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Critical Obamacare Data Center Crashes On Sunday
If Churchill were alive today, he would probably characterize the rollout of Obamacare as a humiliation, wrapped in an embarrassment, inside a mockery-punching bag injury. And overnight, in addition to all the other well-known gremlins that have plagued America's socialized healthcare from Day 1, insult was added injury, following a Reuters report that a "data center critical for allowing uninsured Americans to buy health coverage under President Barack Obama's healthcare law went down on Sunday, halting online enrollment for all 50 states."
In other words, on top of and in addition to all the other bad coding and website processing issues that have been exposed and promptly scapegoated on other (you see Obama knew all about the successes, but nothing about the failures of Obamacare), now the internet itself is starting to glitch up. Which is hardly surprising considering Al Gore's involvement in the latter.
More from Reuters:
The data center operated by Verizon's Terremark experienced a connectivity issue that caused it to shut down, affecting the federal government's already problem-plagued online marketplace Healthcare.gov and similar sites operated by 14 states and the District of Columbia, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
Obama administration and company officials could not say how long it would take to fix the connectivity problem.
The outage that started in the early hours of Sunday caused the data center to lose network connectivity with the federal government's data services hub, an electronic traffic roundabout that links the online health insurance marketplaces with numerous federal agencies and can verify people's identity, citizenship, and other facts.
Without the hub, consumers are unable to apply online for coverage or determine their eligibility for federal subsidies to help pay for insurance premiums. On Saturday, Sebelius praised the hub's ability to perform complex calculations in quick time as an example of a successful segment of the system.
HHS spokeswoman Joanne Peters said Sebelius spoke with Verizon's chief executive officer on Sunday afternoon to discuss the situation: "They committed to fixing the problem as soon as possible."
The outage was affecting enrollment in all 50 states, as well as Terremark customers not connected with the marketplaces, according to the HHS spokeswoman. She said the data center's network connectivity went down during planned maintenance to replace a failed networking component.
A spokesman for Verizon said the problem would be fixed "as soon as possible." "Our engineers have been working with HHS and other technology companies to identify and address the root cause of the issue," Verizon spokesman Jeff Nelson said.
Putting this in context:
The administration has expressed confidence it can fix underlying problems with Healthcare.gov by early December, in time for people to meet a December 15 deadline to enroll in new health plans to receive benefits on January 1. Further delays would jeopardize its ability to enroll as many as 7 million Americans for coverage during Obamacare's first year.
Whether or not Verizon fixes the glitch any time soon, or merely lets it linger, one thing is becoming obvious: the Obamacare delay, which was hard fought by the Teaparty, and which was so opposed by the administration leading to the grotesque 16 day government shutdown, has all but become a reality with every passing day. Only instead of someone actually taking responsibility, said delay will be scapegoated on Verizon's data centers, faulty fiber-optic and copper cables, Cisco switches, Syrian hackers, millions of lines of faulty (Fortran?) code, inept contractors, end users who never read the Help.doc file, and everyone and everything else. Just never the government itself.
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This is too funny! Obamacare is so screwed. And those Federal Subsidies aren't legal as they're not part of the ACA as passed.
And hey, I know Fortran! I'll fix it for em!
It's lucky it just crashed and didn't get hit by a lightning bolt.
And hey, I know Fortran!
If they decide to upgrade...I'm sure they'll give you a call.
The innocent will be punished and the guilty will be promoted. Winning Cloward-Piven style.
Computer's Golden Rule: "Garbage in = Garbage out" sans 5000 monkeys on keyboards syndrome.
Can you hear me NOW!
<<<halting online enrollment for all 50 states>>>
I thought they were 57 states!
Waaaaaaaaay too many moving parts. Entropy owns them.
Glitches, bitchez!
Before it's all over they will take the system down and frame 'tea party hackers'.
Another reason for the ES ramp this morning.
Now they can blame missing the Dec target on more glitches beyong their control, likely caused by Repubs.
I'm sure the 6 people trying to enroll were incredibly upset.
Can you hear me NOW!
Yes.....I can hear you.....now.
It's a miracle.....what a glorious transformation!
It just got MUCH worse!! Gunbroker.com is crashing now too!
