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US Drones Taliban Leader; His Troops Vow Bloody Revenge; Pakistan Government Furious At America
Having done a bang up job in Syria, where Obama nearly started world war III so Qatar could send its natgas to Europe at a lower price than Gazprom's, while alienating America's legacy allies in the region, Saudi Arabia and Israel, and ensuring its enemies see it even weaker in the international arena following Obama's schooling by Putin, the US president continues to win friends abroad (while spying there, here and everywhere, namely the Pope) with the latest snafu coming from Pakistan, another former ally, where America just droned the leader of the Taliban fighters on Saturday, leaving his body "damaged but recognizable".
In response the Taliban - once upon a time another close ally of the CIA and especially their one time leader, Osama bin Laden - quickly moved to replace him while vowing a wave of revenge suicide bombings: because what the US needed right now is even more potential terrorism. But not before the outraged Pakistani government, insulted that the US continues to take whatever liberties on its territory it chooses, summoned the US ambassador, although not for another instance of NSA spying, but due to America's penchant for delivering not so targeted mass executions around the world by remote control.
The Pakistani government denounced the killing of Hakimullah Mehsud as a U.S. bid to derail planned peace talks and summoned the U.S. ambassador to protest. Some lawmakers demanded the blocking of U.S. supply lines into Afghanistan in retaliation.
"The murder of Hakimullah is the murder of all efforts at peace," said Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar. "Americans said they support our efforts at peace. Is this support?"
Not really, although if Pakistan had read the Xinhua oped from Friday it would know that already.
Mehsud, who had a $5 million U.S. bounty on his head, and three others were killed on Friday in the militant stronghold of Miranshah in northwest Pakistan.
Mehsud's vehicle was hit after he attended a meeting of Taliban leaders, a Pakistani Taliban fighter said, adding that Mehsud's body was "damaged but recognizable". His bodyguard and driver were also killed.
He was secretly buried under cover of darkness in the early hours by a few companions amid fears that his funeral might be attacked by U.S. drones, militants and security sources said.
And here is why the US globocop policy of droning anyone it chooses abroad always backfires.
"Every drop of Hakimullah's blood will turn into a suicide bomber," said Azam Tariq, a Pakistani Taliban spokesman. "America and their friends shouldn't be happy because we will take revenge for our martyr's blood."
Maybe not America, but its leaders who thrive on a culture of constant fear from "terrorism", even when it is openly provoked, should. Especially when the target is Al Qaeda which is a strategic friend in some cases (Syria), and the worst foe when a Bogeyman is needed:
Mehsud took over as leader of the al Qaeda-linked Pakistani Taliban in 2009. The group's two previous leaders were killed in attacks by U.S. missile-firing drones. Taliban commanders said they wanted to replace him with the movement's number two, Khan Said, who is also known as Sajna.
Said is believed to have masterminded an attack on a jail in northwest Pakistan that freed nearly 400 prisoners in 2012 and a big attack on a Pakistani naval base.
But some commanders were unhappy with the choice and wanted more talks, several militants said, indicating divisions within the Pakistani Taliban, an umbrella group of factions allied with the Afghan Taliban and battling the Pakistani state in the hope of imposing Islamist rule.
The Pakistani Taliban killed an army general in September, has beheaded Pakistani soldiers and killed thousands of civilians in suicide bombings. The group also directed a failed attempt to bomb Times Square in New York.
Hopefully all futures attempts to bomb Times Square will likewise be "failed" courtesy of the NSA's undying vigilance.
And since every US action abroad has an immediate reaction, the Pakistani government has already clarified it will make US strategic intervention in the region that much more difficult:
The Pakistani foreign office said in a statement on Saturday Mehsud's death was "counter-productive to Pakistan's efforts to bring peace and stability to Pakistan and the region".
Shah Farman, a spokesman for the government of the northwestern province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, said provincial lawmakers would pass a resolution on Monday to cut NATO supply lines into landlocked Afghanistan. A major one passes through the nearby Khyber Pass.
