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This is What Happens to Walmart Pork Before It Reaches Your Plate
Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
The cruelty inherent in animal factory farming is something that we as a species should find completely and totally unacceptable. Indeed, evidence shows that when people are exposed to the nightmarish conditions faced by factory animals prior to consumption they demand change. This is precisely why corporate interests have pushed ag-gag laws throughout the nation in an attempt to criminalize the exposure of these methods.
I am sure many of you have already been exposed to videos of shocking animal cruelty before. Even if you have, the video below created by Mercy for Animals is a very important watch. It exposes unthinkable abuse of tiny, helpless pigs for absolutely no good reason. These incidents were filmed at Pipestone System’s Rosewood Farms in Pipestone, Minnesota earlier this year.
WARNING: Parts of this video are extraordinarily disturbing. While I think it is important for people to watch it and be aware, it might be too much to handle for some.
More from the Huffington Post:
Undercover footage that appears to show horrifying conditions at a Walmart pork supplier has prompted investigations at a Minnesota factory farm.
Local law enforcement executed a search warrant at Pipestone System’s Rosewood Farms in Pipestone, Minn., on Oct. 9, following a complaint filed by animal rights nonprofit Mercy for Animals. The organization says an undercover private investigator collected first-hand evidence, including video footage, of inhumane treatment of pigs raised and slaughtered at the facility.
The hidden-camera footage appears to show pregnant pigs confined in tiny “gestation crates,” pigs being punched and abused, and piglets being thrown on their heads and mutilated without anesthetic.
Matt Rice, the director of investigations at Mercy for Animals, told HuffPost the investigator — whose identity has been kept private — spent 10 weeks posing as an employee at Rosewood Farms earlier this year.
“Pregnant pigs are confined in tiny metal crates that are just barely big enough to hold them,” he said of the factory farm. “They’re basically immobile for their entire lives. They can’t turn around, they can’t lie down comfortably, and they suffer from large open wounds and pressure sores from rubbing against the bars.”
Rice calls these gestation crates — banned in the European Union and in nine U.S. states, including California, Colorado, Florida and Arizona — “one of the most cruel forms of institutionalized cruelty.”
Unlike more than 60 other major retailers, including Kroger, McDonald’s, Safeway,Costco and Kmart, which have all refused to work with pork suppliers that use gestation crates, Walmart has not instituted such a policy.
The nonprofit says it has conducted at least two dozen such undercover investigations at factory farms, dairy farms, hatcheries and slaughterhouses in recent years — three of which, including the most recent at Rosewood, were at Walmart pork suppliers.
“Every single time, our investigators have brought back images that would horrify most Americans,” Rice said. “This is a sign that mutilating animals without anesthesia and confining them in cages so small they can’t turn around are considered standard industry practice.”
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mmm bacon
The workers are "Peace Officers" and the pigs are us.
They should do that to the pigs in uniforms.
This is capitalism folks. Maximize productivity by lowering standards for the treatment of animals. Raise productivity by lowering the cost of labor. Raise productivity by replacing people with machines.
Want to stop it? Then you need to think about the cure for capitalism.
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/06/cure-for-capitalism.html
props to ZH for posting this considering the base.
"props to ZH for posting this considering the base."
Tell me what "base" is pro this treatment of animals? I've read the comments here on ZH for years and the only common base I've ever seen is a passionate dislike of keynesian economics, bankers, false monetary systems and expansive government. How does that translate into hating animals.
Or are you one of those who projects false caricatures on people you disagree with in order to make yourself feel superior?
AND DON'T FORGET GOLD BITCHES!!
I am Chumbawamba.
And the base 'speaks', sort of.
Proud to write I do not shop at Wal-Mart. Ever. It has nothing to do with costs.
Btw, eating to much pork just ain't good!
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"OVEREATING: The #1 Killer"Especially pork and other meat products
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http://thehealthcoach1.com/?p=154Naturally eating too much of anything aint good. But the pig was made to be eaten and has a storied history. Before the second coming of Jesus, the human sperm wasn't big & strong enough to penetrate the egg of a female bear, and until it did, their were no pigs. But afterwords, the combination of man/bear=pig was soon born, and a tasty treat he remains to this day on our tables.
I didn't see the video because I don't have javascript or whatever but from the comments I have deduced that the video shows the training ground for the TSA?
Am I correct?
Over.
"Naturally eating too much of anything aint good"
Yeah, Michael Douglas proved that !
I guess it's 4:20 somewhere!
...or just a case of wake'n bake.
For me , it's the atmosphere. When I go , I get depressed about America and what we have become. I avoid if possible.
