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This is What Happens to Walmart Pork Before It Reaches Your Plate

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The cruelty inherent in animal factory farming is something that we as a species should find completely and totally unacceptable. Indeed, evidence shows that when people are exposed to the nightmarish conditions faced by factory animals prior to consumption they demand change. This is precisely why corporate interests have pushed ag-gag laws throughout the nation in an attempt to criminalize the exposure of these methods.

I am sure many of you have already been exposed to videos of shocking animal cruelty before. Even if you have, the video below created by Mercy for Animals is a very important watch. It exposes unthinkable abuse of tiny, helpless pigs for absolutely no good reason. These incidents were filmed at Pipestone System’s Rosewood Farms in Pipestone, Minnesota earlier this year.

WARNING: Parts of this video are extraordinarily disturbing. While I think it is important for people to watch it and be aware, it might be too much to handle for some.

 

More from the Huffington Post:

Undercover footage that appears to show horrifying conditions at a Walmart pork supplier has prompted investigations at a Minnesota factory farm.

 

Local law enforcement executed a search warrant at Pipestone System’s Rosewood Farms in Pipestone, Minn., on Oct. 9, following a complaint filed by animal rights nonprofit Mercy for Animals. The organization says an undercover private investigator collected first-hand evidence, including video footage, of inhumane treatment of pigs raised and slaughtered at the facility.

 

The hidden-camera footage appears to show pregnant pigs confined in tiny “gestation crates,” pigs being punched and abused, and piglets being thrown on their heads and mutilated without anesthetic.

 

Matt Rice, the director of investigations at Mercy for Animals, told HuffPost the investigator — whose identity has been kept private — spent 10 weeks posing as an employee at Rosewood Farms earlier this year.

 

“Pregnant pigs are confined in tiny metal crates that are just barely big enough to hold them,” he said of the factory farm. “They’re basically immobile for their entire lives. They can’t turn around, they can’t lie down comfortably, and they suffer from large open wounds and pressure sores from rubbing against the bars.”

 

Rice calls these gestation crates — banned in the European Union and in nine U.S. states, including California, Colorado, Florida and Arizona — “one of the most cruel forms of institutionalized cruelty.”

 

Unlike more than 60 other major retailers, including Kroger, McDonald’s, Safeway,Costco and Kmart, which have all refused to work with pork suppliers that use gestation crates, Walmart has not instituted such a policy.

 

The nonprofit says it has conducted at least two dozen such undercover investigations at factory farms, dairy farms, hatcheries and slaughterhouses in recent years — three of which, including the most recent at Rosewood, were at Walmart pork suppliers.

 

“Every single time, our investigators have brought back images that would horrify most Americans,” Rice said. “This is a sign that mutilating animals without anesthesia and confining them in cages so small they can’t turn around are considered standard industry practice.”

Full article here.

 

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Wed, 11/06/2013 - 03:24 | 4125947 Deo vindice
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If readers would just pause before responding with a knee-jerk emotional response to the statement manthong expressed, they would see that what he says is indeed a fact. Animals do not possess the same rights as human beings.

This simple truth is expressed in a myriad of laws. That being said, that doesn't mean animals are to be treated with cruelty, let alone without respect for their own lives.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 04:15 | 4125988 Skateboarder
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Hmm... upon reflection I seem to find that our disagreement lies in the word rights. What is rights? God given ones? If god gave you one set of rights and the animals another one, it makes sense to me in this paradigm where motherfuckers beats little piglets to the ground that there is indeed a disconnect in the order of ecosystems. But if god gave us all the same rights, and we only played the part we were supposed to and not any further, we would be in harmony with our intended ecoystem.

p.s. I'm not religious, agnostic, or atheist.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:37 | 4126411 shovelhead
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OK

Just don't get caught eating a human. The Judge will more than likely explain the difference.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:13 | 4126558 Anusocracy
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Rights are mentalist constructs made up to manipulate and control others. Rulers made up divine rights and after a time, the masses made up rights to protect themselves from their rulers. Notice that these made up rights were almost never universal - one king's divine right to rule didn't amount to much to another king.

If you happen to find one, send it to me, I want to see what it looks like.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:02 | 4125626 ForTheWorld
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Why don't animals have the same rights that you tell yourself you have?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:11 | 4125660 tarsubil
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Why doesn't a child have the same rights that an adult has?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 03:32 | 4125958 Tall Tom
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Because they do not have the same responsiblities as an adult.

 

Understand, child?

 

We have a bunch of children posting here, Tyler.

 

You make the claim that this website was intended for MATURE Audiences.

 

It needs to be enforced.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 04:00 | 4125977 Deo vindice
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There is a difference between rights and privileges. The rights of a child and adult human being are not to be confused with a difference in their privileges and the ability to exercise those rights.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:40 | 4126423 shovelhead
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And because 5 year olds can't fight worth a damn.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:16 | 4126567 Anusocracy
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And they don't organize and lobby.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:18 | 4125679 Imminent Crucible
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Yeah, really!  Why aren't those pigs getting registered for ObamaCare? They have the same right to get a crap policy with an $8000 deductible for $900 a month as the rest of us.

Hint: the reasons animals don't have the same kinds of rights that the rest of us assert is that, basically, animals generally can't assert very well. A lot of them can't read and the average cow simply will NOT hire a lawyer.

Now, if you're willing to extend life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all carrots everywhere, then we can talk.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:17 | 4125808 SilverIsKing
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If these pigs could vote, they would be eligible for obamacare. Just another group of pigs in the FSA.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:26 | 4125820 Edmon Plume
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What makes you think they didn't vote?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 04:09 | 4125986 ForTheWorld
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Have a look at Dr Engalis response below for the point I was going to make.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:24 | 4125703 Manthong
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Aw man, if you do not believe the first sentence, you cannot ever a keep a pet captive, milk a cow, ride a horse, train a captive seeing-eye dog, train a dolphin for UDT duty, a dog for explosives sniffing or any of that stuff.

It cannot and does not work that way until some kind of ectoplasmic utopia is imposed all the living by a higher power..

But then again, maybe Obama is the one.  

