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Second Tesla Goes Down In Flames Following Mexico City Crash
The last time a Tesla Model S struck an object in the road and burst into flames, it resulted in a rather dramatic stock price demise and a hastily put together PR blitz explaining that "there is nothing to see here, move along." We wondered at the time how soon we would hear the second 'crackle' of battery packs exploding and sure enough, less than a month later, Jalopnik reports (as the clip below shows) another Tesla Model S has caught fire in a Mexico city following a crash. How many Fiskers went up in flames before people started doubting that company's reassurances?
Onlookers caught video of the fire and subsequent explosions that occurred after the crash. Towards the end it shows firefighters working to extinguish the blaze.
And some color from Jalopnik voia the Tesla spokesperson:
“We were able to contact the driver quickly and are pleased that he is safe. This was a significant accident where the car was traveling at such a high speed that it smashed through a concrete wall and then hit a large tree, yet the driver walked away from the car with no permanent injury. He is appreciative of the safety and performance of the car and has asked if we can expedite delivery of his next Model S.”
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Right cause GM and Toyota cars NEVER catch on fire either...
You know that was really a hit-man working for the Mexican Cartel that was taking out an government informant.
Texting.
never realized the resemblance
Pinto 1970 commercial
http://youtu.be/rX-Zk_LNZWg?t=20s
The driver's girlfriend was getting pissed off, so she told him to; "put your finger in this"
With all the juice going through his body, the driver was dead 10 seconds before he hit the pole.
has .gov got tracking boxes in these pieces of shit too?
will all cars have the ability to detonate like this once they have .gov tracking boxes?
is this simply another form of lojack?
Here is the trade. Sell puts and buy a tesla S. Then crash the car and the stock.
It was in Mexico so doesnt count. BTFD
WARNING!!!! Thread filled with snarky people with no clue about lithium.
Enter at own risk.
Meanwhile....
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17fuzpojfrbcjjpg/ku-medium.jpg
Take your pick.. https://www.google.com/search?q=car+fire&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Yq5uUvKwE9Wj4API9ICACQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1283&bih=734
Auto El Carbon!
I remember when the Porsche 914s were catching fire. Didn't stop anyone from wanting a Porsche.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914-914-6-technical-forum/3744-any-fires-due-plastic-fuel-lines.html
Are they guaranteed not to burn from a crash..??
If a Tesla crashed and didn't burn, would it be worth mentioning..??
I guess they'd need tongs and oven mits to get an injured person out...
Park Ave Flasher wonders aloud, how does one achieve the kind of velocity physically required to crash that big an automobile through two concrete walls while coasting around a roundabout? Methinks we have a spontaneous and unpredictable control problem, Houston.
I don't think you understand options.
Or options.
Buy puts, yes.
Sell calls, yes.
Short Tesla, yes.
Sell whatever Tesla shares you have, yes.
Sell puts???? WTF??? Are you crazy?
Bumper sticker for the rear of Pinto's:
Hit me and we BOTH die.
Did you see the release date of the Pinto, 9-11...
Seriously!! Ask Micheal Hastings about that, oh ya he died in a crash and explosion of fire!
Ford s150 trucks had 150+ rear impact exposions, killing dozens and dozens of people over a decade before, they "admitted" they had a problem with wiring and fixed it! I see a blazing gasoline car on the side of a CA freeway once a week or more, WTF does this have to do with shit?
Unless the point is Electric Cars aren't safe to drive? Which is utter and total bullshit, we have one, I know two other people that have Tesla's, there JUST as safe as any car out there, and safer then most!
You are serving out your time in traffic with the other 30,000,000 cars in California? That sucks.
I've seen more UFOs that electiric cars and seen more electirc cars than cars on fire alonside roads in CA, where I too live.
May your PG&E bill skyrocket.
California...?
And here i been seeing you as a Northwoodsman all along.
@fooshorter: "Right cause GM and Toyota cars NEVER catch on fire either..."
Ah, but GM and Toyota run on gas -- which supports the Petro-Dollar and our saintly Saudi "friends". An obvious difference few if any have pointed out.
Tesla = coal
Other Autos = petrodollar.
never, a gm or toyota contain no flammable materials
Good for another 13 to 15 ES points!
What?
Mr. Wallace will see you now.
Good prepper car. Can double as a firestarter.
It's also a good defensive mechanism if you live uphill. Just release the emergency brake and give it a push at those looters at the bottom, then BOOM, no more looters, and free barbecued meat for any other looters to come along.
Walking Teslas
I will say though, a pure electric car is a nice hedge, theoretically with solar panels you could be free from dependence upon liquid fuels or the power grid.
Sure, or you could get the solar panels, and a bicycle. Cheaper.
