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Obamacare Queen Sebelius Faces HTTP 404 Error Again, This Time In The Senate - Live Webcast

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HHS Secretary Sebelius faces up to the self-described "debacle" that is Obamacare in fron the The Senate Finance Committee this morning. We should expect much "mid-November"-ing as the new replacement for "plead da fif."

 

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Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:33 | 4126914 RacerX
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the smugness of these assholes is unbelievable.

and "The Honorable" sebelius? You're kidding me right?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:35 | 4126927 RSloane
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There should be a national Gasbaggery Award. She would win it hands down. Its pretty funny to see her raise her chin answering questions as if she's some martyr being oh so brave.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:38 | 4126942 tsx500
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suck it Kathleen !

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:46 | 4126973 hedgeless_horseman
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Kathleen, what percentage of Obamacare was written by the health insurance lobby? 

Is it true that it is more than 70%?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:47 | 4126984 Muddy1
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@RSloane,

I noticed, like her boss, Sebelius always has her chin up.  I take it as a way for her to look down her nose at we the peasants.

And a big no thanks to the people of Kansas for electing her as governor and paving the way for her to have this cabinet level position.  I'm embarassed to admit I once lived in KS.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:03 | 4127004 hedgeless_horseman
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Kathleen, explain why United Health is up 225%+ since Obamacare, when the S&P500 is only up 101%?

Is it true, Kathleen, that Obamacare does for health insurers EXACTLY what the Federal Reserve Act did for banks in 1913?

  1. Guarantee profits
  2. Eliminate competition
  3. Bigger market for the product

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:15 | 4127099 Jay Gould Esq.
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Hear, hear.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:21 | 4127125 12ToothAssassin
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Looks like that bitch has aged 20 years in the last month

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 15:39 | 4128014 Truthseeker2
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...

One headline read:

Obamacare: The Most Flawed Legislation In US History

Here's another:

Obamacare: Ongoing Disaster With No End In Sight

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=2294

...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:34 | 4127005 AlaricBalth
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Perhaps Kathleen Sebelius could enlighten the committee concerning her Executive Branch Public Financial Disclosure Reports. There are a couple of Promissory Notes from Kaw Valley Bank in Topeka which have been getting accrued and rolled over for years.  The president of Kaw Valley Bank, Gerald Lauber, is a political crony of Sebelius, whom she named to a Kansas Commission a few years ago, along with Doug Sebelius, a close relative of her husband.

The largest Note ($250,000-$500,000) just received an extension until 2022, when she will be 74 years old. Also, by the looks of the signatures and dates of the chain of reviewers, 2011 and 2010 disclosures were actually reviewed and signed on the same day.  Knowing Mrs Sebelius's penchant for obfuscating her public disclosures from her days in Kansas, it is highly probable that there are issues on these federal disclosures  as well.

http://www.oge.gov/DisplayTemplates/201_Form/FilerDetail.aspx?id=6442454311

http://kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/KDWPT-Info/News/News-Archive/2005-Weekly-N...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:55 | 4127013 Stoploss
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Oh, i took it as the way she controls the spillage, can't mees up that dress now can we?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:08 | 4127071 RSloane
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That is all very true Muddy.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:48 | 4126985 Buckaroo Banzai
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This whole thing is turning into, "You're fucking us in the ass wrong!! When are you going to start fucking us in the ass correctly??"

WHAT ARE THOSE FUCKING REPUBLICANS DOING ABOUT ENDING THIS PIECE OF SHIT OBAMACARE ONCE AND FOR ALL?

AND HOW ABOUT IMPEACHING THESE DIRTY LYING FUCKS WHILE YOU'RE AT IT??

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:56 | 4127021 KHarper
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When are you going to start fucking us in the ass correctly??"

I haven't logged in here in years, however, just HAD to when I saw your comment. My sentiments exactly Sir, well said. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:03 | 4127332 Jena
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This makes for fascinating reading: http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/LMI-Meeting-Notes-October-2013.pdf

 

The War Room for the month of October, dealing with the Obamacare website.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:54 | 4127577 ElvisDog
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Why would the Republicans want to end Obamacare? It's the gift that keeps on giving right up to November, 2014 and beyond......

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 14:29 | 4127740 Things that go bump
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Even if they ended it, it has been my experience that the price of such things never goes down, only up. The raise in insurance rates is here to stay and we are well and truly screwed - it only gets worse from here until the whole thing collapses because no one is going to buy it if the choice is between medical insurance and eating. A friend of ours who is a neurologist is planning on moving to Brazil, though he is dithering about how to get his funds out. It may, for people such as he, come down to cutting your losses. Such people are welcome anywhere they choose to go.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:15 | 4127079 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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More telling is how they are spending as far as the upcoming 2014 elections are concerned.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/industry.php?txt=H03&cycle=2014

It is almost 75% more in Republican's favor so far.

