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White House To Stop Spying on Allies, Dianne Feinstein Promises
Continuing to play Obama like a fiddle, the Snowden revelations have done more to change US foreign policy in a few short months, than all laws passed since the advent of the Patriot Act. In the latest example of just this, moments ago, USA Today first and the WSJ and others subsequently, reported that according to Dianne Feinstein, chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee and an NSA supporter, the National Security Agency has stopped gathering intelligence on allied political leaders, a practice that has drawn global criticism. "The White House has informed me that collection on our allies will not continue, which I support," according to Feinstein. It was not immediately clear if this is an implicit admission that the White House actually did know about the NSA's spying on foreign leaders over the past decade, and lied about being unaware. Recall that Obama denied just this last night, but at this point the pit of lies is so deep, few actually care or are keeping track.
Ironically, in an attempt to redirect once again, Feinstein "criticized President Obama over reports he only recently learned about the monitoring that included German Chancellor Angela Merkel. "It is my understanding that President Obama was not aware Chancellor Merkel's communications were being collected since 2002," she said. "That is a big problem." Don't worry Dianne, he knew everything, but an autocrat-in-waiting has to lie do what an autocrat-in-waiting has to lie do.
From USA Today:
As a growing chorus of nations protest U.S. surveillance policies, Obama's spokesman said Monday that an ongoing review will address the concerns of allies.
The review of NSA programs is designed to insure that intelligence gathering protects "both the security of our citizens and our allies and the privacy concerns shared by Americans and citizens around the world," said White House press secretary Jay Carney.
Administration officials refused to comment on a report indicating that Obama learned only this year about a program that monitored the communications of foreign leaders -- a situation that wouldn't be particularly unusual, said an intelligence expert.
Paul Pillar, a former senior intelligence officer, said most presidents don't know about "the targeting decisions" made by their intelligence agencies.
"It would be a horrible drain on the president's time and attention," Pillar said.
So instead the president can focus all his time and energy on creating 40-ing websites and taking over the public healthcare system?
As reported earlier, Spain was the latest country to be exposed as having been the target of the NSA's extensive espionage (at a massive cost to US taxpayers), resulting in just the latest ambassadorial summoning. Which of course was merely more theater, set in motion merely to appease the locals.
Pillar said it's not the tactics themselves that create international friction as much as the fact that they have now been publicized.
"Not only do allies spy on each other all the time, allies know about it all the time," Pillar said.
Normally, he said, nations that discover surveillance from other countries would tighten their security procedures and not make "a public stink" about it.
But the news coverage – inspired by the Snowden revelations and fueled by outrage from their domestic constituents – forces leaders to confront the United States.
The issue is particularly sensitive in Germany, where memories of the nation's Cold War divisions remain fresh. That includes domestic spying by police forces in Communist-run East Germany – the native region of Chancellor Merkel, an outspoken critic of NSA tactics.
"Their history is speaking very loudly to them," said Heather Conley, senior fellow and director of the Europe Program with the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Conley and Pillar said intelligence agencies do gather information on each other, on items ranging from positions on trade negotiations to the political troubles of the targeted government.
The difference these days? "It's a public discussion," Conley said.
Precisely. Because the public has had enough of governments scheming behind their backs, always to the detriment of common people. And the person to thank for all of this is none other than Edward Snowden, who instead of being praised as a hero in his home country, has been forced into exile into the country that once upon a time was the "evil empire." How the times have changed in the despotic New Normal.
As for Feinstein's promise that the US will stop spying either on foreign leaders, or domestically, that is about as good as any other promise made by an insolvent empire, not only spying on everyone else - that is expected of everyone - but terrified of its own people and thus much more intent on isolating and silencing "all enemies domestic" - in full decline.
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What was that trollish-looking creature in the photo?
that was Dianne "say who you callin' a bitch?" Feinstein
Would you buy a used car from that person?
Would you buy a used Post Office from her husband?
Dianne Feinstein's Mother's Face:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-60MdqGCHEvA/Tl409JA3DuI/AAAAAAAAAC8/8e3Q4tDvrow/s640/Predator.jpg
are you certain that is her face?
The New Know Nothing party has emerged.
articles like this one all jump on the bandwagon that 'snowden is a more effective secretary of state than clinton and kerry' because of the changes underway in foreign relations
hooey
clinton and kerry could just as easily have released all that info
snowden just happened to do it first, that's all.
BHO '16!
