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China Slams "Peeping Tom" America: "The Trust Fiasco Of America The Eavesdropper"

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Three weeks ago, during the US government shutdown fiasco, and when there was legitimate concern if the US would begin prioritizing debt payments upon running out of cash, China's official and most widely read press agency, Xinhua, slammed the US in "U.S. fiscal failure warrants a de-Americanized world" in which it called for a new world order, and an end to the reserve currency. Now, it is time for the follow up, with China kicking "America the eavesdropper" precisely when it is down.

From Xinhua:

The trust fiasco of America the Eavesdropper

The latest outburst of outcries and outrage across the world has laid bare that almighty America has at least one other anomalous addiction besides borrowing --  bugging.

The U.S. debt drama features a polarized and paralyzed Washington at the helm of the world's largest economy. As nerve-racking as it is, such irresponsible behavior is a recurrent headache economic policymakers worldwide can bear with.

Yet the sole superpower's spying saga is spicy on a heart-attack scale. It is particularly hurtful to those supposed to trust America the most -- its allies.

The recent cascade of eye-popping disclosures depicts a hyperactive Uncle Sam prying into others' secrets and even eavesdropping on dozens of heads of state.

It has been revealed that the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) monitored the phone conservations of at least 35 world leaders in 2006. And that is just a tip of the iceberg of the spook organization's sprawling spying scheme.

Leaked documents show that the NSA has not only gained front-door access to countless Google and Yahoo user accounts through a court-approved process, but secretly broken into the main communications links connecting the two Internet giants' respective data centers around the world to siphon information at will.

What is counterintuitive in the NSA forage is its nonsensical approach: relentless and indiscriminate like a vacuum cleaner. It just bugs everybody, even its closest allies in Europe.

In the most shocking revelation so far, Uncle Sam turned Madame Europa, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, into, as Deutsche Presse-Agentur puts it, "a dupe whose mobile phone conversations were for more than a decade a source of information for U.S. authorities."

Merkel and her peers in the U.S. alliance have every reason to feel insulted and betrayed. At the very least, they deserve the kind of respect and trust that underpins the practice that air travelers do not have to fly naked.

The motivation behind America's extensive eavesdropping is unclear. The explanations the White House has been forced to offer are far from explanatory, and the diorthosis President Barack Obama has promised seems all but skin-deep.

The half-heartedness stands in stark contrast with the pushfulness with which America accuses China of cyber-espionage, and the evasiveness marks a stunning retreat from the straightforwardness with which Washington reproves Beijing for alleged monetary manipulation.

The apparent application of a double standard only reinforces the image of a Janus-faced America. In the sunlight, it preaches; in the dark, it pries. On the offensive, it orates; on the defensive, it equivocates.

The wayward practice has now backfired, and the damage is increasing. Just as the borrowing addiction is shedding America's economic credibility, the bugging obsession is draining its political and security trustworthiness -- only with potentially more destructive consequences.

Trust is the first and foremost casualty. Common sense dictates that trust is a two-way street: One has to trust in order to be trusted. It is particularly true in friendships and alliances. America obviously failed to follow the simple rule.

If Washington did not knit the worldwide wiretapping web just because it could, then its pillage for information unveils an Uncle Sam too deeply entrenched in suspicion and isolation to treat anyone as a real friend.

Ironically enough, the bugging undermines the very thing it is supposed to protect -- national security. As America pins its security on alliances, the tapping tale would sour its relationship with allies -- and thus erode its security bedrock -- more than any terrorist would be capable of.

The harm could go far beyond. For example, mutual trust is vital to China and America's endeavor to build a new type of major-country relations. Washington's lack of trust and hemorrhage of trustworthiness would only make the effort more difficult.

Needless to say, trust entails trade-offs, and the quid pro quos are not riskless. But the United States should be wise enough to know that to trust nobody is no less dangerous than to trust anybody.

As indicated in the still simmering spying scandal, the potential cost of excessive bugging could be way higher. Uncle Sam needs to remember what happened to the tailor in the Lady Godiva story -- Peeping Tom was struck blind.


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Fri, 11/01/2013 - 08:53 | 4111351 max2205
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Hows this any different than putting a camera in the girls locker room?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 08:56 | 4111359 GetZeeGold
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Do that in a middle school and you're looking at hard time.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:04 | 4111385 El Oregonian
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Now, that's funny right there.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:43 | 4111511 Ying-Yang
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The spying blowback over time will be larger than most can imagine.