Now that's really cruel.
So Xerox takes down the EBT system during "routine maintenance" and now Verizon takes down heathcare.gov during "routine maintenance"?
I see the solution here: stop doing routine maintenance.
Fortran?..
Aha! They can blame it on hanging chads.
this looks like a takedown to me. some hacker group saying hi. just wait till all the identity theft coming gets traced back to this
I wonder if they didn't open a back door to all the IRS records.
Wait for the drill on the power grid.
Yup, after all that plan seemed to work well for the folks at Fukushima Nuclear.
...ok, is next thursday good? ok, have someone there between 8 am to 7 pm...
Dear Tyler
Please lose the photo of the Commodore 64. Computers from that era were BULLET PROOF and RELIABLE! In fact, more than once I have resorted to using my 25 year old computer when my five year old computer was having problems. I've even resorted to using a 25 year old printer when the 5 year old printer has had problems. Yes, I had to run a few pages through it before the ink was wet again, but IT WORKED! I would bet that the old parts of the Obamacare computer system work fine.
My first suspicion with any modern computer problem would be WINDOWS 8. That should be the mascot for any modern computer malfunctions. The system is probably paused while it downloads some "vital updates". Should be up and running again in a week or two, depending on what the AV software is thinking at the time. Or maybe something in the settings is wrong and the modem hangs up after every transfer of data ...
Kind regards
PT
10 print " dial 1-800-fuck-yo(u) for plan rates"
20 goto 10
run
it would be funny if it wasn't true.
even the internet doesnt want obamacare
or:
the net has become self aware and will no longer tolerate the activities of a government that spies on everything
Oh no! That's the problem!! THE OBAMACARE WEB SITE SYSTEM IS REALLY SKYNET TRYING TO TAKE OVER EVERYTHING!
Either that or it's really HAL 9000 gone bonkers again.
Fuck, I loved to play Decatlons on Commodore 64 back in late eighties, everything was fine then
A Sinclair in the seventies.
does this mean computers have feelings? if so, good... now i can hurt them
This is a case for MyCleanPC.com!
We need CleanTheWhiteHouse.com
They should try turning it off and then on again.
What the fuck is PC load letter?
Oooh, somebody has a case of the Monday's!
Kick it a few times and push the refund button.
Then run the paper tape boot loader through it again and check the that the bit lights are sequencing correctly.
Please stop mentioning the word "Fortran", as it brings back some really, really, really bad college memories.
No dude... COBOL is the real nightmare language. Aggghh.
And you haven't seen the worst of em all.... Ada! AHHHHHHHH!!!
"New technologies will come and go but COBOL is forever." -Abstruse Goose
Pascal. FORTRAN was sorta concise, COBOL made me feel like I was reading a description of a program, but Pascal? It feels like a dumbed down version of the above without any niceties in syntax. OK, ADA was a little anal, but Pascal was janky. Assembler, that actually made me like computers for some reason.
If you don't care about execution times but want to write the code quickly, use BASIC. If you want fast execution times, use machine code.
Okay, okay, yes these days I am forever grateful for the ability to create types, pass parameters and name subroutines.
But all the problems I have could be solved with machine code and a decent firmware guide.
And any compatability problems have been totally offset by incompatabilities in different versions of modern languages ...
If you really want to kick a few programming languages in the gonads try Jovial or its twin CMS2.
I remember being a freshman at the University of Arizona in the 80s. I had a problem with a simple Fortran program in my freshman Fortran class. Neither the TA nor the professor could understand why the program wouldn't work, because the logic was just fine. They sent me to the "tech support" building.
I looked up the hours, and it was open 8-9 am on Tuesdays/Thursdays or something ridiculous like that. (Welcome to the U of A. It was cheap but you get what you pay for.) So I rolled up on there about 7:45 to find a line literally around the building. Seeing how the game was played, I arrived on Thursday before 7 am and got a reasonable spot in line.
About 7:30 I got up to the counter and started to explain the problem to a dude who looked like Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. Pre-Simpsons. He glanced at my code, and flipped through an enormous 4-foot-thick binder mounted on two long metal rails (like the auto parts catalog at Napa). Within 10 seconds he found a particular page, jabbed his finger at a particular line, and dripping with contempt told me "it's a known bug in Fortran IV that if you put a period in the eleventh column of the fourth line your program won't compile." As if I, a 17 year old beginner, was supposed to have known that.
