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Obamacare Data Hub Crashes For Second Time In Three Days, Verizon Blamed Again

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The first and last time a critical data center for Obamacare crashed this past Sunday night, leading to healthcare.gov becoming completely inaccessible and thus halting enrollment (assuming there had been any in the first place but of course allowing the government to blame any lack thereof on Verizon), we said "whether or not Verizon fixes the glitch any time soon, or merely lets it linger, one thing is becoming obvious: the Obamacare delay, which was hard fought by the Teaparty, and which was so opposed by the administration leading to the grotesque 16 day government shutdown, has all but become a reality with every passing day. Only instead of someone actually taking responsibility, said delay will be scapegoated on Verizon's data centers, faulty fiber-optic and copper cables, Cisco switches, Syrian hackers, millions of lines of faulty (Fortran?) code, inept contractors, end users who never read the Help.doc file, and everyone and everything else. Just never the government itself." Once again, we were proven correct when overnight the Connecticut state healthcare exchange, "Access Health CT", announced that the Obamacare data hub was "experiencing an outage" on Tuesday evening. The culprit - Verizon once again. Which answered our question: not Syrian hackers or Cisco but, conveniently, Verizon Terremark.

Conveniently, because recall which company was first implicated in the avalanche of Edward Snowden revelations - why Verizon, which before the NSA disclosure, was first said to be the major communication interception hub used by the government. So when Obama asks the firm that gets unknown kickbacks from the government for providing private client data to the NSA, to take one for the team, well... Verizon promptly obliges.

More on this hilarious "coincidence" from Reuters:

"Access Health CT was informed by CMS (Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services) that the Federal Data Services Hub is currently experiencing an outage," a statement from the Connecticut state exchange said.

 

A similar outage on Sunday halted online enrollment on the federal Healthcare.gov website as well as similar state sites.

 

An official at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) acknowledged the Obamacare website had been impacted by the problem.

 

"Tonight, Verizon Terremark again experienced network issues in their data center that caused a system outage impacting the federal data services hub and the Healthcare.gov marketplace application," the official, who asked not to be named, said in an email to Reuters.

 

"Verizon Terremark is conducting maintenance overnight to resolve their issue with our technical team and when that is complete we will bring our systems back online," the official said.

 

Verizon's Terremark operates the data services hub that links online health insurance marketplaces with numerous federal agencies and can verify people's identity, citizenship, and other facts.

 

"We are now undertaking infrastructure maintenance, which should be complete overnight. We anticipate the strengthened infrastructure will help eliminate application downtimes," said a statement by Jeff Nelson, vice president of global corporate communications at Verizon Enterprise Solutions.

 

"Verizon is committed to supporting our HHS client and stabilizing their www.healthcare.gov website. Since HHS asked us to provide additional compute and storage capacity, our engineers have worked 24/7 to trouble-shoot issues with the site," the statement said.

And once the Verizon wildcard is used a few more time, ostensibly every single day allowing the Obama administration's apparatchiks an explanatory loophole why Obamacare enrollment is in the single digits, then come the Syrian hackers of course.

 

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Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:35 | 4104020 GetZeeGold
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UNDO dammit........UNDO!!!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:36 | 4104021 negative rates
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Do they drive a Ford?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:00 | 4104049 Headbanger
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Hey!  I said I know Fortran ! 

Gimmie a call and get together some of the old school geeks who put men on the Moon and we'll git er done!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:03 | 4104057 Truthseeker2
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The Hidden Agenda Behind Obamacare

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=383
 

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:18 | 4104066 GetZeeGold
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Dude....we all know....we're working on it.

 

OK?

 

If you want to help out just hold off on the damn crop circles.....cause that's not helping here.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:23 | 4104093 Headbanger
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How's you know they were my idea?  It's something fun to do when you get abducted by some party animal aliens!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:03 | 4104143 SWRichmond
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Still looks to me like tt's a takedown, and they can't admit that hackers are "having their way with" the system.  What would that do to public confidence?  It would end Obamacare.  Don't you guys get it?

Imagine their chagrin when some script kiddie puts up a "this site's security sucks" homepage...