History will show that Snowden's intel releases altered global power structures.

When public and private trust is lost on a global scale how do you recover?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:36 | 4111705 mick_richfield
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Look at the relationship between this and the recent use of SWIFT as a weapon.

That event destroyed trust in the US as a fair steward of the global financial system.

Put these two things together, and you have destroyed all forms of trust in the US for anything, anywhere, ever.

I thought that the death of the Empire would require the destruction of a battle group!  Turns out you can do it with just the right amount of greed, stupidity, and transparent evil.


Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:52 | 4111967 King_of_simpletons
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America's philosophy has always been to preemptively villify other countries of a nasty deed and make sure it is heard everywhere so that no one will suspect us of the same. We then do the same nasty deed bigger, better and exceptionally and on our own citizens.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:52 | 4111968 malikai
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It should come as no surprise. We saw the same underlying causes in the soviet collapse. Over time, all power structures become weak when their principles give way to corruption.

Everyone falls. Each one falls in their own way, but all for the same reasons.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:52 | 4112199 AvoidingTaxation
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Don't forget the use of GPS tracking systems as a weapon. When the USA gets to war, the cibled country doesn't has GPS anymore.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:03 | 4111386 smlbizman
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usa usa usa the  drunk boss at the christmas will take alot of asshole behavior before somebody jeopordizes their job and says something....they are now saying something,... if u were wondering where on the map we are at.....

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:09 | 4111401 RafterManFMJ
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The Chinese are just jealous.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:24 | 4111438 jbvtme
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we drone innocents indescriminately, we assassinate world leaders and overthrow legitimate rulers, we pollute the planet with gmo seeds and pesticides, we suppress technology which would allow free energy and a cleaner environment, we addict millions with street and prescription drugs, we defile all of divine nature with our greed and avarice...and the world merely condemns us for covertly listening to them?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:13 | 4111642 SimMaker
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Thats becasue we all know that the world just has to sit back and let America destroy itself.....why would Americas enemies want to get invovled, America is shooting itself in the head.......China is playing chess, America is playing Russian Roulette with 6 chambers loaded.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 07:04 | 4114864 Oracle 911
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China is playing chess, America is playing Russian Roulette with 6 chambers loaded.


Almost nailed it. China is playing Go, America is playing Russian Roulette with 6 chambers loaded.-fixed for ya.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 07:45 | 4114894 Urban Redneck
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Exactly what technology that would allow free energy and a cleaner environment is being suppressed?

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 04:54 | 4116890 Urban Redneck
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I see more of an argument that the US government will pursue its own ends at its citizens expense, than energy sources are the specifically being "targeted". I also see an unhealthy dose of ideological bias amongst their "pioneers". National Security Letters are used today for ANY technology that might apply to the "war on terror", and some of the technologies cited on that very page are obviously not subject to a NSL or they wouldn't appear on the page.

Intellectual property is a mine field, especially when pursued for profit. And the US has only gotten worse, since the friends of big business aka Demoncrats pushed through the AIA and "First to File."

One of the companies that I distribute for has specifically avoided filing patents for certain industrial chemicals in the US, while simultaneously having to fight off Chinese industrial espionage. If one is specifically trying to avoid the NSL trap, they can always file for IP protection in a jurisdiction outside the US before they file at the US Patent Office.

If some of the "ideas" cited were actually ready for prime time (as opposed to ideas seeking financing for further research) they would have no trouble finding funding- remember that for every provider trying to protect his slice of the oligarchy, there is an oligarch consumer who as an equally strong interest in breaking that oligarchy (and they're both members of the same clubs that the sheeple aren't invited to), some situations are even more complex with single players juggling both the producer and consumer roles-- like KSA, where a huge percentage of their potential "profit" is not realized because such a large share of production is used to meet internal demand.

In short- if you are an inventor pushing energy access don't get into bed with the US or Russians, chose the EU or China. If you're trying to make a quick buck doing it pass on the Chinese. Regardless, get professional help, and not some ambulance-chaser-cum-patent-troll shyster, someone who plays this game at the international level-- after all Oak Ridge is more than happy to turn over everything they have on Thorium (you might have actually go there and request it in person - gasp) because the Chinese and French pried that door open, and are now running with the data.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:11 | 4111408 Terminus C
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This is rich from the Chinese... this article belies their jealousy, as they would implement this program in a second... if they could.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:20 | 4111437 falak pema
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you have to contextualise that remark. China is a one party system run by the likes of Mao. Not so the USA.

