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Obama Issues Executive Order To Prepare For Climate War

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Two months ago we reported that Obama had officially declared war on the weather, after it was reported that he was ready to use "administrative authority" to fight climate change. While at the time it was not quite clear just what authority he had to unleash centrally-planned weather, today we finally got a glimpse of how Obama's biggest war yet would look like.

As Washington Times reports, "President Obama issued an executive order Friday directing a government-wide effort to boost preparation in states and local communities for the impact of global warming. The action orders federal agencies to work with states to build “resilience” against major storms and other weather extremes. For example, the president’s order directs that infrastructure projects like bridges and flood control take into consideration climate conditions of the future, which might require building structures larger or stronger — and likely at a higher price tag."

In other words, following the epic Syrian fiasco, whose primary intention was to boost the US budget deficit as a result of a localized war, and allow Bernanke more debt issues to monetize, Obama now has decided to unleash a very expensive, and very much debt-funded war against the greatest enemy of all: the weather.

The article goes on:

“The impacts of climate change — including an increase in prolonged periods of excessively high temperatures, more heavy downpours, an increase in wildfires, more severe droughts, permafrost thawing, ocean acidification and sea-level rise — are already affecting communities, natural resources, ecosystems, economies and public health across the nation,” the presidential order said. “The federal government must build on recent progress and pursue new strategies to improve the nation’s preparedness and resilience.”

 

There’s no estimate of how much the additional planning will cost. Natural disasters including Superstorm Sandy cost the U.S. economy more than $100 billion in 2012, according to the administration.

Well, the more the merrier. Since interest costs in the New Normal are not an issue as long as the Marriner Eccles politburo is around, debt is wealth, and the more debt the US incurs to comply with Obama's latest executive order, the better.

Sure enough, as a result of this idiotic development, it is best to have very lofty aspirations, of the variety that come in 9 or more digits: after all, since nobody can quantify "climate change" may as well unleash the most ridiculous numbers conceivable.

The White House is also setting up a task force of state and local leaders to offer advice to the federal government, with several Democratic governors having agreed to serve and at least one Republican governor, from the U.S. territory of Guam.

 

Mr. Obama has a goal of reducing U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by 17 percent by 2020, and the Environmental Protection Agency is working on rules that would impose tougher regulations on coal-burning power plants. But much of the president’s climate-change agenda has stalled in Congress, and the administration says the new order recognizes that global greenhouse gas emissions are still rising, making further damage from global warming inevitable.

Actually no:

But since when did an autocrat, whose only concern is pandering to his populist, Obamaphone-equipped electorate, while spying on the middle class and doing the bidding of Wall Street, care about the facts?

Finally:

“The question is not whether we need to act,” Mr. Obama said at the time. “The question is whether we will have the courage to act before it’s too late.”

Damn right: however the "action in question has nothing to do with spending trillions to prepare for a crisis that may come long after the Federal Reserve has destroyed western civilization, but rather to overthrow a corrupt, oligarchic, self-serving system, in which the middle-class, once the backbone of a great nation, is being forced into extinction by its "elected" representatives through the most subversive form of wealth transfer in the Fed's 100 years of existence.

 


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Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:48 | Link to Comment negative rates
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You can't fight mother nature!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Global Hunter
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the war on mother nature!!! 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:53 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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More like a defensive rear-guard action at this point. Humanity is probably behind the 8-ball and going to stay there.

If not, then we'll have some nice bridges to last the ages. The Romans would be proud.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:56 | Link to Comment Stackers
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"Under my energy plan, of a cap and trade system, electricty rates would necessarily sky rocket"

~Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORlwQ739hcg

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:59 | Link to Comment localsavage
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The small fraction of their income represented by rising energy costs means nothing to the ruling class.  The only way that they would even know it is happening is if one of their accountants pointed it out.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:08 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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It's the Weathergirls that he wants to control, not the weather.  They are responsible for his favorite song of all time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5aZJBLAu1E

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Oh, so THAT'S what 1,200,000,000 rounds of ammunition are for.  They're going to SHOOT at the bad weather.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Oh the irony of it all... America is burning up while it has a huge surplus of unwanted electricity on the grid.

Perhaps Obama should order Texans to open their windows and crank up all air conditioners to 'High'...

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:04 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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 'It's good to be the King!'  Or is it Emperor? What an asshole....

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:10 | Link to Comment nmewn
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He's acting as crazy as Biden lately.

I never thought he would be able to stand the strain anyways ;-)

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:19 | Link to Comment Theosebes Goodfellow
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Just watch, he'll call a joint session of Congress and declare war on.... the Sun!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:37 | Link to Comment TwoShortPlanks
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It's a war on consumerism and wasteful standards of living...it's called Agenda21.

"Citizens, keep off the grassed areas!"

http://twoshortplanksunplugged.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/agenda-21-sustain...

TSP - normalcy bias is your enemy's weapon of choice.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:43 | Link to Comment erg
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I made a bunch of eco-fascists cry the other day when I was stabbing the grass with my pen knife. They accused me of gaiacide and biophilia.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 21:21 | Link to Comment adr
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Is biophilia fucking dead garden mums?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 23:56 | Link to Comment TwoShortPlanks
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molesting mulch.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 01:33 | Link to Comment James_Cole
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Weather and climate are not the same thing.