Dear Canadians,
Thank the govt for keeping the citizens "safe."
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Bechtel corporation wants more of Feinstein govermint money in California.
Make that the Knew Nothing Now Party. What a lying sack of excrement. CCW Diane rides again.
Here's the real rub...if the NSA is collecting information, you know the insiders on Wall Street are getting (proverbially) cc'ed on the same info. And if they're getting recon on "world leaders" don't you know they're also getting similar intel on high ranking corporate officials. NSA fueled front running of sorts.
Her Mothers face seems to look like her twat too
She's one ugly motherf#$%ker!
I could watch that footage you have of Feinstein crawling around, for hours...
its amazing how they trade US assets among themselves - right or left - Trump got the Lex & 44th st PO from her husband in "preferred" bidding process - she gets paid for everything she does
This is the same hypocritical bitch who did everything she could...
To keep average citizens from being able to have guns...
And then it was found out she secretly carried a gun herself!
Kinda makes you wonder what the NSA/FBI dossier contains on the Wicked Witch of the West.
Probably has a photo of her in a three way with Hitlery, and the Wookie while Sotero watches, (he's just bi-curious.)
I, for one, do not believe this she-male freak of nature. My guess, she order even more spying.
It's really fucking great that they're supposedly not going to spy on our allies anymore.
Now when the fuck are they gonna stop spying on US???????????????????
I mean, isn't that kinda like the fucking point?
Well I think you should definately stop spying on your allies first. We might stop buying your shit.
"Would you buy a used car from that person?"
No but I would buy a used shoe from her. That kind of leather lasts forever.
Yeah, if you like being tied up and spanked with it.
I would like to raise two points.
First - What are the leaders of major countries thinking when they communicate over "cell phones"? Don't they have special Dick Tracy communicators that use top secret frequencies? They get what they deserve.
Second - Our media needs to go back to grammar school -- "The review of NSA programs is designed to insure that intelligence gathering protects "both the security of our citizens and our allies and the privacy concerns shared by Americans and citizens around the world," said White House press secretary Jay Carney."
"insure" So now these guys are getting into the insurance racket.
I think they meant to say "ensure."
Then again, it WAS USA Today.
Just our favorite Gooberment "East German's". Being of East German heritage, these types have a deep appreciation for control of the masses.
After Snowden revelations, we can all say "Ich bin ein Ossie".
We wear that T-shiort with pride.
One must presume an "ally" is one with Most Favored Nation status via WTO membership.
This includes Russia and China. So since they are allies, I guess we won't be tapping their phones.
There is no penaly for lying. Especially for politicians. Doubly so for creatures like Fienstein. Justice is found in other, messy ways.
"You have told me more lies, than the stars in the sky. You'll never get to heaven when you die."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfFmml2CFhg
Where's a damn drone when you need one?
FORWARD SOVIET!
Have you ever noticed that you never see Dianne Feinstein and the Dick Cheney in the room at the same time?
It's a War Criminal policy supported by both parties. Complicent in Crimes Aggainst Humanity & Crimes Agaist The American People. All the crimes of arming, funding & training of the exact same terror organization they the Crimjnal Federal Government claim to protect is from.
Then to add injury to insult the Crimjnal Executive in Chief changes the law to exonerate themselves of the Crimes. Complete Huburis, Bravado & Meglomainia.
LOL
Kudos for the Fight Club allusion
Barry was JUST about to disclose this on his own. Snowden's timing is inconsequential.
Imagine how bad Obama's thugs want to get Snowden.
Like every piece of criminal garbage, Frankenfeinstein expresses phony regret AFTER getting caught.
if a rapist was caught in the act and said "oops won't do it again" it wouldn't fly, if a child molester said "oops won't do it again" while in the act it wouldn't fly, nor should this. Criminals getting caught doing criminal things and then saying "we won't do it again" is not an adequate response in my reasoned opinion.
Indeed, so will the world impose sanctions?
Maybe a $40/barrel surcharge on oil imports to the US. The $40/barrel could be shared out equally to UN members. Anyone think that won't pass the UN?
US imports are 7 million bpd. That's a lot of cash to all the UN voters.
Reasoned opinions are so 20th Century.
The mad dash by The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicate to control the False Narratives, PsyOp via Psyche Warefare is so obvious now truly lifts the veil on The Totalitarian Authoritative Global Fascist Police State.
It truly has become The Matrix.
I'm constantly amazed at "the left" and their values these days.