So if China is jealous its only normal as they emerge from a very long dark age, whereas the West...its losing its marbles.

China is a ragged poor country so its only richness today, if you be a commoner, is to see the rich man lose his clothes n more! 

Solace is what solace begets.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:31 | 4111473 suteibu
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Unlike Americans who barely know what is happening in their own country, the average Chinese are aware that as they emerge from the dark ages of Mao, and recognize that they are not currently "free," they also understand that as they do gain more and more freedom, Americans are losing theirs.  The irony of the trend is not lost on them.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:23 | 4111445 BobPaulson
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Perhaps you are missing the point of the point of the article. Your rebuttal supports the objective of the article which is to compare China and the US as being the same.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:03 | 4111611 Running On Bing...
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Which is completely false. China is blossoming, and the US is withering, sick from 100 years of occupation by a tribe called Lizard.

Many will just take your word for it, how do they know different. The Ministry of Propaganda wins. Congratulations.


Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:07 | 4111785 AbbeBrel
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This whole thing reminds me of the old joke - what do you get if there is an explosion in a floor covering factory?



wait for it



wait for it



"Linoleum Blown-apart"


(for readers born before 1855:   "Linoleum" is a floor covering invented in the UK by an English Dude.)

And basically the US has blown-apart the compelling marketing message of "one cloud fits all" and with it the savings of "one data center" (with replication) fits all.

Now there will be a B-B-B-Balkanized set of cloud-lets each with stormfronts among them and firewalls and regulations and shit like that to make google and other dudes and dudettes completely crazy.

The NSA spooks completely screwed the pooch on this one.

Long regulatory lawyers who speak 20 languages

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:25 | 4111868 Road Hazard
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The amount ghost cities being created in China is blossoming. The number of Chinese coal plants coming on line, creating poisonous air and water is blossoming. Or are you referring to something else?


Fri, 11/01/2013 - 13:35 | 4112409 Cast Iron Skillet
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One difference is that the U.S. supposedly has a constitution that guarantees the right to privacy and freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:21 | 4111425 Bastiat
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Turns out a major investor was at that Christmas party and didn't like having his ass grabbed publicly.  

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:41 | 4112151 One World Mafia
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Unless you're the school administrators and you turn on student computer cameras remotely when they're at home.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 08:59 | 4111373 azzhatter
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I'm sure our first Kenyan president will fix all these dastardly things that evil Bush did. Kumbaya

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:24 | 4111451 Incubus
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WHat are you from the 1950s?


Oh big deal, naked girls.  I bet you have a porno mag stash?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:31 | 4111477 doctor10
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So where's the "apology " to us? and the rail cars full of dynamite for Ft Meade and the Utah Data center?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 08:54 | 4111354 falak pema
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hahaha, the country of Mao now teaches a scorching lesson of logic to the so called sons of logic and enlightenment; those who carried high the torch of freedom and sang :

"Ich bin ein Berliner" before the wall...then..."Pull down that wall Mr Gorbachev"...Now : "we built the NSA wall to ensure our safety from ALL."

Wow, Berlin must be rocking in laughter! 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 08:59 | 4111375 Buckaroo Banzai
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Meh, fuck the Chinese. Spying on China is one of the few things the NSA is actually SUPPOSED to do.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:37 | 4111501 bullchit
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Without getting caught, you cunt!

$50 Billion a year and a schoolgirl pokes you in the eye! Heads should roll and scrotums should be split....


Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:00 | 4111378 El Oregonian
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Hell, this Administration would make Hitler's 'Brown Shirts' envious.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:14 | 4111412 falak pema
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Not just envious but premonitorily gleeful... I would not be surprised if there is a clique somewhere in the Congress or the frustrated brass hatted admin., Tea party drunk or otherwise spooked red hot in MiC, trying to concoct a "Night of the long knives" to these current "brown shirts"..."Now we won't the only mugs in history to get outmugged by black shirted thugs!"

Shoot, but does history ryhme big time! 

Its enuff to make me gulp my wine! 