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:11 | 4125659 Dr. Engali
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As an avid hunter I couldn't disagree more. Animals have just as much right to exist, live peacefully, and procreate as people do. They deserve to be treated with respect. If they are going to be used as food they deserve a clean kill to prevent any suffering. To treat animals any less is to dehumanize yourself, which is readily apparent in the video.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:22 | 4125696 Tijuana Donkey Show
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You should be gearing up in Indiana good Dr. I'll be joining you this year, and I can't wait for some fresh venison.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:29 | 4125720 Dr. Engali
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I've been out a few times already. I haven't had anything come into range, but I've had plenty of sightings. I've been stalking a good sized buck I've seen prancing around. He's a smart one though, I only seem to see him when I don't have my bow.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:43 | 4125748 Manthong
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Discretion is the better part of valor.

There are many living creatures that deserve a clean kill.

Our livestock and game are a part of that population.

The question is, what part ot the living creature population is not?

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 02:44 | 4125909 Tall Tom
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Mass Murderers, Rapists, Child Molesters, Central Bankers, Lawyers and Politicians deserve much less than a Clean Kill.

 

That is the part of the living creature population which is not.

 

Bring back Crucifixion. That is even too good for 'em.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 03:30 | 4125955 Deo vindice
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Dr. Engali says animals have the same rights as people and that animals deserve a clean kill. All life is to be respected but the original statement by manthong stands as a statement of fact - whether one agrees with its sentiment or not.

Animals and humans have different rights because they are, in fact different. Even Dr. Engali would not think it acceptable to hunt humans, but thinks it O.K. to hunt animals (the latter being something I personally agree with, btw).

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:47 | 4127256 Almost Solvent
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"hunt humans"

Happens all the time. You just have to have the force of government behind you.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:47 | 4125752 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Just wait till the rut my man, and call em in with some promises of hot deer sex. The big bucks get that way for being smart, good luck bagging him this season. I try and stack up some does, yearlings if possible, and I process them all myself. Indiana has gun season during the rut, which makes hunting interesting......

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:53 | 4125857 El Vaquero
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Just to make you jealous, I have an elk hunt coming up in about a month in the Gila.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 23:12 | 4129572 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Good luck, and make sure not to waste any! Elk is great!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:19 | 4128737 JB
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big bucks taste like shit.

 

find a nice, fat doe. no testosterone to muck up the flavor.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:26 | 4125708 Rentier
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Exactly couldn't have been said better.  Just like native Americans killed and ate animals, but they did it out of respect and need...and not for greed and sadistic pleasure which seems to be happening here.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 03:14 | 4125934 Tall Tom
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Another one in Dreamland. BULLSHIT!!! Native Americans were cruel, unmerciful and wasteful. They were no different than anybody else.

 

I really like how they hunted Bison. They used to run herds of HUNDREDS off of Cliffs. They would take as much as they could carry leaving the other Bison to suffer and die. That is real respectful and humane, pal.

 

Where in the Hell do you get this romanticized CROCK OF SHIT other than that of your TeeVee? Wake the fuck up!!!

 

FEW WRITE ABOUT REALITY!!! It is sickening. You cannot admit the dismal truth about how disgusting humanity is., how disgusting YOU ARE.

 

Take a good look in the Mirror. I have. What I see in the mirror DISGUSTS ME. I hate being Human. It is disgusting. I am living proof that abortion needs to be legal.

 

You want to wear some fantastic Rose Colored Glasses so you don't have to own up to and face your own shit!!!

 

Too bad. Welcome to Fight Club where everyone gets a chance to own up to their own shit. It is actually a catharic when you do.

 

So fucking own it.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 04:05 | 4125963 Deo vindice
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Some NA Indians practiced canibalism. Many of them practiced rites that are repugnant in the extreme. Some were wasters of resources (re: buffalo jumps), and so on.

The idea of the "noble Indian living in harmony with nature" is about as far removed from fact as is the idea of central bankers believing that fiat money is a deplorable evil to be punished with all severity.

Note to Tall Tom: if what you see in the mirror disgusts you, rather than wish you were aborted, I would encourage you seriously to take time to reflect on what needs to change within you.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 02:06 | 4125877 Edmon Plume
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Animals have a right to procreate?  That's just an apology covered in high-sounding academic blather.

To hunt is to implicitly believe human rights to exist trump those of animals.  You don't have to strut your street cred for animal rights, to be a hunter.  This is fight club.  Hunt, and those who don't like it can stick it up their pupe chute.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 05:44 | 4126047 The Abstraction...
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Any animal with two eyes in front, rather than at its sides would beg to differ.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 07:08 | 4126115 negative rates
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Let's give um a shot of heroin to go out happy.

Tue, 11/05/2013 - 23:53 | 4125602 Bay of Pigs
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Fuck me. We have reached the end. That is sickening.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:23 | 4125699 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Go look at how chickens are handled. It's even more shocking. 

Tue, 11/05/2013 - 23:55 | 4125605 SteveGennisonBa...
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Well I watched half.  And that just ruined my week.

Tue, 11/05/2013 - 23:58 | 4125613 shutdown
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This is partly why I'm nine years vegetarian and never turning back. And I'm not a phoney fish eating poser vegetarian, but zero flesh consuming and I mean none. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:04 | 4125645 HoofHearted
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I'm stealing this from another commenter earlier today, but...

You don't have to wonder if someone is a vegetarian. They'll tell you right away. Well, good for you. More bacon for me. But not from Wal-Mart. We raise our own. And those are some happy pigs out looking for acorns. They just don't know that the acorns will make them taste a whole lot better. Luckily, I know.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 14:22 | 4127701 PhysicalRealm
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More nonsense: "You don't have to wonder if someone is a vegetarian."   You could know me for years and never find out.  I drink good wine, and I'm not a health food freak -- I just don't eat dead flesh nor dead flesh products and because of people like you, I never reveal I'm vegetarian.  And for the idiot who's going to come along and say 'you just did', I'm talking about R.L. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:33 | 4125830 PhysicalRealm
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Shutdown: me too.  I've been vegetarian 40 years and I'm healthy and energetic. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 04:28 | 4126001 yofish
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Poser? You holy vegans make me sick. 

Tue, 11/05/2013 - 23:58 | 4125616 fonzannoon
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I won't watch it. Enough.

Tue, 11/05/2013 - 23:59 | 4125617 Seasmoke
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MEAT IS MURDER. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:22 | 4125697 Imminent Crucible
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GRAIN IS GENOCIDE.  Every July, millions of stalks of wheat cry out in agony and are suddenly silenced. I watched young boys cruelly ripping cherries from the trees, utterly insensible of the pain they were causing.

Sickened, I went into the house and ate a KitKat bar. At least there's nothing that used to be alive in those things.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:24 | 4125702 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Gluten is murder! 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 07:10 | 4126117 negative rates
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No but you just started a suicide pack within yourself.