CO2 emissions are mildly down worldwide (giant recession and all) but the west has simply outsourced pollution (along with manufacturing) to the east, so charts that show CO2 trending way down are idiotic. Added to that, CO2 emission rates remain suicidally high.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/2/10/1297...

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 07:04 | Link to Comment Hopeful Skeptic
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The west has "outsourced" pollution? Welcome to progressive-speak. Pollution is clearly a problem in China, but the outsourcing from the west isn't *forcing* China to pollute. And even more strict regulations in the U.S. won't move the global needle one statistical iota. If anything, the higher cost of the regulations in this country will push even *more* outsourcing to China, where they appear not to give a rat's ass about pollution.

 

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment logicalman
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Concentrating on global warming/climate change is a huge distraction, whether it's happening or not.

Humans have fucked up every part of the planet they've touched - there might be a few square inches they've missed.

Plastic is killing the oceans

Acidification is killing the oceans

Overfishing is killing the oceans

Fertiliser run off is killing the oceans.

Oil production and fracking for methane are destroying the land

Monsatan is intent on destroying agriculture in favour of factory farming.

Use of antibiotics to fatten livestock has pretty much made them useless by producing resistant bacteria.

Habitat destruction is causing extintions of many species of land animals.

Then there's Fukushima, Hanford and all the other leaky nukes.

Shit, it's unlikely we'll have to worry about climate change, all the rest will have killed us off long before it becomes a real threat.

Nature will sort all this out over a few million years, once the shaved apes are gone.

We're all downwind.

 

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 15:09 | Link to Comment James_Cole
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@ Hopeful skeptic

The west has "outsourced" pollution?

China is the manufacturing centre for most products generally sold by the west (see: wal-mart), outsourcing the manufacturing also means sending the pollution that goes with it, it's not rocket science. 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=earth-talks-outsourcing...

http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/images/2013.06.21/topimport.png

Also China itself:

http://qz.com/93628/china-is-outsourcing-pollution-internally-to-meet-ca...

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 08:04 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Now if the EPA could just mandate those gazzilion trees on the planet quit suiciding themselves and releasing their "deadly" CO2 into the atmosphere we'd have it licked. Trees seem like rational people, surely they understand.

Then the bureaucrats can go to work on volcanoes & humans and animals breathing it out.

Their work is never done! ;-)

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 09:10 | Link to Comment DanDaley
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Earth's average temperature over millions of years in much higher than it is at present, and CO2 is much higher than it is at present.

http://tinyurl.com/k2je84y

 

Humans have lived through higher CO2 and ice ages long before cars and smoke-stacks...but this time is different, right, because the control-freak lefties say so?!

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment Mark Urbo
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Obamacare was not about healthcare...

 

..and the global warming "green" agenda is not about the climate.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 16:15 | Link to Comment DanDaley
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Right, as Czech Republic President, Vaclav Klaus, states, the arrogance and ambitions of the global climate alarmists are very similar to those of the central planning communists under which he lived 2 decades ago.

It's all about control of YOU!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/vaclav-klaus-the-arrogance-of-the-global-war...

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 01:01 | Link to Comment thestarl
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Maybe so only difference is that now there are 7 billion of us but somehow i think that climate change will be the least of our problems 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:53 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Just watch, he'll call a joint session of Congress and declare war on.... the Sun!

"On July fourth of this year, America will blow up the moon. We have the technology, the time is now, science can wait no longer, children are our future. America can, should, must, and will blow up the moon."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csj7vMKy4EI

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 11:38 | Link to Comment fockewulf190
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Obama should have instead signed an executive order mandating an upgrade of the electrical grid to harden it against the consequences of a future Carrington Event.  THAT would have made sense, since another Carrington Event happening in the future is a certainty.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 22:39 | Link to Comment Whoa Dammit
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"Look there, Sancho Panza, my friend, and see those thirty or so wild giants, with whom I intend to do battle and kill each and all of them, so with their stolen booty we can begin to enrich ourselves. This is nobel, righteous warfare, for it is wonderfully useful to God to have such an evil race wiped from the face of the earth."


"What giants?" Asked Sancho Panza.


"The ones you can see over there," answered his master, "with the huge arms, some of which are very nearly two leagues long."


"Now look, your grace," said Sancho, "what you see over there aren't giants, but windmills."

Don Quixote

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 23:21 | Link to Comment ReactionToClose...
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one of the funniest, most sly, books ever written ....sadly forgotten as a classic.  bravo Whoa Dammit for invoking it on this particular thread .....

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 01:36 | Link to Comment James_Cole
Sat, 11/02/2013 - 09:35 | Link to Comment fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Obama has not been only a asshole for a long time. He is more like the stupid motherfucker who lets his dog shit on your lawn and then smiles at you. Assholes never let you see them do it.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:19 | Link to Comment johnQpublic
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if this goes as well as the war on drugs or poverty, the entire US should be on fire from rising temperatures within the span of this presidential term

Bullish!

oops

bullshit fits better

Q: easier or harder to fight a war against something that isnt real?

next up...war on unicorns

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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How about a war on war?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 22:47 | Link to Comment Bollixed
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A war on peace would be even better. That way at least we could be assured of more peace.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 07:51 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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The economy is wrecked, Obamacare is a pile of shit causing millions to lose health insurance, all out allies hate us for spying on them and this ass hat wants to fight climate change now!!??

Get the fuck out of here already with all your stupid shit Barry!

Sheeesh!

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Mark Urbo
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You can delete "hat".

