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The Truth About "If You Like Your Plan, You Can Keep Your Plan"

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Submitted by F.F.Wiley of Cyniconomics blog,



Bit by bit, we’re learning more about President Obama’s broken promise that you can keep your health insurance if you like it, which was repeated at least two dozen times in recent years.

As reported last week by NBC’s Lisa Myers and Hannah Rappleye, the administration knew to expect the current wave of policy cancellations for “at least three years.” NBC cited estimates of about 7 to 11 million cancellations:

Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC News that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law.


One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”

None of this should come as a shock to the Obama administration.

Last weekend, The Wall Street Journal added the news that Obama’s pledge was actively debated by his advisory team. Some advisers objected to the pledge, knowing it wasn’t accurate, only to be overruled by “political aides.”

All of this raises the question: What should we call such a deliberate deception?

Did Obama merely misspeak, as claimed by The New York Times editorial board?

Or, is he guilty of an out-and-out lie?

The WSJ’s James Taranto stopped short of the “L” word in his “Best of the Web” column yesterday, but otherwise hit the nail on the head:

To misspeak means to express oneself imperfectly or incorrectly. It implies either a careless choice of words or an unintended candor (as in a “Freudian slip”). Obama did not misspeak. As The Wall Street Journal reported over the weekend, the slogan was the result of careful deliberation.



Suppose the deliberations the Journal describes had taken place in a corporate suite rather than a government one and had concerned a commercial rather than a political advertising slogan. In that case, we’d be talking about a criminal conspiracy to defraud consumers.

In other words, Obama’s pledge was no different to, say, JPMorgan’s misrepresentations about the toxic mortgages it sold to unwitting investors. Fraudulent mortgage claims were surely discussed within JPM, just as Obama’s team debated the health insurance promise. Moreover, any internal concerns about the mortgage fraud were certainly squashed, just like the reservations expressed by Obama’s more truthful advisers.

But the consequences of Obama’s false advertisements are worse than those of private institutions such as JPM. In an economy that’s awash in misinformation – which is basically any economy – we can at least protect our interests against those of other private entities. We can walk away from claims that don’t pass the sniff test. If we learn we’ve been fooled, we can take our business elsewhere. Finally, we can turn to the courts for compensation.

None of these options are realistic, though, when the transgressor happens to hold the title, President of the United States. Under our new, more socialistic approach to health care, our only choice is to play by Obama’s rules. We also have to accept that information about those rules is tightly controlled by his team. Which means it’s crafted to protect his popularity and legacy above other considerations including the truth.

Just as Taranto didn’t go so far as to use the “L” word in his column yesterday, neither did any of the other mainstream media reports we reviewed. There were plenty of carefully worded euphemisms, but presumably it’s not polite to say the president told a lie.

We’ll show no such restraint:  Obama told a blatant lie, which he then continued to repeat.  It’s not the first time he’s lied, but this was an absolute whopper.

And while Taranto was right to compare his deceit to corporate fraud, we’ll add that we have no recourse against the president’s lies, unlike in the private sector. Therefore, Obama’s actions are more demoralizing and destructive than those of corporate fraudsters.


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Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:17 | 4126572 Everybodys All ...
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What else do you expect from a Marxist con man?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:19 | 4126579 fightthepower
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Fuck you Yellen!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:21 | 4126586 Pladizow
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Polititians and diapers should be changed often, and for the same reason!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:25 | 4126606 Hippocratic Oaf
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What about the big fuckin crybaby Dimon? He stays. As long as he makes his people a dollar and gets fined 50 cents, he's all good.

Oh, and thats why he's richer than you.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:33 | 4126638 hedgeless_horseman
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Only idiots believed the lie when it was told.

Nearly every business over 50 employees will be
effectively forced to reduce, not increase, nor keep the same base level of benefits
in order to afford the new premiums.  Nearly everyone is going to see
higher deductibles, higher co-insurance, and fewer covered procedures. 

It is simple math.

The haves get less and pay more so more of the have nots can have a little more.

Net-net, the insurance companies are the big winners for three reasons.

