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Sugar: Sweet With A Bitter "Economic" Aftertaste
Sugar may be sweet, but excess consumption leaves a bitter aftertaste: millions of people worldwide are affected by type II diabetes or obesity, costing the global healthcare system billions of dollars every year. As the Credit Suisse Research Institute's 2013 study "Sugar: Consumption at a Crossroad" found, close to 90% of general practitioners in the US, Europe and Asia believe excess sugar consumption is linked to the sharp growth in these health problems.
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A case can be made that table sugar(sucrose) is the first artificial sweetener. It only really became available in large quantities during the industrial revolution.
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LTER said basically the same thing below: high-fructose corn poison.
Sugar is on just about every table in Europe (where they also make some of the best pastries and chocolates). If you saw that bar graph in the article, you saw (among others) Italy (think pasta and cappucinos) and France (think pate and pastries and cheese) near the top (best) with, of course, the US dead last in the obesity department.
Yes, sugar plays a part, but [sedentary] lifestyle and nuking dinner every night don't help.
We trick our minds in oh so many ways, sugar is just another one of them.
http://super-fruit.net/
the small documentary "king corn" does a great sub-piece on high fructose corn syrup
The FDA (Monsanto) actually recently increased the amount of sugar it recommends in our diet.
Err.. centuries of Portuguese conventual pastry beg to disagree with you...
what worries me is that even if there is a public backlash against sugar etc., TPTB will simply introduce something even more dangerous but sold as a better alternative.
Since I'm ranting, I might was well ask what's stopping Monsanto from causing a wide-scale destruction of food crops such that everybody then is forced to use special GMO crops. All good questions I think.
FED cotton candy spun for Wall Street and the elites is doing much more harm than that cane stuff.
Sugar consumption a possible cause, but could very well be artificial sweeteners, or a virus.
Scientists haven't had much luck fighting viruses that cause cancer and other diseases.
Wonder why?
Interestingly enough, one of the ads on ZH caught my eye by pitching to me that I'm likely "infected" with something.
Then i listened to a presentation about how the soda and other food companies lobbied refined sugars and sweeteners past the FDA and into our economy, and how massive sugar consumption is the cause of a candida overgrowth epidemic, of which of come out derivative diseases like cancer, obesity, ect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_(fungus)
The solution (which was pitched by the advertising presentation): Probiotics
Sugar fuels the growth of yeasts, but doesn't kill. Candida however does!
A strange, but enlightening coincidence that occured today. Thanks Tyler for the ads! bahaha
edit: The company that pitched that presentation to me was Whole Body Research, a h/t to them for spreading awareness of the problem!
Thanks for the info Rebel. I've got a feeling that there is likely a complex matrix of interactions with lots of things going on, infectious processes, blood glucose, and even alternative sources of energy for the brain (ketone bodies, naturally produced during starvation by metabolism of fatty acids).
In Antifragile, Taleb covers the fact that the Mediterranean diet in the absence of Greek Orthodox fasting practices (he quotes over 200 days of fasting in their calendar) loses its protective effect.
Immune system interaction is appears to be important, and if I recall from my biochemistry days, plagues in blood vessels contained immune cells, hinting at some infectious process, with the immune response partially causing the damage to the vessel. Could this be candida?
Another interesting documentary that you should track down is BBC Eat Fast that covers fasting and the role of IGF-1 (insulin Growth Factor). We seem to be built to alternatively feast then starve. Note, none of this involves a solution from big Pharma...
Take it from a lowly clinical microbiologist. Candida albicans, C. tropicalis, C. krusei etc are an extreme problem. I've seen severely ill patients loaded everywhere with candida. When I'm looking for pathogenic fungus growing in these patients, I can't isolate it because of the massive amount of candida growing. These yeasts rarely cause pneumonia but their presence in such high numbers are highly abnormal. Any antibiotic use or too much sugar will spur their growth. They are sugar junkies. They also are known to produce toxins. Best to not consume too many carbs, especially refined ones. They are tenacious and hard to get rid of. Probiotics will help because through sheer numbers of CFUs of good bacteria will suppress them.
Miffed;-)
Two more programs from ABC Australia, each can be downloaded or viewed online + transcripts:Toxic Sugar? and Heart of the Matter Part 1 - Dietary Villains.
