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Document Reveals Official NSA Talking Points: Use 9/11 Attacks As A "Sound Bite"
Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
Al Jazeera America has done some great work in obtaining the official NSA talking points via a Freedom of Information Act request. As might be expected, the agency tells its people to use the attacks on September 11, 2001 to manipulate public opinion into accepting unacceptable levels of surveillance. As I have maintained over and over again for years, our overreaction to 9/11 has done exponentially more damage to the nation than any terrorist attack ever could. I penned my latest thoughts on the attacks last month in my piece: How I Remember September 11, 2001.
One of the highlights, actually lowlights, of the document is what the NSA refers to as a “soundbite that resonates.” Here it is:
I much prefer to be here today explaining these programs, than explaining another 9/11 event that we were not able to prevent.
More from Al Jazeera America:
The National Security Agency advised its officials to cite the 9/11 attacks as justification for its mass surveillance activities, according to a master list of NSA talking points.
The document, obtained by Al Jazeera through a Freedom of Information Act request, contains talking points and suggested statements for NSA officials (PDF) responding to the fallout from media revelations that originated with former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.
Invoking the events of 9/11 to justify the controversial NSA programs, which have caused major diplomatic fallout around the world, was the top item on the talking points that agency officials were encouraged to use.
Under the subheading “Sound Bites That Resonate,” the document suggests the statement “I much prefer to be here today explaining these programs, than explaining another 9/11 event that we were not able to prevent.”
The NSA has not yet turned over to Al Jazeera the documents the agency used to prepare the talking points, saying those materials require additional review before they can be released.
I can only imagine what’s in those…
The master talking points list goes on to explain, under a subheading titled “We Needed to Connect the Dots,” that “post-9/11 we made several changes and added a number of capabilities to enable us to connect the dots.”
I suppose there were too many dots to connect in the Boston bombing. Oh let me guess, if you only had more spy powers you could’ve stopped it!
Full article and link to the source documents here.
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The boot on my neck is becoming a nuisance.
The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.
Edward Bernays
All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.
Adolf Hitler
So wait... What if this survallance was the original goal? Would that mean 9/11 was a "Pearl Harbor like attacK" that would make government involvement easier?
Uh...
Like you mean the attack on the WTC on 9/11 that they knew of but did not prevent?
There, fixed it for ya'.
(first time I've ever used that line, BTW)
when you commit something, you automatically don't prevent it
Honestly this is not new. People saw this going on way before 9/11.
We have been living under the government's thumb for a long time.
Good Will Hunting nailed it 14 years ago...
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/10/will-hunting-had-it-right-14-years...
They paid good taxdollars for those attacks. Might as well get their moneys worth.
Opening the eyes of financially educated people on 9/11 I only have them to listen to Andy Gause's 9/11 special of all the financial aspects of it. You don't have to talk about planes and buildings, just financial facts.
http://oneradionetwork.com/the-real-world-of-money/andrew-gause-and-the-real-world-of-money-911-anniversary-special-following-the-money-where-no-man-has-ever-gone-before-september-11-2013/
Linking to a for-pay site for 9/11 information? You gotta be shitting me.
A down arrow? Sheeesh! Like there's a dearth of freely-available information sites on the web.
www.ae911truth.org
911 exposé that's covers all the main angles and ....
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=14
"9/11 Commission Report: The Most Ridiculous Conspiracy Theory Of All Time"It wasn't going to be hard to stop another 9/11. Just put some fucking locks on the pilots cabin door and you are good to go. Just don't go paranoid on us and try to stop all types of terrorism, all types of ways at all kinds of costs. You could go bankrupt that way, Mr. Patriot Act.
Hearteningly(is that a word?) ,
Thre are a few papers(NYT,WAPO..) Working on Major articles to expose/make public the economic madness that is "Homeland Security".Basicaly revealing how "another 9/11"created fear is used to entrench a system that in reality can Never prevent any thinking individual "evil doer" (Lol)
BTW,those papers hate Greenwald/Snowden,not because of what they've contributed but because they failed to print inicially.
It'll be great fun to see the toes held to the fire particularly in lite of Snowden releases !
Soon Clapper and Alexander will be asked to fall on their swords.
One has to believe the government's conspiracy theory (which is patently ridiculous) to believe the solution lies with locks on pilots' cabin doors.
I'm still far more fearful of lightning than I am of terrorists ... and I fear lightning not at all.
So many elements have spun this narrative from so many different angles, you have revealed the central back channel propaganda lie that has escaped me all these years. My hat is off to you, DaveyJones.
“Bombshell NSA conversation caught on tape!”
*****
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=2341
Gotta make it rhyme, like the NSA does.
The Dicking
is getting
Pricking
I'd rather be here explaining the boot on your neck than explaining another 9/11.
I'd rather be here explaining just about anything else then explaining what really happened on 9/11.
This is an NSA press release. Not something Al Jazeera has "exposed"
al FUCKING jizimmm ira whatever!
What the hell is going on in this country?
Get this straight,I will Not bow,
I will not wrap my wife and daughter in a towel!
Bring it!
Sad when a "muslim" mouthpiece (supposedly) has more journalistic credibility than the journalists of the nation they are reporting on. The only towel here is the one wrapped around your eyes and ears.
This nations 'journalists' are in fact, if not members of the tribe, directly controlled by the tribe.
The only way to eliminate this infestation of lizards and lizard culture is to embrace the Muslim. 2% of the population is running the whole show? And running it into the fucking dirt!
Welcome to America 2013 my Muslim comrades. Please help us! I want my fucking country back!!
Over.
Statement of Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, US Marine Corps (ret)
Retired US Marine Corps Fighter Pilot
February 20, 2007
"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It about our country. The following is not a great analogy, but it will have to do.