The ZH base for describing all Americans as fat, stupid, and lazy, the air of superiority, and "if people just did this (and nothing happened to me) then everything would be OK." That base. Reminds me of a guy I worked for in the late 80's. All minorities were worthless. Everyone should just take care of their own. Blah blah blah. Then his spine began to melt together due to a disease. Dam. he suddenly truned from a republican to a democrat overnight. Worthless hypocrite. Like Kitco, ZH is rife with unempathetic, selfish, me-only, and emotionally crippled men. Now get the f$#k back to your cubicle, pin boy.
Soo...you must be referring to another disease...repubs like dems both lack a spine
All your base are belong to us
Well said.
top comment reply to article is "mmm bacon"
nuff said
The "base" enjoys bacon or at the least humor.
nuff said
There are only two kinds of people in the world:
One kind puts people into categories; the other kind doesn't.
The base that was cheering when Gulf War 1 started because they were long oil.
The base that thinks profit money is better than a living wage, sweatshop working conditions and a few inconvenienced pigs.
Pretty much that base you and I in many respects.
One final point how can you disagree with someone if the object of disagreement does not exist?
It's not just the pigs in the Walmart supply chain, it is every animal and worker. When you shop at Walmart, this is what you support. New Lower Price = new unbelievable labor and/or animal practice implemented.
I'll never look at a BLT the same way ever again.
The reality is that those who happily abuse animals, will equally happily abuse people too.
Pigs are smart (VERY Smart!) and they make great pets. Downside is that they do have a tendency to dig up the garden if left unsupervised . . .
Very smart??? I guess they're not smart enough to bust out of their cages.
So every human in lock up is not smart.
Got it.
I take offense to that. Nancy Pelosi has never uprooted my garden. She just taxed it.
Are you surprised the we have the most basic of empathy for other living beings?
@BKBroiler
Really? So free-market libertarians are the evil bastards who slash and burn and kill everything we see for money?
Maybe reading a little history may be in order. Socialist and communist governments have been the most cruel and disgusting systems throughout history. First, look at all the people who have been slain by their own governments. Second, look at what the brainwashed "citizens" of said countries do after years of brainwashing and savagery, in order to make a living. Ignorant peasants who will kill each other and everything else in order to make a quick buck.
Here's a great example of animal cruelty from China...formerly a communiust country and now just a dictatorship where the people will fuck anything and anybody to survive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz0s4XK4GuA
Sick fucks are always the product of generations of socialist bullshit. Wal Mart is an expert at crony capitalism - ie socialism for the rich.
Really? So free-market libertarians are the evil bastards who slash and burn and kill everything we see for money?
Finally somebody sees the light, couldn't have said it better myself. Take #1 corpo-nazi GE. After they dumped PCB's in to every waterway east of the Mississippi, they built "necessary" nuke reactors, but we have billions of tons of coal, oil and gas, right?
"...formerly a communist country"
China is MOST DEFINITELY still a communist country.
BK - you're way off on that comment - this "base" you do not know - this ain't a Red vs Blue or Rep vs Dem or Rich vs Poor - I'd characterize it more like - "What Works vs What Doesn't Work" - that video doesn't work for sure...
and here's socialism, folks...
http://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/cuba-hospital.jpg
http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm
I hate to see this bullshit happen to animals, but its really gonna suck when it starts happening to humans in this country.
#1 Dam, that lookes like Robin Rubin, our former Treas. Secretary.
#2 You have obviously never worked in a US nursing home.
Been to a few of em. none looked anything like a cuban hospital. If you have seen one that has, it was probably a STATE RUN hospital. Same shit. If you worked in a nursing home that resembles a cuban hospital, either you made a huge stink about the conditions, or you are part of the problem, and probably shouldn't post.
The soulution is right in the article, transparency. If people KNOW the methods, they can make an informed choice as to how they want to spend their wealth. We don't need any "new" economic system, because any other that isn't based upon the agreement between X parties for an exchange of value never works, you are always impairing someone or stealing from someone to assuage the feelings of one of the parties or your own guilt.
And capitalists don't "lower" the cost of labor, labor does that by reproduction, and pricing themselves out locally by bargaining themselves out of work via wages that encourage either mechinization or outsourcing. If for any given job, you [while fully staffed] could put out a help wanted ad and have a line 2 blocks long of applicants willing to take half what you're paying, your paying to much.
The masses voted for the assholes that gave us fractional and fiat money, which in turn suck them into the cities to "make the big bucks" on the hamster wheel of unrealistic growth. While I won't blame them or their descendants for buring the place down when the big reset comes, they always had/have the choice (harder now than in the past, granted) to check out of it by refusing debt servitude and working their way back to the land.
Transparency IS the solution. I often wonder, if consumers were faced with a choice between competing products, what would they choose based on the inputs of its production? Sure, on the face, the consumer will always choose cheaper. But if the two choices were betweeen child labor, and things of that nature for $35, OR jobs in your home country that paid living wages for $100, what would they do? I'd like to think that they would opt for the more expensive product. But maybe I have too much faith in people.
