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Silk Road 2.0 Has Been Born... New Website Mocks The Feds
Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
The “authorities” can shut down website after website, but the tide of new technology and the human spirit itself cannot and will not be overcome. This is the hard lesson that statists and collectivists will be learning the hard way in the years to come, as decentralization and freedom stage a gigantic, peaceful revolution. A revolution that is already in full swing and gaining tremendous momentum with each passing day.
It took only a little over a month for Silk Road 2.0 to launch on the “dark web,” and there are already close to 500 illegal drug listings. As part of the new service there is even a new security feature that allows users to use their PGP encryption key as an extra authentication measure. The login page itself is even a parody of the Department of Justice’s seizure of the original site in early October. This is what you see when you visit:
More from Forbes:
On Wednesday morning, Silk Road 2.0 came online, promising a new and slightly improved version of the anonymous black market for drugs and other contraband that the Department of Justice shut down just over a month before. Like the old Silk Road, which until its closure served as the Web’s most popular bazaar for anonymous narcotics sales, the new site uses the anonymity tool Tor and the cryptocurrency Bitcoin to protect the identity of its users. As of Wednesday morning, it already sported close to 500 drug listings, ranging from marijuana to ecstasy to cocaine. It’s even being administered by a new manager using the handle the Dread Pirate Roberts, the same pseudonym adopted by the previous owner and manager of the Silk Road, allegedly the 29-year-old Ross Ulbricht arrested by the FBI in San Francisco on October 2nd.
The only significant visible change from the last Silk Road, spotted by the dark-web-focused site AllThingsVice that first published the site’s new url, is a new security feature that allows users to use their PGP encryption key as an extra authentication measure. It also has a new login page, parodying the seizure notice posted by the Department of Justice on the prior Silk Road’s homepage, with the notice “This Hidden Site Has Been Seized” replaced by the sentence “This Hidden Site Has Risen Again.”
“You can never kill the idea of Silk Road,” read the twitter feed of the new Dread Pirate Roberts twenty minutes before the site’s official launch.
Many more of Silk Road’s users seem reassured, however, by the fact that Silk Road 2.0 is being managed in part by known administrators from the original Silk Road, particularly a moderator known as Libertas who has served as one of the more vocal leaders of the Silk Road community since Ulbricht, the alleged Dread Pirate Roberts, was arrested.
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FUCK THE FEDS!
Fuck the Fed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiTikduJ15Y
Honeypot?
My prediction from 2 days ago of BTC>300 by this weekend ... lookin' good baby ... BTFATH !
Don't get too excited. Growing trust in our beloved governments will kill this Internet anarchy instantly.
Give me the URL.
C'mon, baby!
I'll do all those things you like...
PULEEESE?
Oh, C'mon! You know I really LOVE you...I'm the one, sugar...
Give me the fucking link!
No, I didn't really mean it that way.
I'm not like the other sluts. Just tell me, and I'll trust you...
(SHIT. I got too excited!)
(sarc)
Careful there kids! The new site may be controlled by the same kid from prison under the supervision of TPTB, DEA, NSA et al.
I noticed you didn't get junked....what's your secret?
One look at a crack house and you can see why we shouldn't glorify drugs. http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/07/documentary-crack-house-usa.html
Some are worse than others and deserve to be taken off the streets. In fact, some of these drugs can be used by governments to control its citizens.
Drug problems go back to the Ice Ages, at least. You think rulers and violent prohibition will solve them?
The drug war is what caused crack and subsequently crack houses to come into existence.
Looks as if the Federals kettle is about to blow its top.
They cannot kill this internet anarchy anymore than they can kill the human spirit. The very term "black market" is a feeble-minded attempt to push the subjective values of a corrupt and mentally lazy majority upon the rest. People buying drugs or guns online are acting upon what they consider their best interests in that moment for them. Human action.
At any rate, the deep web and Bitcoin phenomenon should quickly render the terms "black market" and "money laundering" anachronisms from the crony-capitalist era.
Stay tuned for more "dark webs"... the FEDs will not be able to stop the innovation of the rising underground.
Pirate internet bitchez!
Growing trust in our beloved governments
Actually, that is FAILING trust in guvs.
Compare the 1950s when politicians were respected, nay revered! We now complain that politicians are liars and thieves all the time, and generally get nods of agreement.
The process is too slow for our liking, but guvs are strongly losing trust.
A painfully obvious one.
yes the scared sheep spirit of ZH commenters rises again!!
I'm here almost every day, shitlord.
Your postings need to be put in another venue.