The supply lines through U.S. ally Pakistan have been crucial since the latest Afghan war began in 2001 and remain vital as the United States and other Western forces prepare to withdraw from Afghanistan by the end of next year.
Finally, for those wondering just how big the US drone presence in the region is, the answer is: very.
Residents of Miranshah, the capital of the North Waziristan region on the Afghan border, said Pakistani Taliban fighters were converging on the town and firing furiously at drones buzzing high in the sky.
About eight drones were seen overhead as well as a larger aircraft that seemed to be an aeroplane or a type of drone that residents said they had not seen before.
"We thought it was a C-130 aircraft but it was a special spy plane, bigger in size," resident Farhad Khan said by telephone from Miranshah. "The militants fired from their anti-aircraft guns to hit it but couldn't."
The good news: for now the US is focusing its droning powers abroad. Hopefully that, too, doesn't change any time soon.
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So now the war's over, right? Nevermind.
the government of Pakistan is an enabler
their rhetoric is just that
fear not the Drones in North Waziristan
rather fear the ones in Riverside County
Can't have peace meetings
Do they still hate us because of our freedoms?
If so, can someone please let them know, there aren't (m)any left in the USA?
Such propaganda, right? "They hate us for our freedom" - it's actually kind of genius. Both obfuscation and rah rah propaganda in six little words, repeated millions if times.
They are the best. They spend more time thinking about your life than you do.
Pakistan being upset about us droning their citizens is like the UK or France being appalled that we spy on them.
Just throw some more "foreign aid" their way and they'll forget the whole thing happened.
Like they have been doing for the last fucking decade.
I do not care for drones..
except when they kill evil like all Taliban.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ee4_1311707376
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/scottishnews/4585007/Shooting-is-lesson-on-evil-of-Taliban.html
http://www.paktribune.com/news/print.php?id=212256
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS461US549&q=taliban+executes+woman
http://nypost.com/2013/10/10/teenage-activist-shot-by-taliban-to-speak-at-92nd-street-y/
..search "Taliban evil execute kill"- it will take forever to view all the links.
Well Brother, then you can always become a Pakistani citizen and get a law degree there. Round up the perps, try them and by all means drone them 6 ways to Mecca, if found guilty.
World Cop good guy facade is beyond blown. It's not our fucking beeswax.
I did not advocate for it, but I cannot condemn even charlatans and fools when they take the opportunity to ram a shiv up the butt of pure evil.
The debate on the relative purity of evil involved on either side of this would probably take a forum of its own, but I get where you are coming from.
It's the pot and kettle thing I can no longer stomach.
Hmm.. maybe the metallurgical fineness of the pot versus the kettle is of less consideration when:
· The flame under both is turned up to maximum.
· The water (or oil) in both vessels is coming to a boil.
· You need to determine which container holds good stuff and which container holds evil.
There is no compromise with cults and political movements who’s most revered and sacred prophet conducted wars of conquest, owned slaves, had many wives, executed and beheaded thousands and admittedly screwed at least one nine- year-old child.
And I will not abide with that “it was appropriate for the place and time” argument because it is the same as justifying cannibalism in primitive and remote societies.
Try seeing that from the perspective of the aboriginal being boiled in the kettle.
Evil is evil – remote and near, in the past and in the present.
It would be nice if we could just ignore that kind of horrible evil and keep to our own affairs, but this disease of human character is parasitic and always looks for new hosts to invade and infect.
Let's see. Imagine the Government of Mexico decided to use drones on El Paso to take out criminal Drug Barons who were hiding out there. The Mexican Government promises to minimise "Collateral damage" of course, but innocent civilians, including women and children, are killed.
Now, quite apart from the soveriegnty issue, how do you suppose the people in El Paso, Texas and The US might feel about Mexico? Would that, in any way, shape their opinion of Mexico and Mexicans?
Now, back to drones in Pakistan.........Or are we back to "American exceptionalism" again?