  1. Guarantee profits
  2. Eliminate competition
  3. Bigger market for the product
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:34 | 4126655 Sudden Debt
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Why doesn't Obama just print the money and make it free for everybody?!


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:55 | 4126711 hedgeless_horseman
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Why doesn't Obama just print the money and make it free for everybody?

Free?  Ha!  Because Obama is a puppet of the fascists, not a marxist, communist, nor socialist.

Healthcare costs are getting shoved onto the backs of labor, and off the P&L of business.



Obama / Buffett

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:55 | 4126742 Woodyg
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Bingo! Tell me why at this late date people still trot out the "socialist" term when whatbthe Obummer adminis is Pure Fascist -
Food safety - Monsatan vp
Jobs czar - GE
Etc etc

If he's a socialist where's the Union support? Nowhere -

TPP? That one will rewrite labor, safety and environmental laws in favor of corporations OVER democracy -

That my friends is FASCIST.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:29 | 4126905 DOT
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The Unions provide both cash and organizational support to Organizing for Obama. They are continuing to accept the Progressive march towards more federal power as long as exemptions are made on their behalf.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:36 | 4126935 onewayticket2
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Sure, plenty of people knew obama was full of it when he said this...but for anyone who claimed he was full of it, they were met with a swift accusation of being a "racist" who "hated the president and would make wild, baseless claims only to try to hurt his historic presidency"

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:55 | 4127300 stuman
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Because the majority don't know the difference ;)

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:26 | 4126890 TeamDepends
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Soros for Minister of Truth.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:54 | 4127009 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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feudalists might be better applied here.... it is clear his handlers or manipulators (not all are hands on) are helping remove wealth from this country and reestablishing the old crown heads (so to speak) in europe... the only reason obama has not been assassinate is because he is going a long... lincoln and kennedy did the opposite and look what happened

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:13 | 4127089 RSloane
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Thanks HH, that sums it up perfectly.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:14 | 4127094 Cruel Aid
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How about the hit to christmas when the only ones who pay for ocare, without getting half of it covered, let the cost settle in.

Sounds like lots of em will get a huge price break as the economy stands.

Well maybe they will spend it on christmas.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:37 | 4126670 Anusocracy
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A study done in the 90s concluded that what it took to be a successful President is to be able to lie and be believed.

Unfortunately for Obama, the government can't bury the truth for 50 or 60 years this time.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:41 | 4126684 Sudden Debt
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Another study also showed that CEO's and politicians didn't realize they where telling a lie in 75% of all cases.

And also 75% of them liked golf more than they do sex...


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:53 | 4126730 insanelysane
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The lie is actually a strategy and it works because the context of the lie is lost with time.

At the time that the lie, "if you like it, you can keep it", was being told, the country was evenly divided or slanted against Obamacare.  In order to neutralize the opposition, the lie was born because at least 1/3 of the population figured, well this law doesn't affect me.  The result was a razor thin passage of the law.

The strategy continues as only the private insurance was affected this year.  So we get the mantra of how only a few people have actually lost plans and that the new plans are so much better.

Next year the real challenge begins because the majority of the people that thought "if you like it, you can keep it" was true will be affected and it will occur right before the elections.  However, I expect the pols to somehow delay it another year or cause some type of chaos that will push the open enrollment from October to late November or December.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:30 | 4126910 Pure Evil
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Yep, that'll be called the great stock market crash of 2014. Just in time to destroy all Republican hopes. Not that the stupid party doesn't deserve to go extinct.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:53 | 4127295 analyzer_66
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Which delivers us to the amended version of the 3 biggest lies ever told...
1) I will not come in your mouth
2) the check is in the mail
3) if you like your policy; you can keep it

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:16 | 4126843 Silver Bully
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Jane, you ignorant slut.

He has 2 daughters so he already has 2 possible heirs. Ever hear of a queen before?


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:24 | 4126885 Winston Churchill
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Trayvon is dead.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:32 | 4126647 kchrisc
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And people should out grow politicians like they do diapers.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:35 | 4126664 Sudden Debt
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well... in the end... everybody grows back into diapers...

and if you like McDonalds hamburgers... leakage... GROWS YOU BACK INTO DIAPERS EVEN FASTER!!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:35 | 4126662 James-Morrison
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Nixon's lie resulted in his impeachment.