I make a decision to shop at Costco as much as possible. They pay a fair, living wage and in turn have very low turnover. It's a pleasure to shop somewhere that has smart and engaged workers who are treated with respect.
So you have a meth addiction instead of a crack addiction?
But if the two choices were betweeen child labor, and things of that nature for $35, OR jobs in your home country that paid living wages for $100, what would they do?
The alternative to child labour is starvation or child prostitution. People don't send their kids to work from pure whimsy - they do it because otherwise the family will starve.
Once a society is wealthy enough to have kids defer their productivity while sitting for hours in a classroom being educated, that's what happens. Until then, it's work... or die.
Um, this would only be the case in a nation already under some form of capitalist/mercantilist/or maybe feudal structure.
If there are no currency requirements placed on people (rent, food must be purchased after commons have been enclosed, taxes, etc) then no one must manifest currency through any means available. No indigenous societies prostitue their children or make them work.
I think the answer to that question is clear. Walmart exists. Perhaps folks don't know about the factory pork, but it is well publicized that Walmart imports many cheap products from China. And that this affects American jobs and the economy. Yet people still shop there.
So it would appear that when given the choice between a costlier product made in America vs a cheaper product made in China, most go for the lower price. I think the same will be true for food products. Most will go for the savings and try not to think too much about how it happens.
How is transparency established and guaranteed? By the private banks, the free market lobbies, or by a strong state with a strong justice?
You mis-typed that sentence it should be AND not OR.
Correct. and all the libertarians who damn the state don't even want the existing animal protecting laws.
Only a strong state can have a strong justice. Only a strong state can protect this planet from the greed of the lobbies.
But according to your communist motivation it must be mentioned that nowhere in the world the standard how animals have been treated were lower than in the marxistic paradise. Ofcourse since your sick political ideology beieves the human species were not bound to the laws of nature, everything was possible. Very similar to the capitalistic Western Alliies.
Only the other side of the same coin which is: (jewish) MATERIALISM.
and what, exactly is your strong state doing to protect the animals at walmart?
Plus 1. These type of fucks always conveniently forget that THEIR type of state is what we have now.
And use it's failure to somehow "prove" that nothing else could work.
This behavior is given to man by nature and is unnecessary and wrong.
Government behavior is given to man by nature and is unnecessary, destructive and wrong.
Of course you lack the ability to see that BOTH of these things are wrong and products of the animal world.
In this context, that makes you half human - you wish to make slaves of others.
No it's not capitalism, this is what happens when big business and big government get together an decide to pork the serfs.
Walmart succeeds because 1) people are stupid and/or immoral, not understanding the long term consequences of their search for immediate gratification at the "lowest" cost much less that a Walmart pig is a substitution for a real pig, they are not the same or equal products and 2) people are poor and discouraged after years of big business and big government fleecing their wallets and no longer have the means or the will to fight the beast.
The same government that is capable of mandating something "sensible" in one aspect of agriculture has already mandated more than enough "insanity" to more than offset any benefit. Government is not the solution, but consumers prefer to remain ignorant and irresponsible for their own choices and would rather (and willing do) climb into Uncle Sam's gestation crate to be milked for all they're worth by big government and big business.
+1 UR for correctly pointing at the BIG biz and BIG gov paradigm as the real culprit. which is famous for the commoditization of the economy. and when one pork belly equals another, nobody is interested in the quality of that pork (or it's life as a pig), only it's quantity and price
yet big biz inroads increase the cries for a bigger gov, which is then a bigger pie for big biz to eat
if you'd seriously want to fix the situation you'd have to shrink the privileges of big biz, first, and then shrink the gov. all the calls for shrinking gov first were imho just futile
return to the correct balance between small and big biz and you have half of the problem already solved
The Orwellian plot line of the pigs' plight is pretty clear, the sheeple for cry for "justice" and more rules are introduced, then someone comes up with an innovative (insanely expensive) more "humane" solution, which the State then mandates the use of, thus eliminating the competition, then after some time passes the sheeple cry for "innovation" and the oligarchs cut some costs and re-introduce what is effectively the very same gestation crate in use before the cries for "justice" - Rinse, Repeat stupidity in all its glory.
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The "Walmart" issue is a red herring, over here in Happy Gnome Valley, we have the evil Migros oligarchy- which is actually setup as an cooperative - for the living wage sheeple/employees and all... However, if you go into one of their Walmart/Home Depot like super centers you get disgustingly low quality Chinese hand tools that break even under "non-use" - big business uses its scale to kill both the small producers and the small retailers, sacrificing choice and quality in the name of price, the graveyards of which the sheeple whistle pass on their way to the consumerist Church of the Holy light Red Light Special to make offerings to the unholy symbiosis of Big B & Big G.