Di-Fi is the epitome of the power elite. Married to a gazzillionaire and a Senator with the ability to block any law she deems unfit to her/their mind.
Yet, she deigns to inform the huddled masses below her, what a reporter to the masses really is. It must be structered to her/their benefit, no free-lancing ZH "reporting" will be tolerated in her future. And as chairwoman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, if she didn't know all, someone might ask...why?
Plus her constant preoccupation with banning this or enforcing that, makes me wonder...are there any real liberals left...on the left? ;-)
Calling this evil Zion-Nazi hag a liberal is the ultimate joke. She masquerades as a Liberal, but is the worst form of evil that is destroying this country. We still hear no explaination as to why all the NSA's raw recorded data is given to Israel with no conditions.
So, the "liberals" should do something about her.
If they're smart enough to create a simple website...
Oh, wait ;-)
Just so I can understand you, can you give me your definition of "liberal?"
What I see out of the Democrats with the Snowden/NSA revelations and also Obamacare is reminiscent of the Republicans during GWB's tenure. There is a profound lack of critical thinking among party faithful when their party is perceived to be "in control." They seem to think their interests will be served, when as ZH has made painfully clear, the only interests served in this system are those of the uber-wealthy.
Although I didn't down arrow you, I think the left/right, liberal/conservative dichotomies are no longer serving any useful purpose. Di-Fi is no more on the left than she is a liberal. Maybe this just demonstrates how far to the right the country has gone that someone as far right as Di-Fi, a warmongering, MIC worshiper, and otherwise parasite of the body politic in this country, is perceived to be a leftist liberal. At some point, one needs to pay attention to acts, and not names or party affiliations to determine where politicians lie (pun intended) on the political spectrum.
That said, one of the more encouraging signs I see here is that the right has gone so far right, and the left so far left, I think there is a meeting place on the other side of the center that has the possibility of changing the terms of the debate completely.
I'm surprised she can even speak with all the Bullshit in there.
http://marcfabersblog.blogspot.ca/
Ah, so spying on "allies" has been suspended - yet what of spying upon American citizens, hypocrite ?
If we're not our own government's allies, what does that make us? Enema's of the State.
See note above: China and Russia both have Most Favored Nation status via WTO -- so one presumes they are allies and are now immune to surveillance.
Obviously an agent of the Devil. When are they going to give Snowden a Nobel Peace Prize?
I think we need a new prize. Kissinger got a Nobel peace prize, and that guy is like Lucifer's right-hand man.
That is the dreaded Halloween Frankenfeinstein
And the Frankenfeinstein my friends is a creature made of PURE EVIL !
Oh goody-now he gets to spy on We the People without any distractions whatsoever.
Obummer Feinstein. BTW, what happened to the comment that Snowden made about Israel tapping into everything in the USA.? All of a sudden that has been buried. The fact is that letting another NATION free access to all of our information is ludicris and very dangerous.
Skeletor.
She's always reminded me of one of the women at the 'Hail Satan" party scene in the movie 'Rosemary's Baby'.
* after checking out the cast members I noticed that the movie was based on a novel by Ira Levin. Probably a memoir. In writing class don't they always teach you to write what you know?
** earlier today a Fed judge overturned a TX law that required abortion docs to have admitting privileges at the hospital where they're performing an abortion. (Abortionists get many free passes when it comes to laws that govern everyone else. For example, parental notification, notifying the police and children's services of statutory rape [where adults - often over 30 yrs old - claim to be the father of a 15 yr old's baby], giving drugs to minors [who can't go indoor tanning or get a tatoo without parental permission], transporting minors across state lines, custodial interference, etc., etc.).
Lubbock Planned Parenthood chairperson Beth Shapiro was downright giddy to hear that more innocent blood would be spilled in sacrifice to her tribal G*d). Why is it that those tribalists are ridicuoulsly over-represented when it comes founding and funding and heading pro-abortion groups? Must just be a cohencidence. Maybe even a Komencidence.
<blinders off>
Capture the flag. Capture the leadership. Capture the production. Capture the imagination and introduce the fear of the all-seeing eye into the populations of the world. Of course, the all-seeing eye would be God, who views the thoughts, intents, and actions of all men and holds them into account according to the LAW to which they've been exposed (and is their birthright). O-Be-Dient. No, froward, blasphemous, knowingly demonic entities are coming to know and await their deserved fates. So shall be judged really by themselves and the law upon which they've defiled themselves. All fall short, but many are gods unto themselves and hold themselves outside any imposition of law. We shall not be broken upon a cross of gold. We shall not be broken nor distorted from the object of our desire by any power supposing to be greater than we. "All the stars of heaven shall bow down before us, for WE are supreme."