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:09 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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No worries.

Our Dictator for Life will hold back the tides.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:40 | Link to Comment Seahorse
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Like king cnut

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 23:27 | Link to Comment The Burning Planet
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As I recall Cnut was disabused of that notion.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 09:22 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Drownded.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment logicalman
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I think a little research would help here.

He was actually showing that the king couldn't hold the tide back, even if his power came from god.

 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:43 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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Well, why not? The man single handedly solved our healthcare crisis. Why not use his Godly influence to solve our climate crisis. Many societies deified their emperors historically. We're just privileged to live in a modern country that has a living God as our dictator. Now start feeling special damn it!

Miffed;-)

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:01 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Time to burn some leaves.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:10 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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"Under my plan, America would necessarily become a Dictatorship, with me at the helm, of course."

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:50 | Link to Comment El Oregonian
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"The action orders federal agencies to work with states to build “resilience” against major storms and other weather extremes."

Well, if it wasn't for government-sponsored HAARP ignitions creating Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Earthquakes, Droughts, record amounts of flooding, or record-busting snowfalls during "freakish" times of the year. Then I guess this would be the "Broken Glass" version of Keynesian methodology.

Effing criminals.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 22:23 | Link to Comment One And Only
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@stackers

I've seen that clip before but there is something that should be said that isn't.

It is a rare moment where you get to see one inescapable fact about Obama's ideology. He doesn't care about costs nor does he care about the impact on the end user...the consumer; the citizen.

In that clip he ADMITTED that he doesn't care. It is a testament to who he is and how much he just doesn't care.

Just like he KNEW premiums would go up and people would lose their insurance plans and their doctors.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:43 | Link to Comment Seahorse
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Do people still fall for that shit?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:54 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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Unfortunately the programing goes deep. Most will never snap out and accept they were taken for fools (they are) but the idea will eventually fade away.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 08:47 | Link to Comment PapSmear
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Our Dear Leader is just following through on his promises of healing the planet and making sea levels recede. This is the moment!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pZSvq9bto&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Du2pZ...

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:55 | Link to Comment NihilistZero
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Well, at least we know Mother Nature will win :-)

See The War on DRugs, The War on Terror, The War on Poverty, etc.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:03 | Link to Comment What you talkin...
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The war on the middle class ain't going to bad

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:40 | Link to Comment knukles
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Yeah, but that's not a declared war.
They're trying to save the Middle Class and it's Disappearing, so Business As Normal.

fucking amazing....

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:15 | Link to Comment saltedGold
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That mother nature bitch has been controlling things for too long!  It's about time someone steps up to her!!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:21 | Link to Comment Ness.
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This Obama guy is fucking nuts and getting worse.  I'm surprised he didn't suggest we arrange a cage match between Mr. Heat Miser and Mr. Snow Miser... two men enter, one man leaves.  Winner take all.  WFT?

 

At least this video is funny, because this administration sure isn't.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGRkNaMFp6w

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 21:48 | Link to Comment bunzbunzbunz
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Please watch my UTUBE video so i can make ad monies!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:44 | Link to Comment rbg81
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There is precedent for this.  I seem to recall that Caligula declared war on Neptune (the Water god).  "Great" minds think alike I suppose.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 01:05 | Link to Comment e_goldstein
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First thing it reminded me of when I read this.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 08:42 | Link to Comment rbg81
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I wonder if Obama will collect his victory tribute in sea shells as well.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:52 | Link to Comment SkottFree
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Break out the bed sheets and stop the wind, cars, trucks, Europe, China, Africa, airplanes, White house Limos, boats, subs, aircraft carriers, planes, mining operations, factories, mouth breathers! This must end now!

Sun soon to be blocked out!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 23:31 | Link to Comment The Burning Planet
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"Break out the bed sheets"

Break out the sheets of acid.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:54 | Link to Comment Manthong
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This is rich.. Global Atmospheric Warfare to take our attention off this:

http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/top-generals-obama-is-purging-the-military/

..and what’s worse,

I just learned the Chicoms have Green Bay, WI and Lansing, MI in their nuclear crosshairs..

http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/image/10312013_china-nuke-strike8201jpg/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/inside-china-nuclear-submarines-capable-of-widespr/

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:04 | Link to Comment NOTaREALmerican
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Re: and Lansing, MI

Ever been to Lansing MI?   The Chinese couldn't do that much damage.

Re:  and what’s worse

On the last thread people were bitching about any Fed troops with weapons, and now you are saying some "patriotic" General wants to increase their numbers?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:36 | Link to Comment Manthong
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a. yes, I have

b. a few hundred k-ton yield might be considered urban renewal

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:49 | Link to Comment Manthong
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O – M - G..

those godless, slant-eyed, yellow slopes have Lake Ashtabula, ND and the Mall of America targeted, too.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:29 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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I would think the target is East Lansing.

I live about one mile from the Superconducting Cyclotron and the soon to be FRIB, Facility for Rare Isotope Beams.

How It Works

A beam of stable nuclei is accelerated to half the speed of light and directed at a thin target material. When the beam impacts the target, the resulting collision creates a number of reaction products. Among those products are sought-after rare isotope. This mixture continues to speed down the beamline, where a series of magnets separate the desired isotopes for study.