Tue, 11/05/2013 - 23:59 | 4125623 Bastiat
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If you're eating meat and you care about this kind of thing, eating only organic screens out much of the cruelty.  Animals cannot survive those cinditions without being loaded with antibiotics.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:19 | 4125683 TheMeatTrapper
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Learn to Trap for Meat. I control what I trap, how I trap it, and exactly what I eat. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 05:27 | 4126034 Parrotile
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The use of common antibiotics as "growth promoters" in factory / high density animal production has other undesired effects too - a very significant contributor to the problem of antibiotic resistance.

Add in the facts that the products used are often substandard / fake (WHO review on this problem last year), and it's no wonder that we're up the proverbial creek without any paddle, where effective drugs are concerned.

As for "restrictions" on prescribing? The majority of the World's population can just buy 'em over the counter. Countries with NO prescription requirement, or LIMITED requirement include China (1.7 billion), India, Pakistan, much of South America, much of Africa, Russia, Ukraine, Afghanistan, all just for starters.

Once the effective antibiotics are no more, you can say "bye bye" to most surgery (ALL "contaminated" surgeries), transplant surgery, chemotherapy (too immunosuppressive), many immunoregulatory therapies (for management of e.g. Rheumatoid disease); TB will become a much greater problem Globally, as will many bacterial STDs, and Pneumonia will once again become "the Old Man's Friend" providing an assured "exit" from life.

This is a real problem, this is happening now, and it seems no-one is doing jack shit about it (or at least, nothing that will really help).

Don't bet on the Global Financial Collapse being the cause of your untimely demise - I'd be betting on an unstoppable CRKP or CA-MRSA variant "doing the deed" far, far sooner.

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:52 | 4127291 Almost Solvent
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The human condition is fatal

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:01 | 4125637 Hulk
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We raise forest fed hogs and pastured hens. This shit I can't bear to watch anymore, its an atrocity...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:53 | 4125766 Pareto
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Fuck +1 it is Hulk.  In my simple mind its like: treat the animals you're going to eat like shit, and they're gonna taste like shit.  All critters.  And abusing them, suggests the owner doesn't have any respect for their biology, so, doesn't understand much about the effect his abuse of the animal has on us eating it.  And even more - how do you have a meaningful business exchange with somebody who doesn't give a fuck?  There has to be some measure of empathy employed, otherwise what are we reduced to.  Anyhow, good on ya for how you're doing it.  This shit must drive you nuts.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:02 | 4125638 Stuart
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Those SOBs should be slammed into the ground like that.. .. Terrible, absolutely terrible.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:03 | 4125643 pods
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Takes a terrible mind to do that shit.

pods

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:26 | 4125710 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Or a brainwashed, I'm ok with drones, 'Merica, HFCS, Prozac, violent TV/Games, person who is completely dehumanized. I wager all of these pigs were terrorists, and they got what they deserved....

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:06 | 4125651 chump666
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F*ck the human race.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:07 | 4125652 The Heart
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Must take some pretty hairy walnuts to be able to do this kind of work.

That BLT sure took on a new perspective from here on out. Gonna miss that little piggy. Maybe HH can aid in the development of a RLT?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:12 | 4125665 Vincent Vega
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I've always hated Wal-Mart. Now I hate them more.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:15 | 4125672 wisehiney
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Even humanely treated animals used for food will experience some suffering. It is the nature of the process. But those fuckers need a good ass kicking. No excuse for such abuse.

Do not forget that many humans are subject to as bad, and worse, every day. It bothers me when people elevate animals above people. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:50 | 4125760 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Yes, in the American sickcare system. Go see what they do with 80 year old end of life pigs.....

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:57 | 4126490 shovelhead
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I elevate animals over people every day.

I could go weeks without seeing another person but I couldn't go a day without my doggie. His EROEI is off the charts.

Even the wife can have a 3 day Vegas weekend without ill effect.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:42 | 4127234 wisehiney
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Now you're giving me second thoughts.....

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:18 | 4125680 the grateful un...
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life is hard, and then you die

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:52 | 4125854 hangemhigh77
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You almost got it. Life's a bitch, then you die.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:20 | 4125689 JustObserving
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Whatever you do the least of my creatures, you do to me : God

It is a horrible crime to mistreat dumb, defenseless animals

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:37 | 4125838 Edmon Plume
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Wrong.  So wrong.  If you want to get it right, read Matthew 25 verse 40.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 03:49 | 4125972 Deo vindice
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Good for you Edmond. You are right. But for those too lazy or unwilling to look up the reference, here is what it says...

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (Mathew 25:40 KJV). As always, I recommend reading this verse in its context which would include verses 31-46.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:01 | 4126168 Bangin7GramRocks
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Look at you people! Arguing over the meaning of that silly fucking book written hundreds of years after the death of your sacred Jeebus by a king to control his sheep. 2000 years later it still works. Baaaaaaaaaa!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:23 | 4125700 tmosley
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Seems highly inefficient to have people beating piglets to death Hulk style.

Wal-mart suppliers are normally known for their extraordinary efficiency.  I would like to see the other side of the story before passing judgement.  I have a feeling that this was a small time Walmart supplier or perhaps even a former supplier or even some company that NEVER supplied Walmar, but rather that this is just a propoganda video.

Having eaten pork from Walmart--it tastes the same as that from other stores.  If cruelty leaves no impact on taste, who really gives a fuck?  We have more important things to worry about.  Worry about humans first, and animal rights will follow all on their own.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:32 | 4125726 Bastiat
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You can't taste the antibiotics but you're getting them as well as the toxins from whatever crap they are fed.  Yum.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:55 | 4125859 Trimmed Hedge
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I've been on a body-detox kick this year

Online research will separate the scammy stuff from the real stuff that actually works

I've been noticing a positive difference, even doing it on a budget.. My body is definitely healing...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:57 | 4126260 tmosley
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That's all meat everywhere, unless you are a rich bitch or raise your own.

Also, pigs are always fed slop with lots of toxins in it.  They are good at filtering that stuff out and making tasty meat out of it.

Life is cruel when you are chattel.  I care about people first.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:08 | 4125802 thisandthat
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Yep, tastes just the same - enjoy it...: http://www.scn.org/~bk269/fear.html

Btw, heard human flesh tastes really good too, so maybe you should shelve your human rights concerns as well...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:27 | 4125713 wisehiney
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Animals got rights.

