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Health Secretary Sebelius: "Hold Me Accountable For The Debacle"
In what can only be characterized as a stunning moment of transparency for the Obama administration, now 5 years into its reign of "unprecedented transparency" not to mention hope and change, US Health Secretary actually did the unthinkable: she took responsibility. "Hold me accountable for the debacle," Sebelius said in response to accusations at a congressional hearing today that her deputies failed to do their jobs. "I’m responsible."
Whether this means that Verizon, and especially Dubya can rest peacefully now knowing it won't somehow be his fault, remains to be seen - Obama will speak on healthcare at 3:55 pm and it is never too late to scapegoat the former president for this and that. However, we do applaud that finally the buck stops somewhere in the Obama chain of command. Sadly, taking responsibility for an epic failure does not equate to submitting one's resignation: after all this is the government, not the private sector. And in the government failure can only be encouraged.
Watch the exchange below:
More from Bloomberg:
In a contentious exchange, lawmakers quizzed Sebelius on the malfunctioning website set up as part of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010. They also raised privacy concerns, asked about broken promises that people would be able to keep existing medical plans and questioned whether there was a way to penalize the contractors that built the site.
“I am as frustrated and angry as anyone with the flawed launch of healthcare.gov,” Sebelius told the House Energy and Commerce Committee. “Let me say directly to these Americans: you deserve better. I apologize."
She continued...
“There isn’t a built-in penalty but I can tell you that paying for work that isn’t complete is not something that we will do,” Sebelius said.
Committee Chairman Fred Upton, a Michigan Republican, said “Americans are scared and frustrated.” He cited constituents’ concern that their existing health policies would be canceled, their premiums would rise or they would face tax penalties.
... but is happy to remain in her post. Naturally, any attempt to confirm a new Health Secretary in the current Congress would be complicated at best, and the last thing Obamacare needs is to have a permanently busted website, and a ponzi funding scheme whose funding accumulation is woefully behind schedule, with zero supervision.
More than 30 House Republicans and at least three U.S. senators are asking for Sebelius to step down. They include Senators Pat Roberts of Kansas and John Barrasso of Wyoming, as well as Representative Paul Ryan, the Republican vice presidential candidate in 2012 whose losing campaign promised to repeal the Affordable Care Act if elected.
“The bottom line is the problems with Obamacare run deeper than just the website,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, a Virginia Republican, said yesterday at a news conference.
That much is clear, and increasingly so even to the "most transparent administration in history."
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Whatever.
Hold them ALL accountable
Ive been told to insulate my handlers
One of two things are possibly happening here:
1 - This entire bunch of Libs are great thinkers, but incapable of even operating a fruit stand properly OR
2 - This was done intentionally.
1 scares me, but 2 make me pee down my own leg.
It doesn't matter. In America there's no such thing as failure. It's all always okay. People fail upwards for their entire career. In China they get dismissed, occasionally imprisoned, and if it's off-the-charts-bad they get shot. Which society is going to produce better results?
There's a term for that in the West. It's called the Peter Principle.
It's all the power hungry cock-suckers in the 3 branches of government that deemed this to be law.
They just told her to say so, so the Dear Leader would not get blamed.
Once again the Republicans are late to the party. Where were they when this Frankenstein monster was being stitched together? Out running for re-election I presume.
Its wonderful to assume responsibility once the milk's been spilled, but where was the parental supervision while the Wookie's Princeton cronies were turning lemons into vinegar. Oh that's right Sibelius was out on the used car lot selling a big fat lemon to the American public.
What does she care if they hold her responsible. The worst that can happen is a slap on the wrist and getting fired or moved to another position.
At the end of the tunnel I'm sure she has a benefits package waiting for her for taking the fall on this one.
Don't worry Sebelius we have this nice stashed account for you, do as we say and it is yours.
OK.... Where's your resignation then?
Such crap....
Exactly!
Back in the "Old Days", publicly admitting such a gross failure in your job meant resigning or falling on your sword or sumpthin (thx, nmewn!)
EDIT:
Where is Obama´s resignation?
/LOL
I hear this word "accountable" yet the same trash is still fucking everybody over.
One might suspect a conspiracy or something is afoot...