Follow the fucking money. The insurance companies have paid their way in and the are going to use their money to hold their grip on the system to pervert it anyways they want as long as it is in their favor.

The system is bought and sold and the only way it stops is the credit party is brought to a halt since that distortion is feeding this or the guillotines are rolled in and heads start rolling.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:23 | 4127131 hedgeless_horseman
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how they are spending as far as the upcoming 2014 elections are concerned.

Well, at least somebody is paying attention!  That makes at least two of us in addition to the saints at Open Secrets.  God bless them.

...the only way it stops is the credit party is brought to a halt...

At this point, is it not less of a credit party, and more of a counterfeiting operation?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:51 | 4127181 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Depends who gets to make the rules. One man's toilet paper is another man's money. The real capital is people and their labor and brains. Anything else is just a pre-agreed upon store of excess perceived value of those.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:19 | 4127149 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And more telling the overall health industry on the Federal level. It is a big divide between the parties in the Republican's favor.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/sector.php?txt=H03&cycle=2014

And to back that up lets look at government welfare queens #2 the Finance industry.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/sector.php?txt=F&cycle=2014

 

Follow the fucking money since it the thing these assholes worship more than anything else and it is the juice they use to keep backdoor control on the system.

Infact as far as follow the money goes guess which 2 industries are the only ones there donating more the Republicans than Democrats as far as the 2014 cycle goes.

You guessed it Labor and Lawyers & Lobbyists.

The Lawyers & Lobbyists pay accordingly after the winners are decided not before their spending reflects that right now. It will flip if the balance of power flips. Labor well no surprises there.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:28 | 4127162 Hobbleknee
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Yes, 100% is more than 70%.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:32 | 4127454 2bit Hoarder
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who else could come up with a law requiring them to cover (and charge for) maternity care for a 70 year old man?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:46 | 4126978 Deo vindice
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Something a lot of people don't consider about pathological liars: they believe their own fables they have constructed and their lie becomes their truth.

Speaking the truth to each other, (which involves living truthfully), is the basis of all functioning relationships from parent-child, husband-wife, friend-to-friend, business, politics, and so on.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:41 | 4127228 Hippocratic Oaf
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She'll do a corzine: Former gov, works outside for big gov and big bank. Takes the money, takes the fall and walks away wealthy with only the burden of a bad reputation.

WINNING!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:50 | 4126992 Sudden Debt
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THIS IS A ORIGINAL  WAY TO GET YOUR ANGER OUT!!!

https://twitter.com/jonanperrea/status/307464597005291521

WRITE THE TRUTH ON A MONEYBILL!!!

IT KEEPS IT VALUE AND IT GET HANDED DOWN TO HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE!!!

FUCK YOU OBAMA ON A DOLLAR BILL IS A GOOD START! BUT WRITE A BIT MORE!!

"DID YOU KNOW BANKS JUST CREATE MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR?"

STUFF LIKE THAT!!!

GO AHEAD!!!

SPREAD IT ARROUND!!!

TRICKLE DOWN THE TRUTH WITH THEIR FIAT!!!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:03 | 4127046 mofreedom
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That is cool.  Thanks for sharing.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:18 | 4127109 Shrapnel
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Awesome, it's like counter-propaganda that also lets other frustrated citizens/dissenters know they are not alone.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:35 | 4126928 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Once one or 2 heads explode into a ball of red mist those smug expressions will leave their mugs real fast. Until there are consequences for corruption besides allowing it so it can be used as a piggy bank to pay for government, nothing changes and these assholes keep rubbing our faces in it. The justice system in this country has been compromised and now you are seeing the results of it aka a breakdown of contract law since one counterparty can run ramshod all over the contract and gets away with it while the other counterparty don't do shit and the mediater aka the justice system don't do shit because it has been compromised by the counterparty running ramshod in the first place.

 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:37 | 4126939 WarHorse
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Fuck Sebelius, Obama, Reid, Pelosi ... they are one in the same ... a pox on their house

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:42 | 4126963 RSloane
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Unfortunately they're part of the pox on all our houses.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:47 | 4126983 James-Morrison
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We have been assimilated.
Resistance is futile.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:43 | 4126968 tarsubil
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The smug grins are just masks. I assure you Kathleen is not happy. Look at the still photo of her. If you poked her, you'd probably discover she is just a dried shell of brittle skin with dust inside. This really is just a play and the smoke rising from the stage is not part of the act. Just wait until the actors start to realize the house is on fire.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 14:29 | 4127739 Emergency Ward
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Remember, all the zombie movies say you gotta get 'em in the head.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:52 | 4127000 duo
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when a terminal cancer patient can't get treatment anymore and has nothing to lose, he/she will lose it.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:39 | 4126949 Headbanger
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But her smugness is actually serving a good purpose as it will help Obamacare to fail and she will go away.