Sugar is just fine. Been around for a long, long time. It's high fructose fucking corn syrup that is killing the population. I go in binges where I don't eat anything with HFCS in it and I feel a ton better. But it sure as fuck tastes good.
Guillotine the bankers and take your vitamins.
I'll even do without the vitamins.
You can guillotine moar bankers when you take vitamins.
Okay, then. Liquid or pill?
www.puritan.com
I take the old geezer pills, Ultraman 50+, it has lots of Vitamin D3. Sugar actually depletes your system of a lot minerals, so a good multi is a must. Nothing there to help with excessive Vitamin B(ourbon) intake though.
Here you go.
http://www.puritan.com/liver-support-655
Personal opinion only; I think B vitamins help a bit as well.
I tried them, they only made me thirstier. Too late for me.
Re vitamin D3: Amazing stuff. I had this bony knob growing on my index finger. Some kind of bone spur. I took 50,000 IU of D3 daily for about a month. It just melted away. Hasn't come back.
its not just high fructose corn syrup its sugar that's bad for you. evidence for this seems to be building everywhere.
Unlike sugar however, HFCs has been known to be contaminated with mercury as well. Considering it is in everything today,mercury load could be substantial.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/136879.php
Miffed;-)
It also suppresses leptin in your brain, confusing it into thinking you're not yet full.
Yes, I have found this to be a bit too coincidental. Michael Pollan in Omnivores Dilemma describes the problem of " fixed stomach" or the problem the population in the USA is not growing rapidly enough to increase profits for big Food. Therefore, it is necessary for people to eat more as individuals to achieve greater profits. Another substance that increases appetite is aspartame which,ironically,is in diet food. I was hungry constantly when I ate Standard American Diet food and obese. Six years later earing non GMO, unprocessed food, I'm rarely hungry unless its appropriate for me to me so and am 50lbs lighter ( still about 15lbs technically over weight but I'm working on it!).
Miffed;-)
nice post
aspartame is one very evil substance placed into our diet by even more evil politicians over the objection of the then less corrupt FDA scientists in the eightees
Stevia may be one of the safer plant sources
Incredible.
Problem is, that shit is in everything. Honey would probably be very bad for you if consumed in the quantities that some of tha lardasses in this country consume HFCS.
"Sugar is just fine."
In spite of your 27 thumbs up to one down (not me, I'll make two), Rand, you could not be more wrong. Foods that have a high glycemic load are all extremely detrimental to health. Look at the incidence of type 2 diabetes in Mexico where cane sugar is still the predominant source of added dietary sugar. Look at India where excessive quantities of rice (which has a glycemic load about 4x higher than wheat) is strongly correlated with type 2 diabetes, even in people who aren't very overweight.
HFCS may be somewhat more dangerous in certain ways, but if you go around having four Cokes a day containing real cane sugar, or 4 glasses of apple juice (which has a massive glycemic load), or just a lot of rice, corn, potatoes, and other high glycemic load foods, you are going to be at high risk for central obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and cancer. Our bodies are just not made to metabolize that much sugar.
I'll give you a +1 for being against corn syrup, Lola. Who ever said we can't get along?
You have no fucking right to question my right to sell whatever I want to sell to people, whether it be sugar, booze or cigarettes...
I totally agree as long as the people have a free flow of information on the consequences of there choices. For instance the promotion of artificial fats over natural fats and the totally bogus food pyramid has caused tremendous damage.
Free flow of information, eh? Can I get a purple unicorn with yellow spots?
You clearly have been poe'd....
". . . whether it be sugar, booze or cigarettes..."
Or the services of hit men?
Moar pseudoscience political bullshit leading up to the 'fat' tax and double obamacare premiums........
Sugar from sugar beets beat High-fructose corn syrup all day long...not to say it's healthy but still.
Sugar beets are ALL GMOs and so is everything corn. Pick your poison. If it isn't organic and GMO free you should not touch it.
Yeah give up the refined cane sugar... but keep glugging down the bleached grain flours, corn syrup, free radicals, oxidizers, heavy metals, endocrine disruptors, allergens, and tons of wheat gluten.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
This kind of moronic FALLACY OF THE SINGLE CAUSE bullshit helps NO ONE, the thinking process is FRACTALLY WRONG.