Nice bike son. Is that a Huffy?
shake and bake
" We were able to contact the driver quickly and are pleased that he is safe"
If that doesn't say everything about demand,I don't know what will. I don't recall being contacted by an auto manufacturer in any of my previous accidents checking to see if I was okay.
I got a postcard in the mail regarding the safety of the parking brake mechanism and should visit a dealer as soon as possible for a efficient fix. Does that count?
I had a car for 8 years once, bought brand new and never ever had something in the mail from the manufacturer or notification from the dealer and went to the web and found it had been recalled about 30 times.
Now that's service with a smile in our service economy
Tyler, sounds like you have a nice sized short position with Tesla with these gleeful posts.
If any car, gasoline or electric, smashes through a concrete wall and hits a tree, it's probalby going to either explode or catch fire.
That's not exactly news.
You know Tyler would NEVER post a derogitory article about a company for which he is short. That woule be an SEC violation.
I would direct you both to Zero Hedge's Conflicts policy:
http://www.zerohedge.com/node/13972
Pay particular attention to this statement:
"You should assume that at all times we are so totally just talking our book it would shock and awe you like the unexpected, early-morning arrival of a cluster of BGM-109C Tomahawks (were you a believer in the importance of "optics" that is)".
If only Congress had similar posted policies.
It is probably less about the actual money and a lot more about whistling past the graveyard.
And possibly warrant a visit by Mary Jo White.
That's right. He'd Tweet about it.
Before, or after the rocket hits it??
Sounds more like you're one of the dumbasses who are long this piece of shit with your $2K 401K at $175....
Oh, look there's another troll who probably doesn't understand half of what he/she reads on this site. The boards are overflowing with geniuses these days.
No, I don't own Tesla stock or most of the garbage trading on the exchanges right now.
I'm sitting still waiting for a major leg down, and own some PM's as a hedge. While I wait, I call it as I see it, and the quality of postings on this formerly great source has been falling.
Thanks for contributing to that.
"quality of postings on this formerly great source has been falling."
The % of quality posts has remained the same, the number of posts has increased, IMO.
I'll grant to a small extent some quality contributors have left, or aren't around as often as they used to be.
Wow- didn't realize there were style points available on this blog- thanks!
So.... You're short, yet whining that Tyler is trying to beating down the price of an over-inflated stock by reporting facts?
Genius.....
As for your plan- I've been in the biz for 27 years, and your plan is the same one that every other little white-haired woman that I've ever cold-called had- "wait and see" is an AWESOME strategy.
Here's what will happen-
You'll sit on your $2K until the absolute blow-off top on TSLA, and then you'll step up to buy, both hands.
Classic.
Oh, we've got an expert that's been in the biz for 27 years! Wow, do tell us how to allocate our investments efficiently.
You don't need to worry about my strategy, I've got plenty of other investments that produce real income that don't involve putting money into the stock market.
I don't own TESLA and I'm not short TESLA. I'm pointing out that this story doesn't add any real value or facts to the thesis that TESLA is overvalued. Normally, Tyler, makes very compelling arguments, this reeks of tabloid like headlining. It just seems a rather desperate attempt to find something, anything, else to push down the price. That's not why I started reading ZH a couple years ago.
There is certainly a case to be made that it's overvalued, but it's not overvalued because the battery issue represents some high risk hazard that the public/analysts hasn't cottoned onto yet, it is overvalued because the projections for the # of future unit sales are very very optimistic.
If you don't understand that, I'm not sure what you've been doing for 27 years.
LOL- you opened the door, Chester....
What "argument"- EXACTLY- has Tyler made in this? He merely pointed at a news event, as it's hitting all the wires today.
You clearly resent it, where NO ONE ELSE on this blog has-
What's your point? I see you have an opinion, which is both nonsensical and disingenuous at best, but I see no point.
Clearly, you DO have an interest in Tesla, or you wouldn't be so freaking old-woman sensitive about it.
Here's a tip- if you're gonna come on blogs like this and try to keep your 12 shares of TSLA from imploding, then at least try reading the blog for a few days, and pick up the general tone- clearly, you're looking for Morningstar, big hitter.
Quit being a pussy, and admit that you own this piece of shit- even in your supposed affirmation of overvaluation, you can't bring yourself to call it for what it is- a bubble stock.
Come out of the closet, sweetie- it's ok.
Oh, someone's getting excited. Alright, this little exchange is getting tedious. Once the CAPITAL letters are being used multiple times and the name calling begins, there's no point. It's like trying to have a debate with O'Reilly.
Yes, it's a bubble stock. It's a bubble market, genuis.
If I don't own the market at all because I think all valuations are overblown, why on earth would I own TESLA? Believe what you need to, if it helps you manage your "small short/long hedge" and good luck generating your returns once the Bernanke/Yellen put finally stops working. I'm sure you know just how to hedge for that.