Have you tried 'IMAWHORE.COM', yet?
I hear that the jesuit crowd really likes to hang their robes over there.
If that isn't sufficient impetuisce for you, there are other sites that you may prowl. Use your imagination, 'scatologicalwenchfreak' and 'the SHITMASTER' that she worships.
Wanna PLAY, whoremongerer?
That looks like it took a while to write out. Too bad it's complete jibberish so any intended insult is lost in translation.
Smart people put their investiment capital in real things. Fools put theirs in get rich quick schemes.
Edit: What the hell is impetuisce?
Did you mean Impetus?
XenoFrog
I respect your right to consistantly argue that bitcoin and crypto-currencies in gernal are nothing more than ponzi get rich quick schemes but can I ask you what your argument is against the real potential utility for the underlying technology? I've never seen you write anything very insightful on the subject and just pop your head above the parapet every time there's some negative press and say "I told you so". You've said that many times now and the bloody thing just won't sit down will it.
Let's pretend that bitcoin was never pitched as a digital currrency but that, like the information transfer protocols that came before it (such as TCP/IP that the world wide web was eventually built upon over the course of 30 years or so), it was just called something like VTPP (Value Transfer Payments Protocol).
Now, people far more intelligent than you and me have stated that the technology is nothing less than ground breaking - Bill Gates called it a technological tour de force, for example - and some of the best minds in cryptography have declared it to be of solid design. A long time after TCP/IP first appeared Tim Berners-Lee eventually donated HTTP to the world and some 5 years after that the Mosaic browser popped up. In the 20 years since then the way that information is diseminated has changed the world in ways that none of us (Bill Gates included) could ever have imagined. Swathes of businesses that acted as middle men connecting consumer and producer have fallen by the wayside as information started to flow seamlessly and directly between the two end users and we have all benefitted hugely.
The one industry that escaped this disruption was the financial sector that simply chose to bolt on their legacy payment systems to this new "information" network. It's remarkably inefficient and insecure and it costs us all as the amount of fraud and security breaches continues to rise and costs get passed on to us.
Bitcoin (or VTPP) is to value transfer as TCP/IP and HTTP were to information transfer. It's as simple as that. And Bitcoin is the TCP/IP part - bitcoin's HTTP hasn't yet been invented although Mastercoin, that is currenlty being developed to sit on top of bitcoin with the aim of making it more usable in every day life, is the first stab at it. I'm not sure it will be one that works but it might be, and if not Mastercoin, then something else down the line.
For good reason, the information network that is the world wide web is virtually unlimited in size and can be extended as long as new information is born to be carried across it. That simply doesn't work with a value transfer network (unless it was one being designed by the Federal Reserve) so, by design, the bitcoin network is strictly limited in size but divided into a huge number of atomic units that can be utilised every bit as efficiently whether in part or as a whole.
The techology is undeniable - whether bitcoin survives or not the technology WILL be with us for a very long time and, in the future, it will change the way that voting sytems work, patent laws are applied and contracts are created and verified.
Bitcoin is a fixed bandwith value transfer network. If you buy bitcoins you are buying real estate on that network. The price of that real estate will fluctuate like ALL assets that have a fixed supply depending on the perception of their utility.
Bitcoin's utility and potential to do what the internet has so far been unable to do, i.e. break the monopoly of our archaic banking sytem, and allow people to transfer the value they have earned to someone else anywhere in the world without having to pay a tax to the gatekeepers every time they do so. If you're too short sited to see any potential in that then there's probably not much I, or anyone else can do to change your mind - you'll just realise it in a few years time.
That essay was one of the most interesting things I have read on ZH lately. It deserves a more prominent pedestal than midpage in ZH comments. Any chance the Tylers and Bangers could expand and upgrade this line of analysis into a headline article?
Thank you! I don't come for the tech side of things but even most hard core coder will admit that it took a fair amount of research before they really got it. Even the brilliant Hal Finney who conducted the first bitcoin transaction with Satoshi Nakamoto admintted to forgetting about it for a year or so afterwards as he nver really imagined it would catch on.
"Wild digital currency" grabs the headlines but does it very little justice. It took me months of reading until I really started to understand and a lot of the deep techincal stuff still makes my head hurt.
Where will it end up? I have no idea. Ignore it? Probably not that sensible.
Good comments. However, please allow skeptics as opposed to others outright rejecting it. Think also that the banksters are already preparing an ETF on it which scares many people since the ETF may be more influential on the price rather than the computerized internal mechanism of Bitcoin.
