Armored Gunman Loose In New Jersey Mall; Shots Fired, Injuries Reported - Live Stream

Tyler Durden's picture

Shots were fired Monday night at the 2.1 million square feet Garden State Plaza mall in Paramus, New Jersey, according to several reports. Local TV network PIX11 reports, "according to a police source:

  • the shooting began near the Nordstrom’s department store on the second level of the mall
  • At least eight shots have been fired;
  • The gunman is believed to be wearing body armor;
  • Stores are on lockdown;
  • Over 200 police units and SWAT team are on the scene;

Finally, several hours after it started, the situation ends with the suspected gunman allegedly shooting himself.



CNN Reports,

Eddie Kahmann, who works inside the mall, told CNN he heard 6-7 gunshots around 9:20 p.m. ET. "There was just people running like crazy so I quickly just closed my doors, ran to the back, turned off all the lights, music and everything, just to stay hidden," he said.


Kahmann spoke from inside the mall, one of the largest shopping centers in the New York City area.


Ally Kozic, another mall employee, said she saw "someone dressed in all black, carrying a large gun walk past our store."








NBC New York reports,

Witnesses told NBC 4 New York a man dressed in all black, including a black helmet, was carrying a rifle and started firing shots inside the mall.


It wasn't immediately clear if anyone was hit.


"He was fully armored head to toe, like he planned this. Like it's not like a random thing," said a male shopper who did not want to give his name.


Clarice Forbes, who works at the Talbots store, said the alleged gunman fired his rifle as he walked through the mall.


"When he walked past our store, he looked directly in the store and strolled past," she said. "It was very, very terrifying."


Forbes said the gunman continued to walk toward Nordstrom and "you could still hear the gunshots going off in the air."


"There were so many thought going through my head. I was so scared."





First images from inside (via @kathrynlopez)








Live Coverage via MyFoxNY (click the following image:


And a second live webcast via News 12 NJ:

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Terminus C's picture

Ties in well with the theivery epidemic article...

JohnnyBriefcase's picture

Do these incedents EVER happen where people can carry either concealed or open?!

12ToothAssassin's picture

Are you SURE this isnt the Westgate mall in NJ??

12ToothAssassin's picture

I heard there is already predictive programming for this...

LetThemEatRand's picture


MSNBC:  "Assualt rifle used at mall...."

Fox News:  "Homeland security reviewing security procedures at mall."

Whitehouse:  "Ah, and, ah.  Guns are bad."



rfaze's picture

I have notice that these shootings are occuring in ever state my conceal carry permit is not accepted.

markmotive's picture

I guess it's Monday again...

FEDbuster's picture

Our local mall has more employees than customers most days, a shooter would be hard pressed to find a victim to target. 

Rather than go on and on about the guns these psychos use, could we get some information on the psychotropic meds they are on? 

tsx500's picture

Uh, no we can't . That kinda information wouldn't be useful in furthering he 'agenda'. Forward ! ;>)

Freddie's picture

People still go to malls?   Well it is Paramus not far from ponzi and fiat NYC. NE NJ is still fed by NYC plus NJ probably has 5 govt employees per 10 residents.

StormShadow's picture

I am so disappointed that not one of the witnesses mentioned grabbing scissors for defense. Don't they know this simple tactic from their govt training video? /sarc

akak's picture

Expect to see TSA-style checkpoints with body scanners at all malls and movie theaters in 5, 4, 3, 2, ....


For the children!

MisterMousePotato's picture

Dammit. My REIT was just almost back to break even, and now this. Why do *I* always have all the bad luck!?!

BlackChicken's picture

Hey Akak.

Bet you're glad to live in a state where you can carry huh?

How long do you think this clown would have lasted here?

akak's picture

Probably not too long!

It still amazes me that ANYONE in this state would try to rob a home, never knowing if the occupant(s) was actually out of the house or not.  Like that young idiot in South Anchorage recently, walking into people's homes in the early morning through unlocked doors --- anyone trying THAT in my neighborhood would just be committing a rather messy suicide.

jaap's picture

Gladio stay behind USA

Geruda's picture

kaka, it's a fact that very few trailer parks are targeted by house burglars so you are in little danger, except maybe if you come home early someday and catch a frightened pizza delivery boy in your boyfriend's haypile.

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

Wow, the endless stream of witticisms pouring out of you is certainly breathtaking. I certainly am learning from your example how to post things more worth while. Your Potty jokes and personal attacks are so impressive but I'm not sure if I can ever achieve your level of sophistication.


akak's picture

I could take the low road and respond to him in kind, but such a response would be more ad helminthem than ad hominem.

