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Spot The European Economic Recovery

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As we recently exclaimed, European macro data is deteriorating rapidly (even as talking-head after talking-head simply ignore this 'fact' and steer investors into EU stocks because, well, they are going up). That "Europe is recovering" meme appears an unarguable truth - except when you look at the truth of the following chart.

Top-down...

 

and bottom-up.

There is a silver lining: as nobody can afford cars, more and more Europeans will ride bikes. Oh wait, it was America that had an obesity epidemic. Oh well.

Source: Natixis, Goldman and @Not_Jim_Cramer

 

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Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:20 | 4120120 JeremyWS
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lol, long DAX bitches

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:25 | 4120136 Dareconomics
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No wonder Euro Stoxx have been performing so well.  That absymal economic performance points to more printing:

http://dareconomics.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/around-the-globe-11-04-2013/

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:29 | 4120151 knukles
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Look it! 
It's right there.
There!
Right where the line stops at the bottom of the chart!
Yeah!
There!
There's no more paper for it to go any lower so it has to level off or rise.
That's modern technical analysis.
It's good.

All good.

 

yeah

 

over there

 

look a pony!

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 21:14 | 4120907 SAT 800
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I remember when I got paper chart books mailed to me every two weeks; for all the commodity markets., During the interim you had to keep the previous paper chart up to date with phone calls and a ball-point pen. It turned out that running out of paper doesn't stop market deterioration. I clearly remember taping on a half-sheet of paper to the bottom of the printed page with clear tape and charting on into "space", before the new chart book arrived. Those were the days ! Paper Charts and Iron Traders ! Now all you pussies have to do is press a button on your computer and bingo; more opportunity to make mistakes pops up then you can deal with. Progress is so wonderful.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 18:22 | 4120492 Truthseeker2
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As US-UK goes, so goes EU and the Eurozone.  It's really a race to the bottom, so either one may hit rock bottom before the other.
^  "All Four Wheels Come Off The Anglo-American Juggernaut"

http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=2127

 

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:42 | 4120183 dcohen
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There are over 80 million people in Germany, while long is good for now (even though overbought) those charts say nothing about the relative strength of the economy compared to the other countries.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 21:16 | 4120913 SAT 800
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What's your point? You do understand they have a "common currency"? right? Right. In other words, chained together at the neck until dead. Is there some part of this you don't understand?

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:25 | 4120133 LetThemEatRand
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But the wealthy are buying up exotic Italian cars like they are going out of style.  Doesn't all that wealth trickle down and raise all boats?    I'm writing to Santa right now to get to the bottom of this.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:43 | 4120187 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  I'm writing to Santa right now to get to the bottom of this.

Which exotic Italian car are you going to ask Santa for?

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:15 | 4120294 adr
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He'll ask for a Ferrari, but get a Fiat.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 19:58 | 4120695 philipat
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But the Fiat will be from "Uncle Bennie" right?

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:19 | 4120303 LetThemEatRand
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There was a time I really wanted pretty much any of the leading options.  Not so much any more.  First, I've realized that having an expensive car does not solve all of life's problems, and if I had the money I would spend it elsewhere.  Second, when the SHTF, I want to be in something less conspicuous.  

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:31 | 4120348 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  I want to be in something less conspicuous

Oh man, the people on here are so pessimistic.

You can't have an endless parade of high-end-hotties without an expensive Italian sports car!

I think this site just doesn't have its priorities straight sometimes.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:42 | 4120379 spine001
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Make sure its something you can run on electricity. It will be the last to go and you can generate it easy with horses or humans and a generator. Gas wont be found anywhere after only a few days after the crisis.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:46 | 4120397 LetThemEatRand
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Now that you mention it, I guess I could keep the Italian job in the garage when the collapse comes.....

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 20:08 | 4120711 malikai
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That's not your garage.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:48 | 4120206 macholatte
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Pebble Beach Auctions 2013: A $27.5 million car and some other stuff

http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/news/classic-cars/news-classic-cars-pebbl...

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:25 | 4120138 MathWins
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Darn!  The magic of saying 'things are getting better' isn't working any more.  WTH?

Who'd a thunk? 

 

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:25 | 4120140 Sofa King Confused
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WINNING

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:27 | 4120144 Finnman
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Not true. Italian car registrations are going to increase and  housing & property boom is hotter and hotter in Germany and Nordic countries.

 

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:28 | 4120152 kralizec
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All that nut-racking has to cut into the native birth rates some more too.

Awesome!

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:34 | 4120161 Rehab Willie
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REAL growth is BAD in the new normal.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:37 | 4120171 thisandthat
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There's 8 million bicycles in... Euroland.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:40 | 4120175 LawsofPhysics
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So the PIIGS are vampire (Germany) food, I am just shocked, shocked I tell you...

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:41 | 4120180 Colonel Klink
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It's RIGHT THERE, can't you see it?

