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US Foreign Policy SNAFU Deja Vu - US-Backed Rebels Lead Al-Qaeda Resurgence
It's happening again. The US lack of intervention in Syria (and implicit and explicit support for the rebels) has apparently emboldened none other than Al-Qaeda. As the WSJ reports, a flurry of recent attacks by al Qaeda-linked militants in Iraq - strengthened by their alliance with jihadist fighters in Syria - is threatening to undo years of U.S. efforts to crush the group, widening sectarian conflict in the Middle East. Iraqi security officials say al Qaeda-linked fighters from the militant group Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, or ISIS, are moving aggressively to re-establish a base of operations in Anbar province, the stronghold of the Sunni insurgency during the U.S.-led war in Iraq.
The chaos across the border in Syria and Iraqi Sunnis' feeling of discrimination under the Shiite-led government has reignited the kind of intense sectarian strife that brought Iraq to the verge of civil war in 2006-2007. A security vacuum left by the withdrawal of American combat troops in December 2011 is also helping the fighters regain a foothold.
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Iraqi security officials say al Qaeda-linked fighters from the militant group Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, or ISIS, are moving aggressively to re-establish a base of operations in Anbar province, the stronghold of the Sunni insurgency during the U.S.-led war.
If the extremists succeed, they would undo one of the hardest-fought gains of U.S. forces and their Iraqi allies. By the time of the U.S. pullout at the end of 2011, the insurgency had been significantly weakened, in large part by a U.S. alliance with moderate Sunni tribesmen.
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Following recent attacks in Anbar and the northern city of Mosul, Syrian and Iraqi jihadis openly congratulated ISIS operatives on jihadi Web forums.
Whereas attacks in the rest of the country tend to be isolated acts of terror such as car and suicide bombings, Anbar officials say attacks in the province look more like muscular efforts to gain and hold territory.
The growing instability in Iraq coincides with the strengthening of jihadist rebels in Syria, many of them foreign fighters, battling to unseat President Bashar al-Assad.
The fighters flow fluidly back and forth across the Iraq-Syria border, staging attacks on both sides, Iraqi intelligence officials said.
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"The regional situation is applying huge pressure on us," said Falih al Essawi, the deputy head of Anbar provincial council and a member in a prominent Sunni tribe. "ISIS is trying to control the borders to find a means to transport weapons, equipment and fighters between the two countries."
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While most local residents in Anbar don't support al Qaeda, many see the group as a last bastion of resistance against Shiite domination.
"ISIS isn't facing any refusal or resistance from the locals," said Mr. Tou'ma, the Shiite legislator.
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The Obama administration, in turn, has angered its Persian Gulf allies with its overtures to Iran and its decision not to intervene in Syria.
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who gives a fuck, wall it off, isolate the cancer of islam and let them self destruct. may the truest believer win.
they all have embraced insanity as a religion and hate as their god.
Isis, wasn't that a pagan Babylonian goddess? And Babylon, wasn't that right around where Iraq is?
And Isis, isn't that the first part of the Trinity, Isis, Ra, El, that Israel is named after?
Time for a new strategy, braniacs at the DoD, State Department , Pentagon & any other geniuses working foreign (mal)policy -
Quit arming ANY GROUPS.
I humbly disagree. We should do the exact opposite. Let's arm all of the groups to the teeth and let them duke it out. The last guy left can proclaim himself President, Sultan or whatever.
http://dareconomics.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/around-the-globe-10-25-2013/
emanuel goldstein, er, al-CIA-duh, seems to pop up everywhere these days.
Next, Kurdistan.
although it is pure coincidence that the debt ceiling was suspended before these activities, the timing is fortuitous
the us now has a free hand to spend on a scale never before imagined
a billion bullets
the mother of all surges
autonomous aerial vehicles covering the airspace
autonomous ground vehicles covering the terrain
bio-inspired surveillance and lethality-projection bots deployed in every house
this trillion dollars will help pave the way for more ubiquitous-er lethal-er surveillanc-er gadgets for everybody!
Soon, Saudi Arabia will openly support them, and it will be deftly quiet that comes fron the White House, whom themselves are closet supporters.
But GW PROMISED me the MORE the US got involved the MORE terrorism we got!
Wait, I thought Obama won the Iraq war ?
He also won the Spanish-American War and paid for my gas.
He paid my mortgage and defeated the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man!
Fo realz, yo!
Obama beat his own meat and paid for my Obama phone, so he's go my vote in 2016.
THIRD TERM FOR OBAMA! MOAR HOPE AND CHANGE! And if you are against it your are RACCIST!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Wait, I thought Obama won the Iraq war ?
No, that was Afghanistan.
Iraq is still in overtime. We're still chasing Al Kyda #1 around the field.