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

Sigh...yes. As one who has experience working with such organisms let me attest to their slippery amorphous characteristics. No matter how sharp the scalpel or determination and tenacity of it's wielder, the subject is difficult to penetrate. I have often stared at one in frustration wishing it had a backbone. But I guess their preferred life dwelling in feces and drawing subsistence from others would be too difficult.


akak's picture


your boyfriend's haypile

Is that one of your Obamessiah's euphemistic term for all the taxpayer largesse collected in Washington DC by the IRS?

Four chan's picture

its a civic duty to end these terrorists.

MisterMousePotato's picture

Holy crap. What are those?!? Is there something wrong with that woman?

Flagit's picture

Expect to see TSA-style checkpoints with body scanners at all malls and movie theaters in 5, 4, 3, 2, ....

ARMED checkpoints.

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

That would certainly help boost Christmas sales for the sheeple. They would feel safe. Me on the other hand would prefer sporting my XD40 and would not be welcome. Thank god for them I'm in the minority.


Chief Kessler's picture

To all the wanna be chief Kesslers out there.  This is north Jersey, THE most densely populated part of the country. You can't drive 3 minutes without seeing the police or hearing a siren.  There are more off duty cops, judges, and lawyers walking around with carry permits than you can shake an AR15 at.  Not to mention recently returned vets, martial artists, wanna be heroes and mafioso to name a few. Oh and mall security as well.  Not enough guns for you yet? It's the access to guns, you friggin wackos.

nmewn's picture

So, you're saying joisey has a bunch of cowardly metrosexuals running around who use the gun as a fashion accessory, instead of its true purpose?

Abaco's picture

"cops, judges, and lawyers walking around with carry permits" - What do you expect when you arm the sociopaths?

JohnG's picture



That's why it is UNPOSSIBLE.

NJ has some of the most restrictive gun laws, therefore this person CANNOT have a gun.

Manthong's picture

It’s just a darn good thing that none of the sane, law abiding people there are carrying any firearms to defend themselves with.

That would constitute a danger to themselves and the other defenseless free citizens there.

SilverIsKing's picture

It was reported that earlier in the day, vandals removed all of the 'Gun Free Zone' signs from the mall which made the mall susceptible to this kind of activity.

I blame the vandals. How was the shooter supposed to know if the signs weren't plainly visible?

Rusty Shorts's picture

Hollywood Shootout 1997

The famous Bank of America robbery North Hollywood shootout

One World Mafia's picture

I have noticed the increase in frequency of these shootings coincides with legislative attempts to annihilate the 2nd amdt.

Bananamerican's picture

the frequency of these shootings coincides with the looting of the nation....


Bay of Pigs's picture

Let me guess, a white young male with an AR 15, who is a loner.

kito's picture

...who believes in the constitution and liberty....and is anti government....

TeamDepends's picture

...and is carrying the incriminating documents in his backpack...

BoNeSxxx's picture

Nah ZH has it wrong... the mall is giving away donuts tonight.

CrimsonAvenger's picture

This was preventable. Never close a Cinnabon early when Chris Christie is in the area for a campaign event.

F-Tipp's picture

If everyone had just "sheltered in place" this woul....I can't even say that jokingly. I cannot STAND to hear that phrase. It just makes so little sense at all.

"So there's a guy with a gun shooting people. Just cower in place and don't try to do anything. The authorities will be here soon. Just hide and shelther in place."

What a bunch of shit.

Manthong's picture

Shirley there must have been some defensive scissors in at least several of the stores..

it's the state-endorsed methtod for muppets to defend themselves against a whacko with a deadly semi-automatic weapon of war.

ParkAveFlasher's picture

Police chief was just on  local news citing a history of drug use, he cited "mdma".  Really, ecstasy, really? I bet he reached his emotional self-discovery dance floor catharsis as he was blowing up cameras with his bangstick.  When pressed on that point he stammered, "it's a narcotic, uh he uh used heroin as well".  

Headbanger's picture

Where were all the armed concealed carry permit holders in that mall when this nut job showed up!? 

Guns not allowed in malls in NJ??  

As for the body armor... this is why I train to hit the knees, hands and face as well.  And a heavy object thrown at the back of the head can often help the situation.

BTW, a half inch of plexi-glass stops a lot of hand gun rounds and can greatly slow a 223 AR round. 

Ans isn't there a Dick's sporting good store in that mall? 

Why yes there is!    Then its weapon of choice demo time!

BliptoP3's picture

Shop smart (bitchez)

Shop S MART!

tsx500's picture

NSA has informed us that he listened daily to Glen Beck and he had one of those American flag stickers on his car window.

Zero Point's picture

There will be a reckoning.

Remember names and addresses where possible people.