Why does CREDIT SUISSE care? Because they'd prefer the plebs to die quicker, and because most diabetes meds are now relatively cheap (though diabetes is still better for margins than, say, influenza, because you have to stay on the meds FOR LIFE and because - as most who have diabetes also have metabolic syndrome - will develop 10 other problems which can't be treated as cheaply but drag out for decades).
Before colonization, Europe had NO cane sugar, neither corn syrup. Zero. Nada. The rich had wildflower honey (which is comprised of different sugar alcohols and vastly healthier if you need to sweeten).
Now good luck kicking the populace off cane sugar and HFCS. They're cheap as air, taste great, and can be used in virtually any dish in any cuisine. Remember obesity is a sure sign of MALNUTRITION. It is a disease of the poor, because they can't afford NOT to eat junk.
Then they get cancer from decades of chronic, essentially constant INFLAMMATION and the sawtooth spiking of blood sugar wreaking havoc on the endocrine system.
Doctors know all of this. They don't give a fuck. They know their patients have no willpower or impulse control and/or are to poor to eat right, and the chronic illnesses give the entire medical and insurance industries their bread and butter.
IT AIN'T ROCKET SCIENCE. Now I'm going back to my totally unsweetened green tea, my third cup today.
Check the fluoride content of the tea.
Exept this bold generaization "Doctors know all of this. They don't give a fuck" I completely agree.
Doctors are people to, and some of them are as dumb as a box of rocks, some are paid to prescribe bullshit medicine and some are cool cats like you and me. :)
MOAR sugar! Feed ME Obama!
White flour is easily as glycemic as sugar (a plain French baguette has a sky-high glycemic index of 95 compared to 62 for table sugar). In general, processed foods are very glycemic. Eat natural foods and you will have virtually no chance of getting diabetes. If you want to reduce your diabetes risk to zero, you could do worse than try this site: http://diabetesrisk.net/
Your system will be ending soon, so why worry.
Everything comes in cycles.
The American cycle is over.
Make no mistake, each cycle is still operational within a system of ownership. We are the property of the systems managers. The next cycle will be no different. No choice, and we have only freedom over the inconsequential.
This is Socialist bullshit for a sugar tax, diabetes is a over 70% genetic disease, they can predict right now who will get diabetes with at least 7 different gene tests, this is why Congress outlawed genetic discrimination in medical insurance pricing a few years ago.
Latinos and Hispanics are 200-400% more likely to develop diabetes than whites depending on which govt study cited, blacks have even higher rates-regardless of diet Sonya Sotomayor is the poster child.
Also: it's called not eating like a jackass.
Our bodies react differently to different fuels. Anyone can spew shit about a calorie being a calorie being a calorie, but your body reacts very differently to the type of shit you shovel down your throat.
Do a longterm experiment.
Have one guy eat junk foods and adding protein supplementation to meet the identical macronutrient profile of person b.
Person B. Who eats foods according to the food pyramid,
Person C. Eats unprocessed foods.
Everyone has the same macronutrient profile. Identical workout programs and it's all in a controlled enviroment.
Come back to me in a year and tell me if their results will be identical.
What's sad it that it truly is an addiction. I drink a bunch of soda or other sweet drinks. I know that it's fucking horrible for you in many ways (HFCS & Phosphoric Acid most especially to blame). But yet I don't see myself without them, even though I know that the more of them I drink, the shorter my life is.
I was like that many years ago, too.
i was 30% bf or more. I looked for any excuse. Thyroid conditions, belief in bodytype somatypes, etc.
Until one day when I looked in the mirror and was disgusted with myself. I made the conscious decision to change my life from that point on.
There is no such thing as a "diet" that works. You need to make lifestyle changes. Change yourself.
Losing weight is hard work.
(that much truthiness in five words can lead to mechanical failure and cranial combustion in soft craniums)
its like any other drug addiction
and you are a new person after you shake this shit off
I have't drank a soda pop in 10 years - you know why? Because when I buy food I don't buy any shit stuff like that - so when I am home I don;t eat any shit stuff.
