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White House To Stop Spying on Allies, Dianne Feinstein Promises
Continuing to play Obama like a fiddle, the Snowden revelations have done more to change US foreign policy in a few short months, than all laws passed since the advent of the Patriot Act. In the latest example of just this, moments ago, USA Today first and the WSJ and others subsequently, reported that according to Dianne Feinstein, chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee and an NSA supporter, the National Security Agency has stopped gathering intelligence on allied political leaders, a practice that has drawn global criticism. "The White House has informed me that collection on our allies will not continue, which I support," according to Feinstein. It was not immediately clear if this is an implicit admission that the White House actually did know about the NSA's spying on foreign leaders over the past decade, and lied about being unaware. Recall that Obama denied just this last night, but at this point the pit of lies is so deep, few actually care or are keeping track.
Ironically, in an attempt to redirect once again, Feinstein "criticized President Obama over reports he only recently learned about the monitoring that included German Chancellor Angela Merkel. "It is my understanding that President Obama was not aware Chancellor Merkel's communications were being collected since 2002," she said. "That is a big problem." Don't worry Dianne, he knew everything, but an autocrat-in-waiting has to lie do what an autocrat-in-waiting has to lie do.
From USA Today:
As a growing chorus of nations protest U.S. surveillance policies, Obama's spokesman said Monday that an ongoing review will address the concerns of allies.
The review of NSA programs is designed to insure that intelligence gathering protects "both the security of our citizens and our allies and the privacy concerns shared by Americans and citizens around the world," said White House press secretary Jay Carney.
Administration officials refused to comment on a report indicating that Obama learned only this year about a program that monitored the communications of foreign leaders -- a situation that wouldn't be particularly unusual, said an intelligence expert.
Paul Pillar, a former senior intelligence officer, said most presidents don't know about "the targeting decisions" made by their intelligence agencies.
"It would be a horrible drain on the president's time and attention," Pillar said.
So instead the president can focus all his time and energy on creating 40-ing websites and taking over the public healthcare system?
As reported earlier, Spain was the latest country to be exposed as having been the target of the NSA's extensive espionage (at a massive cost to US taxpayers), resulting in just the latest ambassadorial summoning. Which of course was merely more theater, set in motion merely to appease the locals.
Pillar said it's not the tactics themselves that create international friction as much as the fact that they have now been publicized.
"Not only do allies spy on each other all the time, allies know about it all the time," Pillar said.
Normally, he said, nations that discover surveillance from other countries would tighten their security procedures and not make "a public stink" about it.
But the news coverage – inspired by the Snowden revelations and fueled by outrage from their domestic constituents – forces leaders to confront the United States.
The issue is particularly sensitive in Germany, where memories of the nation's Cold War divisions remain fresh. That includes domestic spying by police forces in Communist-run East Germany – the native region of Chancellor Merkel, an outspoken critic of NSA tactics.
"Their history is speaking very loudly to them," said Heather Conley, senior fellow and director of the Europe Program with the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Conley and Pillar said intelligence agencies do gather information on each other, on items ranging from positions on trade negotiations to the political troubles of the targeted government.
The difference these days? "It's a public discussion," Conley said.
Precisely. Because the public has had enough of governments scheming behind their backs, always to the detriment of common people. And the person to thank for all of this is none other than Edward Snowden, who instead of being praised as a hero in his home country, has been forced into exile into the country that once upon a time was the "evil empire." How the times have changed in the despotic New Normal.
As for Feinstein's promise that the US will stop spying either on foreign leaders, or domestically, that is about as good as any other promise made by an insolvent empire, not only spying on everyone else - that is expected of everyone - but terrified of its own people and thus much more intent on isolating and silencing "all enemies domestic" - in full decline.
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A four page Der Spiegel piece (in English) on the spying from US Embassies in Germany and elsewhere:
"A 'top secret' classified NSA document from the year 2010 shows that a unit known as the 'Special Collection Service' (SCS) is operational in Berlin, among other locations. It is an elite corps run in concert by the US intelligence agencies NSA and CIA.
The secret list reveals that its agents are active worldwide in around 80 locations, 19 of which are in Europe -- cities such as Paris, Madrid, Rome, Prague and Geneva."
. . . . some juicy specifics follow including:
"Wiretapping from an embassy is illegal in nearly every country. But that is precisely the task of the SCS, as is evidenced by another secret document"
See if you notice any difference between Der Spiegel reporting and US mainstream reporting:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/cover-story-how-nsa-spied-on...
I suspect that "SCS" is pronounced "Scuzzy". Or should be.
I was born when Eisenhower ran things.
Since that time, the US Constitution had had no greater enemy than Dianne Feinstein.
And the spying of the American people continues, so Americans aren't allies in the eyes of the Federal Governement.
The Liar-in-Chief promises to stop spying on allies and the Harpy Dianne in his choir chants and promises, "yes he will and never did." Angela, Barack loves and protects you and never ever listened to your calls.