Couple the above with government(s) intervening and you get unstable chemistry in your hands. Also the mystery of who the creator realy is, spooks most. Could it be another Ponzi? Could it be a government? Could it be organized crime? Sorry! I could have saved some typing by combining government and organized crime into one and the same.
Act accordingly mates
Who is "Satoshi Nakamoto". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin
Who in their right mind believes that someone would just think this up, do all the coding, and release it anonymously?
It violates a basic principle of human nature, vanity, and reward for energy expended. If you come up with something brilliant you want credit, maybe even some sort of profit for your idea. "Bill Gates called it a technological tour de force", and you don't want credit for your invention?
Crypto-currency is the next step in global domination by the moneymen. It is part of the globalist agenda and needs to be tossed in the trash bin. But instead, greed prevails. "I can make how much mining Bitcoin?? Fuck it, I'm a miner now!"
Never fails.
Over.
I'll admit I don't get into bitcoin because I don't understand it and can't hold it in my grubby paws. I hope it is as great as it's supposed to be and does make an uncrushable monopoly breaker to the fed. I just don't get the whole tech thing to that degree. Until then, I'll stick with alternate currencies that hurt if I drop them on my foot. And, sadly, sink when cast overboard.
I do wish I'd bought some earlier this year. I could say the same thing about tesla but I'm not gonna go out and buy any of that before its inevitable fall.
Fuck the fed and .gov!
Thanks for that brilliant analysis of bitcoin - the VTPP paradigm nails it. Since we are all blind in the presence of elephants, my take is that BC is really virtual gold (or appears to be).
Somewhere in the recesses of the human brain gold is associated with the idea of the incorruptable - it doesn't rust, stays shiny and lasts, and is not easily counterfeit. As long as BC can maintain the same association, it will be valuable.
So far, BCv1.0 has done pretty well in that regard - if it can't hack it (pun) BCv2.0 or BC3.0 will...
The concept of BC itself is world changing, and TPTB will try their utmost to kill or control BC, and I think will fail at both.
Yea virtual gold alright. But ZH taught me to demand physical bitchez! (and then have a boating accident)
Over.
The only smart move. When the lights go out, you won't be able to feed your family with bitcoins.
Excellent essay. Quite a lot of breath wasted on a government troll though. Hey Xenofraud, you fail ;-)
thebitcoinchannel.com
DOLLAR COLLAPSING – BITCOIN 300 TIMES MORE VALUABLE THAN U.S. GOVERNMENT ISSUED TOILET PAPER!1. It's not anonymous as advertised
2. There's a very limited amount, and thus easily manipulated by big players
3. Conversion between currencies and bitcoin remains in the hands of very large players, all who make it easy to buy in, and difficult to 'cash' out (check definition of a ponzi scheme. This is a major red flag)
4. While the concept of an unmanipulatable digital currency is appealing for those who want control out of the Fed's hands, Bitcoin is not the answer. There are simply too many flaws.
5. Bitcoin supporters use conflicting arguments to promote bitcoin to others. Arguing that it is both a stable alternative currency, and something that you have to buy in now before the value skyrockets. You cannot have a stable currency that skyrockets in value. Or in Bitcoin's case, skyrockets, then crashes, then skyrockets, then crashes.
6. The Fed/US Government now possess a huge number of bitcoins through seizure and other means.
7. It's not that i'm too, "short sited" to see the potential in a digital currency. It's that this digital currency is rife with problems that make it a poisonous venture.
1. It's not anonymous as advertised
>>> no, it's pseudo anonymous as advertised.
2. There's a very limited amount, and thus easily manipulated by big players
>>> There are a very unlimited amount of US dollars and thus easily manipulated by big players
3. Conversion between currencies and bitcoin remains in the hands of very large players, all who make it easy to buy in, and difficult to 'cash' out (check definition of a ponzi scheme. This is a major red flag)
>>> Agreed and been flagged as an issue since day one but as demand to trade has grown so has the number of operqational exchanges and that is likely to continue. There's also plenty of OTC options available if you choose to use them.
4. While the concept of an unmanipulatable digital currency is appealing for those who want control out of the Fed's hands, Bitcoin is not the answer. There are simply too many flaws.
>>> We're on version 5 of the HTML standard. Why? because the first, second, third and forth versions weren't perfect. Nobody ever suggested dropping HTML - they just improved on a very good foundation
5. Bitcoin supporters use conflicting arguments to promote bitcoin to others. Arguing that it is both a stable alternative currency, and something that you have to buy in now before the value skyrockets. You cannot have a stable currency that skyrockets in value. Or in Bitcoin's case, skyrockets, then crashes, then skyrockets, then crashes.