And I think she knows it so she doesn't care how she comes off and she knows she is being paid only to be the punching bag for Obamacare.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:06 | 4127062 Chaos_Theory
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She'll go away and become a UNH lobbyist...err, I mean "legislative consultant" earning $750K annual salary. 

Griftin' is hard damn work.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:41 | 4126960 Dr. Engali
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Once I've  seen "the honorable Corzine" after what he pulled , nothing surprises me.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:47 | 4126982 RSloane
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She's just another moron who created all of this fucktwitian nightmare while carefully making sure they can opt out. Congress, the president....all of them should be forced to use Obamacare. The fact that they don't have to yet impose it on millions of people is partially why this entire event is so sickening.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:52 | 4127002 SkottFree
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So tell me Queen Sebelius did you hire the same useless POS to fix the web sit they totall F'd-UP in the firest place to fix their own F'up. Just how stupid can one person be?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:19 | 4127114 TeamDepends
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Yeah, just like Fed (who got us here) is going to lead us out of the debtnado.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:46 | 4128608 JB
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all according to their satanic plan...

 

http://jahtruth.net/illumin.htm#Protocols Proof

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:31 | 4126915 ServingMyKing
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Looks like a corpse.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:38 | 4126944 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Well she is wearing the Blue Jacket of Death!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:33 | 4126919 TeamDepends
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Off with her head!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:35 | 4126929 B2u
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Is she a transvestite?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:37 | 4126937 falak pema
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she looks like she is ready for the Cross as nobody wants her to give them a blown kiss of Obamacare bliss.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:49 | 4126989 RSloane
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Doesn't she just? So brave.....so courageous.....while she sits on her lying ass knowing she doesn't have to use the nightmare she helped create.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:37 | 4126938 OMG
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I'd hit it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

With a nuke from space it's the only way to be sure!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:44 | 4126975 TeamDepends
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Fuckin' A!  Also, how do I get out of this chickenshit outfit?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:21 | 4127126 Shrapnel
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"I say we grease this rat fuck son of a bitch right now!"

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:39 | 4126952 Azannoth
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Welcome to Software Development! Bitch

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:49 | 4126995 Buckaroo Banzai
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But doing real work in the real world is HAAAAAARRRDDD!! WAAAAHHHHH!!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:41 | 4126958 SandiaMan
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Now I know how you get the name plate with HONORABLE.

You have to steal over 500 million to get the name plate with HONORABLE

MS. Honorable Sebilius

Mr. Honorable Corzine

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:54 | 4127011 Richard III
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'Tis no honour amongst thieves, nor government ministers.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:45 | 4126976 replaceme
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None of these hearings / briefings ever make me feel better. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:46 | 4126979 youngman
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It is amazing to me that they can sit there and talk about how bad Obamacare is..when they have their own cushy plan of their own.....

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:49 | 4126990 Carl Popper
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This would be funny if it were happenning to another country.

Next come less subtle capital controls and shortages in all the hospitals like in Venezuela.

First toilet paper shortages now healthcare is in complete taters. In venezuela the ten percent of the heakthcare industry that is private is taking care of 50 percent of the needs. The government clinics/hospitals are 90 percent of the industry and are working as expected with the typical efficiency of a protected class of government employees.

Anything for "social solidarity" lol.

The reason Ayn Rand could write In such vivid detail is because this exact same scene has played out many times before and always has the same ending.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:49 | 4126993 g'kar
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Another dog and pony show for the masses...nothing will happen from this....move on to the immigration dog and pony show

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:50 | 4126996 ebworthen
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More theater!

Well, I may as well watch the play since I'm paying for it.

Is this "the Scottish Play", "Julius Caesar", or "The Tempest" (Reader's Digest versions)?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:52 | 4127001 replaceme
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Mme Skeletor, will women be killed for sport under the ACA?  No.  Very nice, will women still be hunted on Federal land?  No.  Thank you, I have no more questions.  One more thing, Mme Skeletor .... Love the jacket.

Is she wearing a German Volleyball pin, Team Ubersports??

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:57 | 4127022 ebworthen
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Count Dracula's family crest probably.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:52 | 4127003 climber
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The link is wrong, you put on the home run derby.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:53 | 4127006 RiverDrifter
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Oh for crissakes, DEBBIE STABENOW is there on this committee?  WTF, where I was convinced we were screwed, now I'm absolutely POSITIVE!  There's a reason people here in Michigan call her Debbie SPEND-IT-NOW....worst Senator in terms of fiscal responsibility that we've ever had.

If it wasn't for the FSA, Spend-it-now wouldn't even have a freakin' job.  

 

This here is a circus where the game is to choose between what is outright bullshit, what are blatant lies and exaggerations by the D's on this committee to toe the company line and take it easy on Queen Sebelius.  