Suppose you went on vacation and asked your neighbor to watch your house - gave him a key. You get a call while away and it's your neighbor describing how some burglers were seen going through your house. You rush home find your house ransacked with lots of breakage, and go next door to talk to the neighbor. He tells you that he called the police that night but it took them an hour and 1/2 to get there, even though the police station is a couple of blocks away. You notice some objects in his living room that look like stuff you had. In fact his kids are wearing clothes you swear were in your children's closets. You quiz him closer and ask him to describe the thieves. They are all 5'10" and have beards, and were wearing black masks, and there were 19 of them. Nobody else saw them. You notice your neighbor has a new TV - he has often admired your set - and it is just like yours that was taken. The police don't have any record of any calls at the time the burglers were allegedly there. Your front door has no damage and they can't find out how the thieves could have got in. Then after a while you notice little lies being told by the neighbor, about other things. He claims that he returned all the tools he borrowed from you and bought some just like them, but you can't find yours.
Are you suspicious yet?
You just check the serial numbers of the TV to match against your paper records and find they have been filed off. Is it worth investigating?
Are you a conspiracy theorist if you want to know more about what went on while you were away? Is it unreasonable to ask for explanations of the false statements? If your neighbor won't look you in the eye, and won't talk to you without his lawyer (or his vice president), is that anything to worry about? If you notice the local police chief wearing a suit just like you used to have, right down to the loose inside button, are you paranoid?
The circumstances above would produce confusion and doubts in the best of us. Who can you trust? What if the cops are just part of a crime ring? Then imagine that it isn’t your neighborhood, but it’s your country. A place you thought you knew and in which you felt safe. Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.
If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? Scholars for 9/11 truth have developed reams of scientific data. Michael Ruppert published an exhaustive account of the case from the viewpoint of a trained investigator. David Ray Griffin provides a context for the unanswered or badly answered questions that should nag at anyone who pretends to love this country.
Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? I think I know some people in that category. Are you afraid you will draw the attention of thugs who could do the things that were done that day? Do you believe your fellow man is just not capable of that degree of evil? I would not have believed that my country would ever become a torture state and have the Congress arguing with the executive about it. I thought that Habaes Corpus was fundamental to our civil rights, and now I find that it is not. I thought my country stood for honorable dealings with other nations, then watch a jingoistic cheerleading orgy on TV, composed like Oscar night, with the centerpiece a campaign of "Shock and Awe" as our armed forces invade a practically defenseless nation, without provocation, while considerable doubt of the validity of the reasons for that invasion exists. Our fearless leader clings to lies until they are untenable and then disowns them as though he never spoke them. We, who can pillory a president of one party for lying about sex cannot call to account a repeated and habitual liar of another who sends more than 3100 of our soldiers to their deaths - for what?
Some point at the fact that the "Scientific Community" is largely silent. There apparently is no "scientific community". We have lots of scientists who work in government-funded research institutes and who work for universities funded by government money - mostly defense related. Do a little research project and see how well whistle-blowers have prospered since the Boy King ascended the throne. Look at how Professor Stephen Jones' career went after he challenged openly the collapse of the WTC buildings in peer-reviewed articles. Listen to his lecture on Google video, then read the accounts of how Brigham Young University ran for cover by putting him on leave and kowtowing to those who questioned his qualifications. Look up Sibel Edmonds, check into John M. Cole. Then, look at how Coleen Rowley has made out after putting it all on the line for her country. Look up Mike Ruppert, a gutsy cop who never blinked as he exposed CIA crime has fled the country after having the type of tactics that might make Tony Soprano ashamed used against him and his "From the Wilderness website. Then look at the fortunes of David Frasca and Spike Bowman two FBI supervisors who stonewalled the intelligence that might have exposed the 9/11 plotters, who were then promoted and rewarded. Compare and contrast the fortunes of those who come out with factual information unfavorable to the administration with those who play ball and make the right noises on the Sunday morning shows.
Do a little research. Google is a wonderful tool.
What does it all add up to? The Commission was, as was the Warren Commission before it, a dog and pony show for the amusement of the flock who might have accidently looked up from American Idol for a moment and caught a glimpse of it, but then saw that the other sheeple were quietly grazing. Then they went back to munching while the wolves, who cannot eat the entire flock at once, circle and stalk their next victim. "
Outstanding
Here's the link where this quote came from. Hundreds more.
http://patriotsquestion911.com/
"Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it?" ... Well yes, Black Swan 9, since after one becomes convinced that there is no reasonable doubt that the events on 9/11/2001 were an inside job, false flag attack, then, that truth is very hard to handle, since it is obvious that America has already gone into a condition of irreconcilably social polarization, and it appears only a question of time until there are events to cause overtly democidal martial law to be imposed in the USA, with consequences beyond comprehension.
By coincidence, I just happened to be watching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ebudnWlh4
"It Can't Happen Here!"That is an hour and a half long discussion of the painfully obvious increasing probability that democidal martial law can happen in North America. There are plenty of preparations for that, in which 9/11 was a major step towards implementing the goal of completing the construction of a fascist police state in the USA, in order to advance the interests of what is already a runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut. After doing everything I could to try to learn more of the truth about what most probably happened on 9/11, I find it very difficult to handle that truth, since it appears practically guaranteed that the government of the USA will impose democidal martial law, which will be resisted, and will spin out of control beyond my ability to imagine what the final outcome may be.
It appears to me that the majority of people who read and comment on Zero Hedge have already become convinced that 9/11 must have been some kind of inside job, false flag attack. (I suspect that some of those who down vote that view are probably paid trolls, who otherwise probably also know that is most probably the truth too.) However, I would also think that everyone who posts comments saying that 9/11 was an inside job likely has their name added to some lists of people to be murdered, when the democidal martial law which is being prepared for actually is imposed, which is what the NSA, and the other kinds of toxic alphabet soup agencies, appear to be actually preparing for. Therefore, FOR SURE, I find it hard to handle more truth. The USA is the world leader in being almost totally controlled by legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, heading towards severe psychotic breakdowns, since the violence that backs up the lies never makes the lies become true, but only makes the civilization crazier and crazier! The American murder system is almost totally based on deceits, and the American monetary system is almost totally based on frauds. Those who have gained so much power and wealth from doing that appear to have every intention to consolidate their position by wiping out any and all opposition.
Therefore, as bad as 9/11 was, we probably have not seen anything yet. Meanwhile, the ability to pump up the social pyramid systems, which depend upon keeping the majority of people ignorant and afraid, is being done with technologies which are trillions of times more powerful and capable than ever before in human history. However, their primary purposes are still to back up lies with violence. The established systems are ALREADY almost totally legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, in which the events on 9/11/2001 are currently the most spectacular and salient symbol of that basic social fact. Those doing that have no intention of ever stopping, but rather plan to continue to push through their agenda as far as they possibly can.
