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Spot The Difference

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As the investing public looks around for reasons why US equities are rallying, the harsh reality is highlighted in the following chart... all that matters is what JPY carry is doing. While correlation is not causation, we suspect you'd be hard-pressed to suggest we are not on to something here...

 

 

What is perhaps most worrisome is that the vertical ramp in both USDJPY and S&P 500 both began as NASDAQ imploded... at 1253ET

 

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Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:43 | 4101786 camaro68ss
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there is no difference when we're all in the nut house togeather

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:44 | 4101791 Super Marco
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Pairs arbitrage bitchez!

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:46 | 4101799 max2205
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Try the aapl goog pair....we are all Japanese again

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:01 | 4101883 Induced Coma
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This is now my basic premise to life:

 

 

"it's basically a neutral event... It's No Big Deal!"

- Nobel-Prize-winning economist Eugene Fama

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:26 | 4101988 HardlyZero
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How did Rick Santelli get Fama to say that...pretty cool trick.

Can't wait for the "no big deal"...1929 all over again.

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:02 | 4101890 Zer0head
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"there is no difference when we're all in the nut house togeather"

 

beg to differ but some of us march counter-clockwise

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:08 | 4101920 Stoploss
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It's bigger, keep diggin.

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:47 | 4101806 Winston Churchill
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There is if you are not getting the tranquilizer meds.

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:49 | 4102096 BigRedRider
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@TruthinSunshine, your link = 404....try again....I need a good laugh today.

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:46 | 4101796 BudFox2012
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I thought the S&P was rallying due to the trillions of dollars the Obama regime was going to have to dump into tech companies to get their damn website working...

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:48 | 4101807 STG5IVE
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Asian markets might be interesting this evening

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:50 | 4101821 Running On Bing...
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Obama!

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:51 | 4101822 hugovanderbubble
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ITALY DOWNGRADED BY PETERSSEN TO JUNK

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 14:49 | 4102366 Non Passaran
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Who's P and why should we care?

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:52 | 4101826 IndyPat
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Anyone mind breaking this down a little bit more, for us less market gifted?
Just need a little help knowing what bear is shitting in what buckwheat and for what effect...
Thx in advance

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:40 | 4102066 Orly
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It has to do with the correlation of US stocks and "risk" currency pairs.

The carry trade is the differential between US interest rates and Japanese interest rates and it is paid to the holder of the currency that has the higher bond yield.  In this case, buy US dollars against Japanese yen and you make money by simply parking cash in dollars.  The less fear there is in the market, the more traders are willing to "risk" getting caught holding dollars, hence the USDJPY pair rises along with other risky assets, such as the SPX.

On the other hand, when there is fear in the markets and traders are becoming risk averse, they will sell USD against JPY because JPY has become a safe-haven currency of sorts and is quite liquid in its own right.

Also, the EuroYen trade follows the SPX even more closely than does the USDJPY pair.

:D

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:14 | 4101837 FiatFapper
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If you look at the year open and compare yen versus SP500, there's massive divergence from few months ago, so these posts by Tyler are cherry-picking the occasional day open correlations, which seems a bit insincere.

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:24 | 4101986 IndyPat
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I guess it's the fact that Tyler is asking me to spot "difference" when...to my untrained eye, I see similarity...

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:43 | 4102078 Orly
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That statement is decidedly false.  The correlation of UJ to SPX has been very tight for some time and now (like since 2007...).  After the advent of Abenomincs and the normalisation of the yen, it is correlating even more so than before.

:D

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 15:49 | 4102588 FiatFapper
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Can you post a chart please?

I'd like to see this 'bigger picture' you speak of, rather than these day open snap-shots, txs.

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 16:19 | 4102661 Orly
Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:55 | 4101847 q99x2
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Inflation in the price of stocks is inflation. You get less of them for every dollar.

We have massive inflation taking place right now.

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:01 | 4101879 WTFUD
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Long US & Japanese Funeral Directors

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:21 | 4101971 HardlyZero
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Knew Kathleen Sebelius had a backup plan...good tip!  Back to the old family job, makes sense now.

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:02 | 4101888 ZH Snob
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why don't they just call it the musical chair market?  when the music stops it will be quite apparent.

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:05 | 4101908 Fuh Querada
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Like "Indypat", I would be highly obliged if some fine financial expert could explain those charts for a dumbass such as myself, who committed the cardinal error of learning a productive profession rather than hawking toxic paper.

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:29 | 4102013 TPTB_r_TBTF
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when a line on a chart goes up, that is "good".

 

Both lines in that chart are going up, so that's "great"!

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:46 | 4102090 Fuh Querada
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You don't say !

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:50 | 4102105 BigRedRider
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It's just complying with the Bernankian Law of Physics: What goes down must go up".

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:25 | 4101994 ItsDanger
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Who has the counterparty risk?

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 14:25 | 4102268 bnbdnb
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me, Oct 16th "They'll up dividends, perform stock buybacks, and reborrow at 3% interest to fund their current liabilities."

today. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ibm-board-approves-quarterly-cash-dividend-authorizes-15-billion-for-stock-repurchase-2013-10-29

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 14:45 | 4102343 venturen
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Didn't you know one yen can be used to buy a dollar worth of stock....so you just convert your one dollar to 98 yen then buy 98 dollars worth of stock. It is so simple a Corzineman could do it!

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