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Pictures From LAX Crime Scene Reveals Shooter Weapon
NBC has just released the following pictures from the scene of the schooting, and it appears that the weapon used is, once again, an AR-15.
Meanwhile, the SWAT team arrives:
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thats loose - http://hedge.ly/1bJSCN3
looks more like a ruger mini 14 to me.....
Roll out the anti-gun nutz.
"Even off-duty enforcement personnel cannot be trusted with guns."
Reichstag event #107.
In fact, it appears to be a Ruger Mini-14 Tactical.
http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14TacticalRifle/specSheets/5846.html
I had a mini 14. Synthetic stock, stainless. Fell out of my boat.
You too?
Everyone talking about the gun, look at the way the SWAT team arrived. LOL, it looks like something from the 1920's or a high school play. Hold on boys!
AR-15's are illegal in California...so much for gun control working and keeping guns out of the bad guys hands.
anyone id any crisis actors at the crime scene from sandy hook or beantown?
Uh o, upon closer inspection, it's counterfit.
The gun isn't important. What medication was he on? Just remember this shooting any time they say only government agents should be armed. It seems to me that one of the main reasons I need to be armed is to protect myself from psychotic government agents!
Seems to me Obama, Feinstein, Reid, et al are encouraging the use of ARs by talking about them all the time. Seriously, we know these nut jobs are most often motivated by publicity. There's no greater publicity than a Presidential press conference.
lightbulb going on above....
love,
fast and furious
Going with Mini-14 in an aftermarket ATI stock. Google image it.
Whatever damn banned firearm it was –
..it just jumped out of the blue by itself into the hands of a sane, law abiding citizen and began shooting at people.
Progressive society with no principles, bad values, ubiquitous medication and its indoctrinated or estranged mal-intended human products has nothing at all to do with the insanity.
Hey Di-Fi – why don’t you get a few big presentation boards and show off pictures of all the over medicated active shooters of the last 20 years?
“it looks like something from the 1920's”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRlZaSWocQk
Sigh...I long for the days when every murder weapon was a MAC10 or an Uzi...it made their job so much easier...lol.
The same act could've been committed with a garden variety shotgun (the kind Joe Biden approves of & that Obama was photographed/photoshopped firing) and there probably would have been more casualties.
Nevertheless, cue the Lame Ass Stream Media and their lame ass "evil black rifles" and "high round clips" (not magazines) comments.
THE TRUTH ABOUT 'ASSAULT RIFLES'
http://www.assaultweapon.info/
Meanwhile somewhere in Virginia.
Psychiatrist: "Look, I'm telling you, we kept up the subliminal messaging 'AR15', 'AR15', 'AR15'. Listen to the tapes before we gave the trigger message!"
MKUltra Lead: Look at the picture then explain to me why the hell it's a Ruger mini14?
Psychiatrist: "Talk to the affirmative action team in recruitment, the subjects they give me to work with are not exactly the sharpest tools in the toolbox"
True the actual Armalite AR-15 or the Colt AR-15 are illegal by name in Cali but any knock offs can be legally owned as long as you only use a ten round mag and install a bullet button on the mag release. The bullet button loophole was almost closed this year but the bill died in committee as a more comprehensive bill that would have outlawed all semi-auto rifles that accepted a removable mag(even rim-fire) was passed. In a surprising moment of clarity Gov Moon Beam Jerry Brown vetoed it.
Sounds kind of miraculous, like he had a dream with ghosts of California present, past, and future that sorta shook him up.
Which makes this inconceivable....also, the picture shows a 30rd GI mag, which is also Illegal in CA and in all ways....inconceivable!
Illegal for peon citizens, not for "law enforcement". This guy considered himself, Federal Law Enforcement. Plus, if you are bat shit crazy shooting up an airport, your last concern is "Is my gun illegal?".
Probly made it hisself with a 3D Printer.
that he bought with bitcoins
Dude probably grabbed it off of the prop table from Diane Fienstein's last press conference.
