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Palestinian Leader Yasser Arafat Was Assasinated With Radioactove Polonium, Tests Show
And so another conspiracy theory, that Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was poisoned with Polonium, becomes non-conspiracy fact. From Reuters:
Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was poisoned to death in 2004 with radioactive polonium, his widow Suha said on Wednesday after receiving the results of Swiss forensic tests on her husband's corpse.
"We are revealing a real crime, a political assassination," she told Reuters in Paris.
A team of experts, including from Lausanne University Hospital's Institute of Radiation Physics, opened Arafat's grave in the West Bank city of Ramallah last November, and took samples from his body to seek evidence of alleged poisoning. "This has confirmed all our doubts," said Suha Arafat, who met members of the Swiss forensic team in Geneva on Tuesday. "It is scientifically proved that he didn't die a natural death and we have scientific proof that this man was killed."
She did not accuse any country or person, and acknowledged that the historic leader of the Palestine Liberation Organization had many enemies. Arafat signed the 1993 Oslo interim peace accords with Israel and led a subsequent uprising after the failure of talks in 2000 on a comprehensive agreement.
Allegations of foul play surfaced immediately. Arafat had foes among his own people, but many Palestinians pointed the finger at Israel, which had besieged him in his Ramallah headquarters for the final two and a half years of his life.
The Israeli government has denied any role in his death, noting that he was 75 years old and had an unhealthy lifestyle.
An investigation by the Qatar-based Al Jazeera television news channel first reported last year that traces of polonium-210 were found on personal effects of Arafat given to his widow by the French military hospital where he died.
That led French prosecutors to open an investigation for suspected murder in August 2012 at the request of Suha Arafat. Forensic experts from Switzerland, Russia and France all took samples from his corpse for testing after the Palestinian Authority agreed to open his mausoleum.
"SMOKING GUN"
The head of the Russian forensics institute, Vladimir Uiba, was quoted by the Interfax news agency last month as saying no trace of polonium had been found on the body specimens examined in Moscow, but his Federal Medico-Biological Agency later denied he had made any official comment on its findings.
The French pathologists have not reported their conclusions publicly, nor have their findings been shared with Suha Arafat's legal team. A spokeswoman for the French prosecutor's office said the investigating magistrats had received no expert reports so far.
One of her lawyers said the Swiss institute's report, commissioned by Al Jazeera, would be translated from English into French and handed over to the three magistrates in the Paris suburb of Nanterre who are investigating the case.
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The Al Jazeera investigation was spearheaded by investigative journalist Clayton Swisher, a former U.S. Secret Service bodyguard who became friendly with Arafat and was suspicious of the manner of his death.
Hani al-Hassan, a former aide, said in 2003 that he had witnessed 13 assassination attempts on Arafat's life, dating back to his years on the run as PLO leader. Arafat claimed to have survived 40 attempts on his life.
Now... whoever may have wanted the leader of the Palestinians dead?
He escaped another attempt on his life when Israeli warplanes came close to killing him during the invasion of Beirut when they hit one of the buildings they suspected he was using as his headquarters but he was not there. In December 2001, Arafat was rushed to safety just before Israeli helicopters bombarded his compound in Ramallah with rockets.
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I blame ZH for giving me a glimpse of the truth and severe depression for the past 4 years.
Carry on Tyler, I can take it.
Drink early, and often.
I was reading about this in “Who Gives A Fuck – Magazine”.
Is that also known as The Zion Times?
I am confused.
Polonium is a chemical weapon.
Obama says the use of chemical weapons is evil and necessitates regime change.
However, for the record, Israel uses the chemical weapon, White Phosphorus, on children, so polonium is probably ok, too?
This
girl was killed by the IDF when they used white phosphorous munitions
during their bombing of Gaza. It ate through her skull and brain.
Look. The Israelis have their own things to answer for. That said, I for one would also like to see some pictures of the boys Arafat couldn't rape any more because he was dead. But in fairness those probably aren't published anywhere.
I'm having a slight problem with your equivalence here.
And, by the way, nice misdirection.
Americans are fucking idiots. After listening to the first 3 minutes of this interview, most Americans still will not even think to question why 12 years later we are involved in the longest war in American history, having invaded Afghanistan because a bunch of Saudi Arabians allegedly flew jets into two NY office buildings (recently double insured) owned by a Jew, and three of the buildings were destroyed.*
*Hint: We did not invade a soverign nation, Afghanistan, and are still occupying it after more than 12 years, because a now deceased Saudi Arabian
was hiding there. Did we invade Pakistan when this very same Saudi
Arabian was allegedly hiding out there? No. That wouldn't make sense,
would it? Allegedly, we sent a SEAL team into the sovereign nation of
Pakistan to kill Osama, not capture him, eventhough he was unarmed and
out numbered, then we immediately dumped his body into the ocean instead
of questioning this terrorist mastermind about future terrorist
attacks.