Can somebody tell me how many Jews are in America, and how many hold seats in power?
To me the really troubling question is: "After all that has happened to the Jews under Stalin and Hitler, how the fuck can they not only tolerate such totalitarian policies and practices in the US, but actually condone and promote them?" How!?
And don't give me that "We didn't know" or "We had no power or influence" shit! You fascist Likud & Neocon scum!
The Shoa victims would be spinning in their graves, if they knew what's happening.
To me the really troubling question is: "After all that has happened to the Jews under Stalin and Hitler, how the fuck can they not only tolerate such totalitarian policies and practices in the US, but actually condone and promote them?" How!? All that happened?? According to whom? Stalin's wife was Jewish btw.
The Shoa victims would be spinning in their graves, if they knew what's happening. All 6MM? Or can that number officially now be revised (without a Lipstadt lawsuit and show trial) considering that their own 'historians' at Auschwitz have revised the estimates at that place down by over 1MM on 2 at least different occassions? Go visit sometime when you're across the pond. Pay particular attention to the "showers" which according to the signage are a model (i.e. fabrification in both the literal and figural sense) based upon what they think they looked like. There's no business like Shoah business.
No one censors speech they agree with, and the truth needs no laws to protect it from honest debate.
As this post amounts to a crime in well over a dozen countries, I trust that the NSA won't share this comment with ISR as they do all other data they collect on American citizens.
I'd say they are under the illusion that being in control of the current fascist party is safer? The story of the Golem in instructional. Is Frankenstein a jewish name? It's too bad these smart people are not helping us poor schleps but appear to be helping themselves, for now.
The check is in the mail.
I won't...just forget No.2.
There is nobody in Washington DC who has done more to preserve the status quo than this cipher. Anybody who thinks she will ever do anything other than preserve the status quo should stick their head in a toilet. Her MO is so predicatable by now. Feign concern. Then delay. She is ALWAYS playing for things to blow over. That's all she ever does. She is just trying to establish some "credibility" so that she can make sure as hell that nothing essential changes.
Former allies are to be re-classified as enemies by the obomba -- let the spying continue
"Allies" wouldn't include Republicans or Americans.
I did NOT has Sex with Monica ......LOL
I think it was Jon Stewart who said that Lewinsky was the only Jewish girl who couldn't get her dress dry-cleaned. I LMAO when I heard that.
How cohencidental do you think it is that after the Clinton scandal with intern Lewinsky we had the Gary Condit scandal with another intern Chandra Levy?
An even BIGGER cohencidence...Lewinsky's and Levy's father were both oncologists from California. Oy, what's the probability of that?!
Lewinsky born in San Fran. Levy born in Modesto.
Lewinsky's father was born and lived in El Salvador prior to moving to the US. Levy was (allegedly) murdered in D.C. by El Salvadoran illegal immigrant Ingmar Guandique. Curiouser and curiouser.
Nothing to see here. Move on folks.
More pathological-liar doubletalk from extreme-left statist Dianne FINESWINE, queen of the sows. A credit to the land of fruits, nuts and flakes.
Several cruel & unusual punishments come to mind...
Left winger that acts like a goose-stepping Nazi. She would have been perfect in the Hitler Youth. Maybe that's why California voters keep returning her to the Senate.
Isn't Feinstein one of the liars that help perpetuate the Obamacare disaster? Yes, of course she is and she is also the liberal turn who does not believe in our constitution and she suggests we listen to her? Hahahahha! FU I had an interesting discussion with a man who is my neighbor and 89 years old today and we discussed what is wrong with American and we both concluded, liberalism is the root cause of all that has destroyed America! Hard to argue!
[briefings by the intelligence services] "'...would be a horrible drain on the president's time and attention,' Pillar said."
Oh, too horrible to even think about! Would they cut into golf time? Couldn't they work in a few sentences during one of the Weekly Drone-Assassination briefings? How much lower can this group go?
An oldie, but a goodie.
If my dog was that ugly I'd shave its arse and teach it to walk bacwards!
this is Feinstein's utopia (along with msnbc)
Sickest shit I ever seen, but this is broad daylight San Franciso, this is what they want all over Amerika. I grew up in new orleans and thought I saw it all in the French quarter, nothing prepared me for this. It is something that happnes many times a year in SF
Sadly it has to be seen to understand what Feinstein, Rachel - msnbc et at, want in your face
wonder why the nomal everyday Muslim DO NOT WANT our way of life or Culture
wonder why LIBTARDS hate Christians ---- UN-FUCKINGBELIEVEABLE
http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_1_full/
She is so ugly they could use her in prison to cure sex offenders.
A. Why would anyone believe the government? They LIE!!
B. Why would anyone believe Feinstein? She is part of the government and therefore LIES!!!!
C. Are the American people allies? If not then who the fork is the government?
dianne feinfuck is a lying sack of shit....if that bitch's lips are moving, she is lying...there will be absolutely no recissions on spying and they will increase all the more...she is a card carrying nazi murderer contrary to whatever may be implied by her last name...