OT - lol - this reminds me your epic comment about "Chinese Water Torture ... by Sheepleconomists"
your Gnome Valley's Migros cooperative is actually quite ok, as I hear from other sources - it had some bad PR from small producers getting "hooked into the system" once. or do you have a different view?
I find it still strange how little the cooperative model is being discussed, in ZH. though actually it makes sense: nothing to bet on
perhaps this old discussion with Mediocritas on the cooperative model in insurance might interest you
It's not the cooperative model that I object to (when I lived in the US, I used the USAA cooperative for banking and insurance), it's the relative/dominant scale and resultant ability to exploit the marketplace (through pricing and membership) that I object to.
Within the Swiss grocery store oligarchy Migros and Coop are cooperatives, while Aldi, Lidl and Volg are traditional, and if you aren't a member of the club don't plan on opening a grocery store in Switzerland. Among the cooperatives Migros is the worst. They started out with groceries, and their expansion into petrol stations and convenience stores was rather benign in terms of the competitors displaced (or simply rebranded by joining the cooperative). The expansion into banking is more problematic (it's not like the Swiss don't already have a issue with large unmanageable banks- even at the cantonal level, and the private banks are being driven into corporatocracy) because the cooperatives' captive banks increase their ability to pursue new business lines using their capitalization (and expansive membership) to displace smaller market participants. The independent travel agencies have been dying for years due to the internet, so I'll skip that one, and move directly to housewares and home furnishings.
Living in Switzerland is like living in a giant company town (pop. 8,000,000) go into most people's homes and look at the furniture, it's not quite "you can have in it any color you want so long as it is black" but the Swiss fetish for garish contrasts hides the fact that all their furniture that wasn't passed down from ancestors or isn't top line imports amongst the executive and diplomatic classes is all black underneath- at the expense of craftsmen and merchants. A third of the entire population of Switzerland are members of the Migros oligarchy (even more if you look membership at on a household level)- between the captive banks and cross selling/bundling products to their own membership they can grind down any competitor short of an Ikea. It's hardly an open or competitive marketplace, when one must either be TBTF or Too Small to Matter in order to survive.
The Swiss cooperatives are just a kinder and gentler oligarchy (sort of like George H W Bush's MIC).
Shortly after moving to Switzerland I decided that the next time I retire I am going to open a General Store, and sell all the superior foreign products and designs that the oligarchy don't feel the Swiss need, starting will Costco-sized bottles of Tabasco Sauce - because 57mL is a single serving and 4 CHF is a rip-off, the people deserve better choices.
Hell on Earth, where cruel self, fed on fear, becomes god
everybody knows this is nowhere...
fate of humanity everywhere
who do you love?
Is this Heaven, Hell, or Houston?
You need to end ag gag laws and people need to know where their meat comes from.
But boy, some of us were sickened by the sight of Hedgless' dead rabbits. I did notice they had a large space to move around on tht looked clean with lots of fresh straw. Bet HH treats his animals well and kills them humanely.
Too true. Capitalism has hung a dollar sign around the necks of all living things, as the owner class commodifies everything for profit. They don't see living creatures or ecosystems, they see dollars.
This is a failing of any market based social paradigm. And before going off the rails against communism, relax, I'm not suggesting State-capitalism-heavy (as oppose to state-capitalism-lite) is the solution.
Ahh yes comrade bring on the five year plan. Led by none other than the Dear leader himself -BO. Should we not get the results we want we shall shoot the workers in the head. ( end sarcasm)
Calling the current system plaguing us, capitalism, is like calling Twinkies food.
This shit makes me so god damn fucking angry. Don't get me wrong slaughtering animals is a necessary process as part of our modern society and I love bacon as much as the next guy. But there are industry standards that were developed for the animals protection in their last moment of life and in the quality of our food.
I am sick of stupid fucking humans.
I don't get it, either. Whoever runs these farms is clearly psychopathic. When someone tortures animals, they're one step away from being Ted Bundy.
Or Ted Nugent, take your pick.
I'm pretty sure you meant to say, "Or Ted Kennedy, take your pick."
Help out then. Go into garage, start auto with door closed and be part of the solution. I cannot believe how fucking stupid 90% of the ZHers are. So other than your little fit, what are you going to do about it? Let's guess: keep eating bacon the day after you forget to remember.
You forgot to add the word "selfish" between fucking & stupid.
Buy organic, obviously
Cool! Where are your keys?
This video is from one farm. What leads you to believe that all farms supplying WalMart are like this farm?
Ag lobbying for ag-gag laws to silence the debate, the bolded part of the article summary. To me this is more serious than the actual abuse.