PS : I concur on the view expressed on that unpronounceable word I call Dorothy's ISis complex! 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:36 | 4111493 Ranger4564
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Which administration? Since 2006 at least.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 13:27 | 4112369 Sparkey
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Why so worried? everything is in good hands, someone reported, on this site, that everything goes to Iran, or someplace over there,first, and after they get what they want they send the rest back, so it must be good for them too! Right?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 14:19 | 4112596 11b40
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First, let's remember that Nations don't have friends.  Nations only have interests.

Having said that, this was an exceptionally well written article.  I could not have said better myself....even had to look up diorthosis.  The fools we have elected to lead us seem happiest when poisoning wells and painting themselves into corners.

"the diorthosis President Barack Obama has promised seems all but skin-deep."  

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 08:57 | 4111364 FrankDrakman
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Gotta love any article that includes the word "diorthosis".

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:11 | 4111413 Bastiat
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I took one off for diorthosis.  What's the Greek word for over-the-top?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:22 | 4111446 Peter Pan
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Hyperbole (????????) if my classical Greek is right.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:30 | 4111470 Bastiat
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Wrong word.  No exaggeration here just a bit of overstuffed vocabulary.  The word is accurate but so obscure that it's use is distracting.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:42 | 4111521 Peter Pan
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Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:12 | 4111416 Terminus C
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had to look it up, learned a new word today. 

Thanks Xinhua!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:53 | 4111566 29.5 hours
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Ditto. That was the first time I had to Google a word from ZeroHedge that wasn't some esoteric pejorative or scatological reference I was too square to get.



Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:14 | 4111420 Peter Pan
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Must be Greek week coming up.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:15 | 4111422 Peter Pan
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Must be Greek week coming up. Either that or all their words are abandoning the country as well.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:54 | 4111582 etresoi
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For you undereducated Amerkins, it means amendment, improvement, reformation, plus others.  The sad fact is Chinese English speakers speak better English than the average Amerkin, as do most European English speakers.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:15 | 4111645 Running On Bing...
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Proof, listen to Presidential hopeful Herman on his radio show. Could you imaging if this ghetto jive talker ever made it to center stage to represent this country. Burger King nation.

What a joke.


Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:42 | 4111728 falak pema
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plethora of diorthosis on this thread. 

Acme of pedantic vocabulaire.

Maybe we should keep things simple and say ethically based empiricism is to revisionism what circumcision is to the uncut. 

Very precise in its factual penetrability of the unknown; dark continent.

Now you know I am truly drunk ready for junk as long as its post halloween debunk. 

I'm still trying to recover from WB7's diorthosis of Hank PAulson ! 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:38 | 4112144 Dr. Bonzo
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Nah, it's an annoying trait among dumb people who pretend to be intelligent throwing around big words to wow morons. True intelligence is stating complex ideas as simply and concisely as possible.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:18 | 4112069 Wannabee
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Must of lifted from a George Will column

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 08:56 | 4111365 new game
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all this non-event (as if they didn't already know) because snowman went rougue? not buying all this b.s.

gee wilickars-someone is peeping in the bedroom window fuken-eh...

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 08:56 | 4111366 dick cheneys ghost
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So Obomba knew about spying on World Bank/IMF and halted this practice, but he didnt know about spying on world leaders??

Any spying on Bank of International Settlements?????

Que ~francis_sawyer~

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:50 | 4111561 etresoi
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There is no need to spy on BIS... look at the roster of experts, who are living in Basel.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 08:59 | 4111368 suteibu
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While righteous in light of America's continuing condemnation of Chinese cyber warfare and monetization policies, it misses the point by couching it strictly in national security terms.  In corporatist/fascist America, the NSA actions tilt the commercial playing field to American corporations' benefit. 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:59 | 4111605 greatbeard
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>> American corporations

These corporations have no nationality nor loyalty.  The US rulers have whored themselves out on the cheap to these international sociopaths and will get nothing but crumbs in return. 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:08 | 4111628 suteibu
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Sure, the economy is globalized, but Washington is still the center of power in the world.  I would argue that Obama and his many minions would not have power without the corporations, media and banks.  I doubt Obama considers his position of power as mere "crumbs."  Nor do I.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:13 | 4111640 RaceToTheBottom
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"....tilt the commercial playing field to American corporations' benefit. "


American firms have more to loose than to gain. 

In the worst case the new, post NSA internet will be done without American technology firms.