So we have spying. So we have our personal natures intruded upon as other beings seek to capture and hold all the organized sentient doings of their planet's fellow inhabitants. And not in order to admire the virtuous parts, but in order to extend their extortion upon fellow man by any tainted doings to which scrutiny, they are exempt.
So we speak of history and of significant economic events and even tragedy of natural events leading to radioactive (and unseen) poisonings. Poisoning of free institutions, poisoning of good endeavour, poisoning of minds which might be directed to good and great. Poisoning to induce feeble fealty, sometimes unto death.
The timing of one of these events (tsunami, nuclear catastrophe) is uncanny, though. The triumvirate of USA, Japan, Germany (due to the military reorganizations of all those nations post WWII) is a study in itself. The defeated two, stripped of military defence, were directing their significant population's powers into production. Not by accident is Germany the lynchpin holding a leprous EU together. Not by accident is Japan (bereft of natural resource) such a has-been exporting powerhouse: See MacArthur's reorganization effort and establishment of constitution, land reform, and banking structure mirroring the USA. So the economic cooperative of the EU is pinned by the exorbitant skills, intelligence and production of Germany. The East is pinned by the Japanese satellite. (We shan't speak of the 1971 Nixon nix of the gold standard and rapprochement of China). The financial crises with two waves, 2000 Nasdaq and 2008 Everything Else including collassal state-sponsored fraud, revealed the global system of recent construction. Stepping back, 1913 Warburgs from Hamburg help set up Fed in USA, coincidentally and obviously without relationship 1914 began a "Great War" which devastated Europe. Tremendous debt accrued to other "disinterested" nations. Then a revolution in wealthy Russia. Tipped over by the Russo-Japanese weakening underwritten partially by a fantastic internationalist. 1917. The great upper continent to the East of that terrible conflict. Balance sheet wipeout. Complete accounting sheet do-over. 1929, 16 years from foundation, the great industrial powerhouse nation USA unaccountably tips everything over into a global recession. The poppy-eaters who took on too much debt reaching for "gain" found that debt could not be serviced. Someone, something, took over a vast swath of USA productive capacity. Intended? No certainly not. Transfer of thousands of independent lights of free enterprise over to some vast unknown "dark empire"? Surely not. 1929-1939. Interim years where blighted nations consolidated their "new world order". Click boots and salute, you slime. Another Great War. USA remarkably retooled, reordered, shifted to meet these attacks on "democracy and the rights of men". Lend-Lease. Marshall's great plan. Pawnshop for the world. "How can we help". Coincidentally China goes on a self destruction (make some fields fallow so that the next, next planting might be bountiful) and cleans house. SouthAsia goes into a copy-cat routine but a such small scale that they can host "wars" of small enough scale that they can stimulate economies without spill-over. Anyway, long=short. The latest financial crises or war by other means required that sufficient fear be generated that the unwashed crew of this RED OCTOBER warcraft be able to ingest the next formulations. Pure money printing, much sterilized, much not. Pretense of floating sovereign debt into a global market practically without trade-supplied surplus. How to mop up this call for liquidity by debt purchases without necessary surplus of global production? Fiat. USA massive expansion of sovereign debt to counteract the withdrawal by the tiny free-market remnant of its household economy. Not enough, not enough. Fukushima. Now Japan was terrifically indebted due to their usury roll over of decades before; however, how to nudge them into the global debt ponzi? Still commendable exporter. Still commendable industry, robust and delevered generally. Ah! Energy. Middle East and those Texas Tesoroans. 10 gallon hats and Keffiyah. Anglo-Semetic knitwork. Nationally impactive, horror-inducing (nearly as terroristic as huge skyscrapers falling unimpeded except Ma Nature wuz the culprit, not box-cutter madmen) AND requiring the suspension of all nuclear generated power. Where to source the gap in production? Ah-ha. LNG and Crude oil. Japan tips over into a structural and mortal death-spin as it goes over to the dark side of energy importation. The YEN and central bank? Can't settle energy in YEN, must settle in new Thalers, New Rome's hottest issuance. "Who's image and superscription impresses this coin? Caesar? Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's--and unto God that which is God's". No God on this dark chessboard. Japan enters into the INTERNATIONAL debt expansion to keep the roulette wheel spinning. Corrupt croupiers? Surely not. What Nasdaq bubbles of impossible computer/information companies could not deliver, what sponsored fraud of the entire globe's lands and structures could not provide, surely energy and sovereign bonds shall do. China announces, "the 2008 global crisis nullified our foreign purchases and international markets, we have turned inward, and to our near neighbors." Japan announces 2/2/2 while filling their occupied space with radioactives (real and imagined), USA pretends to put their bonds to the "severe scrutiny of the marketplace" while really purchasing them directly with the ruse of some impartial middlemen. Rock-ribbed realists under dominion must face their appointed destinies. They are not in driver's seats. And while their nominal leaders are buffoons without any memorable redeeming national policies and corruption, graft, and contemptuous failure, the "lessor", pitiable nations have Peter the great or energetic emporer types guiding the helm. A sorry state of affairs. Glad that I only know what I read in the (online) papers. http://j.people.com.cn/94476/206575/8434604.html http://j.people.com.cn/94476/8436173.html
this spy scandal will keep her busy and she will have less time to propose anti-gun legislation
If she didn't know they were doing it in the first place, how will she know if they stop?