Obama's lies, surrounding this bill should result in at least the same.

Once you permit blatant lies, for political gain, you seal shut the door to freedom.

There are more attractive banana republics to move to right now.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:37 | 4126675 Sudden Debt
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well... that door was closed with the Bush administration.

actually... the Clinton administration when they threw the rulebook overboard for the stockmarket...

and now all the remaining rules for derivatives where also thrown overboard...

strange that it didn't hit frontpage last week...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:51 | 4126721 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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only if the used diapers can be used to change said politicians

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:20 | 4126580 GetZeeGold
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If there any fallout when you con millions of people?


I guess we'll soon find out.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:22 | 4126591 ArkansasAngie
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I have had private insurance. My plan is cancelled

Yes there will be fall out.

I will not be silent.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:24 | 4126597 LawsofPhysics
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make all the noise you want, unless you actually do something, nothing changes.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:31 | 4126643 Ignatius
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There's an 800lb Gorilla in the living room.

Your move.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:44 | 4126697 LawsofPhysics
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Well then, it looks like we're having gorilla for dinner.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:01 | 4126768 Ignatius
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You kill it... and I'll see what I can do in the kitchen.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:42 | 4126966 chunga
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“we’ll add that we have no recourse against the president’s lies, unlike in the private sector”.

What? Recourse?


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:57 | 4127308 analyzer_66
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European recourse ..? African recourse?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:27 | 4126892 chdwlch1
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You didn't kill that gorilla!?!?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:27 | 4127156 KnightTakesKing
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If you kill it, for God's sake don't post pictures of it hanging upside down!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:24 | 4126599 Everybodys All ...
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I'm curious to know if you voted for the president/er dictator.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:02 | 4126774 ArkansasAngie
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I did not vote for Obushma

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:56 | 4127019 jerry_theking_lawler
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Are you sure....I say this because I am absolutely positive I did not vote for him, so if 51% of the population voted for him, then it must've been you....that or Diebold REALLY did have an impact in the election.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:24 | 4127420 TeamDepends
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104% of registered voters in some districts can't be wrong!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:17 | 4127107 RSloane
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Hang in there Angie, what happened to you and everyone else getting cancellation notices is an abomination that can only be rectified by Laws' guillotines.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:47 | 4126705 thewhigs
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"Thanks" to the new crappy law, my wife and I got the "termination" letters as well. Of note, we are on two different insurances. Looks like this is going to get ugly, reeaaaaaaaal ugly!



Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:42 | 4126689 Sudden Debt
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nah... in 99,99% of all cases it doesn't.


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:50 | 4126717 DosZap
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In most cases you can KEEP your plan, IF you can afford it.(Hardeeharrharr)

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:48 | 4127487 RichardP
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Did the Affordable Care Act cancel those individual plans?  Or was it the Health Insurance Companies that cancelled the plans?  Remember Liz Fowler?

For a small increase in the premium, the insurance companies could fix these individual policies.  But the healthcare insurance companies would rather cancel the policies and force the people into much higher payments.  Why?  Because they can.  And they get more money that way.

President Obama said the only thing he could say:  The ACA does not force people to change health insurance policies or doctors.  That is a true statement.  It is the health insurance companies and doctors that are forcing this.  President Obama was not / is not speaking for them, because he.  He was / is speaking for the ACA

The truth of my statement can be seen in the legislation that is being considered in Congress that would force the health insurance companies to stop doing this.  Whether it passes or not is not the point.  The point is that Congress actually knows where the problem lies (the health insurance companies, not the ACA), in spite of the political rhetoric being thrown about.

I agree with others that he could have been more clear that he was speaking only about the ACA, and more emphatic that he did not have any control over how the health insurance companies and doctors would respond to that legislation.  But I think a reasonable man would assume that he was only speaking about that which he could control - the ACA.  It does not contain language that requires people to change insurances or doctors.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:52 | 4127560 ncdirtdigger
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Wipe that Obamajizz off your chin, you fucking apologist.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 14:04 | 4127602 RichardP
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This is not about Obama.  And I personally think the ACA is a horrid piece of legislation on many levels but this is not about that either.  It is about two questions:

- Does the ACA require the insurance companies to cancel policies and doctors to drop patients?