Given that overview, I find it very, very, very hard to handle more truth about 9/11, since it probably means that I will be one of the people murdered, when the democidal martial law gets imposed. Furthermore, the basic insanity and irrationality of the world which has an abundance of weapons of mass destruction means that both wars, as well as violent revolutions, make no rational sense, but rather are practically guaranteed to spin wildly out of control. Decades ago, I started worrying about exponential growth, backed up by weapons of mass destruction. Since then, everything that has happened has revealed the real situation has gotten way worse. There is no sane way that I am aware to prepare for these kinds of insane social storms breaking and blowing through!
After one faces the fact that 9/11 was surely an inside job, false flag attack, and that the people who did that got away with doing it, and became even more wealthy and powerful, and therefore, even more able to dominate the globalized civilization with even bigger deceits, and even more frauds, and start more genocidal wars, and prepare for more democidal martial law, the basic nightmare scenarios caused by the existence of weapons of mass destruction being trillions of times more powerful and capable makes that overall situation trillions of times more difficult to handle! There is no sane way to fight a war with weapons of mass destruction, and there is no sane way to fight a violent revolution in a country which has an abundance of weapons of mass destruction. But nevertheless, we are being pushed and pushed and pushed towards that actually happening!
The NSA has taken the abilities of electronic computers to process trillions of times more information than was ever humanly possible before, and employed that to advance a basically psychotic notion of "national security," in which the greatest threat to "national security" is organizations like the NSA itself. For someone who becomes convinced that 9/11 was an inside job, false flag attack, the way that the NSA uses 9/11 as a talking point to advance its interests is merely more and more of the same old problem with Neolithic Civilization being based on slavery systems. The oldest book on the Art of War starts by saying success in war is based on deceits, and ends by saying that spies are the most important soldiers. Of course, 9/11 fits perfectly well into that historical context. However, what does not fit is how to actually use technologies which are trillions of times more powerful to continue to back up huge lies with lots of violence.
Imposing democidal martial law in the USA, which appears to have been one of of the major goals to prepare for by those who staged 9/11, is being pushed and pushed and pushed towards happening. Meanwhile, the insanity of doing that with the background being weapons that are trillions of times more powerful has not diminished. The NSA symbolizes the psychotic nature of "national security" in a Bizarro Mirror World, where everything is proportionately backwards, since everything is based on Huge Lies, which are diametrically opposite to the more radical truth. Thus, I find it very difficult to handle more truth about 9/11, because it means that the civilization that I am living has clearly become trillions of times more insane than can be comprehended, since it is almost completely controlled by runaway triumphant systems of deceits and frauds, whose longer term consequences are impossible to predict.
The ruling classes did not have to be good at anything but being dishonest, and backing that up with violence. They did not have to be sane in order to become who they are, doing what they do. They merely were selected by historical forces to be the best at being dishonest and violent. However, nothing about their successful social habits regarding continuing to do that actually requires them to sanely comprehend having atomic bombs, and electronic computers, etc., that are trillions of times more powerful and capable than ever before in human history. The NSA may well have awesomely capable computers, but nevertheless, their basic purposes and plans are still profoundly psychotic. I found discovering that to be very difficult to handle!
A tad on the long-winded, but I still gave you a greeny, Radical. You said, "...the people who did that got away with doing it..." I say they haven't gotten away with anything except being prosecuted for their crimes. There is a distinction to be made between the two statements, which I hope the passage of time will make clear.
Truth is why I come to ZH. Well done!
You write very well, RM.. Your thoughts reflect mine as I have extrapolated what 9/11 really means (meant) in the bigger picture in the last several years. Peeling back the so-called onion layers, digging deeper, discovering more, connecting the dots to the banking system, central banks, petrodollar, the Fed, and TPTB above all of those entities (and adding in our controlled media which could be our only hope to inform and expose), changed me from an idealist to where I am now, your place.
I once believed that 9/11 truth could change everything, quickly. Most days I don't hold out much hope anymore.
But maybe Greenwald & Snowden will surprise us..
PS I have been told I have a bullseye on my back (for my involvement in the 9/11 truth movement and independent actions I've been involved in... In 2010, I put together a two-day conference held in Valley Forge, PA called "Treason in America: 9/11, the Wars and Our Broken Constitution". The warning came after the March conference.
Leaders head to PA for Treason in America: 911, Wars & Broken Constitution Conference
http://www.examiner.com/article/leaders-head-to-pa-for-treason-america-9...
ABC's Nightline with anchor Chris Bury attempted the typical hit piece on us:
ABC News Nightline, March 8, 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqQHHYaBsGg
ABC Vs. Loose Change Part I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqnL8Nv8jg
But while ABC was filming, other "citizen journalists" were filming them, including the full Bury interview with me.
Betsy's Uncut ABC Interview, Chris Bury, Correspondent (Recorded by Mark, We Are Change, Boston)
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-03-09/betsys-uncut-abc-interview-chris-b...
RT News was there, and they covered it differently:
RT: 9/11 Truthers Attend Treason in America: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-7GCs-2NUg
RT: ABC Trying to Make 9/11 Truthers Look Bad?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WvnOq8iq-0&feature=player_embedded
From Australia - 9/11 Truth demonized by media and linked to pentagon shooter .m4v: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKFgySVWng
‘Treason in America’ Conference Coverage: “Burying” the Truth: Nightline Reporter Channels Bill O’Reilly and Does a Hatchet Job
By Coleen Rowley, Former FBI Special Agent
http://www.911truth.org/treason-in-america-conference-coverage/
This news last February was chilling:
"9/11 conspiracy theorist [author of The Big Bamboozle], Philip Marshall, kills his 2 children, dog and himself "
http://www.examiner.com/article/9-11-conspiracy-theorist-philip-marshall...
And finally, this film is a wonderful eye-opener to the many people who just can't "go there" yet..