... dup
Just to clarify (to some extent) the absurdly confusing Kalifornia law regarding "AR-15s..."
Unless they just recently passed some new legislation, "AR-15s" are only illegal in Kalifornia if the particular make/model appears on their ban list....which is shown here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberti-Roos_Assault_Weapons_Control_Act_of_1989
So, you CAN legally possess what is essentially an "AR-15" just as long as it's not shown on that list.
Note how Colts are shown on that list...as are Bushmasters...
However, there are quite a few other manufacturers that make lower receivers (i.e., the "gun" part) which are NOT on that list, and thus legal in CA - such as Noveske, BCM, Daniel Defense, etc...who do not mark their lower receivers as "AR-15s."
Then, assuming you are talking about a lower receiver that is not on the ban list, there are other requirements that must be met to make the firearm Kali legal...like you can only have certain combinations of other features (detachable mag, collapsible stock, pistol grip, etc.).
More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15s_in_California
Regardless of where you stand on the "gun debate," the law is proof positive that the state is run by morons.
Legally build your own gun AR15 AK47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvfEEQT5rCM
For anyone interested...
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/01/21277650-gunman-opens-fire-at-lax-killing-tsa-worker-and-wounding-others?lite
Actually, it looks like it was an "AR-15" of some sort...
It MAY be this version of the S&W MP-15:
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_764994_-1_787653_757785_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y
...which is, or at least can be, a Kali legal rifle...but I doubt there is a bullet button installed on that rifle...and that magazine appears to be a no-no (for Kali) 30 rd mag.
Oh they'll just blame it on the guy going over to Nevada to get it, then bring it back in.
I thought the AR15 was legal in CA if it had the "bullet button" - or was modified so the mag was not quickly able to be replaced.
The lower receiver, the serialised part the ATF considers to be the gun, has to be "off list" too. CA has a list of make/brands that are banned, but there are a number of great quality lowers, and incidentally entire firearms too, that are not on the stupid/evil list. You can also have one without a bullet buton, i.e. with a detachable mag, if you don't have a flash suppressor, collapsible stock, or front or back grips that hang down in too much of a pistol grip fashion. How stupid is that?
I thought the AR15 was legal in CA if it had the "bullet button" - or was modified so the mag was not quickly able to be replaced.
What's a 'Near Virgin'? Is that like 'almost pregnant'?
And 'Virgin America', hah! The Fed popped this cherry a long time ago...
I say BULLSHIT!....All I see is a gun on the floor with it's magazine out and white rag with some red paint on it.......show me some dead people or at the very least a pool of blood on the floor.
Did nobody in a packed terminal get this on video?
I wonder what we're not going to learn about Obamacare's effects on the nation as we're oh-so-coveniently distracted by this.
You could set your watch to this kind of shit these days.
You are quite possibly the stupidest person on the internets today. Along with the 6 people who upvoted you.
Nope moron, you're clearly the winner :P
re: swat team arrival
OSHA would not approve. Serious Violation.
Did any members of the SWAT team have their crotches inspected by the TSA pervs before they proceeded into the airport?
Yeah! And no more than 3 ounces of SHAMPOO or CONDITIONER each for you SWAT pigs -- do you understand? This is an airport, for God's sake! <snicker>
No seatbelts, no blaze orange vests.....
I so wish that the luggage racks or running boards would have failed due to overloading. Their loading up on the side of an SUV just doesn't seem like a practical means getting 'boots on the ground'.
The worst place to be when someone lights up an unarmored vehicle is inside that vehicle.
If you were to make the swat team video black and white and sped it up slightly it would look just like an old Keystone Cops film.
MSNBC reporter, "Shooter used an ARmini-14 made by Ruger, the AR-14 designed to hold up to 100 rounds of high powered military type ammunition in it's clip, back to you Rachel".