>>>> Don't listen to others' opinions and form your own. Mine is that IF bitcoin grows and becomes widely used it will be as the core value transfer protocol that I tried to explain above. I don;t actually believe that bitcoin will be widely used as a currency in its own right but will greece the wjheels of pegged currencies that utilise the protocol and fucntion on top of it. A peer-to-peer USD Coin or a GBP Coin perhaps. Most people don't own gold or silver - it may or may not be a good hedge against inflation but fluctuates to much for most people's comfort. Those more prone to risk may carry the underlying bitcoin and one day rent atomic units to others that can function as the basis of a pegged currency that maintains the underlying peer-to-peer benefits. the "colored coin" concept or Mastercoin may evolve to facilitate something like this
6. The Fed/US Government now possess a huge number of bitcoins through seizure and other means.
>>> They own a huger number of USD seized by the same means. DPR shoulda secured his wallets better
7. It's not that i'm too, "short sited" to see the potential in a digital currency. It's that this digital currency is rife with problems that make it a poisonous venture.
>>>> I tried to make the point above that from TCP/IP to Twitter took over 30 years
I think Xenofrog in the last point made a point (pun unintended) for making business in Bitcoin you need 3 things:
-your business partner need to know what is the cryptocurrency (the 1st basic thing) i.e. Bitcoin;
-your business partner need to have a wallet for that cryptocurrency;
-working Internet connection (the 2nd basic thing).
If one is missing you can't make business in Bitcoin or in other cryptocurrency.
1. It can be made anonymous, and it's "advertised" as pseudonymous.
2. Each bitcoin can be divded to 8 decimal places. 21 million x 10^8 is a big number.
3. Depends on the currency. The difficulty of getting it out in USD is mainly the fault of reporting requirements levied by the US government. I.e. it's not bitcoin that has a flaw, it's the US dollar.
4. Such as?
5. Who, exactly, says it's stable now? If it ever goes truly mainstream, I think it will be every bit as stable as gold, but I haven't heard anyone claim that it's stable now. Seems like a strawman.
6. Either they will sell them, or they'll destroy them (thus increasing the value of all other bitcoins). Either way, whats the issue?
7. Such as?
The most interesting part to me of all this is that nearly every so-called "flaw" in BTC that I've ever heard applies just as much to physical gold, but that's inevitably the alternative that is given.
Have you tried 'IMAWHORE.COM', yet?
Hey bro sounds like you need a date:
http://instadate.us/profile?id=85640
Got any selfies?
Over.
No need. I'm off to bang Xenofrog
I'm here almost every day, shitlord.
And you promote Fed causes every day too... Shitlord.
Actually, I promote the ownership of Gold and Silver every day.
Recognizing Bitcoin as the ponzi scheme it is doesn't automatically make someone pro-Fed.
Just because you're a fantatical supporter of a digital currency doesn't mean that you are required to think in a binary manner, yes?
Well the inclusion of PGP at least gives you the option of not revealing your communications with the site owners.
I'm not understanding how the FEDS can't shut down this site? If they are using public DNS servers linked to IP address(es).... Can't the network operators just block these domain names and addresses?
It's not using public DNS servers. It operates on the TOR network using P2P. The only way to shut it down is to either bring down the entire TOR network or break through the operational security of the Silkroad owners. The only reason they took down the original Silkroad is due to the failings of the owners. If properly set up this time it is basically unstoppable. You can have multiple servers spread out among the globe that are locked down and communicating with the P2P TOR network anonymously.
The only way to shut it down is to either bring down the entire TOR network or break through the operational security of the Silkroad owners. The only reason they took down the original Silkroad is due to the failings of the owners. If properly set up this time it is basically unstoppable.
rhetorically ... How could anyone "bring down the entire TOR network" ? It's not a "thing" that exists in common sense of term.
You can't. Nobody can.
Come check out my site sometime.
http://www.neonschizophrenia.com/2013/11/04/shit-bitches/
Over.
You use the word 'over' constantly. After looking @ your site I know see why.
They got Dread Pirate Roberts and in turn the first silk road site through old fashioned detective work. It wasn't technical prowess that brought it down, it was old fashioned developing informants with access to the target and using them to develop the evidence before going in and arresting people and shutting down sites.
TOR entry and exit nodes are well known addresses that can be easily found, for obvious reasons. Start bringing those down and TOR grinds to a halt.