Dump on government but ... in the private sector, a really big failure gets you a bailout, ten-figure bonus, stock options, and a golden parachute. Sibelius is a little minnow compared to Angelo Mozilo.
She probably wishes she was the doofus who blew up AIG, because he retired a mega-millionaire.
You mean the government run private sector?
It's indistinguishable from the private sector run government.
They'll just be replaced with another spawn of the devil.
Who gives a shit if someone's held accountable? There will be no consequences.
Oh that sound? It was nothing. Just me falling on my sword for the president, Democrats and their associated statists, the health insurance industry for whom this whole fucking thing is a massive rip off subsidy, mom and pop who'll never again have insurance, the National Association of Healthcare Insurers from whom I've accepted the job as executive director at $7millions a year and of course, my great friend and mentor, Minnie Mouse
Aaaagrragh!
You are absolutely correct.
Politics is all about protecting the "king" from the invading barbarians. In the case of the IRS scandle, the barbarians bashed through the outer defenses (It was low level employees in Cincinati) and crossed the moat to IRS officials in Washington DC, but they never could break through the castle gates.
This time they are approaching the gate. Sebelius is defending the gate. She will not be fired until she has first been mortally wounded. Otherwise the barbarians can attack the castle's inner line of defense (Valarie Jarrett and crew) and then it is on the the King's throne.
"Lucky me, my sword was a cardboard prop!"
So Sebelius is the scapegoat, eh? Big fucking deal. I want heads on pikes here, of everybody who wrote this clusterfuck of a law and everybody who voted for this clusterfuck of a law. One skinny fugly grey head on a pike won't cut it.
I've always said a head on a stick does wonders to effectively communicate one's point.
She's falling on her sword to save Obama
That metaphor implies some sort of consequence, since swords are painful and death disadvantageous. No one's resigned yet, nor has anyone been re-hired at greater salary as a health insurance corporation "consultant" sine cura, aka lobbyist. So, it's more like she's asking other people to talk about her possibly falling on some sort of rubber sword, or perhaps pillow in the shape of a fierce-looking kitten.
By the look of her, not only does she like falling on swords, but she also likes falling on rubber dongs strapped to nubile young debuntantes.
I'll bet her and Hilary have shared a few rubber dongs together
I half-expected her to show up today sporting a big bump on her head, Mr. Magoo glasses, and selective amnesia.
Like anyone would take her seriously after that.
She'll make a fine VP.
Sibelius: "Senator, I want you to come over here, and kick me in the butt!"
Senator: "Um, I really don't think that's necessary..."
Sibelius: "I'm not asking, I'm telling! Get over here, and kick me in the butt!"
I am waiting for her to say "we had to break the Health Care system before we could save it".
The first commenter above had it exactly correct.
"Whatever"
The law is forever. It will never be repealed. It is the first step on a 10-15 year journey to single payer. The sheeple have spoken and they will speak again for single payer.
There are not enough people who give a shit. The ones that do have representatives who don't give a shit. The representatives that do give a shit are too few in number.
The ones of you who spout off about the Constitution this and the Constitution that and the Founding Fathers.....and blah, blah, blah....are too chicken shit to pick up the gun like those Founding Fathers and Patriots did to defend the right to draw up a Constitution in the first place.
So....there you go........what the fuck ever.
It's all Kabuke Bukkake Circle Jerk until the Collapse. Then we'll just get another shitty form of government full of shitty people from a shitty population.
Same as it ever was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRILLqV0l58
"I am waiting for her to say "we had to break the Health Care system before we could save it".
In addition to that........
"We had to launch the web site to see if it needed fixing."
Congratulations America.....you are now part of the largest beta test in computer history.
Wow, a brief moment of hope. Almost had me going there
I think they meant "the most dangerous administration in history".
+1 The only transparency in this administration is the edible panties Obomber dons for Reggie.
What's a guy gotta do to get on that one way trip to Mars?
Show your Tea Party Decoder Ring
Huh?
Don't ask. Just climb in the rocket.
Damn, she must have one hell of a platnium parachute.
Edit: Anyone else find it peculiar on the time of Obama's speech?
The WH communications office has finally learned. They tell Obama to start at 3:30pm, and tell the rest of us when he'll actually get around to it.