In the best case, the adoption of the internet will be slowed due to increased encryption, trust and other issues/responses.  This will dampen all businesses which will again affect American firms.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:19 | 4111665 suteibu
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Indeed.  No one said it was a good long-term strategy, but corporate boards have quarterly time frames and politicians think in terms of 2, 4, or 6 years, and they all seem to escape with their money and their fame intact while leaving the future to fend for itself.  Who of them give a shit about the future when there is money to be made and agendas to be pushed NOW?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:01 | 4111381 new game
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nailed it- da fuken money honey...

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:02 | 4111383 Watchingtheweasels
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What makes the international community think that a government which isn't concerned about flagrantly violating the 4th amendment to its own constitution and spying on every one of its own citizens would be at all concerned about spying on them?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:06 | 4111390 Peter Pan
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Borrowing , bugging, bombing and perhaps one day begging.

The US sadly reminds me of those people who win the major lottery or a massive inheritance and then proceed to destroy themselves.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:12 | 4111397 Ghordius
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"What is counterintuitive in the NSA forage is its nonsensical approach: relentless and indiscriminate like a vacuum cleaner. It just bugs everybody, even its closest allies in Europe"

a product of new technology which makes all old models of what is permissible or tolerable in spying subject to new bargaining

perhaps allies is the wrong word. I prefer the word clients. Uncle Sam has a profitable business model, which I tried to explain a bit more in detail to GW here on ZH

this business model is around security, including that of the clients

yet as all business models, clients need to trust the provider, particularly if it's a security provider

the huge (Homeland) Security System that sprung up after 9/11 is not servicing external clients

as such, it could be seen as a titanic knee-jerk reaction. and a very simple way to pump lots of money into the economy

yet by using the Security System against the "Account Managers" of the clients (and getting caught), the gap between the business model and the way it's understood it today in the US became obvious

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 13:05 | 4112274 mick_richfield
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Sounds right to me!  (Except I don't think HomeSec pumps money into the economy, nor was meant to...)

Doesn't anybody with those downticks have a comment?


Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:07 | 4111398 jon dough
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Beavis: "He said Janus-faced, huh-huh, huh-huh"...




Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:13 | 4111417 Quinvarius
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You can trust us to pay back our debt without printing the money too.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:23 | 4111419 El Oregonian
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This is a 'dumbass alert' for the idiot running down this board giving negative feedback to everyone w/o obviously reading any of the posts. Typical 'Tard reaction.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:24 | 4111457 Bastiat
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He went back and changed them all to plus ones and down voted you. 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:48 | 4111549 etresoi
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It truly is amazing that some dumbasses have nothing better to do with their time.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:29 | 4111468 El Oregonian
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Fixed. dumbass has removed the negatives. What a effing DUMBASS!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:25 | 4111455 Fíréan
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Maybe "they" have a fear of those who are "in the know" on other controversial matters ( over the years), and a fear of whoever knows who should not and who may have already divulged their knowledge outside of the accepted boundaries and to whom, or who knows and will attempt to use that knowledge as leverage or influence.
The level of paranoia must be extreme when the lies and deception are so big and the actions so controversial, and contrary to the beliefs of the average citizen. A bigger Bamboozle than anyone ever had imaged or considered.

(edited to add "" around the first usage of word they)

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:41 | 4111512 Reaper
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What does Big Bro fear? That some thing, some where will sprout, metastasize and destroy them. Big Bro's enemies could sprout within or without. Big Bro believes his Central plans are flawless, but awakes at night with nightmarish doubts. Their paranoia breeds more paranoia. Part of the Ministry of Truth believes that Big Bro's words are believed, and part doubts. Big Bro knows deep within that none of them are really uebermenschen. They fear other real uebermenschen exist. Big Bro, like Herod, must destroy them before they grow.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:40 | 4111513 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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You are being watched. The government has a secret system, a machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it. I designed the Machine to detect acts of terror but it sees everything. Violent crimes involving ordinary people. People like you. Crimes the government considered "irrelevant." They wouldn't act so I decided I would. But I needed a partner. Someone with the skills to intervene. Hunted by the authorities, we work in secret. You'll never find us. But victim or perpetrator, if your number is up, we'll find you.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 13:02 | 4112256 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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The NSA is using Finch's machine.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:44 | 4111526 Kina
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I believe they are also bugging colonoscopies.