In the States it was portrayed as a big favor to the Pakistanies.
Gonna blame this country's bankruptcy on Mr. Patriot Act.
So now Israel is a "legacy ally?"
What an incredibly polite way of saying the Jews run everything in America.
The Bush family, Hank Paulson and the merry crew of the last regime highly encourage that point of view. So do big oil, big pharma and the insurance or military industries. Yes, yes... it's all the jews. And please don't pay attention to the environmental disasters our oil companies are creating in the Gulf, the midwest and in Alaska. That is not, I repeat "not" where we want you to focus your attention. Nor do we want you to focus your attention on the incredible amounts of money being shit-shoveled into defense. I mean... if you do notice the money.. please immediately refocus on Israel. Nobody here is getting rich on war ... no sir. It's all for the jews. And as for the largest lobby in Washington -- big Pharma. Please note, none of us pharmaceutical mega companies has an ounce of self interest. It's for the jews I tell ya. After all they're the doctors. You know doctors make drugs right? They make us bend you over the table and take your money. Yeah yeah.. Washington may be overflowing with slimy special interest money but please look over there. We would really rather you focus on the jews. It's better for everyone that way. You get your pet cultural loathing, and we get our money. Oil. Drugs. Bombs. Prisons. Cars. Personal data. Etc. Etc. It's a clusterfuck of epic proportions and it's filled with thousands of elites, each with their hands in the pockets of two-bit politicians. But the second the plebs start to realize that they're trapped in a web of special interests stacked on top of special interests, we're gonna have a real big problem on our hands. So once again, please accept this blue pill: It's the jews. It's always been the jews. It's easier that way.
The Jews own essentially all of the mass media, the banking system, the Fed, and the Government. Those who strongly identify with the Tribe are less than one percent of the population. So much for diversity. If tribalism is good for some, it's good for all, and we know where that leads.
"The issue isn't Pussy, the issue is Monkey"
The Permanent Squeeze in Gold
http://twoshortplanksunplugged.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/the-permanent-squeeze.html
"They are the best. They spend more time thinking about your life than you do."
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
And you believe that jews are all on the same team. Liberal jews, Right wing jews, Communist jews, Neocon jews, Anarchic jews, Gold-bug jews, ZH contributor jews, they're all JOOOOOS. Right? What a wonderfully simple, deliciously tempting view of the planet. Take all that complexity and just distill it down to a simple story. Btw.. I'm typing on my phone in a crappy little diner on the side of the road. The owner is wearing a yamulka (I probably spelled that wrong). Should I ask him where the "world domination meeting" is? I mean, you just know he's really a biliionaire, media magnate, banker in disguise. Right?
Ask him about his affinity to Jews vs other creeds.
While you are at it, ask any nigger why 95/100 of them voted for Obuttfuck and how that ain't raciss.
Fucking clueless wanker.
Well how's your affinity to other creeds vs. your own? Oh wait, you just answered that. LOL.
Bogus example, philipat. If we allowed(and protected) criminal drug barons in El Paso to raid into Mexico indiscriminantly, our law forces were 100% unreliable and corrupt/bot off, did nothing to stop the cross-border tresspass, then yes, Mexico in my opinion, would have the right to drone them.
Thankfully, the above is not a valid scenario and Mexico has no "right" nor need to drone us.
You pretty much kill your own quote.
If we allowed(and protected) criminal drug barons in El Paso to raid into Mexico indiscriminantly, our law forces were 100% unreliable and corrupt/bot off, did nothing to stop the cross-border tresspass, then yes, Mexico in my opinion, would have the right to drone them.
Many of the things you mention are true - the biggest criminal gang on earth runs the US and protects drug barons, such as HSBC etc. does little to prevent cross border tresspass and law enforcement is hardly short on corruption.
Difference is, the US is the big bully in the playground and there's nobody ready, yet, to stand up to it.