To garlic and butter. 

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 03:09 | 4125939 Incubus
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Grant me legal immunity and I'd show you what kind of rights you'd have, you fucking backwater yokel.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 07:31 | 4126139 wisehiney
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Garlic and butter it is!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:41 | 4125746 stinkhammer
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walmart sucks

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:45 | 4125751 QQQBall
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I have NEVER met someone raised on a chicken ranch that will eat chicken. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:01 | 4126268 tmosley
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Huh?  I have.  Actually, I don't know anyone who has worked at one who DOESN'T eat chicken.

You sure you're not just making shit up?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:50 | 4125759 thisandthat
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This has been happening everywhere: throughout Europe (kicking, hitting cows with bats in Holland; terrorized cows, pigs not really stunned by electroshocks, while being slaughtered in France, UK), Egypt (cutting cows' Achilles tendon, making them unable to walk), Asia (you don't want to watch a video of dogs being skinned alive (and conscious), do you?) - those are just a few examples from tv and online vids.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:54 | 4125768 valkir
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Wake up folks.Do you think this is only in wallmart?Those poor pigs suffer "only"couple months.We suffer for years,dont we?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 00:57 | 4125776 Hubbs
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I am afraid this video makes an ominous prediction of what we might expect to see how we will  treat each other when the SHTF. Obvious the workers are disturbed guys. Throw the thin veneer of civilization off and he will do this to people.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:17 | 4125807 esum
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does obama squeal like a pig

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:22 | 4125817 q99x2
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I couldn't bring myself to view it but I suspect that it is one more justification for the extermination of humans.

We are star matter. Pigs is too and Pigs is smarter than cats and fido too.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:34 | 4125833 Joe A
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And all this because humans want to stuff their faces everyday and even several times per day with meat.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:35 | 4125834 ILikeBoats
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I don't shop for meat at Wal-Mart because I assume that the meat is produced by the very lowest bidder, even though Wal-Mart meat costs about the same (and sometimes more) than I pay at a regular supermarket.  Their prices on other groceries are not that great either.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:39 | 4125842 FeralSerf
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 02:06 | 4125878 Quus Ant
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That's funny, because children with higher IQs are more likely to grow up to be vegetarian. 

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201005...

Maybe it's the universe balancing itself. 

 

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 02:13 | 4125887 Carl Popper
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Hitler was a vegan.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 02:25 | 4125896 Quus Ant
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Stalin liked Westerns.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 05:41 | 4126043 The Abstraction...
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The ones with truly exceptional IQs all eat cod fish.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:19 | 4126190 Manipuflation
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Lutefisk?  I have a great recipe for it.

Ingredients:

5 lbs lutefisk

1 Star Tribune newspaper

Duct tape

 

Preparation:

Unfold Star Tribune newspaper and place lutefisk in center of opinion page.  Carefully wrap the edges of the newspaper around the lutefisk and over the top of the fish.  To make sure the seal is tight, wrap several layers of duct tape around the packing.  Place in dumpster outside of residence.  Proceed to cook anything else.

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:03 | 4126272 tmosley
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They are also more likely to be sociopaths, serial killers, and mass murderers.  What's your point?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:56 | 4127301 Quus Ant
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my point was one dumb post deserves another. 

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:40 | 4125844 Jam
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One of the most fucked up liberal states in the union, and a state I happen to reside in. Lets see if some of these idiot politicians put some teeth into some laws here. I have been an avid big and small game hunter all my life and some of this shit that goes on really bothers me.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 07:59 | 4126167 Manipuflation
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Oh come on, politics are just fine around here.  Just ask Tony Sutton,,,,err,  I meant Mike Brodkorb,,,Amy Koch?  Ooops, I meant Laura Brod...Aww shit, nevermind.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:47 | 4125851 hangemhigh77
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It's always an INDEPENDANT investigator. Where are the cops? Oh, they're out writing tickets, swat teaming grannies, and throwing kids in jail for smoking pot. Not to mention brutalizing and shooting innocent citizens. I'm sure they didn't swat team this company they only do that for dairy farmers producing raw milk. I'm sure they called them on the phone and asked them if everything was ok over there.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:11 | 4126549 drdolittle
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Hey, they care. They swat teamed that place trying to raise the orphaned fawn.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:49 | 4125852 Trimmed Hedge
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It's amazing what companies do to our food.. and then we put that shit into our bodies??

Try to eat as much organic as possible. You'll look better, feel better & your future self will thank you...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:57 | 4125864 g'kar
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The only difference between a plant cell and an animal cell is a "cell wall" and in most plants the "chloroplasts". When you kill a plant to eat it is it really any different than killing an animal for food? Sentience in plants may be on a different order than animal sentience.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 02:11 | 4125885 Carl Popper
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My grandmother would cook chicken for us but would never eat it herself after she quit raising chickens. She said she didnt like all the fat on the modern chicken and they "grow them out too fast."

I had no idea what she meant until I tasted a true free range chicken.

(not the kind that technically can leave the coop but never do. I mean the real pasture raised free range chicken)

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 02:32 | 4125906 dunce
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I will have a ham sandwich, you be quiet and eat your peas. obama has so commanded.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 02:43 | 4125918 Seal
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Go Vegan!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:54 | 4126472 therearetoomany...
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and be sure to let everyone know, every chance you get.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 02:51 | 4125924 kurt
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Spooky Truth: I co-wrote a song call "Billy Bob's Whole Hog Hot Dogs". It was a comedy song. While searching for sound effects, I used a sound effects loop which I snipped for a particular scene in the song: it was the sound of a pig screaming which was to proceed a horrible grinder sound which killed and ground the pig, hence, "whole hog".

In my sound editing software I found a snippet, which when slowed down, said in a hare-lipped voice "Can you help us!". The pig was saying en extremus CAN YOU HELP US!

Enjoy your sandwich.

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 02:55 | 4125929 devo
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Everyone should quit with the snarky comments and write Walmart about this. Torturing animals ain't funny.

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:00 | 4127318 Son of Captain Nemo
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To raise your moral sentiments further -It sure ain't.