"The New American Century"
By Massimo Mazzucco
(A play on the neocons' Project for a New American Century")
http://vimeo.com/m/6215671
I'm having quieter days now, reflecting upon a lot, and waiting & watching to see what comes next in this surreal tale, final episode (?) of America's 200 year experiment.
* "the USA's" [would be more proper, giving South and Central America some identity :) ]
The cynicism of these people knows no bounds. Of course, it's all part of the PR'ing of everything. We're adopting the corporate lawyer's model of the world, where advocacy is everything and anything you can say is valid as long as it can't be expressly disproven; and when it can be expressly disproven, rely on weasel-words like "may" and "as much as" and so on.
Oh, and 9/11. Or if you're in Boston, the Marathon Bombing. Damn near made the World Series unwatchable.
I knew, I knew it
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Especially if the "crisis" is one you organized planned and carried out hurting your own with your money!
"hurting your own with their money"
Fixed.
They don't hurt their own. Never that. They just hurt us. We're not part of their world. We ain't in the club.
Physically they hurt (killed) nobody! Nobody died in the collapse of the WTC complex, nobody died on the planes (there were none)! It was all CGI, green screen, and media fakery. Most of the guys interviewed in NY in relation to the "event" were payed actors and the ones that weren't were quickly pulled off the air (that happened mostly to local stations that were not clued in). It was all a big movie set with actors and extras followed by 3 demolitions to lend credibility to the event. That was all and we took it line, hook and sinker (some are still under the SPELL of 9/11 - make no mistake, 'twas a spell cast on the population of Earth).
How do we know Michael Krieger isn't CIA and providing this information for some counter intel operation?
Because the document PDF lays it out. Kieger has balls the size of Texas.
DATS 9/11 HOLOCAUST TERRORIST SEXIST RAYCISS
/bestcomment ever.
I am immune. Yeah. What're you going to do?
Big Brother wants to know what you are thinking, you know to better understand you
That is very funny. Yes, that will explain NSA spying on the Vatican and the Pope and on Angela Merkel. Anyone who has examined the official US fairy tale of the 9/11 attacks knows it was an inside job. So this NSA talking point will only work with those who believe the official conspiracy theory that 19 hijackers with box cutters hijacked and flew commercial jets, that they had never been trained on, unerringly to their targets while the entire US Air Force stood down for 1 hour and 20 minutes and steel-framed buildings collapsed at free-fall speed into their footprints into submicron dust which contained thermite. Here is David Ray Griffin on the 9/11 Commission Report:
In discussing my second 9/11 book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, I have often said, only half in jest, that a better title might have been “a 571-page lie.” (Actually, I was saying “a 567-page lie,” because I was forgetting to count the four pages of the Preface.) In making this statement, one of my points has been that the entire Report is constructed in support of one big lie: that the official story about 9/11 is true.
Another point, however, is that in the process of telling this overall lie, The 9/11 Commission Report tells many lies about particular issues. This point is implied by my critique’s subtitle, “Omissions and Distortions.” It might be thought, to be sure, that of the two types of problems signaled by those two terms, only those designated “distortions” can be considered lies.
It is better, however, to understand the two terms as referring to two types of lies: implicit and explicit. We have an explicit lie when the Report claims that the core of each of the Twin Towers consisted of a hollow steel shaft or when it claims that Vice President Cheney did not give the shoot-down order until after 10:10 that morning. But we have an implicit lie when the Commission, in its discussion of the 19 alleged suicide hijackers, omits the fact that at least six of them have credibly been reported to be still alive, or when it fails to mention the fact that Building 7 of the World Trade Center collapsed. Such omissions are implicit lies partly because they show that the Commission did not honor its stated intention “to provide the fullest possible account of the events surrounding 9/11.” They are also lies insofar as the Commission could avoid telling an explicit lie about the issue in question only by not mentioning it, which, I believe, was the case in at least most instances.
Given these two types of lies, it might be wondered how many lies are contained in The 9/11 Commission Report. I do not know. But, deciding to see how many lies I had discussed in my book, I found that I had identified over 100 of them
http://www.911truth.org/the-911-commission-report-a-571-page-lie/
I know several Son's-of-Bitches who'll be rotting in Hell when they have reached their own demise... 'Cause nobody gets past the Reaper.
Seasons don't fear the reaper
Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain
Nor, they might have added, do the spawn of devils.
They can be like they are, come on, baby.
Part II of II is just getting underway and this article states some facts that everyone in this Country keeps missing.
Next 9/11 type event may go off in Tel Aviv or Haifa and it will be used as a pretext just like our's was 12 years ago by the "three amigos" to bolster support for starting the next major World War. If nobody has read "Which Path to Persia", it's the playbook that hasn't gotten it wrong yet.
What should be troubling everyone right now after reading this is that we are not hearing anything in the way of a show of outrage about yesterday's Israeli airstrikes in Syria by members of the UN, even though they appear to be rather pissed off at the moment with the Uncle Sam's eavesdropping scandals and the botched chemical weapons pretext we tried to use as a means for invading Syria. You would think this would be the third strike for the U.S., Israel and Saudi Arabia -but where is the outrage?
To any of you in uniform that reads ZH. Take your helmets off and start massaging your brain instead of your dicks, because whether it's Israel that starts it for you, you were always the one that would be designated for "finishing it". I dare say it's crossed your mind already that this one isn't going to be anything like what we've experienced in the last 40 years.
Good time to pack quietly and move to the Southern Hemisphere before those next set of orders to the Med come in.
Since the FISA courts work in complete secrecy, outside the framework of the constitution they can hardly be considered to be part of the Three Branches of Government, specifically the Judicial. Justice requires one to be able to face their accusers, spooks are exempt from testimony and one would of course require representation, you get none in a FISA padded cell. Stasi style secret courts, detention and kangaroo court. The entire congress, judicial and Executive have conspired against the people and require complete and total removal.
“If tyranny and oppression come to this land it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
James Madison
When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty.”
Thomas Jefferson
“The wisest thing in the world is to cry out before you are hurt. It is no good to cry out after you are hurt; especially after you are mortally hurt. People talk about the impatience of the populace; but sound historians know that most tyrannies have been possible because men moved too late. it is often essential to resist a tyranny before it exists.”