This whole polonium thing may well be true.
But if there's one person in the world I don't trust, it's Arafat's biliionaire wife who refused to live in Gaza -- and never lived with her husband. Arafat by the way, was gay. Look it up. Loads of documentation there. There's reasonably good evidence that he was also HIV positive. So the billionaire wife of one of Forbes Magazine's "wealthiest world leaders", who never lived with her husband and lived in the wealthiest arrondisment of Paris, claims years later that her gay, HIV positive husband did not in fact die of AIDS, but died of an assassination for which there was no previous evidence.
It **IS** possible. And in fact, it might even be probable.
But this bitch has zero credibility.
Another misdirection ploy.
Anybody in and around government has zero credibility.
Rumours that Arafat had HIV are linked to an interview on Al Jazeera with Dr Ashraf Al Kurdi, a former Jordanian health ministry official and one-time personal doctor to Arafat in a broadcast made on August 4, 2007.
In it, Dr Kurdi claimed to have received an email from French medical doctors who treated Arafat, claiming to have discovered “the AIDS microbe” in Arafat’s blood.
Dr Kurdi died and the email has never been seen.
More to the point, medical records and blood tests taken by both Arab and French doctors confirm that Arafat did not have HIV or AIDS. Tunisian doctors who visited Arafat in Ramallah shortly before his death did two HIV tests, both of which were negative.
French medical records of Yasser Arafat, released by Al Jazeera, also confirm Arafat did not have AIDS or HIV.
Dr Toufik Shabba, one of the Tunisian doctors involved, told Al Jazeera in What Killed Arafat?: “HIV is my specialty. There is absolutely no way there is HIV.”
The rumour that Arafat had AIDS also fed another conspiracy theory, that Yasser Arafat was a closet homosexual. Indeed, numerous interviews with those closest to him confirmed this was false.
The AIDS/homosexual allegations originated from a former Romanian intelligence officer linked to right-wing, neoconservative groups.
Want the scoop?
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/815515/expert-fo...
Enjoy
"unhealthy lifestyle"
e.g., drinking polonium juice
that would be wrong, and we don't do it.
hugs,
blythe's dietitian
eat your vegetables!
Hedgeless: have you considered the possibility that the Muslim religion is legitimately evil, AND that Americans were manipulated and lied to, to support the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq to promote a completely non-religious agenda (oil, gas, poppy fields, or just making your friends in the MIC rich)?
They don't have to be mutually exclusive ideas. In fact, they work GREAT together.
Yes.
If you are a Christian or Jew, then consider that your God created Islam with the birth and banishment of Ishmael as described in the Book of Genesis.
Have you considered that we are being subjected to divide and rule?
the fake version of islam, wahhabism, is evil.... but so is christian zionism... these are constructs created by zionists and used to manipulate masses of people to accomplish evil ends. follow the puppet strings to see who is behind it all.
"It's all bullshit, folks, and it's bad for ya.", George Carlin
Exactly!
God(s) is/are the greatest control mechanism ever invented eons ago to keep the masses in line.
Free your mind and live a good life without God(s) make believe bullshit.
"...then consider that your God created Islam with the birth and banishment of Ishmael as described in the Book of Genesis."
Sorry, that doesn't fly. God didn't create Islam, man did.
you can easily make that statement about any religion.
What about Christianity and Judaism?
Are you an atheist?
Have you considered that we are being subjected to divide and rule?
Face it, man created all religions. Even if you believe in the Judeo christian god we were supposedly ordained with free will. The book can't be written by the hand of man with free will and be the direct word of god. Unless those writers didn't have free will. ie, they are not responsible for their ultimate destiny. And, which book is the direct word of god? The original greek texts? The pro king "king james" version, new international version? Which one wasn't created by the hand of men with free will.
I do believe in some sort of god, more agnostic than atheist. After all, why would there be existence matter,antimatter at all? It's all a leap of faith.
Divide and conquer is good stuff.
And, hedgless, I've totally got a man crush on you. Self sufficient farmer of your own meat and thought provoking poster. I wanna be like you.
And who exactly created Catholicism??
Consider the time line .. when Islam began, long after Christianity was established as a political tool. Then Christian mercenaries went after hordes of Islamists.
All that originated from the Jews who made up the entire bullshit to divide and conquer.
Good to see that you're on the right track. I have much respect for what you do. No surprise, you're a farmer too.
Then Christian mercenaries went after hordes of Islamists.