Hold on here……..
Dianne Feinstein, chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee
So SHE knew….. but said nothing to Barry?
WTF! BRAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
What could George Carlin have done with this material?
LOL...good point. We promise to stop doing what we weren't doing.
We promise to stop doing it the way we were doing it before but will also continue until we get caught doing it a different way.
We also promise not to cum in their mouth.
Why work so hard? Just going to rename the project and rotate the superficial staff. Add 200% to the estimates and give yourself a raise. Dismissed.
"how will she know if they stop?"
They won't stop,....if you belive that they will you will belive anything.....
Oh wait, you have, and for long years........where ignorance is bliss tis folly to be wise....and brought to a fine art in the land of the free.
Fuck Diane Feinstein. Fascistic cunt.
Ya (in a vacuum).
She has deepening stress lines showing through despite so many face lifts. It's a dead giveaway that the host/symbiont relationship is failing. She will need a new host body within a few years which means the end of her carreer. The world is not ready for her to show up in Miley Cyrus's body and claim she's still the same Di-Di. Those of us in Cali will rejoice because we will only have the Boxer creature until the newest reptilian gets elected. We can always hope they pick one that's easier on the eyes.
Wonder whether Boxer would consider using her maiden name (Levy) to make her true allegiance more transparent to those still wearing blinders.
Any relation to Gus Levy, former head of Goldman Sachs who pioneered the muppet trade by off-loading Penn Central stock to his customers?
Botox only goes so far.
Data Mining by The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicates ultimate tool in Total Complete Full Spectrum Global Domination. Control via Depopulation is the goal.
Actually she is an Imperial Zionist. How these creepy people think they are "gods gift" is beyond me, but the fact us "whitey's" (hell and everyone else) have gone to battelfields to for them to "bring them here" while they then later start wars, but NEVER send their Son's and Daughter's to fight...is beyond me. If you think I am making this up FUCK YOU!
Yet when it comes to war flicks Hollywood doesn't often fail to include one in every portrayed platoon or unit. Gotta maintain that false illusion. ("Hey, we're just one of the guys (or is that goys?)") Ask anyone who's served how many they saw in the ranks.
Dianne Feinstein promises...
OK, we can stop reading right there. Maybe she will have James Clapper testify before her committee and *also* promise the NSA won't spy on our allies, or collect domestic phone calls any more or -
ALL these people should be tried and convicted for Treason for attempting to overthrow the Constitutional Republic.
Hey, I know. Let's roll out a lizard like Blue Team player to say she's mad that O didn't know about the spying. That'll change the whole debate into whether the President should know more about the spying, rather than people talking about the fact that, 1) he did know, and 2) that we shouldn't be spying.
Make it so, Number One. Engage the lizard, release the Feinkraken.
"That'll change the whole debate into whether the President should know more about the spying, rather than people talking about the fact that, 1) he did know, and 2) that we shouldn't be spying."
There are only one of two POSSIBLE realities that is true of all of this and ONLY two.
i. Obama has absolutely no control over his administration and is grossly incompetent and (or) negligent in fulfilling his duties as President.
ii. He lied flat out and he retains the attributes of a sociological and megalomanical monarch or dictator.
That's it. No other conclusions can be drawn from this situation.