 

We doomed.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:55 | 4127018 Pairadimes
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As the supply of bread declines, the demand for circuses will increase.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:58 | 4127024 Reaper
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She's a woman. She cares. Obama cares. She isn't under oath, so she's protected from embarrassment by taking the fifth. Besides, if she's asked a substantive question, she'd knowingly be able to claim ignorance. Judge her not on her acts, but on her sex and compassion. What are she and Obama, but painted figureheads guarding an underlying den of thieves.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:58 | 4127027 Trimmed Hedge
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Mr. Crap-o?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:08 | 4127069 Trimmed Hedge
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I think the fat guy in glasses behind her will be the one to faint today...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:43 | 4127112 MedicalQuack
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Here we go again big problem is the 834...wrote about this and the technologies used...

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/11/fixing-hipaa-compliant-834-insura...

I actually read the 175 pages Issa received...sad.  After reading and seeing the notes, we have an engineering nightmare.  Way too many technologies on the website.  Again turnkey integrated products with Oracle and Microsoft were available. 

Digital illiterates discussing technology early the the morning...once again...

Even more interesting is the security breach...same government agency that issues the rules on this has their own breach...

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/11/security-breach-on-healthcare.html

Like I said in 2009, Sebelius is no competition to the business intelligence algorithms used by the insurance companies.  They could do things differently in informing consumers on the cancellations, and again it's not a winner at all when the fact that they sold bare bones policies so easier to totally blame government there.  They sold those policies...

And guess what, poor folks in the UK...with the NHS...hring a United Health Care Executive to run it...they are using Plan B since plan A didn't work there...

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/11/united-healthcare-executive-to-le...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:19 | 4127113 FubarNation
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My bet is that Kathy gets a promotion by Obama pretty quick.

This monkey show is a joke.  Dem Sens singing praises and Repubs busting balls. 

 

What a surprise.  We are so fucked.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:19 | 4127117 ebworthen
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So a Federally mandated purchase of private insurance is not a monopoly?

TWIT!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:43 | 4127509 MeelionDollerBogus
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With several ruling insurance companies:
Fascist oligarchy.
With 1: monopoly.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:33 | 4127175 monad
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I knew I'd seen her before. Here

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:37 | 4127208 Debt Slave
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Isn't she the one who said she was responsible for a $390 million dollar website that doesn't work? If she's responsible, why is she still working there?

It looks like "responsible" has a new meaning in government. "Responsible" means 'Okay yeah so I screwed up so what?' and she gets a pay raise when the rest of us out here would be shit-canned in a heartbeat.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:49 | 4127272 ebworthen
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Lois Lerner enjoying a bagel with lox and a mimosa while watching this in Florida drawing $187K/year at taxpayer expense.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:51 | 4127282 Debt Slave
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Yeah I've noticed that it's very nice to be born into the privileged class.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 16:10 | 4128133 Chaos_Theory
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Oh I am sure Chelsea Clinton earned via merit her acceptance into Oxford, her consulting gig with McKinsey & Co, her position in Avenue Capital, her correspondent position with NBC, her co-chair spot on the Clinton Foundation, etc.  Pure Neo-Platonic merit. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:45 | 4127247 Fix It Again Timmy
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Well, as long as most people believe government is a "global force for good", they will continue to sling shit in our faces while trying not to die from laughing....

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:53 | 4127294 SandiaMan
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Navigators can be FELONS. No background checks. See  where this is going?  I would bet the prisons will handle all calls and this is the liberal way of well we told you.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:37 | 4127480 F.A. Hayek
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Call 1-800-FU K-YOU and a friendly member of our staff will be glad to assist you.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:28 | 4127435 superflex
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Cunt!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:40 | 4127492 kchrisc
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The troubling thing about this piece of shit and all the rest is that she is "blessed if she does and blessed if she doesn't." Meaning that even if she is 'fired' she'll just end up working as a high paid 'consultant' for one of the insurance firms.

And I love these Congressional dog and pony shows they stage for the sheeple. They have treasonous criminals asking questions of treasonous criminals.

"Just what the guillotine was made for."

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:46 | 4127531 RubberJohnny
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So.

When does she start taking her clothes off?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 14:51 | 4127846 The Continental
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What did we expect from this empty suit fraud? She's almost as bad as her boss, a total fraud and liar. Watch this, then weep for America:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy2K5SIuK2E&feature=player_embedded

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 14:55 | 4127860 AustrianJim
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Maybe the US government should abandon communism.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 15:43 | 4128024 WelfareFTW
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Saner voices need to prevail. Check out my first contribution to accredited-times. I can only hope to one day match the great MDB.

http://accredited-times.com/2013/11/06/obamacare-civilizing-our-society/

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 16:15 | 4128153 Chaos_Theory
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So, anyone else notice "why the long face" jokes we use for Kerry can easily apply to Succubus? 

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