RafterManFMJ's picture

I named mine Charlene.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:35 | 4092805 thatthingcanfly
thatthingcanfly's picture

If God had wanted you up there, he'd have miracled your ass up there!

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:28 | 4092784 Seer
Seer's picture

Good god!  I thought I'd had all that shit purged out of my head!  Now I've got to sign up for more sessions!

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:30 | 4092648 Nothing but the...
Nothing but the truth.'s picture

Boris - many times I have enjoyed your comments, but not this time. Russell Brand is what I call a leading light - he is against a failed system that needs to be changed. All of us on ZH daily bemoan the government , the banksters and the Fed for running a system that favors only the elite. That's exactly what Brand is doing yet some commenting here are sceptical of the man. Remember one thing : - when good men do or say nothing, evil will prevail. Russell Brand may be a lot of things you dont like , but he stands up against a rotten system - he is one of the " good " men.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:46 | 4092717 Keyser
Keyser's picture

Brand is an idiot. Nothing more, nothing less. Place your bets and take your chances, but if you hook your wagon to Brand's star, good luck with that. 


Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:04 | 4092737 Nothing but the...
Nothing but the truth.'s picture

In the context of his views in this specific interview , how is he an idiot ? Confine your response to his views on ' the system' - not his clothes , hairstyle or personal life.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:06 | 4092739 General Decline
General Decline's picture

Brand sounds like he has recently swallowed the red pill. He's on the floor of the Nebuchadnezzar throwing up and is about to pass. I was there once.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:17 | 4092012 rubiconsolutions
rubiconsolutions's picture

"Here is your genuine alternative, and you don't have to wait until November 5th to vote for it."

Shows how much the author of this diatribe knows. Brand isn't a US citizen and can't vote. Do some homework....or at least study civics a bit.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:30 | 4092186 Dr. No
Dr. No's picture

HAvent you heard, you dont need an ID to vote... Its unamerican to ask for an ID for voting.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:51 | 4092221 old naughty
old naughty's picture

And soon you don't need a birth certificate to be POTUS, according to Schwarzenegger.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:17 | 4092632 Balanced Integer
Balanced Integer's picture

I think the current "POTUS" beat Arnie to the punch. Hell, we already have one non-natural born citizen in the Oval Office. Might as well make it two-for-two, right?

(Yeah, fuck Shwarzie, too.)

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 01:44 | 4092459 drendebe10
drendebe10's picture

Didnt stop a kenyan born monkeyboy from stealing the white house

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:20 | 4092692 Obese-Redneck
Obese-Redneck's picture


NSA says what?


Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:07 | 4092627 Seer
Seer's picture

There's no voting in Britain?  I need to get out more...

NOTE: Although I am not taking sides with the author I believe that his general message of some currency detached from government/bank control holds universally, not just in the US; so... yeah, Brant's comments would appear to be supportable by logic.

NOTE II: I do NOT agree with the premise of Bit Coin as being any "solution" for the reason that it requires the underlying infrastructure controlled by TPTB (and most humans on the planet don't have access to electricity, let alone computing devices).  I DO, however, appreciate the intent.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:25 | 4092776 Black Swan 9
Black Swan 9's picture

With all due respect rubiconsolutions, the US isn't the only place in the world where people vote.

We are not exceptional.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 08:54 | 4092827 logicalman
logicalman's picture

Maybe you should do some research regarding November 5th?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 18:29 | 4093998 stacking12321
stacking12321's picture

Here is your genuine alternative, and you don't have to wait until November 5th to vote for it."

Shows how much the author of this diatribe knows. Brand isn't a US citizen and can't vote. Do some homework....or at least study civics a bit.

maybe you are misunderstanding him.

nov 5th is guy fawkes day.

all one needs to vote is some large bags of fertilizer, some diesel, and a lighter.



Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:41 | 4092063 putaipan
putaipan's picture

i might listen to it now (skipped it for the last three days). generally agree with boris, but i do kind of think the guy's fairely well meaning and got some serious kundalini tickling him from the inside to do something. but as long as this poster is going to hijack him for bitcoins sake .... let me try to hijack this thread for my new favorite "bag lady v.s. the tptb"-

she sounds particularly wacky this time around, in a good way, and if you are familiar with her already- at least the interview is long enough for her to get out a lot of stuff i've really been waiting for her to spill. that and the interviewers are too gun shy to stop her...until she got to the jesuits. then it was all "we don't wanna go there"

anyhoo- i've decided she's a serious enough of a contender that if the tylers don't adress her soon- they're holding out on us. fuck ralph nader or ron paul- this lady's gettin shit done!


oh yeah- skip to 15:00 to get to interview.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 23:47 | 4092301 buckethead
buckethead's picture

An earnest "Thank you for sharing".