It is not rocket science
Have some fucking self control
I'll never have to worry about type II diabetes.
I have type I.
If there's one thing I know for sure it's you can tax people into changing their bad habits.
Be out having a cigarette drinking my vodka tonic if you need me.
Don't worry I HAVE OBAMACARE! And thanks by the way LOL.
There is another effect that is rarely addressed, much of our sugar is beet sugar that is price controlled because cane sugar provides a base price along with import quotas. Raising sugar beets is very hard on the soil and is slowly destroying prime crop land in the mid-west. I like sweet as much as the average person and limit my sugar by saccharine use. I know it is a coal tar product but no study has proved it a carcinogen and the evidence about diabetes, obesity, and related effects is overwhelming.
Indeed. If I recall, the world price of sugar is much cheaper than the price in the US thanks to what is sometimes called the Sugar Racket.
So, I don't know if using high-fructose corn crap is a substitute as a result of this rigged price of sugar or just some kind of pandering a la ethanol to the farming lobby, but the sugar racket in the states is sickening and certainly spreads across many presidential administrations, including this current one.
There is a fact that many are not aware of: Most sugar beets are now GMO.
Cane sugar is not GMO.
We need enforced labelling of GMOs.
working on it here is WA state. Like always, Monsanto and the other gangs come in at the end with shitloads of ads and money. My input from day one was that we need to be very aggressive and point out deadly effects like l tryptophan
http://www.psrast.org/demsd.htm
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Obama will cure the sugar ills
Fema camps.
I almost want to get sick whenever I see these fat pigs walking around with their 40-oz (or whatever size) container of soda pop. I think I'd throw up if I drank such a quantity of soda.
If these fatsos are happy, then, great, and it's none of my business. Where it becomes my business is when my tax dollars has to support medical treatment for these obese pigs who don't watch what they eat and drink.
I can remember growing up when a glass (let alone a 12- or 16-oz. bottle) of soda pop was a treat. Now, with all of the free refills at the restaurants (among other things), it's no wonder we are more obese now than ever.
People who are overweight should refrain from commenting or making recommendations!
Personally, I have a BMI of 22 and have had the same waistline for 43 years. I never drink soft drinks (soda/pop) and fruit juices. I consume as little sugar as possible - by skipping all chocolates containing more than 10% sugar for example. I make my own bread with a bread-machine and consume as little white flour as possible. We only eat at home and cook all our own food from original ingredients - no tinned rubbish. I eat bacon and two eggs for breakfast at least 5 times a week.
I suggest you do the same.
>> I eat bacon and two eggs for breakfast at least 5 times a week.
>> I suggest you do the same.
One size fits all diet plan? Thanks doc, but I just don't think bacon and eggs every morning is right for everybody.
Sugar The Bitter Truth:
HFCS/Sugar video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
it's not about what you eat, it's about having nothing to eat or eating massive amounts..somebody say amen.
the curse of starvation, the curse of plenty..western man is lucky to have choices of how much and how often and what types of food we eat..humanity cannot deal with plenty any better than it can with starvation.
How lucky those of us who have the choice of plenty. some fat white guy said" moderation in all things" of course that only applied to others as ol Ben ate, drank and fucked his way thru europe.
I do not believe it is sugar. I think it is High Fructose Corn Syrup. It is in everything these days. Just go to the store and try to buy something that does not have it. Including sliced Roast Beef, yogurt, crackers, even in some flavored potato chips, etc.
The highest rates of diabetes in the world are found in areas with low sugar consumption: China and among the Navajo indian reservations. Many studies have suggested that the main contributing factor in diabetes is the consumption of trans-fats.
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/34/6/1249.full
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-04-18/health/fl-suzy-cohen-042113-20130418_1_rheumatoid-arthritis-gut-organ
http://www.ctds.info/ibs_diet.html#fungus
http://www.ketogenic-diet-resource.com/cancer-treatments.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/skinny-on-fats#intro
Just a little while ago, there was an article in the New York Times, linking statin use with diabetes. Statins are the drugs doctors prescribe to lower high blood pressure. Big Pharma somehow managed to neglect telling the people this. Statins are one of the most prescribed medications in this country, and as the prescriptions for statins rose, so did the incendence of type II diabetes.