If his tee time is after 10:30, he won't be on time for his monologue.
??? really? hold you accountable? Fine, return all the wealth you accumulated during your "public service" or face the guillotine and give us your fucking head.
This is a good sign people, be optimistic.
Just like the banksters and assorted pension looters did, right?
they're next...
(in a "perfect" world of course, more popcorn for your bread and circuses?)
The Banking bailout has formed a new 'template' for government funding.
Next week the (created) 'crisis' will force a discussion of adding healthcare to the FED's list of priorities.
FED printing (for any amount) is a "Eugene Fama NON-EVENT" and FREEEE.
/waiting
Bread and Circus
People, this is all part of the circus! What is going on that they do not want you to see?
Exactly. Obama even told his MSM to unleash on this one (and they always do as told). There must be something else they are trying to keep covered up. Probably the fact they just found out Biden is a robot fueled by alcohol.
Hey, I resemble that remark!
LOL at Joan of Arc here. The One is almost out of rope when he needs these bureaucrats to lay down under the cart wheels. I am truly enjoying watching this farce fall apart.
Moi? I am glad I can´t watch her (in Peru on a visit), that´s why I really like checking in with Zero Hedge (especially comments) as often as possible.
The ultimate "Mandingo" sacrifice, fall on her sword (or his).
HAHAHA
Looks like Obama needs moar cover for this disaster. What a surprise.
Hillary said we should hold her accountable for Benghazi and we saw how that worked out. "What difference does it make!"
How's about I just hold your witch ass under water for a day or two?
Water only works on witches in the movies. You have to tie this witch to a stake and burn her.
Good point. Go full Salem, Just to be sure....
One thing is clear. In a huge display of bipartisanship policy makers in that room unanimously seem to know nothing about anything related to the facts on Obamacare.
Everyone says "I'm responsible." But so what? That is meaningless unless there are consequences. And as one of our masters, she will face none.
+1000 Without consequences, what is the point of apportioning blame? For fuck's sake, Corzine is still running loose. No Congressional inquiry put that rat bastard behind bars, so I expect nothing to happen to Sebelius.
Ok you're accountable. You have worked night and day at undermining the US constitution, and destroying the bill of rights. You're accountable? Ok, would you prefer the gallows or the chair?
OK... you're accountable...now you're fired, as any other person would be with 1/1,000th the fuckup, and we'll begin the corruption investigations and decide what your incarceration period should be, bitch!
I am reminded of David Frye's imitation of Nixon back in the 70s:
"I take all of the responsibility - but none of the blame."
How long did Janet Reno stay in office after taking responsibility for the murders in Waco, TX? Responsibility and accountability mean nothing to these DC elitists. When was the last time anyone in DC got in trouble? Was it the Keating 5? And McCain got off anyway.
How about holding responsible everyone who voted to spend money we didn't have, with forfeiture of pay, retirement benefits, etc., being the initial penalty. Followed by a trip to the guillotine.
"I'm responsible": NO SHIT SHERLOCK!
(but it's a great step in the right direction)
Where is that dog in tutu post ?? Sums this farce up perfect.
Ok I will: you're fired, you fucking incompetent bitch.
Vinnie, get my bat....
Nice of her to finally take responsibility for O'Sebelius Care.
She is taking "accountability" for the poor rollout.
Not the website.
Not the ACA law.
and definitely not "RESPONSIBILITY".
Accountability might mean she added up the numbers wrong or didn't keep track of the numbers...not that she is in any way responsible.
In this 'narrow' reading she basically is saying she is ONLY responsible for not adding up the numbers correctly on the rollout.
Parsing strongly now...she said she is "responsible" for not being "accountable". So its her fault she was not accountable.
That is a lawer type reading.
In the end, beauty saves the beast.
LOL, except I think that here it is really the beast is trying to save the beauty. At least that what Reggie Love says...
Right then. Sack this cow on the spot. She looses her pension rights, healthcare, the whole lot.
Lets really hold folk 'Accountable' for the shit they inflict on the public at large.
And dont forget a servere jail term as a warning to others for outright incompetence on the job, that seriously hurt the public at large??
No? I didnt think so.
As lawsofphysics says, roll the fucking guillotines. That is the 'Accountabilility' these fuckers are due.