ZH has been had. Aside from the footage where some worker (not a farmer) is slaming small pigs on the cement floor probably at the instruction of some vegan, the farrowing crates are staged footage because its impossible to raise animals to maturity in a confined cage. Tails are bobbed for health reasons and balls are removed so your BACON!!! does not taste like pig testosterone'.
I don't know if you're correct or not, but I do know that it is acceptable & common practice for male chicks, which have zero commercial value, to be killed by smashing their skulls against a hard surface.
A lot of what we accept as a society in terms of the treatment of livestock is predicated on economics - relatively inexpensive protein derived from animals requires factory farming and conditions such as these (ask any livestock farmer, or manager of a big agra factory farm).
I'm not making a moral judgment whatsoever - I personally am willing to pay more for meat that is culled from animals that were fed antibiotic & hormone free feed, be it grain or grass, and were granted some semblance of dignity, and allowed to live in sanitary conditions, during their lives (if all this can be verified, rather than merely alleged), while recognizing not everyone has the means to do so.
Not only is such meat healthier, but it tastes better, IMO, and it often allows consumers a way to trust their supplier, as well as teach their children where animal protein really comes from, which isn't a shrink wrapped, sanitized package in the grocery store meat section.
The very best beef I've ever eaten was from white faced Hereford cattle that
ate grass and weren't pumped full of antibiotics or other meds.
The best Bison I've eaten came from a Native American rancher where the animals grazed the way nature intended & drank water free flowing from spring fed aquifers.
The best venison backstrap I've eaten was from deer I cleanly harvested (i.e. causing as little suffering as possible for the animal) myself, that ate clover, acorns, dandelions, corn & apples.
Once any sane person eats this type of meat, from animals that are respected, they will never want to eat factory meat again - ever.
To be able to do requires conscious effort & planning, as well as networking with similarly minded people, though.
To be be able to "tie into" this circle of life, and consume protein derived from the abundance of this earth as nature has provided for thousands of years, is the truest luxury.
Classy post. Well said friend.
Thanks.
It never fails to reflexively reassure me that the world hasn't gone completely mad when at least one other person "gets it."
Absolutely agree too! Except for the Herford. We are Red Angus people. But the humane treatment of animals is the critical issue. Not only is it the morally correct thing to do but you are what you eat. No wonder the Walmart crowd is obese and sickly.
Miffed;-)
Angus is usually what's for dinner around these parts, but agree with the sentiment. Fear and stress during slaughter pumps adrenaline and at least 30 hormones into the bloodstream and raises the pH of the meat. This is far more apparent in a good steak than in hamburger due for adulteration by some chain.
The best meal I ever had was grade A jewess hairpie, that I harvested myself, fed on lobster and white wine.
The one thing that doesn't taste like chikin...
When I first read that I thought it said 'jewess harpy', which I thought was a bit strong.
re: "jewess harpy"
I hope like hell there's some grape drank to go with that hairpie!
That's not kosher.
Everthing you say (as squishy as you put it) is true. The only problem is that the BILLIONS of people that are standing in line don't have the ability (or desire) to be as cool as you. Da, my kids have been raised on moose and salmon, lucky they are but I'm not ignorant of the realities or feel like looking down my nose at some pig farmer in Viet Nam or Virginia.
You can also buy organic, grassfed beef at WalMart.
Good post-
While I agree with your statements pertaining to bison, deer, and cow, which all are pretty safe to eat in their most natural state, I want to point out that specifically wild hogs, poorly maintain swine, or any meat-eating wild are generally not as safe to eat. They can carry trichinosis as an unlike bison, deer, and cow.
One my friends did her thesis on best-safe practices for bringing hogs to market for consumption. She found that ideally, you want to raise them in a laboratory ("sterile") setting where the only confluence of bacteria encountered (E. Coli in the intestinal tract) is readily countered measured. The food, antibiotics, and growth hormone are carefully administered to achieve the fastest, safest pork possible.
So by the above paragraph, the reader may arrive at the conclusion, that really, the moral dichotomy is, "do I risk eating pork that came from a happy, free, dirty pig; or do I eat a laboratory-raised, cruelty-to-animals pig, that's safe to eat?" It's no wonder many cultures like Jew, Muslims, Orthodox Christians of African pursuasions, vegatarians and vegans do not eat pork.
Also,
The reason why pork is a popular meat to sell, is that pigs are extremely fast growers and prolific reproducers. They can literally turn 30% of the food they consume into edible meat, which is nearly 4 times more efficient than the bovine.
Wait,...
Vegans don't eat pork?
I hope VD doesn't watch this video.
He might have to apologize to the Hedgeless Horseman.
No, you're breeding superbugs for convenience; stop being mentally retarded before it's too late.
I'm vegan and feel great. Read China Study and Forks over Knives if you know how to read.