Again, since you're not able to read carefully, I'm calling out Tyler on his tabloidlike headline grabbing on something that he clearly wants to drop, he's posted many other better pieces about TSLA...That's not what made ZH great reading when it began, and I've been following for a long time.
The description form Tesla looks over dramtic looking at the car. The pack got pierced yet again and up in flames it went, from what I can see
Well , now at least we know the S is for smoke.
Nothing like a good old fashion lithium fire. If only the frames were made of magnesium we would have the perfect 4th of July car !!!
And a new tool for the terrorists. Can you imagine what would happen if someone drove one of those into subway tunnel at rush hour?
I hear the new tunnels are going to be lined with Space Shuttle tiles !!!
Yes, and in a late cost-cutting measure the tiles will be replaced with Boron-treated plywood made in China that looks just like space shuttle heat tiles but cost 1/10th as much.
The resulting tunnel fire will burn for 3 years.
sure fooshorter ... they also have the same amount of cars on the road ... I wouldnt like to crash out there in the woods with that thing , you loose conciousness ten minutes and thats it , bye bye
How much of a CO2 footprint did that leave?
"He is appreciative of the safety and performance of the car and has asked if we can expedite delivery of his next Model S."
He'd be more appreciative if the car didn't threaten to barbecue him before he extricated himself from it.
Tesla model S meeting the rear end of a 1976 Ford Pinto, brown. Now that would be something I would pay to watch !!!
I did a business trip a few weeks back and I saw a Model S pull up next to me on the highway. I did a classic double take and then slowed wayyyy the fuck down. The guy behind me got pissed and flipped me off, but better flipped off than caught in the inferno, I always say.
Overreact much? I saw an airplane flying over my house so I ran to my bombshelter. Better to be a hysterical idiot than get crushed by a 757, I always say.
I saw a hairy guy scratching himself so I got me a body wax.
The Vietnamese lady said she was gonna keep the sticky pads for bath mats.
Or a Corsair on Firestone tires with Toyota floormats and Audi brake pedals.
Nope, Tesla wont get that treatment.
For $64,000, I would expect a great fireworks show...
Given how skillful Tesla's spokeman is in spinning these accidents into sales pitches, is it possible that these accidents is a marketing strategy based on free publicity? Maybe we should wait for Elon Musk's other death machine, the tube train which turns humans into mush at the first deviation from a perfectly straight trajectory, before deciding which of his inventions we want to die in.
New marketing theme: "The more crashes, the more lives that are saved! All of these people would be dead were it not that they were driving Teslas!" .
Bullish!
what happens when you put water on a lithium battery fire?
What kind of emissions do lithium battery fires emit?
Is Lithium radioactive?
No, but it will calm your ass down real good
drool
"Is Lithium radioactive?"
You're having a laugh, right? Otherwise the bold letters suggest a belief that anything ending in "ium" is probably radioactive; a breathtaking display of scientific illiteracy which brings to mind the results of this survey. You may be horrified to learn that just today you may have eaten foods containing sodium (chloride), grown in soil fertilized with potassium, in an atmosphere containing small amounts of helium, etc.
As for lithium itself, though, it's an interesting case: it happens that it's the only stable light element which can release energy through nuclear fission if bombarded with protons. And, while most naturally occurring lithium is lithium-7, there is also an isotope called lithium-6 which might come in handy if you were trying to build a hydrogen bomb. However, while lithium has a number of (short-lived) radioisotopes, lithium-7 and -6 are stable, and don't emit ionizing radiation.
They just need more circuit breakers/fuses to handle crash scenarios. no big deal really. cars can burn when they crash, gas cars included, duh. I guess where they may not be able to solve anything is situations where the battery cells themselves are smashed/compromised. they can install fuses between cells but even that cant solve the problem entirely in a bad crash. steel reinforcing the battery case would help but add weight/cost.
I keep telling you it’s the drivers who lose control and spontaneously burst into flames after their car runs out of charge and they get passed by a Hyundai.
Tesla drivers will be nicknamed Jerky from now on.
“We were able to contact the driver quickly and are pleased that he is safe. This was a significant accident where the car was traveling at such a high speed that it smashed through a concrete wall and then hit a large tree, yet the driver walked away from the car with no permanent injury. He is appreciative of the safety and performance of the car and has asked if we can expedite delivery of his next Model S.”
should someone maybe not just ask the driver to take it easy with ordering another car.
Driving at high speed through a wall and hitting a tree does not sound like competent driving to me.
Maybe a bit of exercise on a push bike would be better for him, and for the walls and trees, not to speak of animals and people, in his neighbourhood.
smashed through a concrete wall? LOL
Old news,
The crash occurred in the Yucatán city of Mérida. In news first broken in the English-speaking world by Axis of Oversteer this weekend, Mexican newspaper Progreso Hoy reported on Oct. 18 that the Tesla sped into a roundabout, struck a wall and then crashed into another wall in a private residence before hitting a tree.