Once again, right on time my brother
Its nigh on hard to grasp Pat.
We are the voice of reason. ZH and all who contribute here are the sanest fuckers I have ever read anywhere on the interwebs. Long may we all sail friend. Accountability? The fucking thieving, public funded cunts couldnt spell it.
;-)
My fingers are getting so tired from doing so many greean arrows...
:)
A gentlemans work is never done DoChen.
;-)
MOAR GREAN ARROWS, kind sirs!
Note: She's "taking responsibilty" only for the poor rollout. She is not, and will not, acknoledge that there is any problem with ObamaCare itself, which is still the gold standard of Leftist wet dreams.
That's because she knows the website can and will be fixed. As for the underlying law, she wouldn't fuck that with your dick, let alone her's.
JaJaJa, you're right, and she and her accomplices will NOT be subject to the provisions of the "Act".
Sebelius the victim of ACA !
She was just implementing the flawed architecture.
Just a few million new pages of law needed to fix the logic, and $100B to fund the fix, and then $1T to implement the fix completely.
I imagine before the 'fix is in' there will be squids and monitors involved.
Maybe they will implant 'pull devices' on our hearts, in addition to the squids, to minimize the death panel cost rollout. And only one judge ruling will be required. Fast and Furious.
/waiting
She shoulda called the cops when Pelosi first ass-raped her with a dildo ...
She's just taking the fall, as planned. This gives the false impression that things will get better, when we at ZH all know that it will only get worse. I honestly believe that the difficulties with the website were essentially planned, as this keeps as many as possible from knowing the truth. The duality of realities presented by the old and new media, with the former attempting to infiltrate the latter and confuse the narrative (paid comments, blogs), is an interesting study in what people do when presented with a false reality, and are given gradual glimpses of the truth. How long do they hold onto the fantasy? How many junkies clean up? It's going to be interesting to find out.
It DOES have that pre-planned failure feel about it...
And the Consequences of you taking "responsibility" will be... what? A lateral for now, and a promotion for 2016-2020?
Dibs. I called it first.
It's a bitter pill to swallow...
but these buffoons wouldn't know a bit from a byte even if a bit took a bite outta Barry's behind
So is this an offer to RESIGN?
A preview of O's speech for today.
I'm here, in Boston, to rub it in the American voters' collective faces. A mile or so from here, Mitt Romney, a politician and former ceo, was able to roll out RomneyCare.
But you folks, YOU didn't elect him. YOU, you voted for me, a community organizer. Now, that it is clear that I can't run something as complicated as a lemonade stand. I would like to help out by organizing a couple of rallies and follow that up with some candlelight vigils. I will also travel the country speaking about how great it will be when someone, not me, finally fixes it.
this fucking bitch knows the plan from the get go was to create a FAIL and then rescue all the stupid free lunch motherfukers with a SINGLE PAYER ALL ALONG.... she, the apollo group, van jones, rham and his stupid brother and a few others craeted this abortion and pelosi and reid (who would eat shit or suck your dick for a dollar) shoved it up Amerika's ass.
No accident Barry's up in Mass. today for his speech.
Revisionist history in the works from the progressives as they try to extricate themselves from their POS by saying it's based on RomneyCare. See it's Romney's fautl that ACA is failing.
Progressive blogs have been parroting that BS since the beginning of Oct.
Oh yes = the local propaganda arms up here had stories on first thing this morning explaining how there were a lot of problems with Romney care in Mass when first implemented but now, get this, MOST PEOPLE IN MASSACHUSETTS LIKE THE LAW.
THen they went on to say 'that's why President Obama is in Massachusetts today to explain that eventually everyone will like the ACA."
I'd a figured he was in Massachusetts today to see the World Series and get a little from the 'Honorable' Deval Patrick.
He'll be at tonight's game and he'll be interviewed in the booth at some point in the game about the benefits of ZeroCare.
Joe Buck: Mr. president, I'm really stumped as to why Americans don't understand, or are angry with the affordable care act. It's an all-American idea!
Bumbler: Um yes. That's right, but you know Joe, we still are fighting, er, um, the racism of the 20th century
Tim McCarver: True dat, prez, true dat!