It's hard to get any sort of source that is not easily 'tin foiled'. This woman has credentials up to her neck and bona fides to match. Amazingly, she is still drawing breath. 


There are more videos and news snippets of her. Strangely... The MSM has largely ignored her.



Sat, 10/26/2013 - 02:00 | 4092477 merizobeach
merizobeach's picture

Karen Hudes made a strange claim about gold kept at the Bank of Hawaii: "the amount of gold in the deposit in the Bank of Hawaii is 170 000 tonnes, this is more than the World Gold Council says is available for all the gold on the Earth."

That aside, she is somewhat conspicuously absent from Tyler's coverage, as is Jim Rickards.  Tyler, why is that?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:22 | 4092638 Balanced Integer
Balanced Integer's picture

Because the Tylers' are owned by mainstream commercial interests?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:24 | 4092698 Obese-Redneck
Obese-Redneck's picture

No, because Tyler takes it in the crack from chief Kessler?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 01:42 | 4092455 putaipan
putaipan's picture


Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:37 | 4092067 Oh regional Indian
Oh regional Indian's picture

While he talks a great line....and understanding how ptb works, i find it more than mildly disturbong that his name is :

  • Rustle- Brand....

I mean, the guy was as married to katie perry, yes?

I think he is part of the jon stewart clowns- to-be/taken serioisly brigade.


Frightening that the funnymen are the arbiters of truth these days...p

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:44 | 4092088 putaipan
putaipan's picture

i still like "the artist taxi driver" (chunky mike better).

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:05 | 4092140 ZH11
ZH11's picture

'Mark' and he is, except all that 'the queen is goat legged fucker' stuff, takes the edge of some of the more relevnt parts of his criticisms.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 01:08 | 4092413 putaipan
putaipan's picture

i think you meant "queen marky cunt liquor", but otherwise- quite correct.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 23:00 | 4092235 cossack55
cossack55's picture

Review Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Red Foxx and Richard Pryor for starters.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 05:24 | 4092595 DelusionalGrandeur
DelusionalGrandeur's picture

....and Bill Hicks!

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:28 | 4092646 Seer
Seer's picture

Thanks for bringing up Lenny Bruce's name.  Those not familiar with "Bruce" ought to check him out.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:15 | 4092684 Oquities
Oquities's picture

his brave new idea - socialism, limited profits, massive taxation.   who then will want to work for a living?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:18 | 4092689 rbg81
rbg81's picture

All I see is Russell Brand proving that he's a Marxist tool.  He is an ex-drug addict (which he blames on the political class) and has a few talking points he repeats over and over:  we're destroying the planet, there is a huge underclass, people are being underserved, blah, blah, blah.  Gee, never heard any of THAT before. [/s]

Why exactly is this drivel postworthy?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:00 | 4092838 doctor10
doctor10's picture

Denninger has done the math as to why voting  and elections are now a waste of time and money.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 13:10 | 4093391 midtowng
midtowng's picture

Why vote?

Because the elite don't want you to vote. They want you disengaged so that they can continue to run the planet any way they want to. If you were actually engaged in politics, they might have to actually suffer some consequences for their actions.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 20:57 | 4091962 fonzannoon
fonzannoon's picture

Screw Russell Brand and Screw you Michael. You both miss it by a mile.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:16 | 4092008 logicalman
logicalman's picture

Does this mean you are OK with the world as it is?

Hardly an insightful comment, I would have hoped for better from you.

If Mr. Brand misses, it's by a LOT less than a mile.


Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:27 | 4092042 fonzannoon
fonzannoon's picture

I give him credit for knowing a revolution is coming. But I would give the same credit to everyone here. To us it is completely obvious. so how much credit should I really give him. It is his idea of what is a solution to this that makes him miss. 