G.K. Chesterton
GWB used "Terror" all the time. I liked it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B185_JP5lq8
...wake up fuckers!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9g7f24f1io
Could you keep it down. I am intently focused on my bread and circuses
K, Armageddon - Silver Tightrope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPxmS3HuEms
So much doom and gloom. Lighten up, y'all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTDwIN9oLvY
Muse - Uprising
Not only did NSA not stop the Boston attacks they were also unable to stop the London atacks and the Spanish attacks o rthe Manilla attacks or the Nairobi shopping mall attacks. And probably others.
If this is the case why is so much being spent on NSA activities? I suspect the answer lies in economic espionage, the abilty to obtain technology and knolwedge to undercut other states abilty to compete. This delivers a measurable return on investment. THe nonsense about "terrorism" is just a cover story.
Yup... the FBI didn’t stop the Boston boys even if they had meetings with them and were in the process of spying on them or grooming them for Chechnya. And they didn’t stop Osama even when the CIA/CNN found him in a cave for an interview and they were already spying on him after Operation Cyclone.
So it doesn’t matter if you try to give up all your civil liberties and privacy, that won’t stop the type of terrism being created by the intelligence services that serve our oligarchs. They don’t serve us or any of the other pawns on The Grand Chessboard.
“You’re either with us, or you’re with the terrists.” –W.
BINGO!
The whole point of the CIA is to allow the banking families to have cover while they engage in dirty tricks.
By making all actions of the agency classified and compartmentalizing who knows what,,they have managed to make great fortunes, destroy enemies and avoid legal prosecution.
See the Bush family for a shining example of what CIA connections can do for your career and finance.
Yale, Skull and Bones, CIA all have the same roots and the same reasons for being. Hell the CIA has a copy of the Yale statue on their campus.
Yeah industrial and banking espionage is what the CIA is really all about. Truman was a dick and fucked us all.
it's not states that are competing, i keep repeating over and over. nsa is not working for the usa, it has no loyalties even to government, let alone to citizens or constitution, as we have seen. countries are just the fronts who's taxpayers just pay the bill for the spying. corporations or whoever actually profit from it, might only reside in usa but don't even do as much as to pay taxes on the profits they reap on us economy through unfair competition.
if there really is a conspiracy of some entities controlling the world affairs instead of universal runaway greed as human nature causing the prevailing corruption, they would have to have a global intelligence network to keep that power intact as they would be more powerful than nation states. what could be more sinister than to use the richest country to run and pay for it? and it's not only nsa, it's the army(bigger than rest of the world), money(world reserve currency), finances (biggest banks), political power etc. i'm preaching to the choir again.
edit: to TheMerryPrankster
you got to it first. i pretty much agree, though i'm not sure about bushes in the hierarchy, as they are the ones operating in the spotlight, which means they are not at the top of the food chain.
aren't those reasons that justify the calls for unfettered mass surveillance, better analytics, and more efficient/effective super-computing and storage capabilities = even bigger budgets?
Obama promised more transparency from the government...and they are transparent in every email and phone call you send or receive...we didn't even see them....
Was that the purpose of letting Mossad agents go and running simulations of investigations into WTC 7 after the 911 attacks... maintaining a talking point for the MIC and the intelligence agencies that serve our oligarchs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rzlb4Zwl74&feature=player_embedded
http://www.ae911truth.org/
That's still the kosher version. Explosive evidence was already found in the vans of Israelis arrested on the day by the NYPD, just look it up. They had maps of the WTC complex, passports and plans to leave the country within the month too. Not to metion thousands of dollars rolled up in a "sock like object."
It's public knowledge due to FOIA requests. But it's not reported on in the coporate media and is only barely on Youtube (Ry Dawson), so it doesn't exist for the average sheeple/goyim. Anyway, you don't really have to sift through the dust or debate the properties of magical columns, pancake theories or the incendiary properties hidden in donuts and office supplies. The evidence is there, it's only the media that isn't. The agents were even prepared, "We're not your problem, the Palestians are your problem." And they were dressed like Arabs, or what they thought that Arabs would dress like. It was pretty incompetent in some respects, all the way around. But you don't have to be competent or nefarious masterminds if the target nation can be looked on as an asset. You could be arrested with WMDs in your underpants there and then. Wouldn't matter. Instead another dual citizen like Chertoff (Mr. Homeland Security himself) and Rapiscan Inc. will have an opportunity for more profits looking in everyone else's underpants for WMDs. People need to have special relationship for that, it would seem.
"Give us twenty years and we'll take over your media and destroy your country." FBI Documents on Urban Moving Systems
911Truth: "We can't deal with that aspect of the truth, it will hurt our brand."
Seriously, that's what Gage has said. I guess he's right, actually. And he's a good guy putting his career at risk and so forth.
9/11 brought in exceptional powers to the President and his Executive. There are two other branches to U.S. government, and they have meekly obeyed, contrary to all evidence that shows the powers grabbed by the Executive far exceed the threat posed to the U.S.
Which begs the question: who owns the Judiciary, and Congress?
Nobel Prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz said Wall St. owns Washington. And who owns Wall St? International financiers who bear no allegiance to any land or people.
We've been had, bamboozled, cheated, exploited...all for the power and profit of international financiers and their central banks, as per the un--Federal no-Reserve Board owned by secret shareholders.
John Kennedy warned about 'secret societies', and he defended the free press. We know what happened to him.
Nobel Prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz said Wall St. owns Washington. And who owns Wall St? International financiers who bear no allegiance to any land or people.
From Rothschild Zionism on, many have been nationalists and do seem to bear allegiance to those that they perceive as being of their superior race and tribe. Their's is the only form of racial supremacy allowed these days. And there is no separation of religion and state, nor race and religion among them. Whether secular or religious, a Talmudic mentality of supremacy seems to linger. Thus many would have you believe that they're magical fairies of peace farting out gardens in the MidEast and that their land isn't turning green due to the water that they just took by force of arms from its indigenous inhabitants.