Sounds good to me. Then keys make an example out if get and hang her first
Anyone know how to insert a gif into a comment so that it shows up properly?
become a contributor.
“Let me say directly to these Americans: you deserve better. I apologize."
Here is your sweet , people . Sooo ..., happy ?
Well, move on .
BTW, who are "... these Americans: ..." ?
Kathleen, newsflash for you: A complex project like Obamacare doesn't just come about by appointing people on the basis of loyalty. It comes about by hiring THE BEST Program and Project Managers (PM) that Bernanke's QE can buy. This will include PM guys who are GOP (and at least 1 Libertarian), not Dem's. I'm 99.9% certain of this.
The political hacks have come home to roost: Reverse Darwinism is a real bitch!
I had a boss like her once. Female. Nasty. Looked older than her age on paper would suggest. Really just quite the bitter bitch.
In that kind of world butt kissing and subservience are rewarded as long as they know who is master and who is footstool.
And of course competence in that kind of environment is swiftly punished because competence in their minds is a THREAT to their visibility rather than an asset which benefits the whole.
Complex...Obama doesn't get even simple things. If it isn't on the teleprompter....it is too complex....
her corporate reward will be enormous
Multiple Choice Question:
To REALLY hold Govt Apparatchiks accountable, bring back:
a) The Stocks
b) Tarring & Feathering
c) The Ducking Stool
d) The Iron Maiden
e) The Rack
f) The Gallows
g) The Guillotine
h) Ol' Sparky
OR
i) All Of The Above.
Don't forget about the Pillory. It's like the Stocks, but much more visible and humiliating. I would like to add Branding with hot irons too. Forhead and cheeks please, other areas optional.
Re Stocks vs Pillories. Excellent point & duly noted
Re Branding. Face cheeks or bum cheeks? Or maybe both?
hehe. I was thinking more along the lines of visibility. Face & Hands would be ideal. Anything else is at the discretion of the brander, and hey, why not, we the people deserve to have a little fun with these cowardly thieving fucks.
Friendly amendment: the "Buckwheats"
It's basically Vlad the Impaler for our times. A well placed .357 wadcutter straight up the nickleslot.
Let em bleed out and contort.
For further research, see Things to do in Denver when you're Dead.
Highly recommended viewing.
Ouch!
Zevon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOyoPALBrE
Hang her. Hang them all
Wait, is this the kind of responsibility where the person loses their job, pension and benefits and is pretty much unemployable the rest of their lives>
Or, is the kind of responsibility where they keep their job and the media talks about it for half a day and it's done. Then two months later is promoted to secretary of defense or some other nonsense?
Just wondering
Tar and feather this harpy, then ride her out on a rail, and throw her in the Potomac. Repeat the process each day for each successive person "in charge" of this boondoggle.
So when do US Citizens get their money back for NON-Delivery of Product?
Oh, never? That's what I figured.
Time for the whirlwind of death if you ask me. So many tens of thousands need to hang in judgement for a multitude of wrongs before the account can even come close to being settled.
Competence? Who needs competence when you have politically appointments based on loyalty (subservience) and favors for favors?
Shit rolls downhill and she is not at the top of it............
It is a start though.
1. As someone mentioned earlier.....these sickeningly disgusting dog-n-pony shows are utterly and completely worthless.....as are the 'shockingly indignant' members of congress participating in them. Accountability? Yeah, Jon Corzine style 'accountability' maybe.
2. Note how none of this soap-opera production focuses on the f**king ILLEGAL nature of BarryCare in the first place. Rather, its a giant panty-wadding over some ridonkulous technial failure to implement this latest tyranny. They're conditioning the average boobus amerikanus to be upset that the giant ass-raping they're taking is encountering some 'technical glitches'.
These vermin ALL deserve nice Mussolini-method spinal decompression treatments.
I still hold the congress responsible. They saw the polls, they knew this was a fly-blown turd when they passed it. Sebelius is the designated sword swallower, but they're all equally culpable except congressmen that voted against it.
You mean the Red team? Not one Blue teamer voted for this POS. Having said that, I'm under no illusion that the Blue team wants to scrap this fascist wet dream. The blue team wants to "fix" the law to direct money to their campaign contributors.
Red team? So you are blaming the Republicans? I thought it was the blue team (Democrats) who forced this crap on us...