- Why is the Congress preparing to consider legslation to stop the health insurance companies from cancelling policies if the problem does not lie with the insurance companies?

Note this completed sentence from my previous post.  Could not fix it there because the comment underneath it locked me out: President Obama was not / is not speaking for them (health insurance companies), because he could not in any way know how they would respond, nor does he have any control over how they respond.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:28 | 4126739 sgorem
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WHEN AND WHERE DOES THE CIVIL UNREST BEGIN? I missed out on Woodstock 'cause I woke up drunk & hungover with some rinsed out, "chew my arm off ugly", one-night-stand bar butterfly. Missed my ride into infamy.  I DON'T want to be left behind on this RESET!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:47 | 4127261 unrulian
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Both my arms are stumps...and be damned if i regret a single one of them :)

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 09:32 | 4157296 sgorem
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:)...know what you mean there unruley. i ain't got no legs either.........i never learned.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:03 | 4127333 analyzer_66
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Bill Brassky held his own Woodstock after the crash of '87 • then he dropped acid and wrote a new algo and quadrupled his returns.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:13 | 4126826 Freddie
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Young whites who voted for this deserve what they are getting. The old people and baby boomers who love O deserve all the shit that is coming.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:22 | 4127129 RSloane
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If you think back to the time he was first elected, if you didn't vote for him you were a racist. Nevermind that he was an obscure politician for only a short time before running for president. You had to chuck reason overboard and vote for him or face racism angst.  Hell, Obama's campaign even crucified Bill Clinton for being a racist because he was voting for not the black guy. I'm not excusing anyone who voted for him, but the context at the time was important. Hopefully the country has grown up past that. Wishful thinking, I know.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 15:29 | 4127986 Kirk2NCC1701
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We "deserved" being lied to, and having been deceived?  I don't bloody think so!

If you recall, after the Bush-Cheney 8-year fiasco, this guy actually sounded smart, decent and reasonable.  By your rationale, those who voted for that Shrub-retard and Dick-scumbag also "deserved" what they got?  I don't accept that either.  All these guys are front-men and puppets of the same Masters who run the Shadow Gov.

'mericans never cease to be suckered.  By bankers, politicians, revivalist charlatans, or a range of snake-oil salesmen.  What do you expect when the majority happily join the brainwashing programs of their young, with myths like the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus, when they still believe in Angels as adults, and send young men to bleed and die, so that old men can enjoy the 'good life'?  People need to grow the fuck up.  They need to stop believing in non-existent and invisible entities, and deal with the real world and the real universe.

Fuck "USA, USA, USA"!  And fuck "For God & Country"!  Neither gives a shit about you or anyone you know -- no matter how much you may grovel or 'serve', no matter how much you may bleed or 'love' them.  But most ppl/sheeple can't handle the real world, so they'd rather trade in their thoughts, freedoms and work for their small part in the national Theater of the Absurd.


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:43 | 4126971 Eireann go Brach
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Pathetic lying man!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:04 | 4127050 Pairadimes
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"If I like your plan, you can keep your plan."


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:06 | 4127060 Nothing but the...
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Obama is a snake who speaks with forked tongue. For the sake of America he needs to be removed from office.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:15 | 4127098 NewAmericaNow
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A nation always gets a governmnet and leadership it asks for and deserves

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:19 | 4127115 Kirk2NCC1701
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Get it straight:  He's not a "communist".  History has proven that they are too dumb and short-lived.

He's a puppet of the Oligarchs.  American Neo-Aristocracy.  You know... the guys with secret societies and who've been around for centuries?  :-)

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 15:08 | 4127909 pupton
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More like "Two Turds in a Sock"

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 14:45 | 4131875 shiftless
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I was in the coffee shop the other day when I heard the owner say to someone "but I thought we were supposed to be able to keep our plans." Looked over and he was arguing with some 50 year old fuckers sitting at the table. The one guy (pseudo-intellectual) says "well, that was an unfortunate choice of wording" and then goes on to explain that the coffee shop owner can "get subsidies" if his rates are too expensive. Ever notice how these shit for brains always trot out that same line any time somebody opposes Obamacare? Like I'm totally dead set against it, but not for ideological reasons, only cause I personally am not getting enough free loot. What a fucking tool.