"Thanks, Kristin. Is that the AR-14 assault rifle that kills a kid EVERY TIME YOU PULL THE TRIGGER???"
It is capable of spraying dozens of rounds per second, at the children.
"Yes Rachel this is the Hollywood version of the Ruger AR-14 which authorities tell me holds endless rounds of ammunition enabling the shooter to fire for as long as he can pull the trigger. Eyewitnesses said that the shooter just missed a group of children whom had just flown in from Detroit to visit Disneyland. We anticipate that President Obama will say "anyone of those kids from Detriot could have been my child". Back to you Rachel."
I've loved the mini-14 ever since BA Baracus, Faceman, Howlin' Mad Murdock, and Hannibal Smith carried them. My only problem with buying them was...if those Green Berets can't ever hit shit with a mini-14, how in the hell am I going to hit something? It turns out you can hit something with a mini-14...or so I've been told.
And if you like the mini-14 but want something in a larger round, try the mini-30. It's the AK to the mini-14's AR...
The POI changes as the barrel heats up. That's basically the problem with them. Same as an SKS. Not sure if the newer models suffer as badly from that issue.
Well the Mini-14 is sighted in so that it only hits flower pots, planters, and police light bars, with the occasional tail light or gas tank. I wonder if Stephen J Canell had a terracotta fetish.
I loved The A Team because it was so over the top. It was even bigger in Europe especially the UK.
Good video on youtube where they ask Stephen Cannell about that. He said the show was on at 8 pm and kids liked it so he never would show anyone getting hurt or even dying. Only the general died in the last episode. Cannell said they bought footage of a Hughes helicopter (Loach) crashing into the side of a mountain. The guys climb out at the bottom of the canyon in the flaming wreck and dust themselves off. Cannell said they purposely made it camp.
"tell me, rachel, do owners of these weapons hate America or do they merely hate children?"
"Most of these black military assult AR-14 rifles are owned by racist, white middle aged men wanting to kill black children, whom could be President Obama's kids. Rather than waiting to learn more about today's shooter, I will just tell you he is a child killing, racist white male gunowner. If Al Sharpton is in the studio, he can confirm this. Back to you Rachel."
"This just in, apparently this model possesses a feature allowing the gunman to continue pulling the trigger even after being killed by law enforcement agents thus providing for ample opportunity to kill children. Now back to you."
"Yes, I have heard of these self shooting black military assault AR-14 rifles. They are designed to keep shooting even if no racist, white middle aged man is holding it. I would like to ask the gun manufacturers where does it say in their beloved US Constitution that a gun can keep shooting children after a racist, white middle aged man has dropped his AR-14 killing machine?"
+223 green tip zombie children killin' votes to ALL you BitChez in this hilarious exchange!
I'll need a new keyboard but it was worth it... ZH at its best.
Back to Ebay... AR actually stands for 'Another Receipt' :)
100 rounds? who needs 100 rounds?
"Is that the AR-14 assault rifle that kills a kid EVERY TIME YOU PULL THE TRIGGER???"
Buck, apparently you haven't heard the latest - the new AR-14 actually has kid-seeking bullets for the extra gun-nutty among us.
Mine just found it's way out of the gun safe on it's own and ran down the street slaying puppies and baby bunnies.
What you thinking FOOL, that's the AK-14 assault mini-machine glock you're thinking about, not to be confused with the Bushmaster AR-47, assault rifle mini-gun Model 1911. The trained eye can tell the difference 'cause one blacker than the other and the proven fact they where designed by the NRA to shoot children, bunnies, baby pandas and gerbels. Like the one Jesse Ventura used in Predator, that even a kid can buy in Texas, don't ya know.
The shooter, identified as CIA-n-CIA, may have ties to the Assad regiem in Syria. John McLame (D,AZ) said, "Now this Assad lead attack at LAX and the shooting of a US government agent, how far does this have to go before we can bomb the shit out of Syria? Enough is enough, we have a pipeline to build."