The red team was the blue team until about 2000. I think the D's thought "Red" was hitting a little too close to home.
Stop > Go back > Reverse
what happened here? Paul complains that several key redactions have been made since the bill passed, just how does that work? i think we aboandones government according to our hs civics course a lot time ago, when potus presents bills with no time for the reps to read it, (and yes Congress passed the budget but potus presents it) and then the reps use cloture to prevent bills from coming up for a vote, or an up and down vote, congress is a procedural nightmare, and i blame potus, the office has been on mission creep for a couple decades, until bush the unitary decider finally made it clear he was the only one in charge. obama said sweet, the great dictator took over. but until congress actually impeachs and removes a president the balance of power will stacked in favor of executive
Takin' the fall for the Community Organizer/Droner in Chief!
She'll be an Executive at Humana after she resigns.
Yep. All the progressive craka bitchez under the bus.
She'll mint a fortune lobbying for the Insurace industry.
If she had a shred of honour she would spill the beans on this entire fiasco. Name names. That should lead all the way to the top - right to Valerie Jarrets office.
Spoken like a true Zealot.
She's going down. In the minds of these people competence is considered a threat because they see the potential that those below them who are competent and responsible might one day supplant them. Thus competence is to be quashed under heel, or otherwise driven out of the realm.
Don't worry, they've got a cushy job all lined up for her somewhere......
Clueless GOP fools asking her to step down because in their intolerable ignorance they pretend to harbor some cockamamie notion that someone 15 layers above the level where all, and I mean ALL, depends on the abilitly of the techical support personnel to design, code, and adequately test an enormous IT project with an impossible deadline, could somehow achieve the impossible.
The stupidiity in congress, particularly on the GOP side is beyond comprehension.
Get Donald Trump to say "
Sebelius your fired!Hmmm, think this is part of it?:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/canadian-officials-fired-it-firm-behind-troubled-obamacare-website/article/2537101
Canadian provincial health officials last year fired the parent company of CGI Federal, the prime contractor for the problem-plagued Obamacare health exchange websites, the Washington Examiner has learned.
CGI Federal’s parent company, Montreal-based CGI Group, was officially terminated in September 2012 by an Ontario government health agency after the firm missed three years of deadlines and failed to deliver the province’s flagship online medical registry.
And Barry still keeps this useless cunt employed. Nice join Barry - fucking asshole.
Barry loves her, especially when she "takes the blame" even though it is short of "falling on the sword".
Can we also hold her accountable for pushing the entirely unnecesary and inherently dangerous swine flu vaccine?
She helped panic the nation over a nonexistent pandemic. The beneficiaries were the pharmaceutical companies, the very same companies that aren't being made to bear any responsibility for the insanely high cost of healthcare.
she's counting on CONgressional gumming-to-death, but will fall upon her sword if she must for the great 0ne.
the next time one of these dick swizzles makes this disingenuous statement "I take full responsiblity" I expect someone (elected to represent the people) to counter "Then can we assume you have submitted your resignation??.."
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Oh, where are the cries for this query?!
(Ya beats me to it, here.)
Otherwise, I ain't holding my breath…
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V-V
"Hold Me Accountable For The Debacle"
O.K., You’re fired.
We’ll, I didn’t mean that accountable.
Unfortunately, she doesn't mean accountable the Exorbitant Scare Act, she only means the website glitches. She want credit for the ACA.
Bureaucratic Cunt
Favorite term I've heard so far to describe this process:
ClusterFuckNado
"Kathleen, you're doing one heck of a job!"
-- Obama
"We'll support your bid for the VP slot in Hillary's 2016 run."
Her offshore accounts just went CHA-CHING!
Its only $700MM, the FEd can print that in a millisecond...
sarc/
Hold me accountable. Does that even mean anything? Like saying "I am a sandwich" and everyone nodding their heads vigorously in agreement as though that settles the issue.
Does that mean we can organize a slam dunk class action suite against her personal assets for the damage she has done like she was a doctor or a plumber?
Reverse psychology only works when people take pity and don't call your bluff.
Even then if she "takes" responsibility, the question is what is the punishment? Slap on wrist, step down for a year or two and then pick up an even cushier job?