It was about that time the owner walked off, presumably in disgust at the idea of robbing Peter to pay Paul. I said loudly "subsidies are theft!" The guy turned around and started saying "that is a mischaracterization" which I rebutted with "no, it's the truth" a few times. The guy starts saying "well that's what they said about social security, medicare, etc" which I informed him are likewise failures and travesties. I told them they were assholes for being so stupid as to load my generation up and beyond with massive debt to pay for their idiotic entitlement programs.

It ended up devolving into a heated shouting match which ended by my stating that this argument would only be resolved by a shooting war aka 3rd American Revolution, and that these people were surrounded by propaganda yet were too stupid to see it. At this point I realized we were causing a scene so packed up my shit and left out of respect for the owner, who wished me a good day as I walked out.

I can't wait for the day comes that these pieces of shit are cut off from their medicare and social security and other slave programs they're so fucking stupid to have become dependent on. Don't come to MY door asking for food, dirtbags. Can't wait for the rotting, starved bodies to pile up in the streets. Mother Nature needs to flush these turds.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:18 | 4126576 TeamDepends
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It is doubtful whether Barry can actually discern between truth and untruth.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:21 | 4126583 GetZeeGold
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Invoking the "I'm a idiot" defense may be a good call right about here.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:33 | 4126640 GetZeeGold
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Damn that sucker sure can lie.


You would think it would be embarrassing.....but it doesn't seem to affect him!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:42 | 4126688 TeamDepends
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Is it wrong to reach out and literally bitch-slap someone who is planning on voting for Hillary?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:51 | 4126706 GetZeeGold
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At this point.....what difference does it make?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:37 | 4126940 Pure Evil
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When it comes to bitch slappin' Hillary, this just might make you feel better.


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:15 | 4128507 vulcanraven
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I think the exact same thing every day...

The "I'm ready for Hillary" Facebook pages are already popping up, If people thought Obama's '08 campaign was bad they aint seen nothin yet.

It's going to be progressive liberal hell in 2016, and I live in LA.

Fuck my life.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:43 | 4126691 Unprepared
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Help me refresh my memory, here. Which Constitutional amendment grants the right of pleading the "Idiocy"?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:50 | 4126716 Kirk2NCC1701
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He learned well from his mentor: Bill Clinton.
"I did NOT have sex with that woman!" -Wm J. Clinton

Even Jon Stewart took shots at him for this last night. Personally, I prefer a cooked goose over a lame duck. Better yet would be his active removal from office. Impeachment, for example.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:16 | 4126842 Freddie
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Keep watching TV and Hollwyood beacuse they support O 110%.  You viewership helps your serfdom but dumb Trekkers should already know that.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:42 | 4127463 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ouch!  Uncalled for.  I'm very selective as to what I watch on TV, and I can't/don't speak for Trekkers.  Aside from James or Kirk perhaps being my real name, I simply use it as a metaphor/vehicle for looking at problems from a different angle than that which is force-fed to the masses, and happily consumed by them.  I seek the Truth (on ZH mostly), and will boldly go (with my questions) where few dare to go.  Surely you can relate?

Freddie, you do realize that you're using a Hollywood icon (Check Norris) also?  The irony does not escape me.  Now where would your hero and his lifestyle be w/o Sleazywood*?  Probably teaching at a local gym.  As Bruce Lee's assistant.  ;-)

* Will agree with you 100% on the sleaziness and trash that has become H'wood.  Saw a program about its secret life last week.  The kind of decadence their elite indulges in (at private clubs), is beyond belief.  As the commentator said: "If demons wanted go loose on that town, they'd discover that there's little they could do that hasn't been done already."  All we get is now is a steady diet of: demons, ghosts, spirits, witches, zombies, psychos, killers, sci-fi and monsters.  When we're not pretending to be arm-chair quarterbacks, coaches and sportsmen, or wannabe stars, or watching "sitcoms" that berate men (especially white boys and men) as being stupid, as unperceptive and insecure wienies, clowns, jerks, bullies or buffoons.  It's "Open Season" for this demographic 24/7/365.