"Rachel and Al, this just in what we thought was a Ruger Hollywood mini AR-14 with unlimited ammo capacity, was in fact, a Dillon Aero Minigun. I repeat, we have been told that CIA-n-CIA may have used a Dillon Minigun in this shooting."
Roll stock Minigun footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_lnq0HYBQE
"As you can see from that footage, middle age, white men kill innocent children with this type of gun which are given away at NRA fundraising dinners."
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"That's correct, Rachel, and it doesn't stop there. The AKR-147 is specifically designed to kill American children, the only ones that really count."
Those SS mini's sure like water. Mine actually jumped over the side by itself.
Cue the A-Team music. Funny as hell when it was on TV. The Mini-14 when the old ones barrel heats up - it "ain't" that accurate. Hannibal usually carried it.
It can't possibly be an assault rifle. They're banned in California, which means they all disappear into thin air, right?
This one was 3D printed.
lol
Yes, sticking to the script.
You can't improve on the classics.
You mean kosher bolshevik event #107.
Nor on-duty ones either!
Something doesn't smell right. First thing I wanna know is what meds was this guy on? Perfect chance for Obama to deflect from real issues and thru DHS, turn the screws a little more.
Looks like a Halloween prop to me.
... anybody in the press who starts this ar15 horseshit should be disemboweled live on public television (PBS) for the perpetration and dissemination of propaganda...
Now, that would get some ratings!
Think Pay-per-view!
ALWAYS AN AR PLATFORM. #1 THROWDOWN WEAPON OF CHOICE.
IN THE 70'S THEY THREW DOWN HANDGUNS, TODAY, THE COPS THROWDOWN AR PLATFORM WEAPONS.
SEE HOW THAT WORKS???
LOOK HOW NEATLY THE ROUND IS SITTING NEXT TO THE MAGAZINE, WHICH IS NOT ATTACHED TO THE RECEIVER.
MOLON LABE, MOTHERFUCKERS.
The officer probably ejected the magazine and the round from the chamber and then laid the weapon down next to them.
Impossible. AR-15's were banned in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia in 1989. So it has to be something else. Otherwise that person was breaking the law before they broke the law again.
Breaking the law should be illegal.
"Law Enforcement Zone: Triple Fines"
By name, yes, but in reality, no:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15s_in_California
http://www.slickguns.com/california-guns
I agree with a post above, it's probably an AR holder walked over the line to drug lords to destroy our gun rights.
The officer probably ejected the magazine and the round from the chamber and then laid the weapon down next to them.
Isn't that an unfounded assumption. Is there a video of the cop doing that? Is that "standard procedure" to set -up the "evidence" like that?
It's common sense to unload the rifle and make it safe. Can't blame that one on the cops.
it's safe just sitting there. loaded. to me that's the problem, this line of thinking that a gun is somehow inherently dangerous.
Do you walk down range with your rifle loaded and pointed at you? I don't.
A responding officer, not the perp.
have you ever seen how far a mini-14 will sling a round when ejected?
It's easy to prove that the AR-15 rifle was the weapon used in the attack, all they have to do is ask the gunma...oops, nevermind.
Civilian AR-15s jam constantly and are a bitch to clear. This is why they eventually get thrown down in disgust.
No they don't. Maybe some cheap Bushmaster being fed WOLF .223, but not any quality variant.
Hey not all of us can afford a Colt.
AR Snob.
I replaced my Bushmaster with a Colt LE6920 because it would short stroke on Wolf.
If you're going to cycle the good ammo, you really should consider Palmetto. They have FN barrels. I got rid of the Colt after getting a Palmetto, and I picked up a couple hundred bucks in trading out...
PSA has wilson combat and FN made barrels, if it's hammer forged it's FN, stainless = WC
there are plenty of reliable manufacturers that aren't colt.
I only trust Colt, Noveske, and LMT. I have a RRA I built and never shot. I don't care about the rifle price too much, I care more about ammunition costs.