After the Islamists created their empire and caused Christians to vacate the Holy Land and Damascus, formerly entirely Christian.
...and even more formerly pagan Roman, after being Jewish, after being a mix of polytheistic pagan tribes.
And before that the location of the Garden of Eden and Adam's burial site, the first man.
Have you considered the possibility that more than one organized religion is "legitimately" evil? Does the Catholic Church hide pedophiles out of their love of God? How many are illegitimately evil?
Are you fucking kidding me.
First. The Catholic Church is a human institution, and humans are sinners. So we can't be surprised that the Church, being composed of humans, has problems, like any other human institution.
Second. If you knew anything about the Catholic Church, you would know that it has been infiltrated by Marxist-Homosexualists over the past 80 years. The Marxist part is called "liberation theology". The homosexual part-- well, I don't have to explain that. Let me just point out that there is a reason why 99.99% of all the pedophile problems in the church involve homosexual priests and boys. Virtually no cases of problems with girls.
Third. Examine the Koran, and compare it to the New Testament. The Koran justifies murder, rape, and child molestation. IT IS WRITTEN DOWN IN BLACK AND WHITE. Try to find anything even remotely similar in the New Testament. In fact, you will find the exact opposite message.
New Testament, what about the Old Testament?
He wants everyone to forget about certain parts of The Holy Bible and the Torah. Here are just a couple:
In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they are allowed to rape as spoils of war.
In 2 Kings 2:23-24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to dismember them. "He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."
Can't you tell the difference between the evil Muslim and the good jew?
It's the hats!
Not so.
Numbers 31:7-18, says nothing about rape.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__P49.HTM
2 Kings 2:23-24, does not say that GOD sent bears to kill them.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__P92.HTM
Do you not think rape is implied?
Oh Hedgeless, how dare you suggest the "approved" religion did something bad
So approved that it's the most persecuted religion in the world. Are you guys frozen in 1996 amber?
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-persecuted-religions-in-the-world-20...
Hedgeless Horseman
Thanks for standing up to the hypocrisy of the religious. Good comments.
Rick,
When you understand the Bible, there is no "hypocrisy". Everything must be put into context of the times. Of course, if you want to glance at something (like scanning a headline), you think you know the story w/o reading it. A classic mistake of logic.
No, rape was not implied.
Context is everything here. You think in modern terms of the 21st century. 3500 years ago, women were the PROPERTY of men after a battle. You cannot rape your own property. You own it. It's yours. The modern day feminists would also have you believe you can rape your own wife (who has given lifelong consent to you for sex - GOD will accept it even if man does not). Again, this is the nonsense of men looking back and redefining things. The rape of Dinah (100 years previous), as told in Genesis 34 is a rape. This was not a rape.
The Old Testament is a history of the Jews. The death of Jesus brought the new law, the New Testament. Christians can rip out the Old Testament and throw it away. It no longer applies, and is only a history lesson. If you have a problem with the Old Testament then you have a problem with the Jews, and I'm shocked that someone on ZH has a problem with the Joooos. /s
Clearly, Jesus Christ felt differently than you do about the Old Testament.
And hence why every Christian today keeps strictly kosher, worships at a synagogue, would never think of putting graven images (much less of a crucified man, or of Isis and the infant Horus, er, I mean the Madonna and baby Jesus) in their temples, and routinely stones to death adulterers, prostitutes, homosexuals and backtalking children. As prescribed by that same Law, of course.
Well, Jesus did say...
New Covenant for Gentiles akak. tsk, tsk You guys don't even pass Bible 101.
I guess it's hate GOD night. All the morons come out and start lying about the Bible. All those "laws" have to placed into the proper context. The Jewish authorities passed them, not GOD. Are they part of the Ten Commandments? Of course not. Once again, confusion reigns supreme.
"Koran justifies murder, rape, and child molestation. IT IS WRITTEN DOWN IN BLACK AND WHITE."
WHERE???
What good would it do to tell you? The information is widely available, but, hey, if you never see it then you can continue to say "WHERE".
flag as weak (1)
You have the entire internet available to you and that is the best you can manage?
Try the boards at Yahoo.
Nice edit, but still doesn't make a lot of sense. Why didn't you just use google, or maybe a radioactive cannon like Kirk.
RADIOACTIVE CANNON BITCHZ!
" What good would it do to tell you? The information is widely available.."
True, that is my point also...then why sooo much ignorance about something that can be verified with a touch of a button.
"hey, if you never see it then you can continue to say "WHERE"."
hey you missed the /sarc here also just like the context of the whole material.
It is ok to murder un-believers in 5:33 and ok to rape women taken in battle 4:24
5:33 Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,
4:24
And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess.
