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"NSA Tapped The Pope", Spied On Vatican To Prevent "Threats To Financial System"

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In the latest blow, and a new low, for the US spying agency, earlier today Italian magazine Panorama blasted a preview of an article due for publication tomorrow, with the simple premise: "NSA had tapped the pope." According to a Reuters report, the "spy agency had eavesdropped on Vatican phone calls, possibly including when former Pope Benedict's successor was under discussion, but the Holy See said it had no knowledge of any such activity. Panorama magazine said that among 46 million phone calls followed by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) in Italy from December 10, 2012, to January 8, 2013, were conversations in and out of the Vatican." But while it is unclear just what divine information the NSA had hoped to uncover by spying on the Vatican, what is an absolute headbanger, is that according to Panorama one of the reasons for the illegal wiretaps was to be abreast of "threats to the financial system." We can only assume this means keeping on top of Goldman's activities around the globe: after all, when one intercepts god's phone calls, one is mostly interested what the bank that does god's will is doing.

From Reuters:

Asked to comment on the report, Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said: "We are not aware of anything on this issue and in any case we have no concerns about it."

 

Media reports based on revelations from Edward Snowden, the fugitive former U.S. intelligence operative granted asylum in Russia, have said the NSA had spied on French citizens over the same period in December in January.

 

Panorama said the recorded Vatican phone calls were catalogued by the NSA in four categories - leadership intentions, threats to the financial system, foreign policy objectives and human rights.

 

Benedict resigned on February 28 this year and his successor, Pope Francis, was elected on March 13.

 

"It is feared" that calls were listened to up until the start of the conclave that elected Francis, the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina, Panorama said.

 

The magazine said there was also a suspicion that the Rome residence where some cardinals lived before the conclave, including the future pope, was monitored.

Cue another US ambassador being summoned by an "ally" country, more questions about just what US taxpayer funds are being spent on, more public indignation, and even more bad will (if that is even possible) toward the great, globalist US superstate that is no longer accountable to anyone but itself and a few select oligarchs.

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Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:14 | 4105277 IndyPat
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Then by extension...did they tap God?
They're pushing it...

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:17 | 4105299 knukles
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Cue the pedophile jokes.

Like speak right into the pink microphone....

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:19 | 4105314 slotmouth
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Hey NSA, if you see something say something.  This applies to pedophilia.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:21 | 4105322 Badabing
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"threats to the financial system."

The new

“threats to national security”

Isn’t it time to get the fuckwod bankers swinging from a tree?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:25 | 4105343 Manthong
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OMG.. The freaking Pope?

Next thing you know we will find out that the NSA is the reason Saint Nick knows who’s been naughty or nice.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:40 | 4105415 Rick Blaine
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Yeah...this shit is getting almost too "good" to be true now...

I'm not even sure George Orwell could have seen this one coming.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:50 | 4105466 outamyeffinway
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Now THAT is God's work.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:54 | 4105475 Ying-Yang
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NSA reportedly tapped into Google, Yahoo data centers worldwide without telling either company

It's a top secret plan with a fittingly supervillain-esque codename: MUSCULAR. That tool, part of a partnership between the NSA and the UK's GCHQ, has been used to infiltrate Google and Yahoo data centers across the world, according to documents revealed by Edward Snowden and confirmed by sources at The Washington Post.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/30/nsa-muscular/

It's a breach of privacy that could affect hundreds of millions of users, one that neither company was apparently privy to...

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:56 | 4105485 Citxmech
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At this point, just to keep the list more managable, maybe they should start telling us who the NSA didn't tap.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:57 | 4105490 12ToothAssassin
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The more I hear of this spying, the more I think its all about industrial espionage and not terrists. /captainobvious

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:02 | 4105497 12ToothAssassin
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Here are a couple that even the NSA wouldnt tap http://bit.ly/1cqXyeR http://bit.ly/17XYSyv

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:12 | 4105569 HoofHearted
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So, we're Rome, right? And we know how that declined. Why are we involved in everyone else's business? Why don't we have Ron Paul or Gary Johnson as president? 

They hate us for our freedoms...especially when their freedoms are taken away just like ours...