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:32 | 4104215 johnQpublic
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much like having to pass it to see whats in it, you have to use it to see how bad it sucks

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:46 | 4104262 WillyGroper
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Perhaps the NSA is causing the degradation by their fiber tap/splice.

Bwhaaaaaaaaaaa

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:08 | 4104067 Headbanger
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No no no...  It's stuck in an infinite loop!   I should know cause I've written plenty of them myself!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:17 | 4104085 Keyser
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That's not a bug, it's a feature. 

 

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:35 | 4104112 max2205
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Can you hear me Now! 

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 11:28 | 4104828 mick_richfield
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How do you know they're really infinite?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:09 | 4104068 knukles
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You didn't build that website by yourself.
You had $650+ million in taxpayer funded help

Assholes

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:49 | 4104130 BidnessMan
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Think I still have some 80 column punch cards and my IBM flow charting template around somewhere. That might help!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:48 | 4104034 Azannoth
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Hey, I don't want to point fingers but Zero Hedge is becomming like Healthcare.gov, everytime I empty the browser cache it takes ZH 1 min to load! Fix it!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:24 | 4104201 fockewulf190
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I'm using an old assed iPad 1 right now and it loads fine. You must be linked to that part of the net Al Gore built.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 09:21 | 4104383 knukles
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I know HP-12C's are supposed to have some computing power, but....

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:38 | 4104022 Shizzmoney
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RE

our engineers have worked 24/7 to trouble-shoot issues with the site," the statement said.

Translation: we need to call India

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:45 | 4104031 GetZeeGold
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Hello, my name is Punjab.

 

Please hold for senior customer service from Quebec Canada.....you do speak French right?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:06 | 4104063 Headbanger
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Qui!

Bonjour, c'est Claude. Débranchez votre ordinateur pendant 30 miuntes et avoir un beau croissant avec un café et appeler bacl plus tard. Merci

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:11 | 4104072 knukles
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I must by Federal regulations ask you if you like curry slurries.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:20 | 4104089 Headbanger
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Non!  Ils sont merde dégoûtant pour retarde!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:13 | 4104080 MisterMousePotato
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When calling one of those push 1 for English, 2 for Spanish, etc., things, it is suggested that one select the number for Spanish.

Why? Well, very few Spanish speakers in India, so the call centers tend to be in the States, and, moreover, the Spanish speakers are almost universally bilingual, proficient in English - indeed, often it is their native tongue.

When asked why you picked the Mexican line, feign ignorance, whereupon they will say, "Oh, the phones must be fucked up again." Or maybe they'll think your to stupid to follow simple directions. Doesn't matter. They'll help all the same.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:48 | 4104270 Wahooo
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Very practical. Thanks.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 11:07 | 4104156 Urban Redneck
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You missed the first part of the quote-

The gov't supposedly asked them to provide additional capacity. That is a very different process than troubleshooting (unless Verizon is so incompetent that they do not know how to add capacity). Therefore either Verizon is performing work not requested, which is a crime if they try to bill HHS for it, or Verizon is lying about what the government asked them to do. Wasn't there some provision in SarbOx with fines and jail times for false press releases?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:42 | 4104026 SokPOTUS
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Someone dropped the tray of keypunch cards again...

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:44 | 4104029 SokPOTUS
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"Hello.  This is Technical Support.  Have you tried rebooting?"

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:06 | 4104038 GetZeeGold
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Well, I can take my shoes off.....but I don't really see how that's going to help.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:11 | 4104073 SokPOTUS
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"No, no, no.  Kick the machine - *hard* - *twice*."

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:11 | 4104070 Headbanger
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That's why we would draw several diagonal stripes across the tops and sides of a card deck to help put them back in order. It rarely worked.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:41 | 4104123 29.5 hours
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Dude, you made me suddenly flash my old Fortran days--and the incredibly loud keypunch room and the room filled with air-conditioned big metal and tape machines--all available only after midnight...