"5:33 Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment."
Since you have clearly missed the context of these Ayaat's, let me help you and others to see the WHOLE context here:
"5:27-5:30 And rehearse thou unto them with truth the tale of the two sons of Adam, when the twain offered an offering, and it was accepted from one of them, and was not accepted from the other; he said: surely I will slay thee. Said the other: Allah accepteth only from the God- fearing. (27) If thou stretchest forth thine hand against me to slay me, I shall not be stretching forth my hand against thee to slay thee, verily I fear Allah, the Lord of the worlds. (28) Verily would that thou bear my sin and thine own sin, and then thou become of the fellows of the Fire; that is the meed of the wrong-doers. (29) Then his soul made the slaying of his brother agreeable to him, so he slew him, and he became of the losers.(30)"
"5:32 Because of that We Prescribed unto the Children of Israil: whosoever slayeth a person, except for a person, or for corruption in the land, it shall be as through he had slain all mankind, and whosoever bringeth life to one it shall be as though he had brought life to all mankind. And assuredly there came unto them Our apostles with evidences, yet even thereafter many of them are acting on the earth extravagantly. (32)"
Can you see the difference now???
"and ok to rape women taken in battle 4:24"
"4:19-4:23 O ye who believe! ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower ye have given them,? except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them, it may be that ye dislike a thing and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good. (19) But if ye decide to take one wife in place of another, even if ye had given the latter a whole treasure for dower take not the least bit of it back: would ye take it by slander and a manifest wrong? (20) And how could ye take it when ye have gone in unto each other, and they have taken from you a solemn covenant? (21) And marry not women whom your fathers married,? except what is past: it was shameful and odious,? an abominable custom indeed. (22) Prohibited to you (for marriage) are:? your mothers, daughters, sisters, father's sisters, mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters, foster-mothers (who gave you suck) foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,?no prohibition if ye have not gone in,? (those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (23)"
"4:24 Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess. thus hath Allah ordained (prohibitions) against you: except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,? desiring chastity, not lust. Seeing that ye derive benefit from them give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, ye agree mutually (to vary it) there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-Knowing All-Wise. (24)"
5:32 is a command to the Jews and does not apply to muslims; it was taken from Rabbinical commentary and Mohd mistook it for scripture.
The next verse 5:33 that I showed IS a command to muslims.
Lets go to muslim sources and commentary, Tasfir Ibn Kathir says that "Wage war' mentioned here (in 5:33) means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways."
So according to muslim sources any disbelief and opposition to islam shall be dealt by killing and/or maiming.
Lets take a look at further muslim authority Tasfir Ibn Kathir on 4:24 :
The Ayah means, you are prohibited from marrying women who are already married,
(except those whom your right hands possess) except those whom you acquire through war, for you are allowed such women after making sure they are not pregnant. Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said, "We captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and we disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands. So, we asked the Prophet about this matter, and this Ayah was revealed, (Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess). Consequently, we had sexual relations with these women.
Mo said it was ok to rape women taken in war. Are you going to contradict him?
(as long as were talking about him) Jesus Christ, you sound like the criminal defendant. First it's the "humans" fault, then it the marxists, then well, were not as bad as the other religions....
"infiltrated by Marxist-Homosexualists over the past 80 years"
How long has the catholic church had and and hidden this problem?
What other major world religion has had this problem on this scale and covered it on this scale?
Third: as others have already pointed out, many major religions (including yours) has both justified and committed heinous felonies. Wasn't that your "first" point?
So the "bad words" aren't in the New Testament - a lot that did to prevent the child rapes
But, my religion is better than yours because...
It's my religion!
Typical close-minded egocentric, and downright dangerous, attitude.
The Saudi's and Paki's are our real enemies. Case closed. Take your anti-semitic crack pot crap back to the turd world sespool that spawned you.
How about this equivalence: They are ALL fucking animals. They can kill each other all day and all night. I dont care about them. Any of them. Jew, Arab, Christian? They are all just different colors of the same beast.
Kill the mullahs, the rabbis, and the priests and we will all be better off.
And HH isn't using a little misdirection of his own? Sheesh.
Bullshit Walks
I don't buy the distortion and manipulation of the Palestinian propagandists. The graphic deaths of children reported by Pallywood are most likely caused by actions or inactions of Palestinians themselves. This is an old tactic of jihadists. Did you see the children dying of poisoning in Syria? The dead and dying Syrian children had been kidnapped by those very same jihadists from the civilian supporters of Assad. The grievers were the actual killers.