I'm going with both i and ii.
There are only one of two POSSIBLE realities that is true of all this and ONLY two.
Sorry ....... BOTH answers are correct.
Obama has absolutely no control over his administration and is grossly incompetent and He lied flat out and he retains the attributes of a sociological and megalomanical monarch or dictator.
Re: Obama has absolutely no control over his administration and is grossly incompetent and He lied flat out and he retains the attributes of a sociological and megalomanical monarch or dictator.
Or, he's just doing what Cheney would do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwGShPS0YhY
Hurry Fukushima, get this bitch.
It's radiation that created Feinzilla in the first place. It feeds on radiation.
Diane Feinstein looks completely batshit insane. Acts it too.
Im sorry, but if anyone actually trusts someone that ugly... I mean, you have to be stupid... a face like that has to lie to survive.
She fucking looks like a man, a deformed man.
Kinda has a little bit of that silvester stalone chin and eye droop going too.
I suspect many of these bulldykes abuse steroids and other male hormones for the adrenal rush and sense of power it gives them.
I just imagined Feinstein and Yellen in a lesbian scissor. Nice knowing you guys.
Can you stab yourself in your mind's eye?
I don't think you can do it to yourself, but looking at that, it feels like it can happen.
Doubtful she's even human.
there is actually some truth in that. there are ways for ugly people to look maybe not 'attractive' but not look repulsive in attempting too hard to be attractive. there is a term for that. it's called 'self-confidence'. she doesn't have it. probably never did, never will. so to make up for it, she needs 'power'.
we don't need power mongering people in our government. we need honesty and integrity and hard work. golf for the retired.
Obama:"Althoguh I didn't authorize the spying in the first place, since these decisions are performed by low level staffers, I assure you the low level staffers agreed to not do it anymore..."
if chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee is lying, it' ok. She is politician after all but if she is clueless that's the problem.
How can we trust to oversee those programs by incompetant people.
I guess NSA will be mroe carefull, nobody is going to give up the advantage. Every1 is spying and will continue to do it.
I believe them because they said so, and they have never lied before
Anyone that believes a word from this bitches' mouth deserves to win a night with Miley Cyrus and get syphilis.
When Miley Cyrus licks a hammer everyone oohs and aahs and thinks she is some sort of genius. When I do it I get asked to leave store usually with the threat of them calling the cops if I don't while people think I am insane.
And your point is what?
Hmmmm promises....
Right...
Theyve been there, done that,..
AND LIED again
if the NSA says they won't spy on our friends anymore, well that's good enough for me, darnit.
But one requirement.
First, they've got to turn over all their assault rfles to Feinstein. Then she'll stop, promise.
ZOG moll Feinstein. What about her ZOG contributors infiltrating our government at all levels, stealing our property, building databases on our citizens, assassinating Americans including attempts on congress, blowing up bombs including 9/11 and then suing for damages and leeching defense monies? Feinstein, you suck.
Tragically you have that bassackwards. It's their government. Goyvernment is an all but forgotten relic.
Cockroaches are always smaller when you shine a bright light on them. Undirected imagination can have that effect, and these punks milk it for all its worth. Payback is a bitch.
Did she say it's still ok to spy on the "citizens" tho?
The whole 'spying on world leaders' is bulshit.
They are all in it together and this is to stop 'joe public' from thinking he's been screwed over so badly 'because some prime ministers in Europe have been spied on"
They are all spying on their own people - it's Joe Public that's the target, to prevent protest and possible uprising.
I was born at night, but not last night.
Give me a break.
I'm sure now that Merkel will sleep better tonite after this statement from Fascistein! Dahh
too fucking late bitch. you cant unring a bell. say goodbye to us telcom and tech firms. oversea biz will get the new contracts and new inovations. the geek squad will move there to get the work keeping the fucking nsa at bay. fucking retards
That's right, and then there is this:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hacker-arrested-for-allegedly-infiltrating-u-s-government-systems
The U.S., by ignoring laws, common sense, and our own Constitution, is now identified as a criminal organization by many across the world....and we are fair game. Not that there were no hackers before, but now they have cred, and their numbers will probably grow dramatically.
Do unto others, and all that jazz.
Nothin' like looking at a wrinkled old lying cunt to feel reassured.
just sayin
What DiFi said publicly:
""The White House has informed me that collection on our allies will not continue, which I support,""
What DiFi said under her breath:
"And as far as we are concerned, we have no allies."