Anyway, you may be correct in a few cases but not in others. The fact that international financiers do bear allegiance to a land and a people is why Rothschile Zionism began after the cabala's sacred six million died in a holocaust/sacrifice made by fire in the first place. (If you're into believing in human sacrifice or framing the tragedy and insanity created by those that finance war in terms of a "sacrifice" that creates a sacred right of return somewhere else to abuse or kill some other people that had nothing to do with your "sacrifice.")
I'm 'into' defending the Constitution and Bill of Rights which has given more liberty and refuge to people from every land than any other belief system.
Do as you please, preferably in your own land. Thank you.
6 people nationwide enrolled in Obamacare on Day 1
By the end of Day 2: 248
FORWARD!
Fact reveals more than fantasy, and that is feared most by the liars.
Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) :
“September 11, 2001 seems destined to be the watershed event of our lives and the greatest test for our democracy in our lifetimes. The evidence of government complicity in the lead-up to the events, the failure to respond during the event, and the astounding lack of any meaningful investigation afterwards, as well as the ignoring of evidence turned up by others that renders the official explanation impossible, may signal the end of the American experiment. It has been used to justify all manners of measures to legalize repression at home and as a pretext for behaving as an aggressive empire abroad. Until we demand an independent, honest, and thorough investigation and accountability for those whose action and inaction led to those events and the cover-up, our republic and our Constitution remain in the gravest danger.”
There is a man true to his oath to defend us against all enemies at home and abroad.
We have a problem with a certain enemy within that has infiltrated the U.S. and aims to destroy it from within. If honest law was applied equally without fear or favor, then we would expose the liars quickly.
9/11 may have been a False-False Flag: when the bad guys make you think it was a false flag.
Keep going. Kind of ironic that they didn't even have to use their pet (scape) goat, huh?
Worth mentioning, from their perspective they weren't the "bad guys."
Reply to Caviat Emptor.
Mossad.
Motto: By deception, make war.
I feel sick reading this document.
this should amplify the Nausea:
(Reuters) - President Barack Obama has ordered the National Security Agency to stop eavesdropping on the headquarters of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank as part of a review of intelligence gathering activities, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.
The order is the latest move by the White House to demonstrate that it is willing to curb at least some surveillance in the wake of leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden of programs that collect huge quantities of data on U.S. allies and adversaries, and American citizens.
The NSA's surveillance of the Washington-based IMF and World Bank has not previously been disclosed. Details of such spy programs are usually highly classified.
In response to Reuters inquiries, a senior Obama administration official said, "The United States is not conducting electronic surveillance targeting the headquarters of the World Bank or IMF in Washington."
The Obama administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, did not address whether the NSA had eavesdropped on the two entities in the past.
The first official said Obama had ordered a halt to such practices within the last few weeks, about the same time he instructed the NSA to curtail eavesdropping on the United Nations headquarters in New York.
The IMF and the World Bank both declined to comment.
Representatives of the NSA and the Office of Director of National Intelligence had no immediate comment.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/31/us-usa-security-imf-idUSBRE99U...
apparently they rank higher than the average US ciitizen in the expectation of privacy
And the NSA sends all intel unfiltered directly to Israel, a foreign country. And Britain's GCHQ does the same.
Isn't it interesting that while the world is at endless war, and nation fights nation over the eavesdropping revelations of Snowden, Israel remains silent, although it receives all the eavesdropping against all nations, unfiltered.
BTW, Greenwald is not a hero journalist. He's an asset who got hold of Snowden's information, and cleansed it for public release that would damage the USA, and leave Israel out of the picture.
Actually it was Greewald who reported that Israel was receiving raw data so I don't think he's trying to leave them out of the picture. The Zionist controlled MSM in the U.S. has been doing it best to leave the Israelis out of the picture. Can't see him as a government "asset".
Their asses are in so much trouble at this point they would do better to release what they have on Rumsfeld and Cheney.
As a related aside, here's a comment that I left on the PBS Newshour transcript of tonight's show:
Here we have another perfect, and deeply troubling microcosm of just how far the Newshour has fallen.
Judy "The Journalist" Woodruff questions Collins on the most recent NSA revelations, and receives the following response:
"...as you know, General Alexander, the head of the National Security Agency, has said that the reports about the NSA tapping into Google servers is not an accurate report."
Now, had Woodruff bothered to do the slightest bit of research into the issue, she would have known that Alexander was being intentionally deceptive by using that carefully parsed excuse. In fact, the documents reveal that the NSA was tapping into the SSL between servers, not directly into the servers.
What compounds the issue and makes Woodruff's performance so disgraceful is that the very guest on an earlier segment of the same show, Washington Post reporter Barton Gellman, made this perfectly clear. In fact, here is the very first sentence from his article in today's Post:
"The National Security Agency has secretly broken into the main communications links that connect Yahoo and Google data centers around the world."
Got that? "links that connect", not "servers". Yet Woodruff blithely accepts Collins' transparent and clearly dishonest propaganda, and immediately moves on to the next topic.
This is not only far removed from serious journalism, but, much worse, it is truly an act of complicity in the spreading of insidious pro-Government propaganda.
That Woodruff behaves in such a manner reveals much, and none of it flattering. That the Newshour allows such disgraceful behavior tells one all that one needs to know about whose interests are paramount to the program.
As a final, almost surreal footnote, there was a related, scheduled interview on tonight's program that was cancelled. The guest? James Clapper, the very same NSA mouthpiece who has lied to Congress. The fact that the Newshour would choose Clapper to comment on NSA revelations is surely the icing on the rancid cake
NPR/PBS is government propaganda. They rarely report anything of worth and when they do it is done so shallowly and of such short duration that if you blink you will miss it.
At first I thought they were just bad journalists/amateurs, but I've come to the conclusion it is deliberate. Listen to Kye Risdell deliver Marketwatch on NPR sometime.
A better waste of time would be hard to find. A narcissist radio host gazes at his own navel and mutters about it for what seems like weeks, short meaningless stories interupted by short musical clips and a series of datapoints without context. now here's the numbers Dow JoneS industrial up 1%, unless it went Down, then he'll just report the current index average, not how much it fell, ie dow jones dropped today to 14977.
Never a clue in the whole hour about anything. Its a taste of the oblivousness of the entire broadcasting industry, deliberate oblivousness. I wondered what the fuck was goin on the first time I heard them reporting on TV shows on the radio, then I realized that is how inane they have gotten.