 

 

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 09:35 | 4104444 Liquid Courage
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We were told a cautionary tale about a not-so-bright programmer who wrote a format statement to print a huge array with a page feed instead of a line feed, and filled the printer room full of paper.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 10:35 | 4104629 FrankDrakman
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Well, I don't know about "only" available after midnight, but that's the only time I ever went (University of Toronto, late 70's, and always the night before the program was due, of course). Tension in the air so thick you could have served it as poundcake. Every keypunch macine taken. Every keypunch ribbon so threadbare, you could read a novel through it. Every T/A with a line stretching out the door. 40 people lined up at the card reader. And, always, always, always - at least two people on the floor, sobbing, with a spilled stack of cards clustered around them.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:44 | 4104030 BandGap
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This site crashes a lot too. Anyone else getting that?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:04 | 4104050 GetZeeGold
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Use Mozilla and get the NSA filter addon......should help a lot.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:08 | 4104054 NoDebt
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If you have IE, it's nearly unusable.  I installed Google Chrome which works much better with ZH pages, but it's still not a cure-all.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:13 | 4104079 Headbanger
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Firefox dudes. With Ghostery add-on. Plus you can add on the new Lightbeam plug in to see who all is spying on you!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:08 | 4104155 earnyermoney
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Plus on the Lightbeam although it's available for the latest version of FF which is 24.x or so

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:46 | 4104032 29.5 hours
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Be gentle with them. The site probably crashed from the unexpectedly huge and enthusiastic consumer traffic.

 

 

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 11:39 | 4104871 bread n circuses
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or Tea Party DOS attack.

that'll be then next group they blame.  'cuz they're rayciss.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:51 | 4104035 buzzsaw99
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Step 1) Take away people's existing health insurance.

Step 2) Make it impossible to get new policy.

 

#WINNING!

 

The maggot's plan for the average joe has always been the same: if you don't have money don't get sick. if you're broke and sick die quickly. if you have money or insurance die slowly.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:48 | 4104036 Bearwagon
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This picture shows a Commodore C 64-I. It has been one of the most advanced and most relieable computers at it's time. I still have a C-128-D and it never let me down in over twenty years. Dammit, if the crash of this shitty data-hub should be visualized, use a picture of the first IBM-PC - that would be much more appropriate than one of the finest Computers that have ever been built. ;-)

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:53 | 4104040 GMadScientist
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<scans office floor> Vic-20, TS 1000, Atari 400 (because you can snack while typing and then wipe down the keys!)

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 10:19 | 4104572 Boxed Merlot
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the first IBM-PC...

I still have a Charlie Chaplin advertized PC Jr.  My kids learned to program musical sounds on the keyboard and the thermal printer was awesome once you put a crease in the paper as it curled off the roll.  Just don't use it for archival purposes as the image tends to evaporate in time. 

As Obama's central ACA, (CACA) is up and running, will we be able to retire the need for SS#s?  I mean, now that my DNA is on file with .gov, won't that make my 9 digit entity equally useless. 

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:48 | 4104037 SokPOTUS
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They're trying to run each login through Obama's Blackberry.  And it would have worked fine, too; except he's on it 24/7 sending out spam e-mail.  Seems he thinks he's some sort of Kenyan Prince.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:51 | 4104039 GMadScientist
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Does this mean I'm not going to receive my wire transfer?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:53 | 4104042 SokPOTUS
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"I'm sorry Sir, but our computers are down at the moment.   Let me explain our toll-free number to you..."

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:55 | 4104044 Zero Point
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I got one of those emails.

Apparently he needs my bank account to transfer 8 billion dollars into, and I get 1% for the privelage.

He just needs my birth certificate for some reason....

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:53 | 4104041 Gringo Viejo
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"Ask not what your Country can do for you,

but rather ask who's to blame".....President B.O.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:54 | 4104043 nmewn
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What next?

Terrst tea-hadist, anarchist, hostage taking doctors...or sumpin.

"New York doctors are treating ObamaCare like the plague, a new survey reveals.

A poll conducted by the New York State Medical Society finds that 44 percent of MDs said they are not participating in the nation’s new health-care plan.

Another 33 percent say they’re still not sure whether to become ObamaCare providers.

Only 23 percent of the 409 physicians queried said they’re taking patients who signed up through health exchanges.