But torturing human beings isn't funny either.  Knowing this Country PETA will have a better shot at making it stop for the pigs before we ever stop it in the Middle East through our own military or our "proxies".  FYI.

http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/18292-post-9-11-cia-and-pentagon-forced-doctors-to-become-torturers-study-charges#13835711753211&action=collapse_widget&id=9836841

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 03:50 | 4125973 giggler321
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This why I cannot wait for change to come to our society.  When the bankers blow this thing up; thinking they are just going for their next goal, will be dead wrong.  Some religions believe in reincarnation; that is just one of many questions we cannot directly answer with science today and with that in mind, like the seasons and cycles in life structures around us it would be complete stupidity to ignore without question the possibility.  Those pigs could well be a relative.  Treating any life without respect is not something I'd expect from a high up food chain animal, one that has the power of thought and creation; living in a restricted resource environment.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 06:03 | 4126012 Quinvarius
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Unexceptional Americans acting exactly like every other kind of person that would work in a concentration camp.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 05:10 | 4126021 dr_doom
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It's the consumer who decides. over here in Switzerland where I live, you have a choice for many years now, which I think comes through in the US as well now with the appearance of Whole Foods etc. There are standards to get a so called "bio" label which also includes how animals have to be raised. but it comes with a price. A standard "industry" chicken for example costs about 10 USD in the supermarket. If you are willing to pay double that price, you get a "bio" chicken which was raised respecting appropriate animal specific conditions. Of course, higher production costs translate into higher prices. and obviously, the broad mass of the consumer is not willing to pay for it. Although it would be an option to eat less meat but of better quality.... anyway, every now and then, shocking pictures such as these here pop up and everybody starts to lament. it's the hubris of the average consumer, that makes me sick.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 05:30 | 4126037 Peterus
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"when people are exposed to the nightmarish conditions faced by factory animals prior to consumption they demand change"

With this slavish attitude "the people" will accomplish nothing. Demand? Maybe go petition your politician? Sure, that will work! They'll write a law outlawing.... wait wait, isn't animal cruelty already outlawed. Oh, well, whatever it has to work it is the democratic process! So go vote better next time.

Don't demand. DO. Just never again buy factory farmed meat if you want this practice to end. Propose this solution to others. This way the real, powerful demand - not the demand of words, but the demand of actions starts working.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 05:42 | 4126045 The Abstraction...
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I can't help thinking that in a few decades those pigs will be living in relative luxury compared to the average human being.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 05:44 | 4126048 janus
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mike,

i both share and encourage your curiosity on a broad range of subjects; and i salute the tylers at the Hedge for occasionally grafting in an ancillary theme or two, even when it's not especially apropos.

and while i agree with the notion that finance and money should remain the central focus here at the Hedge, it is more than fair to say that everything (and i mean 'everything') both affects and is affected by money and finance.  and so 'it' -- whatsoever 'it' may at the time be -- is in a sense is always apropos; for whatsoever is somewhere amiss, you can be sure there is a nefarious feduciary interest tethered substanatively to it.

and though i may at some point in this post funny things up, i've approached this subject with a serious aspect, simply because there isn't anything funny about it.  as to my intent in beginning with the cosmic/holistic nature of kreiger's existential curiosity, i say such a mind is after the Unifying Theory of ALL -- the self-same thing every substanative thinker has from the very beginnings brooded over...the best minds representing many millenia have within them quarreled over the outcome.

for my part, i believe there is A God (Singular) -- He is both quantum and actual; and, more than anything -- and as a defining aspect to every element of His Being -- He is Good.  

and if we, as similarly sentient beings, have been given any single charge...or, should i say, a readily recognizable commission...it is a stewardship over the living gifts with which we have been blessed; their treatment and condition will remain an observable barometer and visible testament to our humanity and the level of godliness in our collective society.  by which i mean to say, this shit is unacceptable; and God cannot with us be pleased.

and, amorica, while your little house pets are spoiled into worthless blobs of mottled hair, you pretend that that portion on your plate is somehow detatched from a breathing being that at one time existed.  now, understand, the sin is not in the eating; but in every succeding step that plopped that homone/anti-biotic laced piece of protein on the carving dish.  we should all be ashamed of ourselves.  

the lives these beasts lead is cruel beyond all measure.

but, behold, liberty-lovers & pirates of our modern pergatorium, your instinctive revulsion at such aborrent treatment is relative to a latent recognition that we are the swine; that a new form of soft-slavery has been upon us imposed; that everything is indeed predicated on approximating our plight to that of the pigs you see being stuffed for slaughter.

if trends tell us anything, we will in no-time-flat start to envy the relatively care-free existence of our sty-wallowing cousins.  i guess, at this point, the primary difficulty comes in discerning whether those swine are democrats or republicans...hard to say; but they are, without doubt, entusiastic voters.  of this we can all be sure. 

Part II (i just arbitrarily divided this post so i could transition into other things without having to ramble my way into them)

there is, in this life of ours, a time and place for everything; right now is just such a time...stunned as you will all very soon no doubt be, i'm going to soften the blow and just rip that band-aid off...no 3 count...no warning...boom:  janus got something rediculously wrong a post or two ago; yes, far more rediculous than my consistently bastardized spelling of 'rediculous' (just looked it up; seems an 'i' is supposed to succeed the 'r' in its traditional spelling; so i wasn't too far oof...but i'll have to make note of that, anyway)...anyway, it appears that there is not a professional baseball team named the 'senators' in DC.  they call themselves the 'nationals' -- if, that is, you believe the rumors concerning such things.  nevertheless, i believe there was, at one time, a team so named...hold on, lemme consult wikipedia...

ah, yes, washington senators, 1901 to 1960...oops!  my bad.  sometimes i forget little things like time and place; but the folly of man knows no bounds and he never outgrows his purile ignorance -- every age is plagued by its own infantile idiocy.  for instance: remember when, not too long ago, doctors uniformily agreed that hyperactive children should be 'sedated' with methamphetamine?  when did we abandon that wacked-out practice anyway?...anyway,  i am at the very least happy wiser minds in 1960 prevailed; and likewise my point stands: glorifying this gaggle of senators, lil lilliputian slime-balls proceeding 2X2X2...till they number a hundred, issued fresh every olympiad and a half by thier states' befuddled & credulous hordes, only to spend all thier time donation-dialing and stuffing their portfolios in the higher of our bi-cameral houses, while they furrow their flabby jowels with churlish contempt for their constituent's interests and mawkishy hawk wars, pestilence and famine...yes, senators deserve our collective approbation, not name-saking honors. so, anyway, my apologies to the washington 'nationals'...but you still suck.