Very reassuring words for "allies", the doomers have nothing to fear.
Oh great now the NSA will have at 1000 people with nothing to do and will have them turn inward on the US.
I hate this fucking gov't.
We promise not to spy on you.
Along the same tone as;
1. I'll pull out before I come.
2. I won't come in your mouth.
3. Honest, It just slipped in the wrong hole.
Hope our "allies" can come up with a new operating system, cause the U.S. .gov is off the chain.
They now own all the money, the secrets and the infrastructure. She's working hard to get them the last piece...our last vestige of freedom: the guns.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
I call BS on that headline.
Ha ha ha hahahah, ha ha... oh God somebody stop me from laughing to death...
Pray that transhumanism isn't an option before cunt disorderments like this are fucking DEAD. Could you imagine an eternal Feinstein? Fuck me.
Dear foreign intelligence operatives. If you'd like to further embarrass the current US regime, please feel free to publicly air Diane Feinstein's, Harry Reid's, Barry Sotero's, Valerie Jarret's, etc. Dirty laundry for the world to see. We are led by incompetent narcissists, that are never told "no". It won't embarrass the US populace.
And Obama promised to be a uniter! What utter LYING DEMOCRAT RUBBISH!
We've long been warned of Big Brother.
Meet Dianne Feinstein, Big Mother.
Or if you prefer, Big Matha F....
i know it's on page 4 and maybe it's been said. First anybody using the word 'meme' should be shot.
Next I think the following meme should be updated.
"What are the world's three biggest lies?" It used to be:
I think it should be changed to
1. The NSA will quit spying on you
2. Your facebook account will be deleted
3. I won't cum in your mouth. (some things never change)
A bit OT but the hypocrisy is interesting.
The Rupert Murdoch phone hacking scandal finally coming to trial in London (major delaying activity by Defense?).
Many of the foot soldiers in this fiasco have lost jobs and income,low level and medium level police officers.
Now the Murdoch flunkies will be kicked to the curb (I know,they are innocent until proven guilty,or take a package and roll over and grass out their mates and superiors).
So: NSA and GCHQ eavesdropping bad,but no criminal penalties,fines or imprisonment.
Phone hacking ,and suborning police dept. by deputies of Global media baron,Rupert Murdoch,bad and possible criminal charges,fines and imprisonment? Come on,Nigel Farage,it is on a silver platter for ya!
The slimeballs at the White House have already said Feinstein is "innacurate" and that they will NOT stop spying on allies. This is getting both funnier and more disgusting at the same time. In effect, they are calling Feinstein a liar -- laugh or cry, who knows? If this is article is true, Feinstein has some backtracking to do from her being "totally opposed" position. Party loyalty and all.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/administration-official-rebuts-feinste...
Meanwhile, Peeping-Klown-in-Chief Obama claims that all the spying programs keep Americans safe, even if he knows nothing about them.
That Bitch!
Die already BITCH!
Edit: The world will never know that you existed. History will erase your evil deeds and you will live in hell forever for what you did to this world.
Hey Feinstein! Fuck you , you lying slimeball bitch!!
So now we learn that O'boy knows virtually nothing bad that goes on, and the Fed has no real effect on the economy according to Wormspleen.
Who's running this shithole!?!
Satan
What a load of shit. Of course they will not stop spying on allies or anyone else. If torture and other violations of laws, constitutions, and basic human decency can be justifiably violated in the name of "protecting us" from "terrorists," then so can spying be justified. In their minds, in fact, they could be morally obliged to spy. See, for example, the ticking timb bomb scenario: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticking_time_bomb_scenario
That is one ugly zionist bitch. You can see the contempt and malevolence of Behemoth shining thru it's eyes.
give up all your guns to the frankenstein monster and you will be save!
I'm surprised that Senator Feinstein did not reference her favorite tale of how she stuck her fingers in Harvey Milk's bullet holes. You know, the horror and all that.
Come to think of it, she would make an excellent Colonel Kurtz.
Caught in a lie, lie some more. When you hold the people in contempt, it is a natural progression.
That's up there with Hillary supposedly ducking sniper fire in the Balkans.
You've got it all wrong... it's bitch-hog!
Can We Just Vote Her Out Already?
Look at the financial disclosures already.
Let her move to Bloombergia
Asylum for Snowden: I think that is a possible answer of the German Parliament although there is no doubt that China, Russia, Israel, GB & Co. are also "in line" (...there is & was at no time any doubt....). No wonder when Ms. Merkel used to use her unencrypted private phone.
Old chancellor Gerhard Schröder wouldn't have hesitated one second: Welcome Snowden and probably shifting the spying US-Embassy along with all its antennas to the periphery of Berlin. But it's naive to believe German BND is/was not involved in that game...
Please avoid posting pictures of that serpant in further stories. Its just too hideuos to look at