“This is so poorly designed that a lot of doctors are afraid to participate,” said Dr. Sam Unterricht, president of the 29,000-member organization. “There’s a lot of resistance. Doctors don’t know what they’re going to get paid.”

http://nypost.com/2013/10/29/docs-resisting-obamacare/

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:56 | 4104045 surf0766
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Verizon is being setup.  Why wasn't comcast asked to fix this?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:40 | 4104120 max2205
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Cause you can't get Showtime on Comcast

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:58 | 4104048 iLiquid
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Obviously Obamacare needs a taxpayer bailout.  And that means even more QE!  Bullish!

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:02 | 4104055 buzzsaw99
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obamacare is insanely bullish. in fact, the worse it doesn't work, the moar bullish it is.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:01 | 4104052 koaj
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either our government is incredibly inept and stupid or this is purposeful. most days i have trouble discerning between the two

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:05 | 4104060 buzzsaw99
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what we have here is a perfectly logical outcome. the laws are written by corporate lobbyists while the specifics of implementation are left to ineffectual bureaucrats.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:32 | 4104105 GetZeeGold
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Read Saul Alinsky....pretty sure it's on purpose.

 

The real question is.....can the crazy little dead bastard actually pull it off?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 09:18 | 4104371 Liquid Courage
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ineffectual bureaucrats

 

pretty sure that's redundant.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:06 | 4104062 NoDebt
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Oh, it's purposeful.  Obamacare was built to be a pathway to singe-payer.  Just they didn't expect it to go this bad this fast.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:02 | 4104053 Catullus
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Please blame Verizon. They're practically a government agency anyway. They live off big government contracts. Scumbags.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:05 | 4104059 Evil Franklin
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Obviously we can't "hear you now".

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:12 | 4104078 Jethro
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Somebody needs to tell Nigeria that Obamacare covers them too.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:21 | 4104090 SokPOTUS
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Crap.  Nigeria doesn't have nukes yet, do they?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:10 | 4104163 Duude
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I just got the email. A Nigerian navigator has guararanteed me the best Obamacare has to offer and it won't cost me a dime. I can't wait to send him my social security number.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:19 | 4104087 SokPOTUS
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I wonder if Jon Stewart has finished downloading every movie ever made yet?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:27 | 4104098 negative rates
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What's the difference between a contractor and a thief?

Thief work at night.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:30 | 4104102 goldenbuddha454
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That only means the telecoms, ie Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint etc., being private sector industries, need to be taken over by government (Like the Healthcare industry)  to make them more available and cheaper for the consumer.  :)

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:35 | 4104108 Fred123
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rofl....who couldn't see this coming? But tell you the truth, I didn't think 0bama and his cronies would look so stupid and pathetic in their excuses.....who elected these morons??? Oh yeah, darkies...voting twice or more with the full assistance of idiot liberals and academics.....

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:36 | 4104231 gregga777
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As Bugs Bunny would have said, "What a bunch of maroons!"

Q: How do you know when Obama's lying?

A: His lips are moving.

The most transparent administration in history? No. Obama's is the most dishonest administration of all time. Obama makes Richard Nixon look like a Saint! Everyone in Obama's administration are liars. But, what else could be expected from an incompetent Affirmative Action President?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 15:20 | 4105899 gregga777
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As Bugs Bunny would have said, "What a bunch of maroons!"

Q: How do you know when Obama's lying?

A: His lips are moving.

The most transparent administration in history? No. Obama's is the most dishonest administration of all time. Obama makes Richard Nixon look like a Saint! Everyone in Obama's administration are liars. But, what else could be expected from an incompetent Affirmative Action President?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:37 | 4104110 BudFox2012
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Please take down the picture of the Commodore 64 off this article.  In it's day in the 1980's, the Commodore 64 was a powerful, cost effective home computer millions of people found useful.  Nothing the goverment ever does is powerful, cost effective, or useful, so the two do not belong in the same article.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:08 | 4104152 Duude
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A bit protective of a relic doncha think?  That's what the government is, a relic.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:38 | 4104119 MilwaukeeMark
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Hey ... would you sheep just stop complaining and accept slavery already! It would save the politicians and bankers so much money dreaming up and running these faux  "we care about you" programs.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:41 | 4104121 MilwaukeeMark
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why do I always get this two for one double post?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 07:43 | 4104124 MilwaukeeMark
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nevermind, it's my Commadore 64's fault

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:05 | 4104148 ShrNfr
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The shit code does a DDOS on itself. It is a wonder that Vz can handle the traffic anytime.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 08:52 | 4104276 d edwards
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People, all these tech glithces etc, etc. is just smoke and mirrors. The real disaster is the 0bama(doesn't)Care law.