I passed that class and then never coded again. One of the smartest things I ever did.
I remember being a freshman at the University of Arizona in the 80s. ... "it's a known bug in Fortran IV that if you put a period in the eleventh column of the fourth line your program won't compile." As if I, a 17 year old beginner, was supposed to have known that. I passed that class and then never coded again. One of the smartest things I ever did.
Baloney. FORTRAN IV was frozen in 1974:
http://www.fh-jena.de/~kleine/history/languages/GC28-6515-10-FORTRAN-IV-Language.pdf
By the 1980s such an obvious bug would have been fixed at least ten years prior.
Maybe it was fixed, but that doesn't mean his school got an update. Back in the day, your computer didn't automatically install every code update. And when I took Fortran in 1987 in high school, it was still ver. 4 that we used in addition to something called 99.
My Fortran professor was a drop dead gorgeous woman from India. But boy did her armpits smell to high heaven. I could tell she was near when it started smelling like Campbell's soup...
soup is Good Food!
Obamacare: The Hidden Agenda
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=383
I had a Commodore 64 when I was a kid. Unlike O'bomb-acare, it actually worked as advertised.
True true true! See my post above.
well isn't that Special!
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-...
http://koosjansen.blogspot.nl/2013/10/central-banks-bullish-on-gold-at-l...
The legislation only passed because Obama lied about the provisions to start with. No, you don't get to keep your own doctor. No, you don't get to keep your provider. Yes, your taxes (fees) do go up if you make under 250K.
What part of this Obamacare has turned out the way it was presented? So even the dolts that supported this program are getting screwed and THAT is the only silver lining in this whole debacle. It is about time some of the FSA start taking it in the shitter for voting for people dedicated to robbing taxpayers to fund their lifestyle.
Clueless Starbucks latte-sipping dolts need to feel pain, a lot of it, before they turn on their Messiah. Until then, it's all the Republican's fault.
David Burge @iowahawkblog 20h
"Maybe Obama could have practiced by first trying to build a bird house or something."
Well since we have 57 states, at least a few are working
The developers should have used Ruby, as it would have stayed on the Rails.
"Obamacare is so screwed."
Excellent proofs of exactly that:
How Badly Will ObamaCare Screw You? Answers Here!
http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225369
Here It Comes (ObamaCare ALREADY Detonating)
http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225427
Two Other GIGANTIC "Screw You" Parts Of Obamacare
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225462
Canadian officials fired IT firm behind troubled Obamacare website
http://washingtonexaminer.com/canadian-officials-fired-it-firm-behind-troubled-obamacare-website/article/2537101
"Canadian provincial health officials last year fired the parent company of CGI Federal, the prime contractor for the problem-plagued Obamacare health exchange websites, the Washington Examiner has learned.
CGI Federal’s parent company, Montreal-based CGI Group, was officially terminated in September 2012 by an Ontario government health agency after the firm missed three years of deadlines and failed to deliver the province’s flagship online medical registry."
Have Obamacare and have a medical problem outside your local and very limited network, like in another state? Too bad, you pay 100% of the medical expenses! Sorry, they forgot to mention that. Unf'ing believable...
Out-of-network not an option in individual ObamaCare plans
"A Manhattan businessman who signed up at healthbenefitexchange.ny.gov said he was stunned to learn that not one insurer offered out-of-network coverage even in the top-tier Platinum plans that run more than $600 a month.
This is absolutely terrible, said the small-business owner, who requested anonymity out of fear of retribution. This is an absolute fraud. Basically if you want to go out of network, you pay through the nose. You're screwed.
We do not offer out-of-network coverage for individual plans on the New York marketplace or for individual plans of exchange, said United HealthCare spokeswoman Maria Gordon Shydlo."
http://nypost.com/2013/10/23/out-of-network-not-an-option-in-individual-obamacare-plans/
If those young kids can't pay up, it will mess up his recovery plans.