Then eat this steak tartar and tell me how you feel in a couple hours; what you are doing is unnatural and dumb, which would be perfectly fine, if you'd just keep your nutball fetishes to yourself.
The China Study and Forks over Knives are good, but have some flaws. I respect vegans, but I can't cut it.
Former Animal Science major here...I spent many nights farrowing pigs. You are correct about the farrowing crates...none of those sows looked pregnant. Sows are moved into farrowing crates that are designed so that the sow can not roll over. When they roll over onto the piglets 14 to 16 of them die instantly. These crates are not used to raise pigs. Within 24 hours of birth the piglets have their tails cut off because the other piglets bite the tails and all sorts of infections set in. They have their needle teeth cut off (the sharp lower 2 teeth that would grow into tusk like teeth) because they would bite the mother's teets and cause all sorts of infections and injury to the sow. The have their testicles removed because boar meat is inedible and they are also given numbers (stamped) or have their ears notched so they can be tracked. They are also weighed.
That said, the conditions in the video looked horrible.
However did these fragile creatures ever manage to fluorish without your brilliant "central planning"?
Acting as an apologist for people too lazy to conduct their business in a responsible manner is abhorrent.
That's what happens when you breed for size and quick growth only. Heritage breeds are much more resiliant - if less "profitable."
Once we make the move to our farm, Tamworth pigs are in our future. For now - we only buy local, free-range, humanely raised, etc. etc.
Support your local farmers who grow/raise in an ethical and sustainible manner. Fuck the "Auschwitz Farms" model of factory farming.
I am no apologist, sir. I was just trying to explain what the standard swine practices are. You are going after me because I explained what they do? What they do is horrible! I was pre-vet. I could have done pre-vet via Biology or Animal Science. I chose Animal Science. I still have nightmares after having seen the slaughter and butchering of animals that I'd wanted to care for. When the blood pours out of the neck of a steer hanging upside down from a chain and it covers your boots because your are too shocked to move, you will know the horror of the arbitoire. I'd wanted to care for God's fragile creatures my whole life and somehow ended up in an animal-slaughtering hell. I had to quit school because I was so tramatized and lost. The cruelty shown in that video shows a place where animals are tortured and men lose their souls.
GMadScientist is a rabble-rouser.
Don't let his feces-slinging bother you too much.
tails are removed so prematurely weaned piglets don't suck on other piglets tails causing infection. aka "health reasons"
mmm... a-hole! (tastes like ass.)
Animal cruelty is widespread among the companies that serve all major chains. But if you needed another reason to stop shopping at Walmart....
Think about what these employees do after leaving ProleMart.
Human cruelty to animals is not limited to the Walmart supply chain. I need to get off my ass and start only eating meat killed in a civilized way. It's a big step but I'm getting tired of my own hypocricy here. Thanks for posting.
Try dumpster diving. One night I got enough packaged bacon and ham to fill a chest freezer which I also got out of a dumpster. Wasn't rotten. Didn't make me sick. Well, the waste made me sick... those pigs lived horrible lives and then died for nothing.
The Dumpster Gods are pissed off too. They are looking to help anyone who will stick it to the Man by not paying. Don't believe me? Consider offering them a small sacrifice by leaving some stuff you don't need in a free bin. Then get into a few dumpsters and see what turns up. Don't do restaurants or Asian supermarkets.
Best post tonight. Out of new world chaos comes New World Order.
Why all the cloak, dagger, and detritus? Start a charity that lets restaurants donate excess/old foodstock...oh, you wanted to keep it all for yourself; I see now.
That and the local bureaucrats will shut you down for giving away old food.
They will. Safety, please think of the children, you know the drill. The real reason is that they can't stand the serfs getting anything for free unless it comes from the tit of Big Govt.
That chest freezer had its plug cut off. Wasn't hard to fix, and it worked perfectly afterwards. Why did they go through the extra effort to cut it off? Were they trying to protect the serfs from committing the horrible faux pas of having last year's model? Were they trying to protect the children from the perils of appliances with tiny dents? Why does another appliance store drop all their appliances into an enormous 10 foot high bin? There is only ever a single layer of smashed appliances at the bottom. The important part is that they be smashed from the drop, and hard to fish out. They know most of them were working before they went in.
Kind of expensive hunting meat with a drone.
The 300+ lb wonders in the flyover states dress out so nicely though.
thank you for the warning on the vid. and this is another case in point on why i refuse to eat flesh, esp pigs.
you notice how brutal the "humans" who worked there seemed?...
The Stanford Prison Experiment works in an inter-species fashion too i suppose...
Indians used to "thank" the critter they were about to eat (maybe some of them still do).