 

As that ignorant bitch Pel0si said we have to pass it before we can see whats in it. We're seeing what's in it and it's a fucking totalitarian nightmare-people losing perfectly good health insurance because their policy doen't "measure up" the the f-ed up "standards" in the law. So you end up with higher deductatbles, higher premiums and some bunch of f-ing bureaucrats running your very life.

 

Side note: this law has been modified (unlawfully) by 0bozo thru 1500-2000 waivers for his crony businesses, plus something like 15 exec orders that change parts of the law. Plus IT WAS SOLD TO US BY HIM WITH BLATANT LIES.

 

Just on the first two points alone, it seems the law should be null and void.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 09:17 | 4104368 WAMO556
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Verizon???

You mean the NSA!

Aren't the NSA folkes mad as hell at Obama?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 09:20 | 4104382 dizzyfingers
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Here's a contrasting story. Thank God for people who still think, invent, and reduce cost.

Need a Hand? Boy Gets Prosthetic Hand Made by 3-D Printer (Cost $5 vs. $30K Medical Device)

Posted: 29 Oct 2013 02:02 PM PDT

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 09:23 | 4104391 Van Halen
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Verizon is out of their effing minds getting involved in this mess. They're going to take the hit over and over and over until Obama skates in a month with higher than ever poll numbers and the people demanding higher taxes and universal child care.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 09:52 | 4104500 post turtle saver
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remember folks... it takes a village... of idiots, apparently

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 10:05 | 4104533 Stuck on Zero
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The problem was traced to the main 850 MHz Pentium server running windows NT.

 

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 10:14 | 4104560 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Can you hear me now? No? Goooood.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 12:07 | 4104984 Kirk2NCC1701
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A company is only as good as its people.  The problem with Verizon and ALL large corporations, is that their HR policies (dictated by their General Counsel weasels) cause them to hire people who should not be hired in a "free market".

Their call centers are filled with people whose charm and syrupy politeness earns them a 10 out of 10 (for their rigged surveys -- rigged by what's there and what's missing!), but earns them a 1-6 for their competence.  Chances are quite good that whatever "problem resolution" gymnastics you went through with them, will have been a wasted exercise and that the billing problem will persist.  Even on the second and third attempt, by which time you got the "supervisor" involved.

E.g.  I said:"... let me ask you this...", and I got back "ok, fine... but let me aks you this..."  "Aks" me?  WTF is "aks" me?  These fuckers can't even speak proper English!  Are they now hiring dyslexics (for HR points), or is this some new language trend I don't know about?

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 12:26 | 4105072 MeelionDollerBogus
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Conclusion: it's really a bitcoin mining operation & there's not enough resources to do the thing they pretended they were going to do.
And it works as well as shitcoin itself.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 12:53 | 4105188 PT
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Sob, sob.  Please Tylers, I'll ask you again.  Take the photo away.  Please don't blame the Commodore 64.  It's not it's fault.  Computers from that era were reliable.

I'm quite sure that the US govt could have issued every person in the US with a C64, a CRT TV, modem, disc drive and appropriate software and it would be cheaper and they'd now all have O'care and it would be working. 

Disclaimer:  I never owned a C64 but I did have 2 other computers from that era and they both still work.  The C64 was still winning awards even when it was way past it's use-by date ( eg, a similarly priced computer came with twice the memory, colour monitor, faster disc drive (while the C64 disc drive was still an extra ) and 4 times the clock speed ), purely because of it's large customer base and software availability.  

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 13:52 | 4105472 bugs_
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Do you phear me now?

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