"al Qaeda-linked fighters from the militant group Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, or ISIS, are moving aggressively to re-establish a base of operations in Anbar province, the stronghold of the Sunni insurgency during the U.S.-led war in Iraq."
Kind of gives new meaning to the phrase, "Thank you for your service"
+1000 I don't think the pointlessness of their sacrifice is lost on the Middle East vets, themselves. They are comitting suicide at a rate of something like one ever 65 minutes right now.
Obammy don't care. Mostly bitter clingers anyway.
There's 3 trillion down the drain...wasted..good job Barry
TD...I don't even use the site on my pc anymore causes the ads blew me up....using the mobile for 3 months and now your site is fucking my mobile browser up....give me a break...guess I'll have to go to FINVIZ to see whats going on here....can't you fix this?
Speech!*
*COMEON, BARRY'LL MAKE ANOTHER SPEECH AND IT'LL BE ALL FIXED
Ah-ha! But Barry hasn't yet announced there's a problem to fix a la media only picking up the IRS story when he announced it.
They need time to develop a proper media spin story - and another off the record meeting at the White House - Before announcing the problem. Then a week later after disaster recovery, can announce it has been solved.
They're running out of fainting women to prop up behind him. No big speech til next week.
Yeah, but the midgets, cancer victims and blind people are a nice touch.
Imagine how much money you could make supplying their photo ops with blind gay midgets of color who survived breast cancer!
Someone may faint if Barry speaks again...Call EMS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUipvrMYw9g
I find the fact that more and more people are getting wise to the staggering hypocrisy and double standards evident in the so called war on terror very heartening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC7YEw1jgFU&feature=youtu.be
Fuck you McCain for being a douche and giving aid and comfort to enemies of humanity. The Arizona wingman for jihad, the maverick of the mujahideen, the hamsterface disgrace....and so on.
"Isis, wasn't that a pagan Babylonian goddess? And Babylon, wasn't that right around where Iraq is? And Isis, isn't that the first part of the Trinity, Isis, Ra, El, that Israel is named after?"
Isis is actually Egyptian, Semaramis is Babylonian. However, the religions of Babylon and Egypt are closely related, as are Greek and Roman mythology. Similar charcters with different names.
You are correct about Is-Ra-El. Judaism is plagarized from earlier religions. Hebrews followed whatever relgion was popular in their region at the time, just as people do in modern times. Religions are tools of the Kings, administered by the priests to protect power of the throne, same as it is today.
Those who hold the ancient knowledge know the origins of religion. They do not share it with the public in literal form. An emperor ordained the Christian religion and a King put it in print for mass consumption. However, just as your rulers today distort the truths, so did they with the Testaments. Yes, these are full of history and truths, but are spun and not necessarily occuring in the times claimed.
Scholars will claim Babylon is the oldest civilization of the Mid East. This is incorrect, as evidenced by the sphinx and its water erosion. Did you know there is a series of labyrinths under the Sphinx and extending miles beyond the Memphis pyramids? Included are grand openings the size of cathedrals, masonic columns and more.
There is much history the general population is not privy to.
Yep, history is definitely full of surprises.
I agree that chronologically our understanding of history is flawed. One thing I heard was that the New Testament and Old Testament actually represented two DISTINCT religious traditions, hence the clear difference "Eye for an eye" to "Turn the other cheek", as but one example.
I think the building of temples was part of a medieval strategy by feudal rulers to 'win the minds' of the populace. If you grew up in a wooden shack with a dirt floor, the Hagia Sophia would probably blow your mind.
Very interesting, is there a place to read more?
You might want to look into secret societies. Or not.
Dragon Boundary Marker at the entrance to 'The City' in London
Image description:
The Cooper quote and the dragons guarding The City...it's all just coinky-dinks...Right?
Isis was the wife of Osiris - Ancient Egyptian mythology. These English acronyms don't quite come across the same way in Arabic!
The fact is that when the USA was in Iraq, they paid these people big bucks to not attack American soldiers. This is payback time.
No, the names in Arabic of course have a different acronym, using a different alphabet!
But its a clear message to those in the West "with eyes to see".
Do you always talk with the lips of your anus ?
Radical sunni islam, as per the feudal gulf monarchies? Sure. A bunch of us called this shit years ago and all the western politicians supporting it should be hanged for treason. Syria has done more for the war on Terror as has any country. Secular Egypt as well. The same was said for Gaddaffi before we installed al quaeda there.
I'm sure we can reason with these alQuaeda chaps.
Perhaps a Cadillac Obamacare plan would seduce them into civility.
Just one more cog in the Grand plan.
fourchan cock breath.
your mind is swimming in semen your rectum filled to burst.
take your bush family lies and go shoot yourself fag.
before you do have a thought for the innocent who are being killed for cia,mossad and mi6 saudi and qatari pipe line wars.
if you have not got the balls to shoot yourself get back down the meat disco : )
Wait, are these the good Al-Qaeda or the bad Al-Qaeda?