hmmmm, where was i?  ah, yes: islam, the president -- hussain obama, and what this means for you, Good Americans everywhere.  now, white america, please accept the following premise:  there are (believe it or not) Good Muslims who are, according to such, Good Americans (and if you cannot accept this as a premise, best stop reading...you'll probably at some point get a bit irate).  there is to me little doubt that hussain obama is a practicing muslim...but it is the very form and fashion of the islam he practiceth which i intend to in the following paragraphs explore.

now, ecumenical islam, before you start to yip and hollar over your serruptitious (and altogether phyrric) victory, consider first whether or not you'd approve of our commander's brand of islam...for i believe this is an issue upon which sunni/shia, catholic/protestant, orthodox/reform can all agree -- some cults should be uniformly shunned.  and the one to which this commie thug subscribes is not a function of the desire to please and serve a divine being; it is instead a calculated affront to all which he from his infancy hath loathed...namely: white, christian & middle class.  so much so that it's reasonable to conclude that the man's theological impulse is animated by raw and unbridled hatred, not philadelphian love.

obama is effectively the jim jones of islam -- a marxist socialist using faith as a foil for sinister ends while employing malevolent means.  it is yet another permutation of the hydra-headed death-cult which manifests itself in ever new and trendier forms; but the end is always the same. whether it's the red-terror slicing up the 'borguise', che guevara and his merry band of misfits chopping up 'imperialst dogs' or the kool-aid spiker himself...the ghastly end is always the blood-soaked same.

this 'uniter' is profoundly racist; infected by a flabbergasting fever of megalomania; inspired and transfixed by the blubbering screeds of washed-up leftists; averse to all that is simple and pure and honest; diffident and petulant; tempramental and impetuous; paranoid and unstable...an emblematic and archetypal cult-leader.

i get it...many of you may have some difficulty believing obama could be motivated by beliefs that are anything but altruistic...it is hard to fathom a homosexual, bred of a fluff-headed coquette for a mother and an alcoholic sub-saharan father, who was later matriculated under the watchful eye of a transgender 'nanny', while a substitute indonesian father served suharto and his mother prattled about under the auspices of the ford foundation (do some research), who was then later dropped off with his oh-so wierd-o grandparents, under the pedagogery (or, do i mean 'pederasty') of his probable bio-father (none other than mr. f. marshall davis)...sure, i understand you may have your doubts; freud himself would be impossibly flummoxed over the possibilty that one such as young master hussain could develop a hostile attitude to the society at large; and, certainly, it's wildly speculative to suggest that his chosen faith was forged amidst this steamy subtext, to be later affirmed in the arms and by the bonds of his 'special' roomie there at occidental college; only to be eventually cemented on his trek through the pakistani back country in the 80s.  crazy, i know.

obviously, this is all, again, speculative...and though i could go on enumerating the constituents composing hussain's complex psychosis, i understand that you all need substance.  i've got just the thing for ya.

the following takes place in the oval office at some point in hussain's presidency...names, dates and places have all been changed to protect the innocent slut that was at the time of the following incident panty-less, playful and big-time into heavy-petting...purrr!  

so, there we were -- the panty-less slut and janus...wait, let's back up and get 'there' first.

ZHealots, quick question: what do you say when a 22 year old white house intern asks if you want to play with the red phone?  exactly.

so, there we were, playing with the red phone.

janus: "commander, get istanbul on the phone immediately...tell them i demand they change their name back to constantanople at once!  lest i smite them with a hell-fire missle or two...do we still carry hell-fire missles?"  (i do a wicked-good obama impression, btw.)

commander on the other end: "yessir"

janus: "great! you know, when it comes to the 'hell-fire' it's not so much the payload; the death and destruction are only part of the attraction...it's more the name: 'hell-fire'; are you paying attention, soldier?"

commander...: "yessir!"

janus: "great! listen, tell you what you should do with a few of our hell-fires...(pregnant and poignant pause here)"

commander: "yessir?"

janus: "right, send a few screaming down atop the heads of our good friends in bulgaria."

commander: "yessir."

janus: that'll show em.  and when they ask for an explanation, say something like, 'i don't know, you tell me why i'd rain hell-fires atop the heads of your citizens'...you know, really fuck with their heads."

commander: "yessir!"

janus: "after all, you know how i hate the name 'sophia'...i once had a cat named sophia; i hated that cat...sophia is the capital of bulgaria.  did you know that, soldier?"

commander: "yessir!"

at this point, i had the young intern giggling up a storm...her name might've been sophia.  it was also at this point we heard the squeaking of a door hinge; and we all at once spilled beneath the desk where i extinguished my cigarette on the presidential rug -- you know, the big one with the impressive looking eagle clutching a bunch of arrows and stuff.  

they didn't notice a thing.  

'they' being hussain obama and valarie jarret.

in they stroll.  the slut and janus remain still and incognito, under the desk, my hand beneath her dress, her hand petting lil master janus, our minds rapt and attentive, soaking like sponges...this is the conversation, word for word, with only punctuation added, verifiable and iron-clad...yadda-yadda-yadda.

obama: "do i really have to take a bath?"

jarrett: "lil mahdi, we're not having this argument again..."

in the interest of moving along, i'll fast forward through twenty minutes of whining and foot-stomping.  you've never heard such a display in your lives.  right, so, moving along... 

obama: "you know who i hate?"

jarrett: "who?"

obama: "white people...that's who.  (and he here launched into the following diatribe using the same 'soaring' technique with which you're all nauseatingly familiar)  i was never happier or more fullfilled than those days in the kenyan bush, hearing my kindred explain, in graphic oral tellings, the living dreams of my father.  that some day, his seed would be shot into the staggering giant, and would from within it destroy...that a boy from raised by the white devils, educated by them, promoted without merit and passed along without ever preforming by them, would in every superficial way embody their greatest hopes for 'darkie', would be the answer to their ambitions for the african-american sub-cutulre.  but there is a black-revolutionary marxist/empowerment alinskyite pulsing under this high-yellow skin.  and it's what's within that matters.  mmmwaaahahahahaha!!!!"

we, the slut and i, were at this point spooked (and no, bigots, i don't mean 'spook' as an epithat...sheesh...though it could'a been kinda funny had i).  mighty spooked were we.

the rest of the story is like a breathless and improbable episode of 24...and i'm sorta like a filandering jack bower -- complete with a trademark glower.  winsom charm and all.  besides, it's late; and that'll just about do it for the day.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EbrMAZbFpo

to fight is to defend,

janus

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 07:11 | 4126121 negative rates
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Dude, that just took me 4 minutes to scroll by.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 07:12 | 4126124 negative rates
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Sorry pal, your goona lose, that will add up to zero in the end.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:07 | 4126282 tmosley
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Honestly, I don't think so.  BTC value will rise as currency controls are implemented around the world.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 06:29 | 4126072 Artifice
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Much better to have this shit in the open than behind gag orders. That's step 1 out of the way, time for some hard discussion about how we treat our food.