In 2003 American accountants hired by Palestinians examined Arafat's accounts. The team claimed his secret portfolio was $1 billion in Coca-Cola, a cell phone company and funds in the US and Cayman Islands. The money came from Palestinian taxes and was stolen and controlled by Arafat. THE GAO reported that Arafat held over $10 billion in assets when he was publicly claiming bankruptcy. The financial aide to Arafat, told Shin Bet that Arafat, the Nobel Peace Prize winner, used several million dollars of aid money to buy weapons and support militant groups. The Israel army recovered counterfeit money and documents from Arafat's Ramallah headquarters showing Arafat approved payments to terrorists.
The Nobel peace prize is bullshit, too.
When speaking of killing people with Polonium 210 why don't we look at the actual obvious suspects: RUSSIA
http://www.forensicmag.com/articles/2009/06/polonium-210-and-assassinati...
Israel has never been found to use it. Russia has. Russia is known to have it. Israel, not so much. Love or hate the country, this looks Russian, not Israeli. That so many can gloss over the actual facts says a lot about personal motiviations.
This is fair. But before determining peoples "personal motivations" perhaps we should take into account who would actually benefit from it. Israel bombing the holy fuck out of Arafat can not be discounted. We can also not rule out any other country having used it. Its safe to assume if it has been used once, it has been used multiple times.
And, lets not forget, Israel doesn't "officially" have nuclear weapons.
Like anything else, there is so much bullshit to wade through. Of course we might never know. But one thing we can all be sure of, the state, as it relates in any country, does NOT have its peoples best interests at heart. Unless you have a Inc. attached to your name.
Beheadings of humans because they are not Muslim is just A OK!
Killing millions because they won't kowtow to Empire.
Priceless!
Nobody is saying that. Nice try Skottfreeovitz.
collateral damage, part of the script
Most Americans don't care though, for that's not their child. They are not the ones being attacked, and those people are all "terrorists." Murder my child, and I'll be your worst terror too.
It's all about perspective, isn't it? I think they call it "blowback"? Wait till DHS pushes a little too hard on what's left of freedom loving Americans.
I'd want to kill somebody too. There is a point where rage ignites and it won't be extinguished. My God.
My God you people are GULLABLE!
2004 was 24 half lifes ago for 210^Po. That's 1 part in 16.7 Million still present. Even if Polonim poisioning were true -- and it's not; he died of an AIDS-related sarcoma -- there isn't a single atom of Polonium left to detect for a fatal dose!
Do you really think the French (with Super Phoenix) and Swiss would be stupid enough actually test for Polonium 210 directly? If so, YOU are the gullible one.
How pure do you think the polonium 210 was of Lead 210 when it was originally formulated?
The analysts were probably measuring the ratio of Lead 210 to other isotopes of lead, providing an estimated date when the Polonium 210 was manufactured. Closer examination of isotope ratios might even identify how and where it was manufactured.
They can detect very small levels so if it is present, they can calculate approximately how much was present in 2004.
Guess again and thanks for more misdirection..
The message seems to be:
Killing in the name of oppression, "oppressionism," good.
Killing to be free of oppression, "terrorism," bad.
The criminals of the US and Israel can use WMD to oppress and enslave, but those fighting this tyranny cannot.
Hurray for Pallywood. The guy on the left in a black jacket looks familiar. I'll bet you can see him in other Pallywood productions if you look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2DmpVTf2VM
I'm sure they all look the same to you.
Now rant about the Joos.
Makes it look like wal mart's pigs have it good. That's an absolute horror. Can you imagine the fear and pain in that poor little girl. The palestinians will ultimately outbreed the israelis and good riddance.
"noting that he was 75 years old and had an unhealthy lifestyle."
Understatement of the decade. He was a well-known pedophile, really just a filthy person all around. Never mind how corrupt he was, or what a terrible leader he was, or what a criminal he was.
It is a little tough to feel bad about the way he ended.
From what I see it is ok to be a pedophile if you are famous. Shoot Micheal Jackson still gets air play and people still love a dude that slept with kids. We live in a strange world. Arafat was popular with his people so it is ok with them that he was a child rapist.
Did anyone check to see if MJ had any traces of Polonium on him?
Arafat most likely died of AIDS as he was HIV positive and actively homosexual. His wife was a figurehead wife, who didn't live with him (or even in the same country). He regularly went for treatment regarding an unknown "blood condition" -- thought to be chronic infections due to AIDS.
His wife, who lived in France now claims years later that he was assasinated? Come on. I'm not buying it.
Is there an echo in here?
Red herring – a speaker attempts to distract an audience by deviating from the topic at hand by introducing a separate argument which the speaker believes will be easier to speak to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
So is this a red herring?
http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/sections/generalnews/2013/10/15/...