They are so bereft of curiousity, they discuss what they watched on tv last night as a topic on their show.
Propaganda and stupidity a lethal combination but when you have a captive audience of people watching the tv and thinking it is reality, it really becomes childs play to lead them wherever you please. Yew eSS AAY, yew ESS AAAY
I agree, though I can't help wistfully recalling Robert MacNeil, who co-founded the Newshour, and was a serious journalist.
Bet he can't bear to watch these days.
The disgusting aspect of NPR(Lizard radio) is that the government partially funds it, my fucking tax dollars, then all of the donations from Big Lizards, then their fund raising(begging).
And their wonderful lizard agenda is all they report about, israeli this and israel that and israel and israel.......
Fuck Me!
Over.
my favorite game is to count how many seconds into a topic before the question inevitably arises "How does this affect Israel?"
It's amazing how many times they ask that question, as if that is always germane to every topic. I guess if you are really an Israeli broadcasting outlet it is of prime importance, but for the U.S where Israeal is just another tit sucking off the government welfare and tax payer dollars, its not part of the dialogue.
By inference it shows where npr/pbs loyalties lie, doesn't it?
The Tribe steals your money while they spy on you !!
the boston marathon bombing was another cia - bush crime syndicate operation....just as 9/11 was....the point is to use "shock and awe" to coerce americans into nazism and of course most of them accept it.....americans are natural born nazis.
NOT 'natural born nazis'. A relatively new country deceived in the same way as the old countries, but hated most by the old monarchists/tyrants/international financiers because of its Constitution and Bill of Rights. Operation Paperclip brought those Nazis of the old money into the USA, unbeknown to trusting Americans who were the only troops to refuse to hand over their jewish comrades to the Nazis.
The USA is hated and loved in equal measure by most of the world as it is one country that dared to try and stand up to the international financier thugs. Lost that battle with the founding of the un-Federal no-Reserve Board in 1913 - a private corporation owned by anonymous shareholders.
Nasser of Egypt and the independent India also tried to defy the British Crown, the international financiers.
I'll let the NSA credit the failed people & things how understand Character assassination isn't funny. Call Edna a toxic bitch begining for more time, & find yourself a new empty bridge game.
Covert Video
My money is on the Taliban. They have fought TWO world superpowers!
I find it worth noting who the NSA is not spying on--the banks, of course. I'm just throwing this thought out there: the NSA could be spying for economic opportunities on behalf of guess who, international financiers and the banks.
Kerrching. Sort of. It's a financial war, and the filthy money grubbers spy on each other more than anyone else. See Germany vs USA as the latest example. Wall St owns Washington, said Nobel winning economist Jospeh Stiglitz.
They are only angry when they discover that their lies are known by their rivals, and Israel gets all intel unfiltered.
Well, they do spy on their underlings, but only to keep them in line. Got to root out those evil whistleblowers.
They claim they get soooo much pussy, guys who get pussy never dream this shit up. They should stick to simple harmless pursuits like building bird feeders, makin embroidered pillows, maybe some good homemade chili wouldn't hurt. Cmon guys 95 percent of the ones you hunt, weren't youre enemies they never were.
I had thief jobs probably more than both hands, then it's just not for you.
So extrapolate it a bit. The same folks that had the cohenies to pull this off are now buying millions if not billions of rounds of hollow point ammunition (for targe practice - guess who will be the targets?)
They are ramping their right to trample your righs by feeling you up before you fly, and now trying to setup before football games, on trains, on highways etc.
They are the Gestapo in gestation.
Its pretty clear to see where they are taking us, does anyone else want to climb out of the sack before they drop us in the lake?
A problem for them, not me and mine :-)
Patriots should notice the skinny or fat pig pasty faced enemy, and realise they are paper tigers, cowards who would betray their own before defending anything.
Tripod, Pier 92
Marvin Bush
Vigilant Guardian
WTC 7
Sonnenfeld
Office of Naval Intelligence
Thermite
WTC4 Nova Scotia PMs ..eh
Giuliani
Pull it
Cheney
Ahhh, early morning poetry to go with the coffee.
At least we have clarification on who Obama works for:
President Barack Obama has ordered the National Security Agency to stop eavesdropping on the headquarters of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank as part of a review of intelligence gathering activities, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.
The silly drama queen would betray anyone to the international financiers, just to believe his slut Mommy Dearest right, and serve his CIA upbringing. The CIA being infiltrated by the Nazis under Operation Paperclip.
What a fool, a dangerous useful idiot, and educated fool.
Direct link to the article on that page you hyperlinked to.
Obama halted NSA spying on IMF and World Bank headquarters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/31/us-usa-security-imf-idUSBRE99U1EQ20131031
Whom do "They" work for? Whom do they protect?
For 'merryprankster' and 'layman',
Computer won't allow up vote on your comments. Strange how a flow of comments that identify the financial fraudsters is usually interrupted by a 'glitch'.
All roads lead to the new Rome, Tel Aviv and its clever little computer 'glitches'.
Greenwald sold to the highest bidder won't encounter such difficulties. Snowden will.
Let's just cut to the chase: 911 was an inside job.
If you have the guts to vote this down, then identify yourself with an explanation as to why I am wrong.
Mossad.
Down. Inside job implies that it was perpetrated by real Americans when in fact it was not. It was an outside job, just not the ones who were fingered by the American zionist media.
Over.
Come on then NSA. Come and take. What are you NSA fucks going to do and why are you waiting? You will do jack shit is what you will do. So come on and kick my door in and see what happens.
Those donuts taste good don't they?
The NSA and Britain's GCHQ sends intel directly unfiltered to Israel. They won't kick down your door. They'll bankrupt you, given the chance. Don't give them the chance. Get ready, get prepared.
Israel is the worst 'friend' the USA ever had, as .gov documents know.
An organization called Jews for Peace know this. They plastered signs all over DC, declaring AIPAC doesn't represent me. I bet you didn't see that on main scream news, owned by the rabid zionists.
I am aware of this.