 

Bacon is great, it's fucking fantastic - but I'd rather pay a bit more to know that my Bacon-Giver was a happy little spitfuck, not some tortured meatbag.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 06:54 | 4126092 Mad Muppet
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Isn't that curious? Mass indoctrinated Sheeple eating production-line meat? why are we outraged at this, when it's only symptomatic of the cruelty Government and our corporate masters inflict on us personally day by day? We are those pigs...we are the chickens crammed into too small cages.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 06:59 | 4126099 mijev
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I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants. - author unknown.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 07:07 | 4126114 22winmag
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Animal cruelty is a symptom, not a disease.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 07:11 | 4126119 Dane17
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I really don't care how walmart treats its farm hogs as long as it's non hazardous to humans.

Those hogs exist for the single purpose to be consumed.
Are they supposed to be raised like house pets?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:15 | 4126315 Mi Naem
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Not all hazards are mechanical, chemical or radiological. 

Moral hazards can redefine who we are and what we are to become.  If you don't believe me, look at our economy and our culture for abundant evidence. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 07:32 | 4126140 paint it red ca...
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If you liked that you should learn how corporate chicken is raised from 3 day old chicks to short legged, fat breasted oddities in just under 5 weeks. Hell, I can't raise a ripe tomato in 5 weeks so what are chicks being fed in cramped inhumane conditions?

People's indifference to what they eat and how it is produced amazes me more than their indifference to being gamed by corrupt, do as thou wilt elite and their treasonous politician lapdogs. If you made a pile of dog poo resemble an ear of corn you could sell it in a chain restaurant, nobody would even ask.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 07:55 | 4126159 TheDoc
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Tyler's gone PETA? Embarassing. This crap does not cause me to recommend this site.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:12 | 4126302 Mi Naem
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PETA assumes that animals have rights comparable to that of humans.  I do not assume any such thing and see no reason to believe that Mike @ libertyblitzkrieg or the Tylers do either. 

The point is not what rights do the creatures have, it is what responsibilities do we have as the stewards of sentient creatures. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:16 | 4126186 Evil Franklin
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This is a slam piece against Wal-Mart.

Wal-Mart may buy the products from farms such as the one pictured in the video, but that does not mean that they own or operate the farms.  They purchase the protein products just as other chain stores. 

If you want to see food riots close these places down.  The prices will skyrocket and customers that Wal-Mart service will find their SNAP cards not only reduced in value by the government, but unable to buy pork and beef and chicken due to the prices of meat.

Also, don't forget that these farms are regulated fy the FDA.  The FDA probably colludes with the agra businesses.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:18 | 4126187 deerhunter
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I have been a hunter all my life.  I also worked on dairy farms growing up in the 70's.  I worked on a kill floor in a beef slaugter house as a summer job in college one year.  I wrote a comparison theme titled Feedlot or Forest.  I compared a beef cow to a whitetail deer from birth to death.  One in the woods and one in my old place of employment.  Farmers on small family farms did not mistreat their livestock,  it was there (forgive me) bread and butter.  If we wish to return to America 1850s and all raise our own food we are sorely misinformed.  It is work, hard work to grow and/or raise your own food.  We have become a lazy nation.  A fat nation.  A nation who has grown accustomed to being taken care of by someone else.  There is no vision in this land.  There is a sore lack of leadership.  There is a serious dearth of morals and ethics.  We can't have an adult discussion on hardly any topic without offending someone.  I have news for everyone.  The world doesn't run on feelings.  Don't buy pork. Don't buy meat.  Buy a bow and some arrows.  Learn to shoot it well.  The kill zone on a deer is about the size of your dinner plate if you want an ethical kill shot.  Spend on average twenty mornings or afternoons in the woods or several all day in a tree stand in all types of weather.  When you kill it you can then gut it.  It is a bit bloody and smelly,  it is the nature of things.  If it is warm weather you have a couple choices.  You can put a few bags of ice inside the body cavity and cool it off quickly while you decide whether to pay someone 100 dollars to cut it up or cut it up yourself.  Since you don't have a walk in cooler unless you own a restaurant or meat market you need to drag the deer out of the woods and take it home and skin it and cut it up yourself.  Oh?  You don't have a band saw?  Meat saw?  Hope you know where the main joints are so you can cut it into manageable pieces.  No grinder for the smal bits?  Too bad.  While you are searching on the internet I hope you have already learned efficient knife skills and have a good boning knife.  Have any freezer wrap?  I think you get my drift by now.  I have never mistreated an animal by choice.  Have I shot poorly and not found a wounded deer?  Yes.  In 44 years of hunting I have lost three deer.  One in a blizzard and I could not follow the blood trail and two in rain where i could not follow the blood trail.  We cannot feed ourselves.  We don't have the land and/or expertise.  We can through the power of the purse choose where we spend our money.  Men or women working with animals and mistreat them should be punished.  It is sick and sadistic. Watching Little House on the Praire doessn't make you a farmer and self sufficient any more than driving through Burger King makes you a Whopper.  My ranting is done,  forgive me.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:36 | 4126228 Manipuflation
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 I liked your rant.  I lost track after 50 deer killed.  Over the years there is one thing that I still hate though and that is the pelvis breaking thing.  I would love to see some of the feminist bookstore crowd here give that a go.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:17 | 4126573 drdolittle
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My dad farms cattle and treats them like gold. They're never mistreated. It's a lot different when they're yours and you watch them grow up, see that they have personalities etc.

Pigs are smart, this is crazy sick. they also tether sows in some states

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:45 | 4126701 Bryan
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Thanks for stating the ethical side of hunting.  I took up deer hunting about 7 years ago at age 45 and am still learning.  It's very difficult and some work with a bow to take down a deer, even at close range.  But the satisfaction at going out to get your own food, hunting it, dressing it, butchering it and preparing it is very satisfying.  I hope I can get better an shooting with a bow... I have been hitting them high lately and I do not like wounding animals, although I did get one two days ago and it dropped in 30 yds.  I'll be butchering it myself tonight.