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:31 | 4105684 James_Cole
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Imagine how many $$$ Snowden (and contractors like him) could've made trading on all the insider info NSA has. Since it's all topic secret it's not like they could get busted.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:55 | 4105801 DaveyJones
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Give the NSA a break

They confused The Flying Nun with a Drone Program

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 15:00 | 4105815 asteroids
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You know, GOD gets pissed at this kind of immoral behaviour. OK USA, you've been warned. Should a plauge of locusts hit the White House, you will know why.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 15:08 | 4105842 TruthInSunshine
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Here's a quote from George Washington that is fitting regarding today's "environment," that I just learned of (I'm surprised I hadn't learned of it prior), and it's spot on:

"Government, like fire, is our most useful servant, if fully controlled by us, its citizens; and government, exactly like fire, becomes our most destructive master if not fully controlled by the open majority of its productive working Citizens! Only united-armed-vigilant & trained. Swiss 6,000 year Peace & Freedom reigned! Exception? None"

--- from 'The Army of Principles' by George Washington (American General during Revolutionary War & 1st President of the United States of America)

Thu, 10/31/2013 - 10:24 | 4108470 pmbug
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The Vatican has been calling for a NWO monetary system since 2011. It doesn't surprise me that the NSA might consider a group calling for a replacement to the petrodollar to be a threat.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 15:09 | 4105856 European American
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Hmmm, phone tapping the Vatican? They must have got an ear full of "doing the nasty with young boys" talk.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 15:15 | 4105879 The Big Ching-aso
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Hey man, "tapping" the pope just doesn't sound right.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 16:15 | 4106198 Deo vindice
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So we have the 'anti-Christian-God' nation listening in to the phone calls of the anti-christ.

How appropriate.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 16:06 | 4106142 Kirk2NCC1701
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Is he now "tapped out"?  Define "Tapped". 

Will they Taper the Tapping?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 18:46 | 4106736 Papasmurf
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12ToothAssassin

Here are a couple that even the NSA wouldnt tap ://bit.ly/1cqXyeR http://bit.ly/17XYSyv

Who would tap that?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:02 | 4105508 NewAmericaNow
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It's about being able to manipulate the right people. Just think for a moment how the intelligence shadow governmnet can threaten key polititians, judges, police to do their bidding or have their dirty laundry exposed and lives torn to shreds. Everyone has skeletons in their closets, some are just bigger.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:05 | 4105515 12ToothAssassin
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*cough* Russel Tice *cough*

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:06 | 4105501 Ying-Yang
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Think of the genius of Eric Snowden's intel being released slowly over time.

Just when public awareness fades another release... Brilliant

It is said he has 30,000 documents... Thrilling!

Mom and Pop.... how's your Gmail account doing? How about some iCloud baby?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:53 | 4105791 gavrilo princip
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All respect to Snowden for doing something what seems to be right at personal expense.

Still, sceptic would say that It must be hard as it is, hiding all the truth from the sheeple, without NSA taping everything. Guardian has an editor, and to think anything that may hurt the status quo would be published, is naivety at least.

Maybe the world is just as we are thought to believe, lovely democracy and Obama spreading the peace, Goldmans doing the Gods work, Waren Buffet a nice old man, Bernanke saviour of the humanity, dolar hegemony being the best possible way etc...

My guess is on Obama and Bernanke being a smipleminded tools, Buffet out of touch sell out, Goldmans a principal tool and much more concious of its role in taking a cut for a parasites out of every productivity going on in this world, dolar a scam etc

If you believe the freedom has been gained by NSA being in best case censored, or made to spy only on the ordinary people, rejoice!

In other case, if watching this show wants you to move to the jungle in preference of the mosquitos to the human race, in my opinion it may be well worth it.

Thu, 10/31/2013 - 06:58 | 4107953 Ying-Yang
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Is it better to live inside or outside the evil Empire?

Thu, 10/31/2013 - 07:17 | 4107984 gavrilo princip
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As long as you are able to survive, I would say it is better

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:58 | 4105808 Kirk2NCC1701
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Journalistic equivalent of the Chinese Water-Torture.  Brilliant!  Sheer genius.

That's why some interests wanted the whole thing dumped at once, so they could... "manage the fallout".  Fuck 'em!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 15:06 | 4105836 Svendblaaskaeg
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death by 30,000 papercuts...auch!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 15:43 | 4105991 Ying-Yang
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Thanks to the Tylers... we on ZH are wide awake.