That is exactly what is going to happen. Again, all of those imagined revenue streams drempt up by gov't and big business will fail to materialize, then its everyone else's fault, not theirs.
They are having a hard enough time paying off their student loans while living for free in their parent's basements.
"If those young kids can't pay up, it will mess up his recovery plans."
Most of them can't. Worse than affecting any phony "recovery," its failure will end up totally screwing up for possibly years the entire healthcare payment system in the US and bankrupt state budgets before it does fail (and it will):
How Badly Will ObamaCare Screw You? Answers Here!
http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225369
Here It Comes (ObamaCare ALREADY Detonating)
http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225427
This should be obvious to everyone by Nov. 2014 at which point the kids who are the core of the Dem constituency will NOT be voting Dem since by then theyll have found out how much they'll be required to pay in either premiums or fines and the Rep strategy to fight Obamacare all along suspecting or knowing it would be a monstrous fiasco is going to appear to be the smart politcial move it probably was.
Sad part, is FOLKS cannot even find out if they are elgible for subsidy credits, and their current plans are ALREADY notifying them they will cancel their existing plans in 2014.
Prems are going up 5-15x's current plan rates.
Hallelujah
Bullish VZ
wait until the subsidies begin outweighing the aggregate cost. then its ....CANADA!!!
LEGAL........... never enters the mind of any involved here. I'm considering getting rid of my cell phone. I'm thinking of returning to snail mail for communiccation with family and friends
Yea, we don't need no stinkin 21st century people.
get a pre paid to call triple A in case you get a flat....
i'm already on snail mail with email reserved for sarcasm and cat pictures
don't forget about the animated GIFs of dudes getting whacked in the nads. That's always comic gold.
LOL : http://youtu.be/r_4jrMwvZ2A
Obama can't get rid of Sebelius.
She is his human shield for criticism.
I always get Sebelius mixed up with Lagarde.....those sick twisted power bitches all look the same to me.
I am from the government and I am here to help you...whether you like it or not...
I am from the government and I am her to help (myself to) you(r wealth).
It's nothing another $Billion can't fix !
Get Cuba to run it...sounds like it's too complex for Drone Jockeys to master
Yeah. Cuba and Europe do socialism much better than we do. They've at least had more practice.
Cuban healthcare really worked out well for Hugo Chavez, didn't it?
Mycotoxins?
Look beyond the obvious. The USSA wants VZ's oil.
At least if Obamacare doesn't work Americans have the consolation that their Internet and Telephone Metadata is being recorded.
I wonder how many of those 9/11 telephone calls were logged at the NSA ?
Just start over and code the whole thing in COBOL or MUMPS.
Ask Larry Ellision for help. He will slay any bugs with his epic samurai sword, or bomb them with his fighter jet.
One thing for sure, you could probably do the whole thing in three lines of Perl.
If this is any indication of how NSA is run, anyone that was worried about being spied upon can stop worrying now.
That's what I keep saying.
"Relax, it's a Govt program. A bucket (tanker ship) of fail."
Get the Sham-Wow guy on it! He can pitch this pig...
You're gonna love his nuts.....offer not valid to Florida prostitutes.
It's a matter of time before the sabotage card is rolled out.
That will be ridiculed ofc.
The irony?
It's more probable than most think.
quss13, I hope they try it. Try flushing that turd about now with the mood in the U.S. just about starting to permanently roll over on these gangsters.
As with any new program, you have to expect a few glitches.
I object to the use of the Commadore 64 image in connection with this!
Tandy TRS-80?
When the Obamasnare site works better than Archon chess, we'll revisit that.
Agreed. I posted the defence up above.
Just wait until you have fallen and can't get up.....you ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to Zerocare
Across the west, the "systems" are closing their doors. If you are left outside by choice (don't want fiat?) or accident (don't have enough/too poor to pay and cannot now regularise your position) you are screwed. 10,000 pa needs 1m on deposit with those who you KNOW are going to steal it and cheat you. The only way through for the "middle class" is to find a way to remain in the system, or a way to get back in if previously outside. Bernanke is happy to print up whatever it takes to provide the requisite income for you - you simply need to get included in the right categories of the systematic fraud. However, do not despair if you miss the Obamacare deadline - your kindly administration will be expertly pretending and extending even that come the end of December.