Link from Jalopnik here:
http://jalopnik.com/another-tesla-model-s-caught-fire-after-a-crash-in-m...
If the Tesla is just a toy for the top 10%, and the toy bursts into flame regularly, perhaps these should be subsidized.
What better way to disburse the loot of the top 10% than by roasting them in Tesla's?
Auto creamation feature is no-charge.
It's not a glitch, it's a feature.
Their hot cars, really hot.
Maybe they should carry on-board fire extinguishers and give fire suits, helmets and boots with each purchase. Mandatory equipment for sitting in the car.
Muppet car consumer.
SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU ARE RUINING THE ECONOMY.
These stories are fucking awful. Stop reporting this shit. IRRESPONSIBLE.
I was in bed the other night with Alan Greenspan and Andrea Mitchell. She really is an attractive woman. She does this thing where as she's sucking your cock, her Jew nose hangs down and rubs your shaft. As she fellated me, I felt so nouveau, so establishment, so STATUS QUO.
"RUINING THE ECONOMY"
It started when the Big banks were bailed out, financial criminals were not prosecuted and the inefficiencies were allowed to go on.
You look around the San Francisco Bay Area and see that most of the Tesla S Models are rollin' here. The aloofness of these drivers make a prick in a BMW 750 look like Mother Teresa. Peak Tesla is here ZH'ers
hastings style cia drone kill strike.
the whistleblower survived honest only the car was hurt.
move along now nothing to eyes wide shut see here.
"As part of my new journalism law, all reporters will be required to drive Teslas."
thank you sir Tesla...may I have another!?
LOL
Economic plus - more firemen will be needed - unemployment goes down...
Now I know why those Teslas' are so overpriced, it's to make up for the revenue shortfall on the service and parts side of the business.
Tesla Shares Drop on Report of Second Model S Fire
http://www.thestreet.com/story/12085507/1/tesla-shares-drop-on-report-of-second-model-s-fire.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO
down 6 bucks/share to 163.50 and falling...
just thank the lord for small merciies.
that car driver could of been barry obarmy or even his gay son...
jesus lives
Maxine Waters 2016
Couldn't get any worse, folks....
Yeah it could.... Hillary and Michelle Omamma on the 2016 ticket..(the FSA will love that combo). Then after 8 years of that regime, Michelle will run for Presidente with some yet to be named
Black Pantherette on the ticket.
After that, it will be Chelsea and Malaka (or whatever the Obama daughter's name is). AND they will be married, so first lesbian couple ticket!
Forward!
Do the carbon credit calculations take into account flaming the car?
What's the idfference between a Pinto and Tesla? $60,000. Folks in Pintos weren't required by law to be buckled in. Carry a big accessible knife if you are riding in a Tesla. Elon may be able to recommend a good brand.
So taxpayer funded Teslas are burning up their wealthy drivers.
Karma.
Tesla- Keeping the flame alive.
Tesla- A burning desire.
Tesla-Feel the heat.
Tesla- The hottest car going.
Tesla- A hunk of burning love.
Mad Men got nothing on me.
You need an ignition source for a gasoline car to catch fire in an accident.
The Tesla battery is the ignition source for a fire in the two accidents.
There is a big difference there. Gasoline doesn't explode when impacted. Also a fire will start right away if there is an ignition source. When a lithium-ion battery pack is damaged, it might not catch fire right away. It might not catch fire until you get home and plug it in. You'll definitely lose your house if a Tesla catches fire in your garage.
Perhaps there IS nothing to see here. Has anyone asked if a journalist was driving?
made in drone kill usa usa.
the finest batteries in der world honest.
here at tesla we use only the finest boeing dreamliner airflare titanic batteries.
made by the hindenburg bang company.
Are those the same lithium batteries they used in the Boeing 787? Just asking.
That car packs some serious fire power!
This just in ..... Tesla announced that effective immediately, with every new car, they will include: wooden sticks, marshmellows, graham crackers and a chocolate bar.
... and a handy laminated card printed with the lyrics to "kumbaya"
¡Ay chingada!
Mercedes cars have been known to do the same thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OtBnaQlcpo
RLY no drones involved??
The guy in the video says it's a jetta, I bet if you showed people a tesla and a volt without badging most people would guess that the volt is the 100k car.
Say what you want about Tesla I still love that car.
Then go buy one. The bankers will loan to anyone with a pulse. And barack.gov will lower your taxes.
Suicide Level Unlock Status: Fail.
Try Again or Quit Game?
Tesla uses one of the more unstable Lithium battery chemistries. If they had chosen a slightly less energy dense (and more stable)chemistry such as LIFEPO4 they probably wouldn't be having these fires.
It's like half of you drive F150s. The Tesla is a great car. And yes I'd fly on a 787, in a few more years.