There is NO RIGHT to drone, PERIOD.
war is a racket
we've always been at war with eurasia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
sigh
so now drone are a god blessed weapon ? the arm of god ?
whoah ... another defeat for humanity
we will see, with time, in the future, who are the evilest at the moment, not sure it will be the pakistan, I can even bet that USA are going to be what was Germany for the 20th century, a new reference to define "evil"
Then, Prepare your ass......cuz if it is evil that need fear the shiv up the backside, then the USA is heading for a serious ass raping.
The only good Taliban is a dead Taliban. Somebody should tell those bleeding heart wimps in Pakistan that it didn't work for Neville Chamberlain either.
At least they pretty much wiped out all the poppy crops. Fast forward to today and the US is protecting the Poppy fields - each year recording more and more yield.
I don't advocate any religious bullshit because that's all it is - bullshit. But you seem to be worried about a few people that the Taliban knocks off yet it's ok for the US to drone the fuck out of hundred or thousands of inocent civillians in the name of 'getting the bad guy' Sigh!
Now put together what you just said, under the US [NATO] poppy production through the roof after the Taliban almost wiped it out, and what is going on in my state, Kentucky. They have cracked down on the "mobile meth labs" i.e. somebody with a milk jug in the truck of the car making their own drugs, the old folks connection - huge bust of individual old people who sold their pain mediations to young people who want to get high, and crack down on pain medications at the doctor, can't get anything for pain any more - my lower back went out a few months ago, trip to the doctor resulted in a "shot" of basically asprin and some fancy aspirn to follow it - did absolutly zero pain relief.
Great job, Law Enforcement. Now we have a heroin epidempic in Kentucky. Seems they drove the drug users to the product they want them to use by drying up all other options.
The heroin epidemic started with the prescription med epidemic. Now that the problem has been recongnized it's made heroin cheaper and finally the drug of choice. It's not that they don't want you to do drugs, they want you to do their drugs.
Opiate overdose now the leading cause of death age group 18-24, surpassing accidents. Why would opiates be far more available than marijuana with no lethal dose and no increase in violence or accidents (unlike legal alcohol). Yet marijuana is scheduled in the same class as opiates. Porqui? They want to ruin a generation.
Read some history, please.
Don't just spout the standard story.
Hitler wasn't very interested in war with Britain, but Churchill, being a warmongering, self-interested madman, relished the idea and was determined from the very beginning to drag America in.
just a reminder : pakistan does have nuclear weapons
In the latest insider book, obama tells his aides he's good at killing.
Is there any doubt this motherfucker was inserted into the WH by the military/industrial/bankster complex?
The show must go on.
Coming soon to a theatre near you...
When the collateral damage of the State's actions strikes American families and neighbors, do you really think the erstwhile docile sheeple will have a different reaction...
And amongst the apparently docile sheeple are those who, for better or worse, have executed the most brutal atrocities of the American MIC over the past decade.
Well done Mr. President! Another terrorist gone, keep up the good work.
To some, obese rednecks are the real terrorists. Just sayin'.
Yep, wait'll they start lighting up the Walmarts on SNAP card day.
PS Tyler - please delete that Modern Maternity sidebar ad
They make a mean BBQ prok, son. Besides killing themsleves by intake, how are obese rednecks terrorists? Oh, don't bother with anymore oral diarrhea
Really? Did Obama just bomb his own administration?
How is it the US feels it can constantly bomb a sovereign country? How does the US believe that it is there right to murder whoever they want in whatever country they want? Hundreds of innocent people have been murdered in Pakistan over the years from drone bombings. Pakistan has demanded the US stop over and over and the US ignores them.
Imagine if another country constantly drone bombed inside the US.... we would be at war in a matter of seconds.
The media in the US fails to mention what the US does to other countries to where we are hated. They only broadcast 'terrorism' against the US due to our Freedoms. How about the truth... they hate the US due to the US ignoring their freedoms and murdering/bombing their countries all the time.
heres how we get to do this...do you know who we are?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-9FsOIMMg4
We've always been at war with Eastasia.