They want to know everybody inside and out.


Check under the toilet seat....there will also be a small NSA camera.


And those who thought they were abducted by green aliens and given anal probes....nuh uh.... NSA

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:52 | 4111565 monad
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MSM grade drama. Every article is the same: USA is the villain, everyone else is without sin. Do some research. The espionage dimension of economic history is easy to trace. DYOH


Fri, 11/01/2013 - 09:53 | 4111571 Randoom Thought
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I think that China should stop doing business with the US in the same way that it has stopped doing business with Japan ... in otherwords, no stoppage at all.

IMO, the Chinese government, just like the US government thrives in an environment of hypocrisy and lies.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:07 | 4111621 WallowaMountainMan
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"Merkel and her peers in the U.S. alliance have every reason to feel insulted and betrayed. At the very least, they deserve the kind of respect and trust that underpins the practice that air travelers do not have to fly naked."


dadgum it, bettor cancel my flight.



Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:12 | 4111666 Manipuflation
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I have never heard that word before so I looked it up and lo and behold I found another ZHer wondering the same thing.


At any rate, someone needs to get a China a new English dictionary.  Until they get the new dictionary I would like to suggest other ways to refer to Obama without using a noun to describe another noun.  This a free service.

"Worthless piece of scum sucking shit"


"Cock sucking banker's bitch"


"Freeloading fascist bastard"


"No good son of a bitch"


"God damned lying prick"


"Enormous asshole"


These are just a few examples of how to properly refer to Obama that the Chinese media can use on the interim.  I am sure that ZHers can add many more examples of proper usage of the English language to refer to Obama.



Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:45 | 4111949 Son of Captain Nemo
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Completely understand your anxiety and frustration over the new Chinese definition as I was scratching my head and raised an eyebrow when I caught that word as well.

But guess what? We may be needing to get with the program as that dictionary may have a slew of new words in it we may need to learn from now on with Merriam/Webster being and Asian concern from here on out -thanks to the cocksuckers in Washington who gave it all away, and in turn give you and me an assault rifle to threaten them with over some land in Africa!

And here you have it -

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 13:01 | 4112245 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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U are being way too easy on him. The National Association Of Pieces Of Shit will be offended.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:23 | 4111677 ToNYC
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OSS rescued the SS in '45, Cheney and Rumsfeld rescued the Stasi in '01. Fascists with a Dr. Strangelove plan; this is no time to think.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:16 | 4111831 Son of Captain Nemo
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"One has to trust in order to be trusted. It is particularly true in friendships and alliances. America obviously failed to follow the simple rule. If Washington did not knit the worldwide wiretapping web just because it could, then its pillage for information unveils an Uncle Sam too deeply entrenched in suspicion and isolation to treat anyone as a real friend."...

This is what always happens when the balance of power stays in the hands of a select few for too long who grow only more complacent, narcissistic and drunk with power over time treating trust as a handicap of imperfection and "weakness", instead of the most important basic necessity of the moral virtues there is.

What makes it worse is when this level of complacency dominates the culture or personality to the point that it becomes rational behavior by those who perceive themselves as “in charge”.  This ironically from a deadbeat nation who is no longer economically viable and indiscriminately projects it’s power to get what it wants.

To the “imperfect” and “weak”: Time to roll up those sleeves and be counted.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:08 | 4112036 22winmag
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Obama is gonna stop spying. Why? Because he got caught.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:24 | 4112097 NoWayJose
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The really 'spooky' part of this is that with Snowden still not 'silenced by the CIA' the White House is neither coming clean on everything, nor denying anything.  They are forced to live with this trickle of leaks because the one thing they fear is to say something and then have Snowden leak proof the next day that they are lying.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:43 | 4112159 Son of Captain Nemo
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Ba Da Ba Ba Ba...

And I'm Lovin It!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:58 | 4112224 Billy Shears
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But I thought it is only the tea party and conservatives that are "paranoid! "

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 13:40 | 4112441 falak pema
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And now this about turn by Feinstein : Senate Intelligence Committee Passes Bill That Codifies, Expands NSA Powers

We now have NSA practices which are embedded into Law.

So much for NSA over reach!!!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 16:07 | 4113097 vspam
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The Chinese are upping their journalistic writing.  Must be a recent American university educated Chinese.  Pretty entertaining with a lot of snarky humor, not to mention the word diorthosis.

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