In theory if you controlled an overwhelming majority of the p2p nodes you would be able to piece together all the information being passed around and at the very least figure out who is the most popular node. But if opsec is kept high that only leads you to a lone server in a small room where the rent is paid in cash and the server is automatically burned on any unannounced visits.
I'm not understanding how the FEDS can't shut down this site? If they are using public DNS servers linked to IP address(es).... Can't the network operators just block these domain names and addresses?
Simple answer is No, thanks to Tor, courtesy of DoD's Office of Naval Research.
See excellent article by Nicolas Christin http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/nicolasc/publications/TR-CMU-CyLab-12-018.pdf which summarizes the architecture in the single paragraph below, citing [11] below, Figure 1 omitted.
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Accessing Silk Road.
Suppose that Bob (B), a prospective buyer, wants to access the Silk Road marketplace (SR). Bob will first need to install a Tor client on his machine, or use a web proxy to the Tor network (e.g. http://tor2web.org) as Silk Road runs only as a Tor hidden service [11]. That is, instead of having a DNS name mapping to a known IP address, Silk Road uses a URL based on the pseudo-top level domain.onion, that can only be resolved through Tor. At a high level, when Bob’s client attempts to contact the Silk Road server URL (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion at the time of this writing), Tor nodes set up a rendez-vous point inside the Tor network so that the client and server can communicate with each other while maintaining their IP addresses unknown from observers and from each other. Once connected to the Silk Road website, Bob will need to create an account. The process is simple and merely involves registering a user name, password, withdrawal PIN, and answering a CAPTCHA. After this registration, Bob is presented with the Silk Road front page (see Figure 1) from where he can access all of Silk Road’s public listings.
[11] R. Dingledine, N. Mathewson, and P. Syverson. Tor: The second-generation onion router. In Proceedings of the 13th USENIX Security Symposium
, Aug. 2004.Funny thing is, http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/ is still resolving and says that it is indeed "SEIZED".
Here I was hoping to 'obtain' some of that 32% THC CIA-Harvard engineered Dank this morning.
Over.
And it also prevent spoofing since you can sign your encrypted message using your secret key. Both seller and buyer are thus isolated from the site owners and emails are completely protected.
IT SECRET.
IT PROTECTED.
INTERNET IS GOOD.
TRANSACTIONS SAFE.
MONGO ONLY PAWN IN GAME OF LIFE.
Seriously?
Really?
GTFOOH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKRma7PDW10
Damn! you're really funny!
And you assume that sane,self-conscious and liberty-cherishing people who are looking to get stoned would never forget to use their PGP key, right?
NO!!!
DUH!!!!!
They might forget to light the bong before they inhaled, or forget to load the bowl before blazing.
Until proven as kosher, I see Fed HONEYPOT written all over it. What better way for data to be mined on the sheep?
You guys see a honeypot everywhere.
These guys should build the website for Osamacare!
Join up for Obamacare and you will get a free bucket of fried chicken!
Maybe Obamacare will get the same burial as Osamacare.
They're certainly faster than the feds at making web pages. +1
I'm waiting for the IPO..... SR2 to da Moon!
I have read a ton of clever lines on ZH, this one is right up there
No it's a racist dig and if it was about ids then you'd be getting a warning email soon.
Anyway good luck to the new Silk Road , I liked it SR 1, yummy.
Awesome! Fuck the Feds and the whoreses they rode in on!
FUCK THE FEDS!
As long as there not vegen right VD !!! then they're your buddies
thank god it's back up. i've been smoking shitty chinese weed for the last month. although right now they only have fake lithuanian passports, im holding out for the auzzie birth certificates.
I tried loading TOR; or whatever you call it when you put it on your computer; but I have Linux OS; and I'm not a computer programmer so everything turns out to be impossible for one little reason or another, that a real computer programmer could fix in ten seconds. God I wish the Iinux programmers would get their heads out of their asses and make the point and click gui; actually point and click. But it never turns out that way; it's always the dreaded "terminal", with blinking idiot light;; "type something so we can tell you how badly you failed and what an idiot you are". I tried until I got a headache; but something turned out to need a permission or a clearance; or some damn thing; and of course I can't type //?#576::sudit?? like any normal linux programmer with 17 years of programming experience. GRRR!.
I suggest you hit up one of the forums for advice. But by the sounds of it you need root permissions to install TOR. Assuming you trust the software - have you tried logging in as root to install it?
I agree though, if you're a non-technical user, Linux can be a nightmare. It can be a nightmare even if you ARE technically-savvy... but so can Windoze.