So you would position Pakistan as adjacent to Korea, or elsewhere in Eastern Asia? Might be a useful excuse?
My point, simply, being that Pakistan is nowehere near EASTASIA!!!! Somewhere between South Asia and The Middle East would be a more accurate description of its location aactually. Feel free to make down votes for all the geographically challenged readers, mostly from The US.
It's a quote from 1984 about a fictional nation state, for the literacy-challenged.
ENGLISH literature actually, and in such a singular comment, context would have been appropriate, no? In a discussion about droning Pakistan, a comment, totally out of context, about always being at war with East Asia is totally out of context.
Ah, justification for your lack of literary prowess. Carry on.
Geography aside, there is no functioning government in much of Pakistan.
That's most of the problem, so who is speaking for this nonentity of a government?
Does Pakistan have spineless excuses for life searching elderly diapers and putting hands down kids pants looking for ghosts? That's just the TSA "safety" racket.
Pakistan is better without one bullshit organization, let alone corrupt Fascist government, bought and installed. Without the US dropping shit on them, most would take Pakistan.
Dear omnipotent one. Sorry, it is true. I don't remember every single line of all the books I read. I'm sure you do.
Wow a tap dancing moron.
The fact that we can operate drones anywhere in the world and no one kicks us out of their country says it all
"So now the war's over, right?" -- LTER
Forget blowback. Project Blowforward on schedule, sir.
mission re-accomplished
On the Taliban Fast Track promotion is pretty good.
put this in my comment further down .... but since i went to the trouble of finding it, let's put it up front where it belongs- pakistan/drone documentry streaming free starting yesterday. pass it along
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36704.htm
Wonder if some advanced Russian AA missiles will somehow show up in Pakistan?
Fuck yeah!
Message to Islamoterrorists: "Don't fuck with Barry Choomboi, motherfuckers, cause he is a bad ass nigga who will drone your Muslim fucking ass before you can say "Mohammed". Fucking camel fuckers.
I read they coat every drone missile nosecone with the blood of a suckling pig!
HA HA dirty Muslim, no virgin for you! Barry got you on a technicality!
Did he really need a sarc tag for that?
rafterman
That made me chuckle. Gallows humor. Cheers. Quick, duck! Incoming outrage from medievalists or the PC brigade.
Bill Gross says no drone taper till 2016 when things improve.....sorry Kerry
The Taliban crushed the poppy field trade in Af/Pak. Western corporatists want the opium fields, and heroin trade under their control. Cue: the obscenity of Western military being ordered to protect the poppy fields; do not damage them.
Corporatists dislike any competition or disruption in their lucrative drug and guns trade. They are monopolists, using the blood and treasure of trusting ordinary people.
Seemples.
Bingo.
At the link below is the poppy production in Afghanistan. Notice the collapse in 2001 and then recall all the 'activity' that went on around that time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Afghanistan_opium_poppy_cultivation_1...
Yup. Had to send in the Harkonans to make the Spice flow again.
OH FUCK YEAH!!
It's Harkonnens BTW
I really love relevant Dune references.
My bad. Been 20+ yrs plus since I read it.
Dude. Re-read it.
The movie sorta "soiled" it for me...but I may.
I hate whole movie remake trend, but this one screams for vengeance.
Oh god, I hear you on the movie/remakes. Just do what I did and forget you ever saw them.
After that movie I swore to never watch another adaptation again.
Fortunately they never made a God Emperor movie...
Let Peter Jackson or Ridley Scott take a crack at it.
David Fincher. Director of Fight Club the movie (adapted from the book).