Why It's Important

With FRIB we will, for the first time, have the capability to produce most of the same rare isotopes that are created in the thermonuclear explosions of supernovae, which then decay into the elements found on Earth. This will help us better understand the origins of the elements. The same isotopes are needed to develop a comprehensive model of atomic nuclei and how they interact.

Researchers using FRIB will be able to improve their understanding of how nuclear particles may be used to model, diagnose, and cure diseases. The improved nuclear models and precision data will allow optimization of the next generation of nuclear reactors and evaluation of techniques to destroy nuclear waste. They will probe advanced materials to examine the processes involved on the nano- and micro-scale, providing insights into how materials are affected by radiation and other forces. Modeling atomic nuclei and their interactions – a challenging problem in science – can also help lead to breakthroughs in security, the environment, high energy physics, nanoscience, and more.

Education of the next generation of scientists is a top priority. FRIB will build on the tradition to routinely involve undergraduate and graduate students in research. FRIB will expand those opportunities. MSU's nuclear physics graduate program is ranked No. 1 in the nation, according to U.S. News and World Report's rankings of graduate schools for 2010. Each year about 10 percent of the nation's nuclear science PhD awardees are educated at MSU.

http://www.frib.msu.edu/about

http://www.frib.msu.edu/

MSU has a very fine nuclear physics dept.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:41 | Link to Comment knukles
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Another fine mess they're getting us into.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:47 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Never-ending.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 22:23 | Link to Comment Manthong
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hmm.. maybe there's some massive NSA or nuclear weapons facility under the Mall of America..

or better yet, HAARP Central Control.. that would explain a lot about what happens above ground there.  

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:46 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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dup

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:19 | Link to Comment WOAR
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I like how the Chinese talk about maximizing civilian casualties by attacking highly populated urban centers, like Los Angeles and San Diego.

Not that I like those places, but so much for the rules of war. The U.S. is the only one that pretends to follow them. Let's just go full Nazi and destroy the Middle East and plant a flag on it already. Jesus...

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:24 | Link to Comment NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Middle East and plant a flag on it already. Jesus...

You answered your own question, actually.

Jesus can't come back if you did that.   

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:57 | Link to Comment Froman
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"...you don't mess with mother-in-laws, mother nature and mother frickin Ukranians..."

-Skinny Pete, The Italian Job

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:05 | Link to Comment Clayton Bigsby
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Fuck you Obama

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:20 | Link to Comment RafterManFMJ
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I can't believe it's not bluster!!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:29 | Link to Comment squib
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Planet X preparations I tells ya!

 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:21 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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Pravda reports that President Putin is amazed that Americans would elect such a stupid president. Like the guy more every day; Putin, that is.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:47 | Link to Comment knukles
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This is what we get for electing a black man based Not Upon His Capabilities, but on the uber-liberal's Great White Guilt Lament meant to  be assuaged by their benevolent introduction of a "black man" as president.

.... for which they were wrong on 2 counts...

.... he's not black, he's a mulatto
.... there are hundreds if not thousands if not millions of more qualified "black" men than he...

They didn't give a fuck about quality, just the frilly shit around the edges.. which was all not original parts trim

Look an pony!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 23:31 | Link to Comment The Burning Planet
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Yeah but he can teleprompt like nobody's business. 

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 09:43 | Link to Comment fxrxexexdxoxmx
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 mulatto 

Is that like a "halfa cracker"?

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 09:05 | Link to Comment Svendblaaskaeg
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catastrophic man-made global warming is not a hoax!

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past!

/sarc

Roger Pielke, Jr. : A Handy Bullshit Button on Disasters and Climate Change

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.dk/2012/03/handy-bullshit-button-on-disast...

 

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 09:39 | Link to Comment Svendblaaskaeg
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 You are here: Climate Optimum

Be happy

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 18:50 | Link to Comment Dr. Everett V. Scott
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There is no corellation between CO2 and temperature. None. As CO2 rises, global temperatures continue to fall.

 

Look at this chart, covering the past 17 years:

 

http://tiny.cc/3e1x5w

 

CO2 is not causing 'global warming'. The "carbon" scare is a money-grubbing scam: since 2001, more than $100 BILLION has been wasted on 'climate studies'. That's our tax money, folks.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Black Warrior W...
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What a crock of horseshit.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:52 | Link to Comment kill switch
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HAARP

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:14 | Link to Comment Rainman
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+ 1 .....looked out the window and Rome is still burning.

cap n tax baby..here it come !

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment RafterManFMJ
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Pretty sure this will be a net positive for the economy. Not to self, spend next months paycheck on beans and rice in 50 pound sacks.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:28 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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LOL. something like that. good giggle.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:48 | Link to Comment 1000 splendid suns
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Still waiting for them to play the alien card.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:00 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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I'm not saying it's aliens but -- no yeah it's aliens.

http://memegenerator.net/instance/31798258

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:25 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Take a close look at Barry. They are already here.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Devotional
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Your president is out of control.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Sam Clemons
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He's a puppet.  And a dumbass.  I expect us to plunge ourselves into an ice age - the exact opposite of what's anticipated.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:05 | Link to Comment CH1
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I expect us to plunge ourselves into an ice age

Actually, we're about due for one. They've been very regular for the last quarter million years or so.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:16 | Link to Comment tsx500
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no wories.    baryy's got this.    Chill.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:48 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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I wonder how Obama is planning to stop the record antarctic ice levels that all this global warming is creating...