We can eat and still have Reverance
The tribal peoples of the world did not have 'blood lust' aimed at the animals. They killed what they needed to eat and they did it quick with respect. Right now, our civilization is all but lost. We are Roman Empire on global scale, cept nothing is going tp replace it. We deserve 100% what is coming. Economics doesn't mean sh*t when some natural event will f*ck us sideways, take your pick from volcanos to pandemic. Nature will cleanse the plate
What about ritual animal (or human ) sacrifice? Somehow we are told that some "god" wanted this... At some point, people should question what was really going on, and why...
Yeah but there is no thrill in that, some sicko throwing animals around, punching and kicking and mutilating them . That's a modern unique chromosome f*ck up. Maybe it shows fear, we fear nature. Put us out in the wilderness, we are dead, animals can survive under extreme conditions. As for humans, the elements can kill us in 24hrs. All the while some mountain cat is just looking down at us.
Correction. Put most humans out in the wilderness and they will be dead. Some of us, who know how to survive off the land will live. There will be a time when nature brings balance back to the system. She always does.
I agree.
+100
perhaps the connection is not so obvious... but i see are certain types that get a charge out the the suffering of others... whether the others be human or animal really isn't that important a distinction. and this phenomenon is as old as time... as someone noted above, some bless an animal when it is killed, thanking the animal and nature for the gift of life. contrast that with walmart pig farm. the added cruelty of the workers adds nothing economically. serial killers are doing something very similar, as are those who start wars for the sheer pleasure it brings them. these are dark times, and the darkness manifests in many ways.
Look up the "Age of kali yuga"
You need look no further than the root of your own brainstem; cruelty is as built in to humans as crying and fucking. Some blessed those animals because they believed in a real connection between them, the animals, and their dead; superstition at best. Now that we see ourselves as separate from the animals, if not our fellow humans, we have no framework for ethical behavior. After that, it's just distillation as the people that can't stand that work environment are replaced by those who are drawn to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYc3BBWoGVU
'It makes ya think,
it makes ya wonder, i's just so expanding of the mind.
Ya see, there I am, I rip the head off the chicken, and then the chicken
starts flyin' all over. Then he comes back at me, and I wonder is he flyin'
back at me 'cause he's mad 'cause I ripped his head off, or is he flyin'
at me 'cause I'm holdin' his head in my hand, or is he flyin' at me 'cause
he can't see where he's goin'?
No, the guy probably got messed up tring to catch a wild pig and had to take it out on his cousin, the civilized pig.
The Islamic blood porn of halal slaughter dwarfs the mistreatment of animals by Minnesota butchers. There is video of Muslim butchery far worse than this | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCPNRsYij3o
Mr. Condell explains the societal ramifications | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gYq2DQG1zI
He could have so much further with the "societal ramifications" of Halal food... I remember going to some feast deep in the Arabian desert many years ago, one of the host's kids with tasked killing the goat as a "right of passage"... fast forward the YouTube age and the slaughter of infidels by slitting their throats and letting them bleed out, dehumanization of the enemy isn't the sole province of the colonial powers.
Kosher slaughter in the US can be just as barbaric.
http://www.peta.org/features/agriprocessors.aspx
chump666...
"They killed what they needed to eat and they did it quick with respect."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_jump
That is outright Bullshit. Native Americans used to herd Bison over Cliffs killing many more than they could possibly use.
I disagree with the Wiki entry as there were far too many carcasses found in the digs at the Bottom of the cliffs.
Everything is used in an efficiently slaughtered animal. Even the scholars are attempting to "Romanticize" it. Everything is used. The Bones were used.
But the physical evidence does not indicate efficiency. I do not buy all of their bullshit either.
Well sport, you're full of shit. Having whitnessed 'blood lust' by living tribal peoples I laugh out loud at your silly second year anthroplogy urban legend crap. Ya'all come on a sealion hunt with some of my Aleut buddies.
How do you know tribal peoples didn't have blood lust? This is just one video. Could there be examples of blood lust among some tribal peoples' members?
I don't imagine slowly peeling the skin from a living captured enemy from a rival tribe would be considered blood-lust by the romantic 'Noble Savage' Zinn-ophile crowd.
A skillful artisan could keep the victim alive for as long as three days. You could only do that if you didn't let the youngsters cook their feet off the bone. That little entertainment would hasten things up considerably.
Have you had any experience with tribal peoples, or have you just read about them through the filter of some politically correct anthropologist? I've dined with a good number of what one might call "tribal peoples" in several countries. If you want to know what the pre-appetizer mood was like, go see Apocalypse Now again, when they slaughter the gaur. That's pretty much what I've seen. A couple of guys take machetes and have at it. Lots of blood, lots of screeching, lots of bad smells. It's done without emotion, except for the occasional laugh when somebody slips on the blood. More than anything it just looks like the same level of respect and reflection a crocodile exhibits when it snares a wildebeest trying to cross a swollen river, which is to say none. I doubt the animal had a good time checking out.