Eric Snowden's releases are waking up sleepers one category at a time.

Do you think Catholics will trust their communications?

Do you think German's will trust theirs.... and so on?

Bit by bit people will awake to the fact that the blue pill red pill world is not science fiction but science fact.

There is a dark dank other world out there where actors do their bidding without review. The NSA disclosures will tip the balance of public opinion worldwide.

I smell a change in the wind.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 00:00 | 4110842 MontgomeryScott
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@Ying-Yang:

No, not a change in the wind.

THE WIND OF CHANGE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIoxlTECcQM

There is yet hope now...

 

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:25 | 4105345 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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vatican bank and money laundry are almost synonymous 

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:33 | 4105388 ebworthen
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They at least provide a service, unlike HSBC, Citi, and the J.P. Morgue.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:37 | 4105411 TheLooza
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Look, if the pope has nothing to hide, why should he care if we listen to him?  

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:41 | 4105416 J Pancreas
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"I like tuttles" kid needs tapped too. Sounds terroristy and whatnot.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:41 | 4105418 Manthong
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He's a Jesuit.. he has issues and reasons to care.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 16:32 | 4106306 Argos
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Yes, and as a Jesuit, he probably only speaks in Latin.  I bet you even

the NSA is having trouble translating.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:47 | 4105766 insanelysane
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The good old nothing to hide argument.

Except there are plenty of things that aren't illegal that organizations want hidden.

Let's say Ford has a new engine design.  Some NSA worker can sell that design to GM or Toyota.

And then some idiot will repeat, "if they don't have anything to hide, why do they worry about NSA."

Same thing with political campaigns and strategies.  NSA can provide the information to the highest bidders and idiots like you are saying "do what ever it takes to keep me safe."

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 20:47 | 4107089 BigJim
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Shame on you! The angels working within the NSA (and other such government departments) would never do such a thing!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 00:16 | 4110877 MontgomeryScott
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Jim:

TRUST ME!

The check's in the mail!

I won't get you pregnant!

No, I WON'T come in your mouth!

 

The NSA simply exists to keep the HEIMLAHNT (oops' 'homeland') SAFE! The TSA is simply there to grope your privates and those of your family in the interests of 'NATIONAL, SECURITY'! You really need to go stand in the 'free speech zones' and talk over there. That's it, little slave...the nice uniformed people with riot gear and tazer bracelets will direct you to your next point of departure. This might hurt a little bit, but, TRUST ME, this won't last long.

I had no idea that the NSA had 'angels'. I always thought of their tactics as 'angles'. Here, have another 'Tic-Tac'. your breath will smell so much better..

YOU KNOW, the whole '9/11' angle...

BOO!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:01 | 4105503 Urban Redneck
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The IOR is fucking rounding error, and if 100% of their transaction volume was money laundering, it would still be a rounding error. "Threats to Financial System" and IOR is a non-sequitur. This is an (im)pure and simple hunt for "leverage" (or perhaps the NSA is learning from the CIA and was trying to beat the bookmakers to finance black ops, not they actually have any need to after the 9/11 spending floodgates were opened...)

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 16:08 | 4105828 Kirk2NCC1701
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Technically, as far as the IRS, the Fed and TPTB are concerned, the Sunday collections from Parishioners are "substantial, undocumented and untraceable funds" -- which by their very definition is "money laundering".

Think about it, in their minds, every time you give to the Church, you are Aiding & Abetting "Money Laundering".  Pope Paul was not kidding when he said "Satan is in the Church, and there is smoke around the Altar."

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:35 | 4105392 Groundhog Day
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we need to go back to carrier pigeons or secret smoke signals

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:15 | 4105584 Wahooo
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My thoughts exactly. We have the Federal Government spying on behalf of the banksters.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:31 | 4105378 it aint easy
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In other news, the Vatican Security Agency are caught tapping the posteriors of local choir boys..

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:33 | 4105387 it aint easy
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Not so funny though, since it's probably true. :/

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 14:10 | 4105562 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Wayne Madsen said this was coming out yesterday on AJ show...

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:20 | 4105319 Crash Overide
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If you read 12th century land claims and dig deep enough the Vatican, "according to them" own most of the world. Many believe the Vatican is one of the power brokers giving orders to their own minions across the globe so why wouldn't the NSA spy on them too... Can't prove it, just saying.

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