I just bought a Rem 870 Express for deer hunting this Fall as well, and will be using that during gun season.  I also got it for home defense if the SHTF.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:21 | 4126193 CoastalCowboy
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Walmart leading the race to the bottom for well over 30 years.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:24 | 4126200 Incubus
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3 meals a day as a necessity is a fiction.

We've evolved over harsher times, and our bodies are optimized for storing energy efficiently and using it over considerable hours of fasting. 

If you graze all day, or eat "three meals a day" and aren't doing demanding physical work, you're going to end up looking like a cow, or pig in the long run.

 

It's all in the mind.  Frequent eating is "profitable," but it isn't optimal unless you're raising livestock for slaughter, or you want a doped up, fat and happy population.

 

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:30 | 4126215 spinone
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Did any of you people ever live or work on a farm>  I did.  These things are bad, but its all a matter of degree.  Farming animals is cruel.  If you dont like it dont eat meat.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:33 | 4126221 Mi Naem
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What you saw in this video is by no means limited to Walmart, nor to pigs - pardon the redundancy. 

This is standard procedure in factory farming of living creatures that supplies virtually all stores. 

I prefer to avoid hiring others to do to my food what I would be unwilling to do myself. 

If you feel similarly, visit http://www.certifiedhumane.org/ which has the most comprehensive standards and verified producer compliance. 

You can see their standards here http://www.certifiedhumane.org/index.php?page=standards

and you can see options to acquire humanely raised and handled product here http://www.certifiedhumane.org/index.php?page=producers-products

Support family farm operations that assure you of their commitment to quality, sustainability, and humane treatment of their sentient creatures. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:36 | 4126229 azengrcat
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Pigs will eat you given the chance.  Don't feel bad when you eat bacon.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:59 | 4126271 Mi Naem
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Translation: "Don't hold yourself to a higher standard of moral judgement than that of a pig. "

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:23 | 4126343 vxpatel
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Have you ever had an original thought?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:44 | 4126240 Manipuflation
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I have lived in southern Minnesota, not far from the Dakota Territory and on the wrong side of four hog farms.  Smells almost as bad as a major metro area anywhere in the world.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 08:51 | 4126250 deerhunter
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Manpuflation,  The pelvis breaking thing can be done away with just cutting around the orifice you speak of removing and tying it off.  Cut around carefully and pull out from inside.  There is a new gadget out there called the Butt Out.  Plastic t handled stick you insert and twist and remove said butt.  Son in law has used them and likes them.  Do you bow hunt?  I am in the woods tomorrow hoping for cold weather.  Lots of scrapes active but no day time chasing yet.  I am in the NW burbs of Chicago but I hunt legally ten minutes from the house with a bow of course.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:31 | 4126369 Manipuflation
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Yes, I have heard if this but I am old school and use my Dallas Cutlery Stainless knife to crack the pelvis.  I have gutted a lot of deer.  More than I ever shot.  Kids you know.  It's like jeebus fucking crisp you shot the fucking thing now deal with it.  Most of that generation does not even want to hunt anymore.  They say they do but I was able to sneak up on my nephew in the stand and what what was he doing?  TEXTING!!!  I took the phone away from him.  I mean...WTF? 

As for the pelvis, I have an awesome knife and it is sharper than most fillet knives because I know how to make a knife that sharp.  I just let the blade do the work and then I find that spot where the bone fused together.  Tip down, right on that fused joint, one or two good whacks and it's cracked.  Then I will stand on the hind legs to crack it more to give me some space to work and out it comes.

I have hunted with bow and stuck one but I use a rifle usually.  Bow hunting is truer hunting in a way but I do not have the time.  I handload all of my own hunting ammo which is a lost art in and of itself and I have some very neat tools to do so.  I do not buy cheap dies.  Every round I build is custom built and headspaced to a specific rifle.  To me this matters.   

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:06 | 4126280 ThisIsBob
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Its terrible how they treat animals, but have you seen what they do to an ear of corn?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:42 | 4126427 paint it red ca...
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Who actually thinks explosion of wheat gluten allergies has nothing to do the the variety of wheat developed for commercial convenience?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:22 | 4126335 vxpatel
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The Walton family needs to be put in a gestation crates. They are the problem of america.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:22 | 4126338 quasimodo
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As someome who lives in one of the top pork producing counties in my state, I know for a fact this goes on elsewhere as well. No, it's not typical--most farmers and workers do actually care about how they treat the animals even when they raise them by the thousands. Pipestone is just up the road from me, but it's an area with a different mindset. Here where I live consists of mainly Dutch conservative folks who consider it more of a mandate to treat all animals with a certain degree of compassion. Again, it's not that all farmers here are that way or all the farms up in southern MN are as protrayed in the video.

Do they stop to scratch them on the head? Not often, but this video kind of makes one assume that ALL the pork you eat is raised this way. I can tell you that those crates are really old and much smaller than what they use now. I am guessing that building is 10 years old or more.

That being said, they are still all clipped and castrated(males). Ever had pork from a boar that was not castrated? Tastes like dogshit, this is why they do that. And yes they are all given antibiotics, fed GMO corn rations with other stuff.

We don't eat a ton of pork but only eat pasture raised Berkshire, raised humanely and never given any drugs,etc. 

It tastes amazing and contains more of the healthy fats, etc. 

Those commercials from Walmart where they give folks at these five star eateries meat from Walmart just make me laugh. If they only knew what the hell they just injested,lol.

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:30 | 4126373 d_7878
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Please send a note to Walmart at:

https://walmartethics.com/home.aspx?LangType=1033

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:44 | 4126440 d_7878
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ethics@wal-mart.com

Tell Walmart what you think

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:47 | 4126450 Son of Captain Nemo
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Are we really shocked?

It's "Camp Buca", "Guantanamo" and "Abu Ghraib" for pigs! 

Wonder if the veterinarians that are abusing them took the same hippocratic oath our military physicians have taken in collecting a paycheck in the wars of choice?

http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/18292-post-9-11-cia-and-pentagon-forced-doctors-to-become-torturers-study-charges#13835711753211&action=collapse_widget&id=9836841

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:34 | 4126924 vxpatel
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indeed....we are what we eat, our consciousness is what we consume....

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:55 | 4126478 Duude
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Source is the Huffington Post? LOL  I like the PETA/Walmart tie-ins. Doesn't matter how many nationwide grocery stores may use the same supplier, Walmart is the target.  As for PETA, they'd rather we all eat soy.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 09:59 | 4126499 d_7878
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Sign this petition:

http://www.walmartcruelty.com/

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!