Our default setting.
I'm not eating that kind of garbage. Grow your own. Pigs are pretty easy to raise. And you can season them while they are under your care by letting them roam the woods for acorns. They have such a good time. And it makes them so tasty.
As for you loud-mouthed vegetarians, good for you. But better for me. More bacon for all us carc-eaters! Enjoy your salad.
Why are all vegans sick-looking thin? Maybe they need a little "meat on their bones." And if you're so damned smart that you profess all your veg-head ways, why did you end up with a VD? Maybe you should be smart in another way too.
Vat-grown meat is just around the corner.
Eventually it'll be cheap and efficient to produce.
But where will sociopaths get their continuous ego trips if they are too dumb to be TSA officers?
FEMA CAMP GUARDS!!!! ;-)
should i have put a sarc tag up?
Right now, 3-d printing of human tissue that can be kept alive for 30 days is happening - you may be thinking you're funny but are not.
Why is it an insult to say "enjoy your salad"?
I enjoy salad very much, thank you. Many meat eaters are missing out on the amazing variety of food and flavor this world offers because they are addicted to meat. Can't have a meal without it. Don't feel full without it. As if vegetables were somehow less than.
Oh, yeah- Enjoy your carcass.
Nice stereotyping: http://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eating/photos/9-superstar-athletes-who-d...
I mainly eat a vegetarian/vegan lifestyle. It amazes me, working in the oil industry, how many guys think not eating meat is less macho or better yet, how it has something to do with ones sexual preference. There is ignorance in a man speaking negatively of another mans diet choice when its something other than what THAT man has grown up to enjoy. How is manliness associated with the consumption of meat products? It is not. It is simply marketing and propaganda paid for by the meat industry that imposes that image on the men in our society.
vegan bodybuilder
just broke world record as a vegan
MMA vegan
another MMA vegan
yet another MMA vegan There are a lot more but this gets the point across...
As a former Marine who works in the oil field industry with a bunch of stereotypical men, I have never had anyone challenge my manhood nor my strength. You sir are blindly parroting a falsity because of your ignorance and ego.
At 6'2", 200lbs I am not weak/feeble, but I am pale, being I'm Irish and all.
Usually people do not know I am Vegan. It takes time for them to see my overall diet to realize there is never any meat. But I could not resist posting a response to your statement.
You know not what you say. Many a person is gob smacked when they invite me to their BBQ and find I only eat the salad. If I can't kill it, I can't eat it.
Your first paragraph was good, the second a nice touch and the third dumb.
I eat less flesh, and humanly handled and raised meat when I do. The meat I see looks nothing like you see in major chains, and comes from local sources. Your comments about Hedgeless rabbit photos were a bit extreme, he raises and takes great care of those rabbits (see his posts), and they don't suffer when their time comes. I would take the happy life, then have my throat slit quickly, over dealing with a slow 1-3 month death in our medical system. HH is man enough to understand where flesh really comes from, and be ok with it. I hunt for meat, not sport, and people who eat Walmart pork tell me they don't understand "how I can hunt." 'Merica is messed up.
Whether cow, fish, or a stalk of broccoli, it will die so that you may eat. As far as the dumbasses who ask how you can hunt, "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time, and it annoys the pig".
I was at a BBQ talking about hunting and this 'concerned' chicky jumps in and says "Ewww, how could you kill and eat Bambi?"
With a burger in her hand.
Sometimes it's best to just laugh, shake your head and continue your conversation.
Right! I always say if you don't kill it yourself, your a contact killer. Wait till Bambi runs out in front of her car, and we'll see how she feels.
Let's see: pink slime instead of beef, farmed fish containing hormones and antibiotics, cows that were fed brains leading to mad cow, corn-fed cattle being fed 70% of total manufactured antibiotics plus hormones, chickens raised in crates getting shat on by other chickens leading to salmonella contamination, and about one meat recall for E. coli or other contamination at least every single month for the past year...chicken nuggets containing mostly fat and innerds, deli meats with all the identical same geometric shape, color taste and weight (made from compressed processed scraps)...
Bottom line: when you eat meat today you have no idea what you're getting
Good thing I just finished dessert before opening this article...
The only image that comes to my mind when you mention pig and Walmart in the same sentence is the typical Walmart motorized scooter riding shopper.
We are a fucked up species. That's for sure.
Plenty of Oinkers on carts in Walmart.
Animals do not have the same rights that humans do.
That having been said, it is our obligation to treat livestock with a reasonable degree of care and concern for their need as living creatures not to be in distress and pain during the time they exist and grow for our benefit.
You are so proud... you are silly, man (criticizing your first sentence. Second one's good to me).