Crane the bankers. Hell - crane the administration as well.
Close enough for government work. Hahahahahahaha!
That will be 600 million dollars please.
Just wait until you actually have to file a claim. We're really going to enjoy screwing with you!
And the sheeple will enjoy being royally screwed by his Majesty, King Obama.
Said the goat herder to the sheep herder.
The fact you even have to file a "claim" while calling it "care" is nonsense.
Care is paid for, claims are easily denied.
In Canada there's no such thing as "applying for a claim" or being "denied".
You show up, get your care, it's billed in accordance to the health card number. That's that.
Churchill was strong on words, weak on principles. He cleaned up by insider trading with Bernard Baruch, and clearly demonstrated a moral compass whose north pointed wherever he said it did. Singing his praises without understanding his crimes is a little like admiring the Nobelising of Obama without looking at the drone attacks and so on.
+1
Churchill, one of the fathers of modern socialized medicine, is sitting up in his coffin and coming in his Bowker over Zero-care...
Such a good example of how the mainstream media is biased and influences opinion - this is not considered newsworthy so it is barely reported. If it were a Republican issue, it would get 24-7 coverage. "The data center shutdown - how it affects your children" would be plastered everywhere.
I must admit I am enjoying the news these days :)
This gargantuan clusterfuck is going to collapse under its own weight.
I am a bit miffed however; I spent fourteen anguished hours this weekend trying to download a form of application for my mother-in-law; who duly completed it in her native Old Church Slavonic Coptic script.
She had some trouble with the free abortion / condom sections.
I trust they will make allowances for diversity.
I hope she gets that trouble ironed out and has all the access she needs to both.
After all, it's her money. ;)
The good news is there are over 700 fake OB care sites up and running that are willing to steal your pesonal info. The one that doesn't work is the real site - should be easy to locate!
This is what you get when government contracts and government jobs are assigned through cronyism.
The contract went to the lowest bidder. And you can look up the bid process. Why do you think a Canadian firm would benifit from cronyism?
The CEO of the comapany was a buddy of Moochelle at Princeton.
Thank you!
Why would America want to employ some out of work locals?
The contract went to the CHOSEN non-bidder.
There WAS NO BID. NONE. No competition.
5 points just for the pic of Commodore 64
I don't see why the C64 must suffer the stench of Obamacare.
True-dat.
I never had turtle-draw crash on me like this bastard obamasnare site does.
"Pam Kehaly, president of Anthem Blue Cross in California, said she received a recent letter from a young woman complaining about a 50% rate hike related to the healthcare law.
"She said, 'I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,'" Kehaly said."
-- http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-77942344/
Reality is starting to hit those low information voters.
My generation. What can I say? Most are only now waking up to the world of politics. Yes, after voting for O twice, for the most part, only NOW do they pay any attention to politics. Thats how brainwashed Barack had 'us'. And because they have no knowledge of history, nor politics more than a few years back, they buy the garbage the MSM sells them about Republicans being the reason Obama can't "get anything done".
They will start to figure it out, but they sure look like they could use a hand. Be prepared for cognitive dissonance, and to be called a Republican.
Ok I think you are wrong. But I'm so happy to see you attack the program on the merits of the program and not on if the website works in the first month. Well done!
Everywhere you use the word 'merit' or 'achievement' the proper word is 'fuckup'
You need to re-learn English.
Somebody needs to go back, rearrange the punch cards and the website will work fine.
Nah, its gonna take 10,000 monkeys from India to rewrite this bitch.
how long until we hear TOTUS blaming Obamacare glitches on Bush?
If Algore hadn't invented the internet we wouldn't be having these problems.
At least he invented Global Warming to make up for it.
If its this much trouble to try to buy it, just think how bad it will be to try to use it.
How can the two possibly be connected! Be a hater but don't be an idiot. The programming job done by CGI can not have any bearing on the the ability of the doctor you have seen all your life giving you a check up. Not will it make it harder for you to print your insurance number on his form. Just attack the legislation if that is your bent. Look at the flip side, once the website is fixed will you say that Obamacare is fixed or fixable? NO? Then what is your point?