Any semi-auto rifle designed for 5.56 will jam on .223.
.223 simply doesn't produce enough force to cycle the action reliably, turning your semi-auto into a straight-pull bolt-action rifle.
So replace the recoil spring with a lower spring rate?
Mini-14s have always been able to shoot either .223 or 5.56 NATO.
That is simply not true. Try PMC 223A. I've put thousands of rounds through a 5.56 Bushy and have not had a jam either on the range or in the field. In some cases the muzzle velocity exceeds 3200FPS. That is plenty of energy.
http://pmcammo.com/wp/ammo/rifle/bronze-line-rifle/
Um, yeah, the 5.56 is a more powerful round, but the .223 round produces plenty of velocity, more than enough to cycle the AR-15. I suppose if your gas port was extremely dirty you might have a problem. I have fired plenty of .223 in mine with no problems whatsoever.
HOWEVER. You aren't supposed to shoot 5.56 in a .223 gun, the .223 is built to tighter tolerances and you can get cases sticking in the chamber.
Lies. Damned lies. This is why I never believe anything anyone says. Where could you possibly have heard this B.S.? And you aren't the first person I've heard say this nonsense. Please tell me if you learned this through hearsay or if there is some 'official' source that disseminates this misinfo.
Force and total energy of cartridges is comparable.
See data: (sorry. shit copy/paste. see wikipedia)
5.56 NATO:
Ballistic performance Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy 4 g (62 gr) SS109 FMJBT 940 m/s (3,100 ft/s) 1,767 J (1,303 ft·lbf) 4.1 g (63 gr) DM11 FMJBT 936 m/s (3,070 ft/s) 1,796 J (1,325 ft·lbf) 4.1 g (63 gr) GP 90 FMJBT 905 m/s (2,970 ft/s) 1,679 J (1,238 ft·lbf).223 Remington:
Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy 36 gr (2 g) JHP 3,750 ft/s (1,140 m/s) 1,124 ft·lbf (1,524 J) 55 (3.5 g) Nosler ballistic tip 3,240 ft/s (990 m/s) 1,282 ft·lbf (1,738 J) 60 (3.9 g) Nosler partition 3,160 ft/s (960 m/s) 1,330 ft·lbf (1,800 J) 69 (4.48 g) BTHP 2,950 ft/s (900 m/s) 1,333 ft·lbf (1,807 J) 77 (5 g) BTHP 2,750 ft/s (840 m/s) 1,293 ft·lbf (1,753 J)Quantico Tactical has deals on the S&W M&P 15's
Which is why people saying semi-automatics with big mags are dangerous are retards. Bigger mag, bigger chance of jams. If you know how to handle a regular 9mm pistol, you can shoot just as fast with less chances of jams.
Out of bound and very wrong besides. Go find a bitcoin post to troll.
LOL! I think most people hear missed the sarcasm.
@ XenoFrog
Non-expert Bearing bought a quality Russian-American Saiga semi-auto AK-47 in 7.62. I have fired about 2000 rounds, all types (inc: garbagey & dirty Russian Tula), not even ONE jam.
A friend of mine has an AR, it jammed once at the range to his embarassment, it took a range officer to get the cartridge out.
AKs are made for teenage morons the world over. Perfect for me!
You're an idiot.
Yeah, something about the foreend doesn't look right to me as an AR. But it could also be a lot of aftermarket parts.
Magpul MOE foreend
I have to agree that it looks much more like a Mini 14 then an AR. That being said, they could have laid a browning shotgun down there and people would be blaming it on the AR. FWIW, I love my Mini-14 and my AR.
Just remember. It's not the rifle, it's the pistol grip that's dangerous ...
It's the psycho holding the weapon that's dangerous.
Wait til they dig the belt fed mini gun out of the Patsy's trunk. That's the part I love.
Exactly knukles, synthetic stock version, still .223 caliber but better than the AR-15.