 

"September marks the end of Antarctica's winter, and daily sea ice reports posted online at the National Snow & Ice Data Center (NSIDC) in Boulder, Colo., suggest the growing ice pack has already smashed the all-time record ice extent set in September 2012."

http://www.livescience.com/39720-antarctica-ice-record-highs-2013.html

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 08:10 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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I doubt he's going to let the details hold him back.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 08:18 | Link to Comment nmewn
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I think he should assemble a press gaggle before him, wave his arms around, thrust his bony finger at the camera and draw some sorta unilateral redline in the snow that he can walk away from later.

It is what he does best ;-)

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 08:45 | Link to Comment James-Morrison
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If you like your weather, you can keep it.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 08:47 | Link to Comment nmewn
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ROTFL!!!

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 11:09 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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Doesn't matter. I'm sure somewhere they're cobbling together a Nobel Prize Award to honor him for tackling this new " crisis". I'm sure my suggestion " I'm A Fucking Idiot" for the name won't be considered.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 09:45 | Link to Comment fxrxexexdxoxmx
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He is a puppet just like Stalin or Mao. No more excuses, he is a die hard communist and nothing more.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:48 | Link to Comment One And Only
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Someone should tell Obama the polar ice caps added 1 million square  miles of ice this year.... Most EVER recorded. Global warmmmmiiiinnnnggg.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment CH1
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Someone should tell Obama the polar ice caps added 1 million square  miles of ice

They don't care, and they never have.

This is about bullshitting and frightening gullible people and gaining power from it. Nothing more.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:28 | Link to Comment new game
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global warmongering...

sumting he be good at.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 07:34 | Link to Comment trader1
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Arctic sea ice has been steadily thinning, even in the last few years while the surface ice (eg - sea ice extent) increased slightly. Consequently, the total amount of Arctic sea ice in 2008 and 2009 are the lowest on record. [source]

 

The reason so many climate scientists predicted more ice this year than last is quite simple. There's a principle in statistics known as "regression toward the mean," which is the phenomenon that if an extreme value of a variable is observed, the next measurement will generally be less extreme. In other words, we should not often expect to observe records in consecutive years. 2012 shattered the previous record low sea ice extent; hence 'regression towards the mean' told us that 2013 would likely have a higher minimum extent.

The amount of Arctic sea ice left at the end of the annual melt season is mainly determined by two factors – natural variability (weather patterns and ocean cycles), and human-caused global warming. The Arctic has lost 75 percent of its summer sea ice volume over the past three decades primarily due to human-caused global warming, but in any given year the weather can act to either preserve more or melt more sea ice. Last year the weather helped melt more ice, while this year the weather helped preserve more ice. [source]

 

After an unusually cold summer in the northernmost latitudes, Arctic sea ice appears to have reached its annual minimum summer extent for 2013 on Sept. 13, the NASA-supported National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) at the University of Colorado in Boulder has reported. Analysis of satellite data by NSIDC and NASA showed that the sea ice extent shrunk to 1.97 million square miles (5.10 million square kilometers).

This year's sea ice extent is substantially higher than last year's record low minimum. On Sept.16, 2012, Arctic sea ice reached its smallest extent ever recorded by satellites at 1.32 million square miles (3.41 million square kilometers). That is about half the size of the average minimum extent from 1981 to 2010.

This summer's minimum is still the sixth lowest extent of the satellite record and is 432,000 square miles (1.12 million square kilometers) lower than the 1981-2010 average, roughly the size of Texas and California combined.

The 2013 summertime minimum extent is in line with the long-term downward trend of about 12 percent per decade since the late 1970s, a decline that has accelerated after 2007. This year’s rebound from 2012 does not disagree with this downward trend and is not a surprise to scientists.

...

"The trend with decreasing sea ice is having a high-pressure area in the center of the Arctic, which compresses the ice pack into a smaller area and also results in clear skies, which enhances melting due to the sun," said Richard Cullather, an atmospheric scientist at Goddard and at the Earth System Science Interdisciplinary Center of the University of Maryland, College Park, Md. "This year, there was low pressure, so the cloudiness and the winds associated with the cyclones expanded the ice."

The remaining Arctic sea ice cover is much thinner on average than it was years ago. Satellite imagery, submarine sonar measurements, and data collected from NASA’s Operation IceBridge, an airborne survey of polar ice, indicate that the Arctic sea ice thickness is as much as 50 percent thinner than it was in previous decades, going from an average thickness of 12.5 feet (3.8 meters) in 1980 to 6.2 feet (1.9 meters) in recent years. The thinning is due to the loss of older, thicker ice, which is being replaced by thinner seasonal ice.

Most of the Arctic Ocean used to be covered by multiyear ice, or ice that has survived at least two summers and is typically 10 to 13 feet (3 to 4 meters) thick. This older ice has declined at an even faster rate than younger ice and is now largely relegated to a strip along the northern coast of Greenland. The rest of the Arctic Ocean is dominated by first year ice, or ice that formed over the previous winter and is only 3 to 7 feet (1 to 2 meters) thick.