But what difference does it make. the problem is there are too many of us. There is only one solution and it's not pretty.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:15 | 4092157 Overfed
Overfed's picture

I feel ya', fonz. Brand is a total 'big government will save us', anti-gun, central planner-loving, gestapo worshiping statist. Fuck that guy.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:20 | 4092167 fonzannoon
fonzannoon's picture

Thanks. I feel his anger. But everyone on here is so quick to cheer someone who rails against the status quo they fail to hear what else they have to say. Unfortunately whether it is Brand or Ron does not matter. They are both right. "a revolution is going to happen". But what happens after that is chaos.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:26 | 4092177 Overfed
Overfed's picture

Ron Paul has it right. A revolution isn't what's coming. A civil war is what's coming. You can feel it, like the electricity before a thunderstorm.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:31 | 4092189 fonzannoon
fonzannoon's picture

you think man? I don't know. Where do you see that? I see awful.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:56 | 4092227 RebelDevil
RebelDevil's picture

The civil war is the revolution! The loyalists (Gov workers, wallstreet bankers, free shit army) vs. the rebels (us).

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:27 | 4092703 Obese-Redneck
Obese-Redneck's picture

If only I could fill up my bass boat for $40 everything would be alright, I swear I'd never vote again!

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 07:55 | 4092726 Keyser
Keyser's picture

So many idiots, so little time. Yawn, time for another cup of joe and to laugh at the ZHers that place any value in what a pommie hack has to say about global societies. 


Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:03 | 4092844 logicalman
logicalman's picture

If the words are valuable, does it matter who utters them?

BTW I very much doubt anything valuable has ever even rattled around inside your skull.

Enjoy your joe

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:53 | 4092950 drendebe10
drendebe10's picture

"free shit atmy" - what will they fight with - their obamafones and ebt cards. Sandpaper all of their freeloading parasitics skins off n bury they bastards in salt.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 23:04 | 4092242 Overfed
Overfed's picture

Yeah. It's gonna be awful. The US is pretty Balkanized. There won't be a concerted effort to be free from the central .gov. It's gonna be a huge deflagration between whites, blacks, and hispanics coupled with (perceived) haves vs. have-nots (FSA), coupled with central .gov loyalists vs. those who want to be free to do their own thing. Ugly doesn't even begin to cover it.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:43 | 4092658 Seer
Seer's picture

What exists now IS ugly.  That we aren't splattered with ugly now doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

While there most certainly will be what appears to be balkanized reflexes I'm thinking that it'll be more along the lines of geographic secession, perhaps initially through multiple state partnerships.  Not that I in any way am promoting the idea/notion, it's just what I see as the most probable step: eventually all breaks down into smaller groups.

TPTB would like for us to see us war against one-another rather than create new systems/arrangements that would most certainly nix their dominance.

"those who want to be free to do their own thing."  Are there people who don't want to do their "own thing?"  For the sake of logic, anyone is pretty much "free" to do whatever they wish; what "freedom" they cannot claim is the freedom from retribution from their acts of "freedom."  One has to ask how far one can go before their "own thing" impinges upon the freedoms of someone else... and who/what is the final arbiter?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 13:37 | 4093466 Overfed
Overfed's picture

Are there people who don't want to do their "own thing?"  For the sake of logic, anyone is pretty much "free" to do whatever they wish; what "freedom" they cannot claim is the freedom from retribution from their acts of "freedom."  One has to ask how far one can go before their "own thing" impinges upon the freedoms of someone else... and who/what is the final arbiter?



There are plenty of people out there who want the .gov to manage every aspect of their lives. They want cops to pull them over for talking on the phone, or not wearing a seatbelt. They want the "War on Drugs". They want gun control. They want shitloads of laws for their own good.

Freedom is being able to do whatever you want so long as you aren't hurting anyone else. Freedom is actually owning yourself, and your property, and not owing a tax on either.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 23:29 | 4092280 Element
Element's picture

i.e. don't take advice from degenerates.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 00:28 | 4092360 americanreality
americanreality's picture

I'd say consider it done but that would be going against your advice.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 23:34 | 4092288 olto
olto's picture


This guy takes the words right out of the mouth of any righteous man or woman. He 'said it', and the only place I can disagree with him is:

"a revolution is going to happen".

The revolution is ON!

It is underway in most of the rest of the world with only the Anglo states as non-participants.

Both are right and if they work together whatever differences there are, can be worked out later-------as happened with the 'founding fathers' and mothers.

As for your last-----chaos out of order and order out of chaos----how else is the universe functioning?



Sat, 10/26/2013 - 01:01 | 4092405 James_Cole
James_Cole's picture

Yeah, you've gotta give Brand some credit. How many celebrities talking like him?

It's actually been a risk on his part to come out saying what he's been saying, it's like Will Ferrell talking like a zh'er, wouldn't go over (and hasn't in a lot of places). I bet it's made studios thing twice about putting him in any more blockbuster comedies. 

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!