That is now just incorrect information refuted in the above article cited below.
The head of the Russian forensics institute, Vladimir Uiba, was quoted by the Interfax news agency last month as saying no trace of polonium had been found on the body specimens examined in Moscow, but his Federal Medico-Biological Agency later denied he had made any official comment on its findings.
Red herring? Like immediately bringing up White Phosphorus bombs as opposed to talking about the argument at hand of whether or not Arafat was assassinated? Double Standard?
No, just trying to argue a point by pointing out a faulty conclusion.
Premise: Polonium is a chemical weapon.
Premise: Obama says the use of chemical weapons is evil and necessitates regime change.
Premise: However, for the record, Israel uses the chemical weapon, White Phosphorus, on children,...
Conclusion: ...so polonium is probably ok, too?
I do apologize for confusing the matter by using sarcasm. It is a fault that I am working on.
Not to be a nitpicking wanker... but isn't Polonium a radiological weapon?
And I imagine the Israelis - masters of tortous legalisms - would claim their use of White Phosphorus isn't for its chemical but thermal effects, similar to napalm.
Anyway, we fucking know Israel and the US/UK can do whatever they like without sanction from the lapdog MSM.
Keep it up!
Gotta repeat it at least seven times before people start thinking it's true.
You can do it!
Nice misdirection, too.
I remember him kissing men openly. Now it all makes sense.
RE": "Did anyone check to see if MJ had any traces of Polonium on him?"
Polonium?!..There's a strange name for a kid!
"..From what I see it is ok to be a pedophile if you are famous.."
Spot on - jimmy savile
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215910/Jimmy-Savile-What-Stoke-...
Wow! The US and Israeli governments, amongst others, are rife with murderers and you're going on about Arafat's nasty habits.
Buckaroo Banzion?
Wasn't there an American Head of State who insisted on a Palestinian election, then was incensed over the back splash of the result?
Yeah, it really amazes me that people equate Arafat to Palestinians. Arafat had **NOTHING** to do with helping the Palestinians. He only ever helped himself. He raped his own people at every turn. Forbes Magazine had him near the top of the list of "Wealthiest World Leaders" almost every year he was in power. Where does anyone think his wealth came from? Does anyone bother to ask how his incredibly wealthy wife managed to live so lavishly... in Paris?? And why didn't his wife live with him?
Nah.. don't ask those questions. He was a freedom fighter I tell ya. LOL.
The Palestinians have gotten fucked from every single angle -- and one of those angles is called "Yasser Arafat".
The mom's basement crowd is in full force here today, jumping like lemmings onto the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" seat. The world is more complicated than that unfortunately. And Arafat was only friends with Arafat. If you support the Palestinian people, you should loathe the man.
Are you talking about Yasser Obama-Bush? Yup, all subjects really benefit from government.
"The mom's basement crowd is in full force here today, jumping like lemmings onto the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" seat.>
Nice misdirection. Arafat was a POS. This is about how he died and maybe who killed him?
Yes. This is about what killed Arafat. The fact that his lifestyle is 100% incongruent with his image is an important part of the story. He was gay. He was HIV positive. He may or may not have had AIDS. He was a billionaire and supported a wife in another country who knew almost nothing of his lifestyle. This entire story about polonium comes FROM HER.
As for "misdirection", LOL! This thread kicks off with a giant photo (from someone with POSTING PRIVELEGES) of a dead kid with a white phosphorous hole in her head... and efforts to deny already reported medical findings regarding negative polonium findings. You have the balls to accuse *me* of misdirection? LULZ.
You are a sheep. It takes one utterly corrupt, billionaire in Paris to shout "Asassination", and you're good to go. Here's a woman that literally stole hundreds of millions from the Palestinian people, and her word is fact for you. Did you even read the article? The research findings haven't even been shared with madame Arafat. She doesn't have any data whatsoever and never really knew her "husband" anyway.
But you know the factz. Cuz you were told they were suggested to you by a blog post which has no data to back it up. Good work, son. The propaganda machine loves you.
Dear repetitively clueless,
Your inane speculations about his sexual peccadilloes, HIV status, or AIDS status have diddly-squat to do with polonium poisoning. So quit posting your irrelevant crap.
This does:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/11/06/palestinians-arafat-idUKL5N0IR1...
A team of experts, including from Lausanne University Hospital's Institute of Radiation Physics, opened Arafat's grave in the West Bank city of Ramallah last November, and took samples from his body to seek evidence of alleged poisoning.
"This has confirmed all our doubts," said Suha Arafat, who met members of the Swiss forensic team in Geneva on Tuesday. "It is scientifically proved that he didn't die a natural death and we have scientific proof that this man was killed."