Careful now, you might confuse everybody! They're already struggling mightily to understand that private sector contractors, immaculately-concieved saints and geniuses all, bungled a simple website. Why, if you start asking questions on top of that, the entire country's just going to shut down.
The website is only the simplest part of this gargantuous system, and they can't even get that right. If you can't operate the website, then you can't handle all the other portions necessary to fulfill the impossible promises made about the rainbow-shitting unicorn.
Why? That's on the private sector end. You know, the magical happy land where everything is always perfect because money.
30 IBM PS-1's linked together can be tricking sometimes.
."I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it"
The crux of the MFing biscuit right there.
This failing empire shit can be humorous.
Everything about Obongo's administration is mediocre. He's our first Affirmative Action president and probably the last! Eric Holder should be in prison!
Not to be a contrarian dickhead, but I think Bush was the first attention deficiet affirmative action (ADAA) president.
Seeing the need to elect a FULL RETARD to be POTUS the American people didn't learn their lesson and doubled down on their bet in 2008 [HOPE]ing for a little [CHANGE].
But, as it always happens, since 2000 all we did was elect Dumb and Dumber.
Being especially dense, in 2016 America will probably elect Hitlery finalizing the comedy team of Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest.
If Hitlery gets elected, expect ugly to break out all over.
So the site crashes and what, two people can't enroll? ROFLMAO if only to keep from crying.
Fear not. The most intelligent man ever to be our Leader will take personal charge. He's almost omniscient, except when it comes to NSA listening to foreign leaders' calls, or in this minor matter. He has discovered that Bush met secretly with Emmanuel Goldstein.
I know Fortran too. I have not used it in 15 years, but they will not know. I am ready to write subroutines. I will only charge the government $295/hour. That is probably a bargain compared to what they are paying.
They way it works is they send an invoice for $295/hour while hiring an H-1B monkey from India to rewrite the code in Tcl/Tck while only paying said monkey $15/hour.
No Americans need apply.
Anyway, you're already happily employed elsewhere working part-time flippin' burgers and busing tables.
Why would you need a job hashing code for .gov?
Join the FSA and earn benefits and subsidies today. Couch and Xbox not included.
THIS year.
Next year couch & xbox WILL be included.
But you're likely not a buddy of the Obamas...so no job for you!
All Obamacode must be in Fortran or COBOL.
BTW, actually the Obamacare problems are all my fault.
It is comical that the morons point to the "Data Hub" as something that is working well and evidence of success. It is the poster child for how fucked up the system they designed is. It is a fucking ROUTER! "Officials described the data hub as a network of secure servers that route information." As if DNS wasn't good enough for them. So Healthcare.gov collects a shit ton of data, packs it up into a message and sends it to the "data hub" as one big stinking turd. It should have sent smaller messages directly to the relevant system, when needed, received a response, and moved on. Shitty architecture (centralized "exchange") for a shitty idea ".gov mandated health plans results in shitty performance. What a surprise.
As someone who builds systems I can tell you that connecting up the legacy systems of multiple states into a single seamless unit is a big deal. Each has their own metadata, their own business logic and written on god knows what language. Until you have a couple CORBA projects under your belt you should hold off posting comments on the relative merits of the achievement.
"Relative" to what? Doing nothing would be a better, and cheaper, achievement
The data hubd statments were simply looking at a part of teh system that was working well. The poster said that this was an easy part that anyone could do. All I was saying was relative to many other technical work getting this done well was not easy and on a techincal yard stick should be graded high.
relative to many other technical work getting this done well was not easy...
3 years and 600,000,000frn worth of "not easy"? Unforunately this initial 600M is just the seed corn, there's no telling what the total crop will cost relative to the pitiful harvest it provides.
It's not an "achievement" unless it works. It doesn't work, therefore it is not a relative achievement.
fail AGAIN. Was NOT working well.
That's the point: that part & every part failed that was said to be "working well"
Curious to know if Doug_Canada has any ties with the company owned by Moochelle's college bud.
You fuckin' IDIOT.
Clearly the problem is they hired only people to do this work who had never done it before.
The irony of your spewed nonsense & what happened is lost on you.