Yes
Western Iraqi Al Qaeda are the bad guys, Western Syrian Al Qaeda are the good guys, Eastern Syrian Al Qaeda are tag team partners with Western Iraqi who are bad, but not as good as the Libyan Al Qaeda...I haven't heard much about the Taliban lately.
Re: I haven't heard much about the Taliban lately.
Thanks for clearing that right up Global!
Don't the oh-so-intelligent folks at our Alphabet agencies realize that people in the middle east don't subscribe to our Western "red team/blue team" style politics?
Well, I guess since these retards developed professionally while "fighting" the cold-war they are unable to think outside of that mindset.
This is much more fluid, much more chaotic than they realize. Oh sure they can talk a big game about "Asymetrical Warfare" all the day long, but they don't truly understand it (and I think in large part because they didn't grow up with it or mature with it and are set in their ways) and certainly don't know how to act in order to counter it.
But I know how to help. I understand these dynamics. I understand these people and how they think. But I'm not going to help unless I can get paid (fucking $$$$$) for it.
Iraq needs Saddam Hussein back.
Would a lookalike suffice?
Can we give them our Hussein?
Dammit. Duplicate post.
Well, if you're here next week we'll know they haven't taken you up on your offer to share your amazing and unique knowledge of Islamo-whackos.
I'm kind of an expert myself. My sister dated a guy for a while who's parents were from Lebanon.
The US did intervene in Syria. by arming al-Qaeda.
They let Tim Osmond take all the weapons he could carry off, only to later bury him off the side of an aircraft carrier, in strict accordance with some alleged religious practice.
Tim Osman, for those wanting to use Google.
I always thought it was Donny & Marie's Saudi cousin?
When I'm king, one of my first acts will be to outlaw use of the word "embolden."
can I do the court jester sthick?
I decree it shall be replaced with "embiggen".
If you don't empower me, Iwill feel disenfranchised and hold my breath and stomp my feet.
It won't be pretty.
Oliver North, Oliver North, please meet your party in the Freedum Fighters lounge, that's Oliver North.
What's not funny is seeing all the wounded family members who fought in Iraq for what they thought was a worth while cause see it all thrown away in less than two years time. That's got to be hard for them to handle and no one should make light of that ...
They knew what they signed up for as far the fighting and personal consequences end of it. The bigger issue is finding out they were mislead into a fight that was sold one way but the reality was something completely different. I think a lot of us are dealing with those particular issues and consequences personal and otherwise of being lied to by 'authority' right now on different levels here.
Amen. Few if any wars are fought for any good or noble reasons. And the victors never become victors by playing fair.
It's all a racket, as Gen. Smedley Butler will tell you.
They enter the service as kids, and come out disillusioned dissenters. That is why they are on the terrorist list and must be disarmed. Just ask Pharisee spirited Feinstein, or any of the other dual citizen cancers destroying our government.
Re: who fought in Iraq for what they thought was a worth while cause
Yes, some of the things people do and say are astounding.
I agree with you, but everyone needs to realize that those are sunk costs. Both monetary, and most unfortunately, human. Pouring more of either down that rat hole will accomplish nothing. They need to abandon that embassy also, the one that's more like a small city-state.
I agree also sometimes you need to cut your loses even if it is an ego deflator. It is bad enough people had to pay with their health and lives no need to to subject more people to it just to prove you were right.
BTW, one of my predictions is that at some point, they are going to be forced to abandon that fortress of solitude that passes as an embassy, whether they want to or not.
barbarians are at the gates bitches from here on out.
make al kada buy health care that will do um in
The Rebels are Al-Queda and CIA funded.
Re: The Rebels are Al-Queda and CIA funded.
It's unpatriotic talk like this that weakens this great-n-glorious country.
As patriots we must protect the NSA from the likes of Snowdon and start listening to the great military men who made this country great-n-glorious.
As Europe erupts over US spying, NSA chief says government must stop mediaWith General Alexander calling for NSA reporting to be halted, US and UK credibility as guardians of press freedom is crushed
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/25/europe-erupts-nsa-spying-chief-government
The Guardian as a source?
Methinks you need to spend an evening researching who owns the Guardian, it may cause you to rethink them as an info source to be relied upon.
More likely a disinfo source, eh?
DaddyO
Right. Let's not forget that Al-Queda works for US and S.A.. They are our enemy when we want them to be and our friend when we want them to be. They do what they are told to do (i.e. Lybia, Syria) and are paid for it.
So, there is a reason they are "resurging" in Iraq. I'm sure it is related to SA pretending to be pissed at US right now and US pretending to get along with Iran right now.