Dianne, Dianne. Funny how you made so much as a government employee. Say, you wouldn't call all those "honoraria" bribes, would you?
Oh, and what does your husband do for a living again? Oh yeah, and who just got the juicy contract to sell all those US Post offices?
Yeah, you'd just love to disarm us, wouldn't you.
By the way, how does a dual citizen get such a high security clearance?
Anyways, fuck yourself you communist traitor.
Re: Yeah, you'd just love to disarm us, wouldn't you.
So, Snowdon was a traitor after-all?
"The White House has informed me that collection on our allies will not continue, which I support,"
OK. But what about France and Germany?
I'm sure in the next election the Red and Blue Team will both be against any expansion of spying beyond that which is necessary to keep our slow-motion flags and eagles the strongest in the free world.
I'm sure the Red and Blue Team bullshit believing dumbasses will be happily fightly about which candidates looks more leaderly and which will make this great-n-glorious country great-n-glorous again.
The Red and Blue Team true beleiving dumbasses ensure we have the government we deserve.
These people are so dishonest.......why should we believe anything they say??????? People have spent a lifetime in jail for less.
"We agree to stop spying on allies!". (but everyone knows the list of allies is really, really short, wink Isreal).
Though she is ugly, I couldn't help but admire the shape of her skull.
It would make a nice decantor for some whiskey after we finally have had enough and start enforcing rule of law. I'd pay Mike Rowe to come out retirement and do one more Dirty Jobs episode that features an encore to that place the strips flesh off animal bones to use as teaching implements afterwards. She should never have even made it this far considering how much illegal government contract steering she is guilty of to her husband's various companies.
Spying = Collection
Anal Sex = ??
And WHO'S going to jail?? Oh no one. Then hang Feinstupid for treason.
As another of her kind once said, "What does it matter anyway"
as if anyone, ally or otherwise, would ever believe a word these people have to say.
that's one of the problems with lies: after awhile everyone assumes you have no truth--whatsoever.
I am awating the day that the US threatens a bank or company for not being allowed to do business in US and they say "OK, we pass and choose not to do business w/in the USA." If that were to become a trend, things would change
So I guess the "collection center" in Utah is being downsized as I type?
"The White House has informed me that collection on our allies will not continue, which I support," according to Feinstein.
And what does that mean. ? Its going to have a lot of serious consequences.
Number 1)
The moment the US does not spy anymore on its allies, then what the heck are they going to do with all these spys and operators located in Germany, Netherlands, Brussels, France, Italy, Austria etc. . The answer is simple, move them out of Germany etc. to Poland and other countries close to Russia, to Switzerland (not an ally) or to North Africa/Middle East to spy on ?? Al Quaida , yeah. That would be funny but it is never going to happen. The US is going to continue to spy on Germany via UK. All these contractors do get a job from the Brits or Israel while the US is paying for it. Its that simple.
To stop the spying on Germany and Euroland the US has to remove its troops from there including their nuclear arsenal. What are they anyhow doing there except spying and guarding their nuclear warheads? Ok, from time to time they need Europe as a base to plan wars in the Middle East and Africa (South Comm, AfriComm etc) but that can be done also from Florida or from Israel.
“Unlike NSA’s collection of phone records under a court order, it is clear to me that certain surveillance activities have been in effect for more than a decade and that the Senate Intelligence Committee was not satisfactorily informed,” Feinstein said in a statement. “Therefore our oversight needs to be strengthened and increased.” - Dianne Feinstein
http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/330995-feinstei...
Thanks for the confirmation that NSA programs and activities have not been properly monitored by your committee and surveillance of agency actions needs to be increased. Classic DiFi in action.
Nobody knew. Imagine that.
The "Surveillance" committee is not there to monitor........but to enable. Plausible deniability bitches.
<Long time no see Miles.> :)
No doubt
How rarely is an issue when the what is making things go. Especially when the what is predicated upon that how and that's supposedly cornered. What could go wrong? heh
Great to catch ya too Cog :)
Cheers
“Therefore our oversight needs to be strengthened and increased.”
Increasing something that doesn't exist in the first place is mathematically impossible. They need to establish oversight first, then talk about the level of it. My guess is, they cannot even accomplish the former least of all the latter.
Agreed. Optics meets objective circumstances while exploring new frontiers in what it means to be hopelessly behind the curve. Some sad shit
But seriously, when she says "our oversight", just substitute "gun control".
"Therefore, gun control needs to be strengthened and increased".