Stick with it SAT.
Bring up a 'terminal'
Type 'sudo' and enter your root password.
(fedora)
When you're root type 'yum install tor'. Easy.
else
http://people.virginia.edu/~ll2bf/docs/nix/tor.html
Once install be sure to give back if you can and config your system as an exit router.
Over.
Do they have any crude Opium? Man, that's a mellow thing.
#BuckFarack
#SuckFibelius
Strange days.
[Radagast] ...But what if it's a trap!?
[Gandalf] It is most ceratainly a trap! (Draws sword)
Operation FEDFRONT is in full effect. Lets hope that if this isn't fake, the Dread Pirate stays outside of the US and uses burnable Internet connections. No more coffeeshops in San Fran like a dumbass.
why would you assume the dumasss they caught was anythinhg but a virtual assistant hired to take the hit unbeknonst?
That is the simple evolution here. All hazard work will be relegated to cybermules, their funds digitally funneled off at regular intervals (via gold most likely).
Nothing but a bunch of naive freelancers doing 100 to life for trumped charges.
End the stupid drug war already you lost.
When I heard the first guy's handle was Dread Pirate Roberts, I was amused. It was a cute allusion.
But it is so much more satisying to see that it was not just a name, but an implementable succession plan, which in itself, is also an alluson. Went from just cute to really clever.
May the lineage of Dread Pirate Roberts extend on from here unbroken. Like the Doctor Whos.
They're winning the drug war. It's not about stopping drugs, it's about throwing people in jail, having a use for more piggys in more militarized gear (gotta be able to fight those violent criminal they just created) and limiting the suppliers. If weed or coke were legal they couldn't keep only a few cartels supplying it.
They could just as easily have a war on extramarrital sex. Make a bunch of people criminals without changing human behavior.
Fuck .gov
Note to self; no more clenching of butt cheeks in front of any officer or likely informant.
Do all butt clenches in the privacy of one's own home.
End the stupid drug war already you lost.
Actually, the purpose of the "drug war" isn't to eliminate drugs, its to eliminate the competition. The Crown discovered how valuable it is to trade drugs (in China) a long time ago, as did George HW Bush and Bill Clinton more recently (Mena Ark and Iran-Contra anyone?)
Cynic me thinks the new Silk Road site is run the the Feds not as a honeypot (although clearly useful as such if they so deem), but as a way to sell off the Afghani opium they are accumulating now, which of course the Taliban tried to stamp out hence the reason for America's Afghanistan adventure.
Fuck You, Obama!
irony or ironies. internet was created by the government for its use and control, and internet is what will bring them down.
Yep, ultimately. But they won't go down easily. This thing's gonna get very interesting. Got popcorn ?
no popcorn.. how about meth, schrooms, molly, dank, addy, coke & acid??
And consider that our government is supposed to be representative of its constituents. Instead, it has become representative of the cleptocracy.
The internet is certainly a huge step in the course of the People getting back our freedoms, but not the sole means to this end. We're still way too apathetic for our own good. When the food machine ATM stops giving free bananas each first of the month, Section 9 vaporizes, and the hospitals finally close down because there are far too many anchor babies for the natives to deal with - THEN you'll see some change try to occur.
I'm not at all worried about FEMA camps. Those bastards couldn't deal with Katrina and they can't even wipe unless Congress grants the next bill, after a lengthly filibuster of course!
"Those bastards couldn't deal with Katrina "
I think you've mistaken them for having "wanted" to deal with Katrina. Part of the bigger picture.
FUCK STATIST. BUT FUCK COLLECTIVIST EVEN MORE.
Even more dazed and confused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7jW8_2Us5c
The drug cartels (government) hate having their exclusive franchise challenged.
I sincerely wish these people all the best.
I wish Obama would take up the pipe again. It would sure make the rest of our lives much easier.
That's what Reggie is around for. Oh, wait, ... sorry, I thought u said 'take it UP the pipe' ... my bad
Allow me to rephrase that:
I wish someone would take the (lead) pipe to Obama. It would sure make the rest of our lives much easier.
Dear Statists, As some have said before "If you can't beat them, join them".
Put another way... If you can't kill it, assimilate it. Make that shit legal.
Quality will go up, prices will fall. Treat it like any other addiction or DUI event, and the current system of parasitic industries of LEA, Judiciary, Prisons, and Health just might keep their jobs. Even fundamentalist Ministers might enjoy a boom in fire & brimstone.
Pfizer, Roche, Wyeth, Lilly, and Merk have paid them too much to keep it illegal. Damn, all together that sounds like the law firm from hell.