Fincher and Jackson have both done well with movie adaptations but I think some books just don't translate well no matter who the director is.
really. i mean big worms that are rocket juice with voice honking messiahs on top?
i've always said- there are certain movies i'm glad they made .... so i don't have to read the books:
hobbits and potters. (re: hobbits- sorry guys. i tried 3 times. kinda like "sometimes a great notion" couldn't get past the first 125 pages)
then there are some books i don't wanna read and i don't wanna see the movie: hungry wolves and vampire games.and might as well count the new harrison ford homophobic fan boy and grrl book/movie.
then there's the good movie 'till you think about the book you read-one flew over the cukoo's nest .... until you hear the author and gene hackman were robbed by an intervening broadway play and j.nicholson/m.douglas
then there's good old 'even stephen'- a clockwork orange.
then there's the ones that probably made a better movie than the book so i'm glad they didn't make the rest so i don't have to postiulate endless what if the book was a movie list - the vampire diaries.
now-there you go! can you imagine anything crappier than tom cruise ridin' the spice doin' his best mr.limpet noise?
big worms that are rocket juice with voice honking messiahs on top?
It's pretty obvious that you are either illiterate and therefore didn't read the dune books or are intellectually challenged and didn't understand them.
Either way, I'm so sorry.
"and then there are movies that make glad so i don't have to read the book" regardless of whether "it is a hard book to make into a movie" ... dune? don't wanna read it. thanks. now- "sirens of titan"? there's a movie for ya.
I re-read the entre Dune series once a decade, just to refresh my memory of the lessons Frank taught us. None of the film interpretrations do the series justice except prehaps the SciFi Channel remake a few years ago. The originial film with Kyle MacLachlan was a disaster.
Hat tip to LTER
Oddly enough, I read Fight Club before the movie was made. Still an all time favorite. When I heard Pitt got the roll of Tyler, I was braced for it to completely suck in every way.
They nailed it completely.
The only thing they changed that was a cop out was Marla's post coital line
"I haven't been fucked like that since grad school"
In the book she told Tyler:
"I want to have your abortion"
Not that baby murder is my thing. It just highlighted how sick she was and really jolted me.
They said it wouldn't make it past the censors. Surprising.
"Can you imagine anything crappier than tom cruise ridin' the spice doin' his best mr.limpet noise?
Yes. Tom Cruise cast as a six foot five brick shithouse in Reacher.
That takes some beating as a miscast for anyone that reads Lee Childs...probably only matched by a Kenyan ending up at the White House.
The yank interpretation of The Born Identity did it for me.
Gimme a break - a kid that looks like he's in his 20's in that position?? And now it's the CIA?? The original Pommy film is so much better. A middle aged guy (who by that stage would actually *have* experience) and with MI5. The yanks just have to fuck with everything and try to make it 'cool'
So, those are Air America drones then ?!
The Taliban crushed the poppy field trade in Af/Pak. Western bankers want the opium fields, and heroin trade under their control.
There, fixed it for you
They already have the fixed expense of the teller windows specially made to accept drug baron';s bundles of money. Gotta recoup that expense.
Debt limit? What debt limit? The CIA doesn't need to go through CONgress for those revenues.
"because we will take revenge for our martyr's blood."
And this years Nobel Peace Prize goes to......
Reuters, could you also cover the dronings that resulted in the murder of women and children?
Here's a little research to get you started:
http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/
High impact link....pun intended. Thx for that.
Boom! Dieu reconnaitrera les siens.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36704.htm
More Obamacare missiles.
Hire this man an intern.
I expect to see drones taking out American citizens on American soil in my lifetime.......
I will not bet against that.
And since you expect to 'see it' I suppose you arn't expecting you will be one of the first targets?
The first target will necessarily be during 911 Part Two; where the redneck, cracker, constitution reciting, homeschooling, bible toting, gun running, homophobic loner who won't sign up for Obamcare is taken out via a bakers dozen drones; right after he drops his passport, house keys, manifesto, and a short confession while running from the as yet to be determined crime scene....
Can we get a remake of the naked vietnamese girl running from the napalm, except with that guy?
Err....you first.
They found her and interviewed her s an adult, but I am too lazy to look for a link.