Feudalism:
The following quotations are the basic core elements of the evolution and organization of Society vs State (Indivividual vs. Collective aka gang, mafia, mob, etc.), which precisely coincide with that which is being highlighted today. Only the individual can see that the West is done and that in itself is intensifying. If Fukishima doesn't destroy the USA, Congress, the WH, or the FedRes will and are ensuring this destruction and now there is no way out.
Those of the "collective" will never be able to see this.
"The case for a free society rests on individualism. ... Every form of totalitarianism has sought control over the minds of individuals, and has understood that it must first undermine the individual’s confidence in the validity of his own faculties. Remember O’Brien’s speech to Winston Smith in Orwell’s '1984' "-- David Kelley
Executive Director Institute for Objectivist Studies, Ph.D.
Source: Can Reporters Handle the Truth? by David Kelley, The New Individualist, Volume 10: No. 4, April 2007,
http://web.archive.org/web/20080501115015/http://www.objectivistcenter.org/ct-1897-Media_obj.aspx
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/David.Kelley.Quote.C3CF
"The antipode of individualism is collectivism, which subordinates the individual to the group -- be it the 'community,' the tribe, the race, the proletariat, etc. A person's moral worth is judged by how much he sacrifices himself to the group. [Under collectivism] the more emergencies (and victims) the better, because they provide more opportunity for 'virtue'."
-- Glenn Woiceshyn
Canadian writer
Source: Lessons from the Great Ice Storm: Individualism vs Collectivism, (1998.03.07)
http://capitalismmagazine.com/1998/03/lessons-from-the-great-ice-storm-individualism-vs-collectivism/
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Glenn.Woiceshyn.Quote.5071
"Collectivist ethical principle: man is not an end to himself, but is only a tool to serve the ends of others. Whether those 'others' are a dictator's gang, the nation, society, the race, (the) god(s), the majority, the community, the tribe, etc., is irrelevant -- the point is that man in principle must be sacrificed to others."
-- Mark Da Cunha
Publisher of Capitalism magazine Ho hum
"We have always been at war with Eurasia."
Some of these people have good intentions; but good intentions are often the reason for fucking your friend's partner.
You have to stop and think "What is my main goal?"
If your main goal is to defend the nation than don't fuck with the Constitution.
Otherwise, you're going to be doing the wrong thing and end up with your friend's shotgun pointed at your genitals.
And if you fucked with your best friend's junk you probably deserve it.
Hello? NSA? Are you listening?
We manage to live with the certain knowledge that thousands of people each year will die in auto accidents, fires, of cancer and common murder, etc. Why not be philosophical and accept that people will die by terrorism? I don't mean not try and stop it, investigate it, etc. But it seems excessive to spend such vast resources and destroy so much freedom in the West in order to prevent what would be trivial numbers of death by terrorism.
Reason being is that the media and our society would instantly crucify those that could have helped prevent an attack but didnt. This goes to the Washington DC and American tendency to point fingers, even if it means oppressive countermeasures. If there was an attack, Americans like to seek out a scapegoat as always. This is part of our sick society that this is always the first knee jerk reaction to bad news. Much like the constant tendency to chalk up wins or losses in something like the government shutdown. Americans as a group can not handle complexity, it is all about winning and losing or finding fault or responsibility on a black and white basis. These public tendencies are well known and can predicted before anything even happens. It is sick and it is crippling, and helps explain much of the behavior we are seeing today with the NSA Sure, it is paranoid, but it is the American public making them feel that way with the tendency to try to embarrass people.
Unless the pols were absolved of responsibility in event of another attack, this surveillance will continue.
I have always thought that a major reason why governments attach far more importance to acts of terrorism is simply because "they" might be the target and no expense of taxpayers' money should be spared to prevent it.
Other deaths like those you list only happen to ordinary citizens and don't affect government or The State.
Much more political attention was given to the NSA spying fiasco in Germany when Merkel was told that "her" cellphone was spied on. Before that it was just ordinary Germans and she hardly made any noise about it.
It all stems from a deep belief by politicians and those in government that "they" are far more important to society than ordinary citizens and must be protected at any cost.
Maybe it's just me....
but I fail to see how a bunch of NSA pervert-creeps salivating & slobbering over my private-texting dalliances on CougarLife.com is going to stop the next tuRRRRRrrrrRRRrrrrrr'IST attack...
Hey, Alexander - yeah, you General - go sign up yourself and stop pimpin' off my dime - ya cheapskate bum! And Yes!, the first month is free!!! (max 5 'dates')
(Pssst.. don't forget to wear that stamp-collection of yours beside your left lapel - I've heard some of them go for that geeky "Eagle-Scout With A Hobby" look)
I wonder if this works with 5 year olds
"Daddy, why do I have to go to school?"
"Because, 9/11"
Staged terror attacks become talking points?
If you watched the World Series, you'd know they just would not shut the fuck up about the oh-so staged Boston Marathon firecracker attack.
The whole 9/11 event was an carefully planned false flag in my opinion, to many things just don't add up.
And of coarse the government used the 'fear' factor to maximum effect in the aftermath.
Those who would give up essential freedom for security deserve neither, and will probably lose BOTH. B. Franklin
Foxenburg: "We manage to live with the certain knowledge that thousands of people each year will die in auto accidents, fires, of cancer and common murder, etc. Why not be philosophical and accept that people will die by terrorism? I don't mean not try and stop it, investigate it, etc. But it seems excessive to spend such vast resources and destroy so much freedom in the West in order to prevent what would be trivial numbers of death by terrorism. "
That's simple, because it's not about terrorism. It's about insider boardroom spying, power, money and control. It's corporate spying and spying on everyone to get shit / dirt on everyone. Watch every single youtube video about Russel Tice, a previous NSA whistleblower. They had the dirt on Obama when he was running for Senator. All the Congresspersons are spyed on, all their staff and interns.......
See the picture?
Duc888. Well, of course you are right.
This should help Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Verizon and AT&T a subsidiary of "NSA LLC" climb out of their self-imposed shit hole.
LoL
http://www.hangthebankers.com/obama-stops-nsa-spying-on-imf-and-world-bank/
This is just getting silly now. Where is a Lee Harvey Oswald when you need them? And yes I am suggesting that and if the NSA is listening, well that is the problem isn't it.
Rudy Giuliani got this memo