It is business as usual in Syria, regardless of what is reported.
If this expands it will be a door for the US to get back involved. They need a new excuse, this may be it.
Things would be a lot easier if one could take the MSM at face value. Unfortunately the WSJ was at the forefront in pushing for Iraq war II based on:
1) a fabricated link to 9-11 (supposed hijacker Mohammed Atta meeting an Iraqi intelligence official in Prague),
2) trying to tie Iraq to the anthrax attacks,
3) promoting the non-existent Iraqi (around 2002) WMD threat.
That's not to say this story is false either, but at the very least it does hype up the supposed menace of Al-Qaeda in the public's mind, and consequently provides justification for continuing the war on terror. And as most of us should be aware by now, the GWOT is being used as an excuse to limit some of our freedoms.
You really have to wonder what this world is coming to.
Canada has it's problems too...
http://www.cjme.com/story/thefts-skyrocket-milestone-area/140157
Stealing cars that have the keys in them, and other wise, just stealing whats in the cars.
Its a handful of broke ass people.
No one needs to pretend anymore that there is an actual solution to this mess. Heads you lose, Tails you lose....
No amount of intervention or non-intervention can undo the last 40 years of insane Middle Easy policy. We armed dictators for 40 years and now we get to sit back and watch the hornets nest sting itself to death.
The headline of this story seems to imply that there was some sane foreign policy option/decision Obama or any other president of either party we could have made that would have turned Syria into a nice, safe, quiet little ally.
The naivite on this comment board can be astounding sometimes.
Re; The naivite on this comment board can be astounding sometimes.
Don't confuse naivity for "Libertarians" (LINO's) and "Conservatives" (CINO's) with Red Team OCD.
The true-believers of both Teams simply have an OCD where they believe the bullshit created by their own sociopathic leaders. Most humans have it, and (probably) all young males do. Just depends on how strong the OCD is and what bullshit your brain resonates too.
They can't help themselves.
There are things that could have been done, and things that should have not have been done which would have made the situation "less bad" than this collective of cretins have made it.
And to top it off, they they don't even run the retard shtick, these arrogant ass clowns pretend they actually know what they're talking about when they actually have no clue what the fuck they're doing.
The current administration has literally FUBAR'd a bad situation, which does nothing but raise long term costs, political, economic, and blood- there are NO EXCUSES for this.
Get out of the Middle East, get out of Africa. If $60+Bil. a year for Homeland Security can't stop a few raghead terrorists from coming into this country then we deserve what we get and I want my money back.
homo security is for You, Comrade!
Let the State Dept. control something they could handle - a popsicle stand, one flavor max.....
We should be encouraging a Shia vs. Sunni war.
Re: We should be encouraging a Shia vs. Sunni war
FFCS, that's what we HAVE been doing since we put the Saud family in charge of the middle-east.
Where do you think a bunch of sand-people get all these cool toys to play with?
Divide and Conquer.
If you look at the Middle East, you will see that the countries with lots of people have SOME oil, and the countries with less people have LOTS of oil. Those borders were drawn literally as lines in the sand, by the British, as the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire. Its no accident, IMO.
It was no accident.
There was no way that allied powers were going to give a huge population of "WOGS" unlimited access to unlimited funds.
Nomadic tribes were thought to be so much easier to control.
Welcome out from under your rock. Be careful, the lighties will hurt your eyes.
mi6,cia,mossad,qatar and saudi arabia the real axis of fucking satanic rothschild zionist evil.
Oy veh! Extra Christian baby blood on my matzohs please and make sure it's Kosher.
pure coincidence that just about all the folks who found those Iraqi WMDs in the Office of Special plans were ultra-Zionist Jews
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/01/lie-factory
pure coincidence AIPAC and your more Israelcentric types are the loudests voices calling for another war in Syria.
Pure coincidence so many neocons, who favor using American blood and treasure to remake the middle east, are Jewish
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
And wholly predictable that some asshole like you comes along and tries to conflate telling the truth with "hate."
http://holywar.org/jewishtr/19antis1.htm
http://holywar.org/jewishtr/19antis2.htm
Fuck you forever, you lying, predictable cunt.
first you didn't want intervention... now you want intervention. make up your mind, tyler.
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HA HA HA HA
just for the record, and for those of you interested, things are going extemely well in the middle east. bettor than in any time in my lifetime. syria, goin' bettor than anyone woulda thought back on aug 26, 2013. egypt, resetting itself democratically in relatively peaceful way. tunisia, continued movement toward democratic processes.
oh, and iran. goin' bettor than anyone woulda thought back on aug 26, 2013. except of course, iran wasn't even a topic then.
but hey,
just my opinion of the facts.
:)
I guess a Chicago Thug is dumber than an Al-Qaeda idiot!
Send Obama back to Chcago!