Professor David Barclay, a British forensic scientist retained by Al Jazeera to interpret the results of the Swiss tests, said the findings from Arafat's body confirmed the earlier results from traces of bodily fluids on his underwear, toothbrush and clothing.
"In my opinion, it is absolutely certain that the cause of his illness was polonium poisoning," Barclay told Reuters. "The levels present in him are sufficient to have caused death.
"What we have got is the smoking gun - the thing that caused his illness and was given to him with malice."
Dear propaganda puppet, think for yourself. And don't suck every cock that's put in front of your face.
You still know just as little as you did before you read that article. All you know now is what someone else wants you to believe.
When radiation experts are called in to dig up a body with no prior evidence of radiation posoning, I read that as 100% goal seeked research. You see a coincidence, I imagine.
You're a sheep.
All you know now is what someone else wants you to believe.
So we come to the point now. How, exactly, do you KNOW that Arafat fucked kids, and had AIDS? You were told, right? Because I'm fairly certain you didn't examine him.
Not to defend the guy. But come on. All this info, no matter WHERE it comes from, should be viewed skeptically. Its easy to paint someone as a child fucker to discredit them. So this could be a possible smear campaign. No?
Again, not defending this shit head. But I know I can't be certain of anything I don't see for myself. And even then, I need to be skeptical.
"He was a well-known pedophile, really just a filthy person all around. Never mind how corrupt he was, or what a terrible leader he was, or what a criminal he was."
i forgot, what congressman were we talking about?
Wow. They make ass dildos out of radioactive Polonium? Who knew?
Funny you should sat that NotA, been doing that for 4 years (and more), ETD planet earth soon, I will not miss it
Good, to hell with that child raping little fucktard muslim.
This is fight club. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
This is fight club. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. USED to be able to, but now you get banned. This is fight club, be careful what you say. FIFY
POLONIUM, when you absolutely, positively have to get rid of a Palestinian asswipe.
They must have mixed it in with his tri-therapy drip. AIDS plus polonium. Bravo. Bravissimo.
Except Arafat was not Palestinian.
Bahhh! There is no proof here. This could all be explained by a time traveling trip to any California beach in 2015.
And to the guys that downchecked this : Fuck Y'all.
..and to heaven with that child raping little fucktard christian
(the last word in your sentence gave it away)
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Suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the United States. In 2009, the total number of suicide deaths was 36,909.[1] It was the 7th leading cause of death for males, and 16th leading cause of death for females. Suicide was the third leading cause of death for young people ages 15 to 24.[2] In 2008, it was observed that U.S. suicide rates, particularly among middle-aged white women, had increased, although the causes were unclear.[3] The government seeks to prevent suicides through its National Strategy for Suicide Prevention, a collaborative effort ofSubstance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Institutes of Health, Health Resources and Services Administration, and Indian Health Service.[4] Their plan consists of 11 goals aimed at preventing suicides.[5] Older adults are disproportionately likely to die by suicide.[6]
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This is not news to me. The minute they had him confined to a specific location, I knew he'd be "toast".
Years ago I suspected the Mossad of having directed a radioactive cannon* at him (at his bed!) and turned it on at night, and I told friends about this. QED.
p.s. Does the nuke site at Dimona not produce radioactive wast -- including Polonium? Sounds like a WMD was used. Hello UN, Obama, time to have Israel get rid of its WMDs also.
* 5 Steps to a DIY Radiation Cannon, used by any scumbag Gov Agency: 1. Build a device that resembles a "cannon", but made up of Pb bricks. 2. Must be lined with >6" of Pb to prevent damage to people nearby. 3. Aim at desired target. 4. Crunch numbers for dosimetry, based on distance and solid angle of radiation cone. 5. Insert radioactive material into cannon, w/o getting radiated in the process. 6. Remove Pb shutter when needed, close when the timer says so.
/ Then sit back, play cards, BS, surf for porn and let time do its magic. Works like a charm on targets who are otherwise "inaccessible". /sarc
Moral: If you are a "rogue leader/dictator", you'd better add a few radiation detectors to your compound. Or it's more than your Thanksgiving turkey that's "cooked".
See this Hedgeless, see this! Now this is how you roll, baby! Kirk rolls with radioactive cannons. That's what I love about ME posts on ZH. It's like shaking an oak tree, nuts fall everywhere.
RADIOACTIVE CANNON BITCHZ!!!
Do you actually have an argument/case to make, or do you prefer complex, expensive and "sane" (LMAO) solutions -- like Ronny Raygun's "Star Wars"?