The Senator has no beef with the MIC, she is the MIC. It's the people that are dangerous.
Has nothing to do with controlling the intelligence services. It has to do with controlling you.
Fuck You Diane Feinstein.
Is that pronounced "Fine-stain"?
And, in the interest of expanding our understanding of the "F-word", here is an English-ed clip: http://www.hark.com/clips/zvvcgsklxn-usage-of-the-f-word
Damage Accomplished!
Obama lies because the media let him.
Can their have been a bigger presidential liar than Obama?
Obama the Prince of Lies.
The lie is Obama's first recourse. When in doubt lie. Why not the MSM are not going to call you out, in fact they will lick your balls.
The MSM is the banksters is the corporate power and the owners of Congress and Obama.
If the MSM turns on any of them then it means the Corptocracy has other plans in mind.
"The White House has informed me that collection on our allies will not continue, which I support,"
They will just reclassify the countries they spy on as not being allies any more. In a secret document, of course. They must support terrorism if they don't like being spied on.
That's exactly what the distinguished General Clapper said.
Yeah... Yeah... stop spying... sure ... that's what we'll do... sure... yeah...
Oh and I'll still respect you in the morning. Promise.
By the way. Could anyone here do a better job with the President and Congress' press group on spinning this situation more favorably? I could solicit the support from the kids at the elementary school down the street from where I live to do a better job than what Diane Feinstein and President "Barry" just read off the teleprompter. Again this has nothing to do with the U.S. Government spying on all our friends and enemies. This is only about a "deadbeat" that refuses to pay it's debts and in the process threatens everyone else with force when it doesn't get what it wants.
Say Goodnight Gracie -Goodnight Gracie
Animated corpses always stink of corruption.
I am spying on .gov. All NSA, CIA, Whitehouse, Pentagon communications are being montiored, stored and sold to tbtf corporations to ensure lobbying dollars are being well spent.
I wonder if they will recall my Ambassador or jusrt shoot him/her?
Are US citizens "allies"?
In USA, Citizens are Allies+
In USSA, some Citizens are more equal than others
she should go away
Lol, after wikileaks and Hillary's shreaks, now Snowden's mega bomb gets Feinstein tying her twits in knots of disbelief, shades of the Watergate; its Psycho time, torn curtain thrilla, stronger than anything toxic that Ayotollah Iran can concoct.
It hits the Obammy admin right between the eyes. George Foreman time, reeling on the ropes, its rumble in the NWO jungle, its thrilla in Manila. Its time for the countdown.
"We never had NSA sexting with your Iphone, I promise you!" Said Obammy to Mutti....
The allies will accept these commitments at face value and breathe a collective sigh of relief that it was all just a big misunderstanding ha ha.
Because to not do so would cause their own populations to riot in the streets, topple their governments, and unseat their rulers.
This is why the NSA cannot be stopped; America is a ripe playground for their kinds within which they are completely secure against any retribution, while in contrast their victims will be destroyed in an instant if it ever appears as if the NSA is pulling the strings of the world.
Well, we can be certain things will be put to right - because Dianne Feinstein has given us HER WORD.
Define Collection. Its all word games.
Collect. If an intelligence official says that the NSA isn’t “collecting” a certain kind of information, what has he actually said? Not very much, it turns out. One of the NSA’s foundational documents states that “collection” occurs not when the government acquires information but when the government “selects” or “tasks” that information for “subsequent processing.” Thus it becomes possible for the government to acquire great reams of information while denying that it is “collecting” anything at all.
Decoding the NSA: How the Agency Manipulates Language to Mislead the Public
They really think that they can spy on everyone for the rest of time and get away with it by playing word games.
If Obama had no clue that this was occurring, then who analyzes these recordings, and to whom do they report? Who reads the analyses, and to whom do they report?
Seems like an intrepid reporter would ask Jay Carney whether Obama is either A) lying, or B) clueless as to what his administration is doing. Those are the only two possible answers.
Follow-up question is whether he was likewise clueless or lying when he said that the US publics' conversations aren't being recorded.
If the answer to either is, "He's clueless", then the final question would be:
"So, when the fuck is this feckless piece of shit going to resign?"
Intrepid reporter? Is there still one out there who retains privilges to attend those WH press conferences, or are they all part of the captive/controlled media? A few weeks ago we had one of the alphabet soup of agencies in D.C. say that they want to be able to define exactly who is a reporter. Oh, now I get it.