According to the link below, she converted to Christianity, is married and moved to Canada.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc
Sorry, but protocol dictates the (scattered) remains be immediately tossed into the Ocean.........
Don't forget about the protocol of killing off the people who supposedly killed off the guy whose remains were tossed.
P.S. I hear that Osama's passport was recovered from the ocean after the tossing. So we can rest assured it was him.
You've totally gone overboard. /snicker.
Hardly, as it is widely known that bin Laden has been dead since 2002.
I expect to see Americans taking out drones in my lifetime.
Dude. Michael Hastings.
That's what you get when you won't sign on for the good fight and go to Syria with your Freedom Fighter brothers.
I would rathet prefer see this Nobel Price Winner jump in the jungle trees
Now that Obama's president, we can be assured there will be no more bombing of brown people - hey, wait!
black on black crime
Amazing how these 'HIGH LEVEL TERRORIST LEADERS' always wander into the receiving end of a drone missile when things start going politically wrong for the Chicago Messiah...
...leaving his body "damaged but recognizable".
see? there's his head over there and an arm over there and a bit of leg over there, see?
like, totally recognizable...I mean, you can tell that's a body, right?
damned straight, skippy...
AQ Khan gave them the gift of nukes. We give them the reason.....Brilliant!
Which "them"? The U.S. built its first nukes almost 70 years ago, when a goddamned toy oscilloscope or computer of today was science fiction. The cat is out of the bag, bitchez. It's just physics down here in meat space. No magic or mystic stuff. Just math and material.
In theory.
You got tecnicians that can build a concentric explosive charge with all points designed to blow simultaneously with equal explosive pressure? Computers dont actually build the bomb. That was the part that stymied saddam hussein in the 80's before he gave up on it.
The switching speed of cheap, commercially available transistors is plenty adequate to nail that. 1940's. people.
....and AQ Khan was the SCIENTIST who gave them the ability to make their own nukes by taking said knowledge from scientists before him; if you need it spelled out.
"Abdul Qadeer Khan was one of Pakistan's top scientists,[3] and was involved in the country's various scientific programs until his dismissal.[3] In January 2004, Khan was officially summoned for a debriefing on his suspicious activities in other countries after the United States provided evidence to the Pakistan Government, and confessed it a month later.[3] Some have alleged that these activities were sanctioned by the authorities, though the Pakistan government sharply dismissed the claims.[4][5] After years of nominal house arrest, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) on 6 February 2009 declared Abdul Qadeer Khan to be a free citizen of Pakistan, allowing him free movement inside the country. The verdict was rendered by Chief Justice Sardar Muhammad Aslam.[6] In September 2009, expressing concerns over the Islamabad High Court's decision to end all security restrictions on Khan, the United States warned that Khan still remains a "serious proliferation risk".[7]"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan
The part that is easy to believe, is that out of a billion people from muslim countries, only this one guy was smart enough to understand what so many western scientists and engineers had down to a science for decades, stretching deep into the vacuum tube era. Oh, wait. I do not believe that.
He gave this knowledge to NKorea too. They are not Muslim. This is not about the messenger but the message.
That was a deep, back in the McLuhan era. Here's one that a little older: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Also, the north koreans were providing missiles and missile technology. Gotta have a delivery mechanism. Nuke science and rocket science may boil down to physics, but they are two different engineering areas.
Muslims are the worlds biggest fuck ups and underachievers. It's a 1400 year legacy of violence and failure.
So yes. It's easy to believe.
Washington D.C. sucks.
Obama made the US generals homosexualss.
Run.
The really sad part of this unreal exceptionalism of the hubristic puppet race is there are no bounds to the in your face wrongful evil of this kind of out right murder. There is no glory in any kind of warmongering like this. No real combat, just shooting fish in a barrel. This faceless murdering of innocents is the worst kind of warmongering for profit ever created by the babalonians. One has to wonder WHO EXACTLY is profiting from drone manufacture? All this is only really practice for what is coming to America. Coming to a theater near you soon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNGz3ht0oyA
Gosh this is terrible, the USA not fighting fair. Maybe we shoulda done WWII like the Russians did, trading ten of our guys for each German. Oh, wait. That's really really dumb.