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:41 | 4120185 orangegeek
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kill the car industry and build the bicycle industry

 

ass backwards takes on new meaning everyday

 

thanks to all you socialists/central planners for making all of this happen and bringing forth all this prosperity

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:46 | 4120203 NOTaREALmerican
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Re: this prosperity

Well "prosperty" isn't just an amount of money.

Maybe all the ISM people are too hung-up on "properity" being GDP.   A bicycle can be as useful as a car in a european city.

Whatever happened to usefulness?

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:50 | 4120410 luigi
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Socialist? Central planners? I thought McCarty had long gone...

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:44 | 4120196 Rainman
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So much for the bankster's euro common currency experiment. One huge mountain of bubble and bust collapse per graph # 1 .

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:50 | 4120216 Navymugsy
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Where's Cyprus on the "cars sold" chart? Don't they do negative bar graphs anymore?

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:52 | 4120222 WTFUD
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Fat bottomed girls.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:52 | 4120230 superflex
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PIGS will be pigs

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:54 | 4120235 Navymugsy
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My usual wise ass self aside, I follow Irish real estate prices closely and even though the prices have fallen quite a bit, what's keeping them up? I can understand speculators in Dublin but who's buying houses out in the West and Northwest? 300,000 euros for a house in Cork. You have got to be shitting me. How many people in Cork make that kind of dough? Decline, yes. Collapse? Nope.

Great Max Keiser show for the Ireland followers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcESeKY3L_w

 

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 21:23 | 4120930 SAT 800
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As far as I know; unless they have an unknown secret internet Porn Web; nobody in Cork made any money. God only knows who is closing on these house sales. Retired Ukrainian Prostitutes ?

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:56 | 4120244 venturen
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So....their market will go up because this allows them to print lots of money?

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:05 | 4120259 jubber
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DAX hits new 5y high at Wall Street close!, what a farce

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:04 | 4120261 Stuck on Zero
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Clearly conditions are getting so bad for the poor and middle class that the central banks will be forced to hand more trillions to the mega-rich.

 

 

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:20 | 4120304 syntaxterror
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Motherfuckingbullish!

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:20 | 4120309 adr
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My local Buick dealer made an advertisement with a 60 something black couple dancing on a porch telling them they can lease a new Buick Verano for $80 a month.

I though the ad was very racist. Telling black people they can only afford $80 a month for a car. 

I think we've hit peak GM.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:29 | 4120341 ebworthen
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$250 due at signing, $35,000 due at end of lease (worry about that tomorrow...er...2019).

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:34 | 4120354 superflex
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That's one magical residual.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 21:23 | 4120937 SAT 800
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Shit they can rent a new Buick on their EBT card. What a scene.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:42 | 4120373 Make_Mine_A_Double
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Short Crysler - Fiat is fucked. Making mid sized sedans or even eco cars in Europa is dead as a door nail. This is not cyclical but very structural.

That said Italy still has the hottest pussy in the world bar none.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 21:26 | 4120946 SAT 800
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Ukrainian; Latvian; Hungarian. Lot of pussy out there; don't be too quick to judge; do a long term survey.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:41 | 4120376 Abi Normal
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Dick loves Spot, run Spot run, as Dick throws Spot a ball!!!

Awwwww, forgive the nostalgia, and let me wax morons in the EU, poor beggars! Lie, steal, cheat and still can't catch a break, what's the woild turnin' to!!!

The trick is on them, problem the treat will be ours? How ironic?

Prepare accordingly!

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:41 | 4120377 The Reich
Mon, 11/04/2013 - 17:43 | 4120378 Rick64
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 This is just a correction. The european stock market will keep going up. Its one yr. into a bull market so its just getting started. 

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 20:22 | 4120753 disabledvet
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prices are falling in Spain and Italy actually. Same is true for Greece apparently. Lot's of upgrades for Spain all of sudden but it sure is hard to see a recovery coming anytime soon.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 22:47 | 4121239 Rick64
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 I'm not saying that this is a recovery, but the stock markets will go up in Europe just as they have been going up in the U.S.  for 4 yrs.. I also think both are unsustainable and will come crashing down, but this isn't going to happen anytime soon. It takes time for empires to fall. 

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 21:28 | 4120953 SAT 800
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The EURO; the little currency that sounds like a urinary track disease, another interesting experiment by the French; world authorities on currencies who drove two of their own currencies to zero in the same century; without a foreign war. Real experts on paper, they are.

Tue, 11/05/2013 - 15:29 | 4123682 Martel
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I don't get that last chart, total cars & bicycles sold. What does it have to do with anything? I guess someone is trying to insinuate Europeans can't afford cars anymore, so they're switching to bicycles. They may be right, but even in that case, they should've produced a chart showing how the respective figures have developed over time.

The city structure is very different in Europe than in the U.S. In the U.S., the most popular places to live are in suburbs, hence you need a car. In Europe, the most popular/expnesive places are in downtown, inner cities, close to town squares, piazzas, whatever. Hence, people buy lots of bicycles, scooters, tiny cars, as those are more convenient.

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