They will focus on the weapon, not the inhuman being.
Mini-14 also comes in 7.62x39 SOVIET as I recall. Not so sure it's better than an AR platform but....
Not to nitpick, but that would be a mini 30. Mini 14 is a 5.56/223 rifle.
Gee, now that you mention it... I could almost agree it's a Mini-14 Tactical.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ruger+mini+14+tactical&client=firefox-a&...
it just doesn't have the right look for an AR platform
And it's definitely a Mini-14 if it's chambered 7.62x39 SOVIET (NOT Russian!!) Just being picky about it
BTW: Mini-14s were a big favorite of police departments some years back ... Hmmmmmm...
Yeah, can't be an AR cause here's what they really look like:
http://americandigest.org/ar15acces.jpg
It's not a Mini-14. It's an AR with the Magpul handguard on it. The angle makes the magwell look like it's not there. But it's an AR.
yeah, the mini 14 has a gas block at the front that looks like this. I'm thinkin' a tacticool Mini 14 too.
In the earlier pics I thought it might be a Hi-Point carbine but that mag' in these images looks 5.56-ish
I had a Hi-Point in .45 acp. That fell out of my boat too. Strangely enough at the same time my Springfield Range Officer.
If you like something in 45ACP, try Auto Ordnance's Tommy gun. You pull that thing out of a violin case, and everyone at the range stops and salivates. Violin case is a misnomer, as it looks like it would take a guitar. But everyone thinks you'll play "Kum-by-yah" and then you go rat a tat tat with one of those things....kick ass!
Except that every one of those Auto Ordnance gun-like things I have ever encountered were jam-o-matic pieces of crap. I don't know why they come with a 50rnd. drum because you can't get through 10 rounds without the thing locking up on you. Total piles of crap. The only thing worse would be a Masterpiece Arms Mac-10 wannabe!
I haven't had that problem with either the drum mags or the stick mags. Maybe it is the ammo you were using...
Damn, some of us have the worst luck hunting fish these days.
Except it's not. It's an AR pattern with a square gas block on it. You can see the fucking delta ring on it.
I'm with you knuk and If I am not mistaken, aren't "assualt weapons" already banned in CA?
You can have them but they have some goofy magazine mechanism that limits the amount of rounds it can carry or makes the magazine harder to detach or something really queer like that.
("not funny - haha, funny queer")
10 round magazines and fixed magazine which requires the use of a "tool" to remove. Normally referred to as a bullet button becasue it has been ruled that using the tip of a bullet counts as a "tool".
This applies to any gun with "evil features". A standard mini 14 with a regular stock would not need a bullet button. But add the pistol grip, adjustable stock, and flash hider and it becomes a much more dangerous weapon, and therefore is considered an "assualt weapon" and requires the bullet button. I have personally heard rumors of several such weapons assault or attempt to assult someone, normally if the owner forgets to leash it or lock it up at night.
looks more like a "throwdown" to me.....
For all we know, the whole event is faked.
Notice how they finally planted a false flag on the west coast. Gotta get the Hollywood libs fired up for all of the upcoming Turn In Your Guns For The Children public service announcements.
This guy has figured out their codes 3-6-9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EdKttc_-kY
Its a poodle shooter. I'd be embarassed to hell if one of these killed me !!!
my first thought, too.
aftermarket furniture on it.
Anders Behring Breivik, right there bra!
Correct.
I'm not makin' out a front sight base/gas block assy for an AR.
mini-30?
Or a mini-30, but yeah, Ruger was my first thought.
Any firearm today is an 'AR-15'....that one in particular looks like a Ruger mini 14 to me though that doesn't matter.
Must....Advance....Agenda....
Very impressive rifle ID skills. I second that.
When I saw it I said "Thats a Ruger Mini 14". I just looked at one the other day. Great rifles!
barrel flex problem reduces accuracy
Wrong on both points.