Statins are used to lower cholesterol levels.
The fact that they increase the risk of; Diabetes, Alzheimers, cataracts, cancer, and they destroy muscle tissue (permanently) doesn't seem to matter to most doctors. There're going to be other side-effects that'll come up later, I'm sure.
And the fact that cholesterol levels in the blood can be reduced by natural, benign methods also doesn't seem to matter to most doctors.
My Bad, it was either HBP or cholesterol I flipped a coin got it wrong, but you are absolutely correct.
>> Diabetes, Alzheimers, cataracts, cancer, and they destroy muscle tissue (permanently) doesn't seem to matter to most doctors.
Tru Dat!!! I've had several serious run ins with statins. I now refuse to take them. My doctor, who I think is a really sharp guy, and I like as a doctor, wants me to keep taking them. After many years on the crap, and several very serious side effects, statins are out for me.
>> And the fact that cholesterol levels in the blood can be reduced by natural, benign methods
Reduced, yes. Reduced significantly, probably not. I work on it seriously and make a dent, but when your cholesterol and blood fats are genetically very high, like mine, it's a difficult task. But, I'll continue to give it my best and suffer the consequences of my genetics.
Well over a decade ago looked into this. Can't be assed suckers you can all carry on as you are.
What population had the lowest level of diabetes? Eskimos! Now start importing all the canned fizzy drinks with artificial sweetners into the economy. Oh diabetes rose as they changed their dietary habits.
Chuck this in for a general thought, before allowing aspartme to be added to fizzy drink it had to pass through the UK parliament where the scientist responsible for overseeing this process was sacked due to fraud / corruption. Of course the UK parliament, based on his finding passed it as safe to be added to soft drinks now.
Now the artificial sweetners, although it seems any reliable data on safety of adding things like aspartme to drinks and fed into a population is kind of suspect seeing as alot of the evidence on lab rats is all over the place.
Late 90's aspartame was approved by the FDA to be added to soft drinks and we ended up with an explosive growth globally in diabetes, export the poison. It affects the functioning of the glands in the body. Guess what the pancreas is a gland, and it is fucked in the process.
Near 50 now, lived on sugar all my life, got a sweet tooth to and due to other issues seem to have repeated tests for diabetes and are all returned NO DIABETES. There again, from an episode on a load of lemonade one hot summers day with a prescribed drug fucked the brain up and so you learn,
Was denied for use in such a way for decades until one US politician got it a approved then went to work for the company. Good oh!
Also know these are the words from a doctor "aspartame should not be given to young children as they develop" for sure and who is drinking these soft drink?
You couldn't make the above up, but it is true so I WILL STICK WITH MY SUGAR THANKS AND STUFF THE ARTIFICAL SWEETNERS.
There is also a sugar plant it grows in South America, dry it and add it to drinks to sweeten. Kind of awesome, not allowed by the FDA and the EU because it would compete with the artifical sweetner industry. The Japanese though before Fukoshima, kind of a healthy bunch, were importing it by the boat load.
The above kind of outlines why the world is in such a sorry mess and now you want to blame it on sugar.
In the US: Aspartame has now been approved for adding to milk. The thinking is, this will make milk sweeter and more palatable to children, and they'll drink more of it!
All part of the master-plan to reduce the world's excess population.
http://rt.com/usa/food-obesity-health-us-776/
One general conclusion I've made about food; the more 'processed' the worse it is for you.
Refined sugar is not good for you, HFCS is worse than sugar and it inhibits the chemical reaction where the stomach tells the brain it's full. Aspartame is basically a poison.
Remember the low fat/no fat craze of the 90's? I do, I worked in the food industry then. You know how you make a low/no fat item taste good? Add LOTS of sugar. Which, coincidentally makes the item higher in bad calories and therefore made the supposedly healthier product worse than it's normal fat counterpart. Also, it was found that folks who regularly bought said no/low fat products actually consumed more product, compared to the regular fat product, thinking they were eating healthier. So a double whammy.
Pure cane sugar or stevia
Everything else is poison...
>> Everything else is poison..
Honey is poison? No wonder the hippies died out.
Cut out sugar, excercise regularly, and health levels go through the roof.