Pardon a silly question, but... How do Pfizer et al profit from keeping recreational chemicals illegal?
If they were legal, I'd expect these guys to be at the, uh, forefront of technological innovation. Furthermore, they already have extensive manufacturing, distribution, and marketing networks in place. They'd make Coke and Pepsi look small-time. A few PR issues aside, it seems like a total win for them.
If anything, I expect it'd be the Mexican and Colombian cartels that should be lobbying to keep their product illegal.
Alot of drug companies makes loads of money selling prescription drugs that alleviate symptoms, the same symptoms that can be alleviated with plants I "could" grow in my basement or backyard.....
The original Dread Pirate Roberts may have sung like a canary while getting waterboarded. The claims of anonymity on SRII are dubious at best at this point.........
can you get addys on that site.. I go thru the regular prescription in a week or two.... when you are up to 80MG a day or some days over 100MG the crash can be very nasty
lol u need to up to dex or vyvs
Chemical paradise, is usually a short trip. Pun intended.
In eurobamacare these can simply be ordered over the net no silly questions asked. Have your policy # handy to order.
Word or phrase to learn for the day:
EUROBAMACARE!
Prohibition backfired as well. Kennedys made a fortune and later-on one of the kids became President. History doesn't repeat itself but it sure rhymes. Future President will be a Bitcoin mogul whose ancestors made a fortune selling illegal drugs online.
Pretty sad statement about human society really.
Only this one is run by the CIA. They found the ultimate turnkey business.
Air America flies again!
what about Holder's operations
Do you mean running guns to the Sinaloa drug family and giving them free reign to fly drugs into Chicago?
I don't know what you're talking about.
How will we know SilkRoad2.0 is a CIA front? Easy. It won't get shut down.
So what if it is?
Did any *buyer* get busted?
You wouldn't care if you were buying from the CIA? Ok. Rock on cowboy. You need a fix and they need some walking round money.
I'll keep doing business the old fashioned way.
Silk road closure was never ABOUT drugs. The Gov could give a fuck less about that. It was around for years before they suddenly decided to "close" it. BC had been getting loads more attention, and Silk Road was an example of how REAL people can transact OUTSIDE the pre-approved system. THIS is the reason it was closed. A show of force and nothing else. Play by the prescribed rules or else.
Drugs? Thats a fucking cover story. Besides, the CIA needs the revenue. ;-P
Don't know ... but they have your ass if they ever want it. Someone has to be the next corpse in the next Obama false flag event.
I don't watch a lot of T.V., but when I do it's real shows... Stuff like the first 48; something that is real and what is reality other than a show like CSI. I feel a lot of what goes on today in economics, mainstream media, and polictics is a joke like CSI... It's an illusion of bullshit that people create to make people feel safe... Safe sucks... Who wants to be safe...? Who plays CoDMW and says hey keep me safe...? Honestly I'm tired from working a shit job all day... Why I said this here idk... What I do know is bring demoniod back, 1776, and it's time to stand up and do something rather than sit idle by and type some bullshit on a screen for people to read. Anyone wasting their time on a shit job is a sucker... Really anyone wasting time on a job is a sucker. Lets band together overcome DC terriosm....
~ Anyone NSA agent reading this can suck a :D son... :P
Hold on there cowbiy. I have a pretty good job making real shit for real people and I make nearly $100k a year doing it. I don't like everything about it but its good money, easy work and I am at the final year of raising a son alone and he will be a shooting star. I hope.
I hate these motherfuckers as much as the next guy and I look forward to seeing some real patriots stepping up to the plate to do the "job" . Im past military age but Ive got the will and a few ways and I am ready.
Out.
Unfortunately, there are too few thinkers, doers and protagonists and too many sheeple that need to be led and many of them into dope. To awaken these people is nearly impossible given the technological distractions of late, TV and free mierda.gov
Hopefully, the system will self implode/self distract without firing a shot. Avoid taxation (not evade) stack gold and silver, buy only what you need and .... (enter your own additional versions here)
A Catherine Austin Fitts puts it, go win-win. Do something that makes a profit, and also makes everyone's life better. Don't feed the tapeworm. Go through your life and see in what ways you are feeding the globalist and then eliminate it. Try not to deal with any of the Primary Dealers for example. Either kiss up to the tapeworm or refuse to feed it. Those in the middle of the road will be run over.
Ill stick to legally exchanging btc for phyz. Seems like a ciaduh ploy.