"Thinner ice melts completely at a faster rate than thicker ice does, so if the average thickness of Arctic sea ice goes down, it’s more likely that the extent of the summer ice will go down as well," said Joey Comiso, senior scientist at Goddard and coordinating lead author of the Cryosphere Observations chapter of the upcoming report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. "At the rate we’re observing this decline, it’s very likely that the Arctic’s summer sea ice will completely disappear within this century." [source]

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 07:50 | Link to Comment overmedicatedun...
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trader 1..funny how in your long copy and paste, the SUN is never a factor, so much useless speculation on more ice but thinner, and you know thin ice melts faster..this is science for you? try looking at temp stations across the modern world not set in pristine areas but right next to AC units and on black top..but data used none the less..idiots love computer generated facts.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 10:46 | Link to Comment trader1
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In the last 35 years of global warming, the sun has shown a slight cooling trend. Sun and climate have been going in opposite directions. In the past century, the Sun can explain some of the increase in global temperatures, but a relatively small amount. [source]

don't just read the copy/paste.  it should encourage you to click the source link to familiarize yourself with the science behind it.  

alas, i know i'm expecting too much of you and most of the ZHers here...

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:25 | Link to Comment RafterManFMJ
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LoL

Wake up, Yo!

Solar minimum, new little ice age, elites retreat to DUMBs...

Topside population decreases by 90 percent.

Now you tell me, who's crazy? Keep strivin' bitches!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:48 | Link to Comment knukles
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Why is it most folks don't listen about this stuff?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 21:07 | Link to Comment Sam Clemons
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The seed banks are ready.  

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:49 | Link to Comment WelfareFTW
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gold bitchez!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Charles Nelson ...
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good for him... getting after the important stuff!

for awhile I thought all this shit was planned.  I honestly now believe these fuckers are so inept, arrogant and out to lunch that they don't even see what is coming.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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If you like your climate you can keep your climate.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:31 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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LOL. Yeah; absolutely. We'll just kind of change the climate all around you, you know; but you can keep your present climate. Definetely. Cracking up while typing. LOL.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:48 | Link to Comment Duc888
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Why doesn't he just "outlaw" it?      Ya know, like banning guns in D.C.  That'll fix it instantly.  He could do this by 10 am on Monday morning, ya know?

 

jeez. seems like such an easy solution.

 

I think Obama has god syndrome.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:55 | Link to Comment orez65
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Or Congress could give the Federal Reserve a new mandate: cool the world.

All they've had to do is print more dollars!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Duc888
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"Your president is out of control."

 

He's not the President, he's an usurper.  But yes, I agree he is a bit full of himself, isn't he?

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:00 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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Almost in need of a straight jacket...

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Devotional
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Thought I would share this video, it has some awesome and valid facts on Climate change. Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnsoFFVYSZk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuYTcnN7TQk

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:51 | Link to Comment ShrNfr
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Oh, and how many Atlantic hurricanes did we have this year? One. Did it come ashore? No. Ok how about tornadoes? Down from the 1970s. Ok, there has to be something...

Asshole paying off the Gorge lobby.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:50 | Link to Comment orez65
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At the end of the last ice age there was a 3 mile high wall of ice extending south to Arkansas.

Thank God for global warming!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:34 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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Exaclty. The non-human caused cause of this century being a little bit warmer than last century is that last century was cold. On the other hand in 900AD it was as warm, or warmer, globally, than it is now. Co2 does have a measurable effect; it grows food. Green Plants live on Co2; something like 5-6% of the world's food production in the last 20 years is due to the new more favorable balance of CO2 in the Air. People are hopelessly insane.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 07:18 | Link to Comment trader1
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Our climate is governed by the following principle: when you add more heat to our climate, global temperatures rise. Conversely, when the climate loses heat, temperatures fall. Say the planet is in positive energy imbalance. More energy is coming in than radiating back out to space. This is known as radiative forcing, the change in net energy flow at the top of the atmosphere. When the Earth experiences positive radiative forcing, our climate accumulates heat and global temperature rises (not monotonically, of course, internal variability will add noise to the signal).

How much does temperature change for a given radiative forcing? This is determined by the planet's climate sensitivity. The more sensitive our climate, the greater the change in temperature. The most common way of describing climate sensitivity is the change in global temperature if atmospheric CO2 is doubled. What does this mean? The amount of energy absorbed by CO2 can be calculated using line-by-line radiative transfer codes. These results have been experimentally confirmed by satellite and surface measurements. The radiative forcing from a doubling of CO2 is 3.7 Watts per square metre (W/m2) (IPCC AR4 Section 2.3.1).

So when we talk about climate sensitivity to doubled CO2, we're talking about the change in global temperatures from a radiative forcing of 3.7 Wm-2. This forcing doesn't necessarily have to come from CO2. It can come from any factor that causes an energy imbalance.

How much does it warm if CO2 is doubled? If we lived in a climate with no feedbacks, global temperatures would rise 1.2°C (Lorius 1990). However, our climate has feedbacks, both positive and negative. The strongest positive feedback is water vapour. As temperature rises, so too does the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere. However, water vapour is a greenhouse gas which causes more warming which leads to more water vapour and so on. There are also negative feedbacks - more water vapour causes more clouds which can have both a cooling and warming effect.

What is the net feedbackClimate sensitivity can be calculated from empirical observations. One needs to find a period where we have temperature records and measurements of the various forcings that drove the climate change. Once you have the change in temperature and radiative forcingclimate sensitivity can be calculated. Figure 1 shows a summary of the peer-reviewed studies that have determined climate sensitivity from past periods (Knutti & Hegerl 2008).

There have been many estimates of climate sensitivity based on the instrumental record (the past 150 years). Several studies used the observed surface and ocean warming over the twentieth century and an estimate of the radiative forcing. A variety of methods have been employed - simple or intermediate-complexity models, statistical models orenergy balance calculations. Satellite data for the radiation budget have also been analyzed to infer climate sensitivity.