Ridicule all you want, you can be sure that all "rogue" leaders/dictators will now add Radiation detectors to their arsenal (at home or while traveling). Al-CIA-Duh will just have to try a bit harder, when they want to kill an unreachable target, and not have it look like it was them.
Inverse-square law.
RADIOACTIVE CANNON BITCHZ!!!
Kirkkkkkkkkkkkk! I thought you wanted to have a discussion about radioactive cannons. Don't let something like a law of physics deter you. Perhaps you would like to discuss something else? Maybe scientificy uses for tinfoil?
RADIOACTIVE CANNON BITCHZ!!!
Great news, appears we finally got rid of one of the main instigators of any hope of any lasting peace talks.
Time to put a bullet in Sharon's face.
Imagine my complete lack of surprise.
He sure did look debonair in those hand-tailored Saville Row suits while palestinians were having mud patties for lunch.
And let's not forget that Israeli intelligence witnessed Atta passing polonium to Yasser at their meeting in Prague.
Never mind the billions and billions he stole from his own people, locked away in offshore accounts.
Never mind the 100's of Billions stolen by the kosher bolshevik mafia for their criminial paradise. For being so savvy, high IQ, and "gifted", they sure need that perpetual foreign aid and weapons funding to get along. Guess they are just savvy and gifted in stealing, coercing, spying, blackmailing, and bullshiting their way to money and power.
Be careful what you say, this is fight club and there will be no tribe bashing.
What's up with the down votes? Any political figure is evil and corrupt. Period.
Yes, but what is being discussed is whether one of them was murdered or not. And some people can't figure out that this is what the real substance of the article is supposed to be about: people bring up all kinds of shit, mostly out of their insecurities/programming- and, well, their own shit doesn't stink...
For those unaware: THAT'S WHAT GOVERNMENT IS FOR
GFC, people are stupid.
Nice to see everyone is such a good mood this morning.
I was telling people to fuck off last night so I'm all good...
Bay! Great comment !!
60 yard field goal.
The Israeli government has denied any role in his death, noting that he was 75 years old and had an unhealthy lifestyle.
Yea, right. And I'm Santa Claus.
Well, ingesting polonium certainly isn't the hallmark of a healthy lifestyle.
+100 for your radioactive humor.
When will our Lizard overlords be rewarded their well deserved Nobel Peace prizes.
Over.
He already was.
Aye, Colonel
Let's not be too hasty, here.
Given his unhealthy lifestyle, maybe he accidentally drank some Polonium-210 Koolaid.
"Israeli government says they could not have done this, as the use of radioactive Polonium is the signature of the former KGB, which was used it against its political enemies in the Ukraine." /sarc
Good. He was a piece of shit. Tip of the cap to the Israeli's.
Show's you how stupid the israelis are. Dudes resting in a mausoleum FFS. You don't even need to dig, just send in one of your Tel Aviv suicide bombers and destroy the evidence.
Bebe's too busy with paid speaking engagements on Long Island and Hallendale Beach to keep an eye on the details.
Or is it just arrogance, the type which normal people would never expect.
Over.
Live by the sword, die by polonium! Ding, dong, the terrorist is dead!
I see they have the AIPAC army pounding away on their keyboards.
Nope. They recently changed their name to the American Semitic Solidarity Political Action Committee (ASSPAC).
Try to keep up with the news, will ya?
I heard ASSPAC is now life-partners with FUDGEPAC*
And that Barry is full on board with this.
* Friends United in Discrimination & Gentile Eradication Political Action Commiettee.
Really? You don't have to be from AIPAC, or even jewish, to know that Arafat was a filthy, corrupt pig.
Lol. So state sanctioned assasination is ok then.
Only when the us (lack of capitalization and periods intended) does it to a whole country
He had PLENTY of enemies, both jewish and muslim. Can we be sure that a state was even involved?
Polonium is so rare in nature that you need a uranium refinery, or a reactor, or a cyclotron, or a mole in Russia's political assassinations office to get any useful amount. A secret Hamas cyclotron is theoretically possible, but it doesn't exactly fit their style.
I blame Israel.
It must have been... Iran! Yes! More evidence that we need to attack NOW, before they develop that suitcase nuke!
Do you even exist? How can we be sure you're not just paid troll?
The tribe is the only one with means AND motivation to do this.
The same zionist tribe that killed Kennedy and every single human whom threat its monetary-financial monopoly. Some or them are jews by coincidence: rothschild, rockefeller, finkelstein, warburg, goldman, sachs, lehman, soros, bernanke, greenspan, yellen.. and so on.
They ain't Zionist, Luciferian. Whole different religion. The devil worshipers who are in control of Israel are not Jewish, but yes they are quite evil.