SAY MY NAME!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy_DASt7hDs
if anyone knows of a cool and trusted human proxy- let me know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di5NSU5yuKE
Time heals all wounds.
Coke should not be illegal.
The soda? Of course it should.....;-P
So now that the DEA has both Drugs and Bitcoins....why would you give them your address? Gotta have somewhere to ship it to right?
This site is run by FBI.
LOL!
I'm not a Bitcoin fan, but if it fucks over the crooks at the FED, the Treasury, and the small penis momma's tit-sucking Constitution raping Homonculi at the NSA I'm all for it!
And
small penis momma's tit-sucking Constitution raping Homonculi
Why I read ZH at 6am... LOL Homunculi... :-)
+1 for 'homunculi' reference - plural of 'Homunculus'.
Governments should be replaced with software.
Hello, we're from Cyberdyne Systems and we're here to help.
Do a DNS WHOIS and I think you'll find Eric Holder as the registrant of this one.
I quit smoking weed a couple of months back but not because I could not get it or needed to quit. I simply chose to quit. You can quit smoking weed anytime you want. I still prefer the old school way of getting high. Smoke some your buddies chamber pot and tell him not to be a cheap ass.:-)
Good luck with that one Statists. Pricks that you .govs are.
I can piss in a jar for anyone and it is clean save for the fact that it would still be piss in jar.
I will smoke the weed again one day. What are you going to do about it goverement? Huh?
Drugs are for people who haven't figured out how to live full lives and need an escape from reality. I drink some alcohol so I fall into that category.
Thanks for that post, Preachy McSermon. I liked how you went from saint to sinner faster than one could say "hypocrite."
The lessons of Liberty Reserve, and the Department of Justice's battle against the offshore online gambling industry are not being learnt.
Those that seek to regulate Bitcoin, will be charged by the Department of Justice (retrospectively) for facilitating money laundering and aiding criminal activity. There will be no getting away from it; this time is not different.
These drug websites and online gambling websites, in which people from the US boast about using Bitcoin anonymously, to evade the U.S authorities, present a significant problem for Bitcoin going forward.
Why? Bitcoin is the elitist bankers' wet dream. It is a fully electronic global fiat currency.
"Bitcoin is the elitist bankers' wet dream."
Makes you wonder why the Tylers are pushing it so hard. Bitcoin miners must be paying them a lot but whoring should have it's limits.
Tyler wants a new Mercedes.
Over.
"Makes you wonder why the Tylers are pushing it so hard"
Pushing it? Heck, these yahoos were dragged here kicking and screaming. Their lack of early coverage nearly made them irrelevant. They had no choice. You must not have been around here for very long.
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Sometimes you make sense, sometimes you type gibberish.
Guess what you did this time?
Over.
IT"S A TRAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on it's obvious this site is now run by the FBI . Purchasing illegal drugs is a crime as much as selling it .
and attempting to buy drugs from the FBI will land you in jail . And if you where stupid enough to sing in to the website using
your PGP key i'm sorry to advise you it's been captured and all your bitcoins are now FBI property .
Classic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVnArp9ZE0
That's bullshit. Bitcoin is a shield, a digital shield of invisibility, anonymously allowing you to do anything you want especially fucking the Feds!
Over.
Feels kinda weird that 1 bitcoin buys a pound of silver.
About as "weird" as 270 fiat dollars buying a pound of silver.
"the Web’s most popular bazaar for anonymous narcotics sales, the new site uses the anonymity tool Tor"
There's been an unusual peak of TOR users lately... Thanks NSA people
If anyone here has been to the old Silk Road website , and it seems to me that's about one per cent of the posters here then you will know that there is plenty of advice on using encryption services and escrow accounts to keep yourself under the radar.
Someone said once
The more you tighten your fingers lord vadar the more planets/people will slip through your fingers
I hope so
The NSA has cracked TOR, and bitcoin is easily traceable, I wouldn't be surprised if the NSA didn't create "silk road 2", if I were the NSA I would.
Great. Good on them. Now can they do something to make my silver worth millions too?
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Did anyone here consider............may, just maybe it is the FEDS?
Call me silly for thinking that Silk Road 2.0 is probably either a CIA front for drug dealing or an FBI sting operation or BOTH. The problem with the original Silk Road is that the government hates competition.
Buy your dope the old-fashioned way; in bulk at Langley.
These idiots will have bitcoins outlawed in no time.
These idiots can outlaw anything they want. That doesn't mean they can stop it.
Epic meet Fail
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let's get back to finance instead of monkey business.
O'TAY!!?
Over.