Some recent analyses used the well-observed forcing and response to major volcanic eruptions during the twentieth century. A few studies examined palaeoclimate reconstructions from the past millennium or the period around 12,000 years ago when the planet came out of a global ice age (Last Glacial Maximum).

What can we conclude from this? We have a number of independent studies covering a range of periods, studying different aspects of climate and employing various methods of analysis. They all yield a broadly consistent range of climate sensitivity with a most likely value of 3°C for a doubling of CO2.

The combined evidence indicates that the netfeedback to radiative forcing is significantly positive. There is no credible line of evidence that yields very high or very low climate sensitivity as a best estimate.

CO2 has caused an accumulation of heat in our climate. The radiative forcing from CO2 isknown with high understanding and confirmed by empirical observations. The climate response to this heat build-up is determined by climate sensitivity.

Ironically, when skeptics cite past climate change, they're in fact invoking evidence for strong climate sensitivity and net positive feedback. Higher climate sensitivity means a larger climate response to CO2 forcing. Past climate change actually provides evidence that humans can affect climate now. [source]

 

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 20:25 | Link to Comment butchtrucks
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Dammit man - don't baffle us with facts!  We know that global warming ain't happening 'cause Hannity, Limbaugh and the Koch Bros told us - and that's good enough for me!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Duc888
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"Still waiting for them to play the alien card."

 

Patience grashoppa, patience.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:00 | Link to Comment Froman
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It's no fun being an illegal alien.....

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:55 | Link to Comment Duc888
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Show me a planet in thermal stasis and I'll show you a dead planet.

 

Neptune in August is nice I hear.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:41 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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This one has extremely effective negative feedback loops that keep it's temperature with in a small range. No one would have ever thought of gaming co2 levels; which almost certainly have no measurable effect on global temperature, if it weren't for the UN; who started the whole thing; apparently they got lucky and along with Billions of dollars of govt. and Corp. advertising, hit a "white guilt" button and really dug into the popular psyche. they had to change the name to Climate Change, because it's a non-scientific term; it can't be measured; all climate does is change. On the other hand the global average temperature for August 2013 is exactly the same as Aug.1979; to the limits of measurement. this is not surprising; co02 is a trace gas and has very poor coupling to any kind of green-house effect. Kind of a long story; but it's very well understood at the real centers of meterology that co2 either has no effect at all or one that's so small it's lost in the measurement error. On the other hand, guilt makes a wonderful story for a new grind the workers face in the dirt tax program.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 07:15 | Link to Comment trader1
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It is indeed possible that multidecadal climate variabilityespecially cycles originating in the Atlantic, could be contributing to recent warming, particularly in the Arctic. However, the amplitude of the cycles simply can't explain the observed temperature change. Internal variability has always been superimposed on top of global surface temperature trends, but the magnitude - as well as the fingerprints - of current warming clearly indicates thatanthropogenic greenhouse gases are the dominant factor.

Despite all these lines of evidence, many known climatic cycles are often trumpeted to be the real cause, on the Internet and in the media. Many of these cycles have been debunked on Skeptical Science, and all of them either aren't in the warming phases, don't fit thefingerprints, or both.

For example, we are warming far too fast to be coming out of the last ice age, and the Milankovitch cycles that drive glaciation show that we should be, in fact, very slowly going into a new ice age (but anthropogenic warming is virtually certain to offset that influence).

The "1500-year cycle" that S. Fred Singer attributes warming to is, in fact, a change in distribution of thermal energy between the poles, not a net increase in global temperature, which is what we observe now.

The Little Ice Age following the Medieval Warm Period ended due to a slight increase in solar output (changes in both thermohaline circulation and volcanic activity also contributed), but that increase has since reversed, and global temperature and solar activity are now going in opposite directions. This also explains why the 11-year solar cycle could not be causing global warming.

ENSO (El Nino Southern Oscillation) and PDO (Pacific Decadal Oscillation) help to explain short-term variations, but have no long-term trend, warming or otherwise. Additionally, these cycles simply move thermal energy between the ocean and the atmosphere, and do not change the energy balance of the Earth.

As we can see, "it's just a natural cycle" isn't just a cop-out argument - it's something that scientists have considered, studied, and ruled out long before you and I even knew what global warming was. [source]

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:54 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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How in the hell didn't ZH do a post on this?

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/greek-police-shot-golden-d...

A drive-by shooting killed two members of Greece's Nazi-inspired Golden Dawn party and wounded one outside a party office in Athens on Friday night, officials said.

The two fatalities, both in their 20s, were shot at close range from a motorcycle carrying two men, Golden Dawn lawmaker Georgios Germenis told The Associated Press.

"A man got off a motorcycle wearing a helmet and shot them," he said, adding that the attack was captured on a security camera at the party office in the Athens' Neo Iraklio suburb.

Maybe that's just me but that's exactly how the Mossad carries out assassinations in Iran. Mossad hates ``nazis`` so them killing Golden Dawn folks to bring the state against them when they retaliate against whoever ain't so far fetched.

2nd statement from Golden Dawn blames Public Order Min Nikos Dendias "personally" for murders, claims he didn't provide police protection

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:08 | Link to Comment akarc
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"How in the hell didn't ZH do a post on this?"