The biggest deterrent to American aggression has always been the body bags. Send in troops, bring home body bags, news guys take pictures, American public says 'enough'. Drones have removed the body bags, and with that, any fear.
No body bags and no food lines. They got this streamlined to perfection.
heck, they don't even have to peel their own potato's anymore... and the air conditioning bill was the equivalent of the gdp of haiti for the next cenrury.
more to the point- we're not at war with pakistan. it's a violation of international law. remember cambodia? and they didn't have nukes!
of course, this policy was reviewed in congess a couple of days ago, and five elected officials showed up.
i haven't seen scahill's dirty wars, but this one began free streaming yesterday- http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36704.htm
2nd response to someone back a couple of posts ago....re: "no boddy bags":
this time it's PTSD's ... and suicide.
if they survive functioning- prime canidates for psychopathic domestic droners.
It's a hardball world, son. We've gotta keep our heads until this peace craze blows over.
Question is:
how could they not have expected a drone strike?
Question is:
How can we not expect payback?
Hmmm, durka durka muhammed jihad
If you wanted to provoke a bunch of violent, bloodthirsty religious lunatics in the worst way possible, drone strikes seem like just the ticket.
More effective than pig grease aerosol attacks ? What about Koran pissings? Obscure youtube vids implying Islam isn't all that great, or Muhammed was disgusting, pathetic figure?
precisely, and that solves the problem of Johnny taking up arms against his neighbors
instead it will be some twisted geek in a warehouse bunker outside of Austin
The ultimate Pogue War.
I like it just fine where I am, joker. In the rear with the gear.
Ah, no, not "always". WWII and the Civil War were not like that.
A man will knowingly die for a cause in battle. Only a fool dies for money. An oath to kith and kin is inviolable. So there's the difference you are alluding to, I guess.
Our troops are being horribly betrayed by the cynical politicians and the money men. And the troops know this. Tick, tock...
Maybe not America, but its leaders who thrive on a culture of constant fear from "terrorism",
I'm hoping the world understands that Americans realize Washington D.C. is as much of a threat to us as it is to them.
World, we are trying to do something about the situation and wouldn't mind some help at this point.
Until the tribe tells us to stop, it aint gonna happen. Let the world know that too.
And by the way, I hope the West's biggest creditor - China - reaps its revenge eventually for the original Opium Wars waged by the West in their lands:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/430163/Opium-Wars
What sweet revenge it would be for China to diversify out of failing fiat and buy Afghanistan. Then make the Western junkie go cold turkey. Cut off heroin suppy to the West, except for registered pharmaceutical sales.
To really make the irony it's most pure, they'd need to not cut it off, but take it over and distribute it to US and UK in earnest.
...via owning the pharmaceutical companies, for example.
The USA has knocked off half a million russian males since 2002 with high quality heroin, and an unknown number of females who didnt die from heroin but caught aids.
Everything going to plan.
I can tell you they are certainly equal opportunity at Air America...same as it ever was.
Smack is edging out meth from NO straight up to Chicago.
I have a friend who is Narcotics in Indy. Says it came in out of nowhere and came in big....and pure.
I found a fully loaded syringe out in front of my house on the sidewalk in downtown Indy this summer. My crib is definitely not in the hood...so it was a shock.
Taxpayer funding both sides of the drug war.
Same as it ever was.
Not out of nowhere - first they knocked out the legal pharma angle by busting the old folks selling pain meds, busting pain clinics for giving out pain meds busting the whole legal pain killer industry. Then the heroin steps in and "wow, where did this come from" ha ha. All planned.
Nothing to do with 7 decades of astheistic communism. America did that to them. And the vodka too. More CIA/Rothschild/Halliburton shit. And the Illooneynaughties.