God help me for this but, WhyTF would ZH post it? They knew you would. 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:18 | Link to Comment shovelhead
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Makes sense...

With a civil war on one border and another border country trying to secure advanced missiles, Mossad has nothing better to do than to whack some third rate skinheads in Greece.

Greece doesn't even care who whacked these guys. If they turn up Greece might even give them the Honor d' Goat-cheese Medal.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:43 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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Ding-ding. award for rationality.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:59 | Link to Comment loveyajimbo
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Obunga says more Chem trails... dump aluminum, strontium and cesium on the population... as if he didn;t know the American people are already dumb enough... proved it twice in elections... and prove it every day that he is not tarred and feathered.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:58 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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Well, obviously the economy has failed to implode yet from Obamacare. Time to add some nebulous "climate change" legislation to speed up the process. If it saves one child it will be worth spending trillions!

Miffed;-)

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:06 | Link to Comment Being Free
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I missed the "legislation" part of the story.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:51 | Link to Comment knukles
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I missed that ObieCare has yet to be implemented.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:00 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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nothing moar pathetic than a lame duck trying desperately to remain relevant

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:32 | Link to Comment trader1
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Currently, humans are emitting around 29 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide into theatmosphere per year. Around 43% remains in the atmosphere - this is called the 'airborne fraction'. The rest is absorbed by vegetation and the oceans. While there are questions over how much the airborne fraction is increasing, it is clear that the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing dramatically. Current CO2 levels are the highest in 15 million years. [source]

 

In 2012, energy-related carbon emissions in the United States declined 3.8 percent even as global carbon dioxide emissions rose 1.4 percent, according the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA). The recorded 5.29 million metric tons of carbon dioxide amounted to the largest decline since 1994, continuing a downward trend that started in 2007. EIA attributed last year’s decrease to several factors, including a mild winter and alterations in energy consumption for transportation. Notably, U.S. power plants reduced their carbon emissions by 10 percent between 2010 and 2012. The overall energy-related emissions decline occurred in tandem with an increase in gross domestic product and energy output (subscription).

The downward trend may not last, The Washington Post reports. Energy-related emissions rose 2.6 percent in the first part of 2013, and the EIA expects emissions to keep rising.  [source]


Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:48 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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Every number in your post is propaganda. Really. if you put ten thousand BB's in a little flat box, so they more or less covered the bottom, and then added 4 white BB's; you'd have a nice representation of what 400ppm of Co2 molecules would look like; we didn't quite get to 400ppm yet, we're at around 375 or something; but obviously it doesn't matter. this is supposed to effect the re-radiation of solar caused surface layer heating to out space; it doesn't. Period. It just doesn't. The first problem an infrared ray is going to have is finding a goddamm co2 molecule. look at your little box again.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 23:44 | Link to Comment The Burning Planet
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Not sure where you get your data from SAT but the gold standard of CO2 in the atmosphere is the Keeling Curve, which has been tracked by the Mauna Loa Observatory since the early 1960s. I thought you were in error about it being below 400, because I know they reported a +400 measurement back in spring 2013. But I checked and you are right. It is currently at 393 ppm (at the time of this post).

http://co2now.org/current-co2/co2-now/

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 05:31 | Link to Comment trader1
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propaganda?  as opposed to yours?

are you a climate scientist?  

 

by the way, we hit 400ppm last May

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 10:50 | Link to Comment trader1
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my fan club never fails to impress with their display of idiocy, ignorance, and incredulity. ;-)

 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 20:50 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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The result of the CO2 being absorbed by plants is called FOOD. Green Plants live on Co2; literally; their bodies are made out of it. All of our food comes from this process. I'm sorry; but it's all one hundred percent scam; nothing else; just scam, scam, scam all the way to the bottom.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:00 | Link to Comment emersonreturn
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 fukushima is going to impact the west coast, and eventually east coast, way more than stormy weather.  

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 17:59 | Link to Comment Took Red Pill
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George Carlin on saving the planet;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment new game
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thanks-great lol-thanks...

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 23:51 | Link to Comment The Burning Planet
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It is true. Much as I hate to admit it. The planet is not in any danger. WE ARE. We are the ones who are going away. Take Plutonium 239 which has a half-life of 25,000 years. Multiply that by 10 to get the hazard window of 250,000 years. Seems like a long time but in a geological timeframe it's just a good night's rest for planet Earth. I know this sounds misanthropic and it was meant to sort of. I think the best thing for the planet would be to wipe Homo Sap off the face of it. Sorry.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:01 | Link to Comment FiatFapper
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In the UK, the fuckers are about to build a 200 mile railway (HS2) @ ~£42billion (multiply that by four as initial numbers are always bullshit to appease the masses); it's a ridiculous attempt to negate immediate austerity by building stupid things that no one needs and increasing debt in the long-run to facilitate the insatiable greed of banks, exactly what the cock-suckers did with PFI and building hospitals.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:52 | Link to Comment Seahorse
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'multiply that by four as initial numbers are always bullshit to appease the masses' Agree - remember the scottish parliament building. 

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 18:02 | Link to Comment Smiley
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Took some geology courses in college, one of the first facts they throw at you is the gas volumes and contents of volcanic eruptions.  One single volcanic eruption can release more CO2 than all the fossil fuels ever burned since man discovered fire.  Funny how that little fact never seems to make it into the fear mongering reports the left keep circle jerking each other with.

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