This leaves a 'normal' person or responsible parent with only a few channels and programs of redeeming educational and social value (e.g., History, Nature, Nat-Geo, PBS or Science channels.  And DIY programs like This Old House, some cooking and gardening shows, and 60 minutes, PBS Frontline, PBS Nova, Mythbusters, or Ancient Aliens.  Or reruns of Bugs Bunny & Friends, Bonanza, Little House on The Prairie, The Waltons, MASH, Happy Days, or Cheers.  SNL has so much crap and filler in it, that it can easily be redacted and compressed into a few hours. IMHO.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:30 | 4126911 TeamDepends
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No, not impeached because then everything he has done stands.  He needs to be arrested and dragged out in cuffs.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:20 | 4126581 XAU XAG
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I think there is more than 2 peas in the POD!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:20 | 4126582 toe
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he obviously mispoke. obama told me, dont listen to bloggers. He made a mistake when speaking.  this fucking idiot is so full of shit.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:23 | 4126593 GetZeeGold
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What are you doing here? You should reading more HuffPo.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:29 | 4126624 MontgomeryScott
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:21 | 4126588 Running On Bing...
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And now what? We all say 'shucks' and tomorrow it's forgotten?


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:23 | 4126592 LawsofPhysics
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"Some animals are more equal than others" -  Animal farm.


Roll the motherfucking guillotines,

nothing changes otherwise.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:46 | 4127530 Kirk2NCC1701
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You know, I'm thinking of getting a T-Shirt made:  RTMFG, NCO.  Seriously.

Then, when people ask me about it, I can tell them... 

/... and 'blame' LoP. /  ;-)  ;-)

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:23 | 4126595 MontgomeryScott
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It's the boys he likes who lie (on the bed) while he's ALWAYS ON TOP.

It's not sex if he doesn't get you pregnant.

So, Soetoro's fucking us (AGAIN). NO, he's not! I told you, it's NOT SEX if he doesn't impregnate least, according to his 'handlers'...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:07 | 4126796 Lumberjack
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Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:23 | 4126596 Seize Mars
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Congratulations America
Y'all are in deep shit

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:27 | 4126615 LawsofPhysics
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Allow me to correct your "southern vernacular" - that should be "all ya'll", the plural of "ya'll".

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:33 | 4126649 MontgomeryScott
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Yusta'could git this fancy language...y'all!

Mon'back, now, ye'heeh?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:34 | 4126659 Ness.
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In my neck of the woods it's "alls ya'lls".  Double plural ;)

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:43 | 4126692 Seize Mars
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Apparently, in Pennsylvania they have "yins."
It's like "you-uns" or something. So instead of "y'all, " one might say "yins are in deep shit."

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:42 | 4126962 Pure Evil
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You Pennslytukians are sure bitter clingers yall.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 22:34 | 4129473 Seize Mars
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Ok you lost me.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:27 | 4126608 NoDebt
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Well, the sheep seem to be very accepting of this new lie, as with those before it (Benghazi), whopper though it may be.  By which I mean, I see no crowd storming the White House to drag Obama out for a "street level meeting."  I hear no further calls to repeal it; indeed, I hear inceasing calls to "reform" it which merely means the concept has been fully accepted, it's now just down to tweakig the details.

This lie would only matter if it came out before the 2012 electons.  Not now.  It's too late now.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:31 | 4126636 Everybodys All ...
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It's a little early. Watergate didn't get going for quite sometime. This is such a big and impactful lie on everyday life it's going to be hard especially for his followers to even get their heads around it I think.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:55 | 4126745 James-Morrison
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The more damaging lie that hasn't been realized yet, because of the inept job of IT procurement/project management.

That lie is: your policies were cancelled because they are replaced with better plans. Your cancelled policies were "bad apples".

Obamacare policies are an absolute joke.

The only "affordable" bronze plans have very limited access to Doctors and hospitals. The deductibles will bankrupt most people without 6k -10k hanging around. Out-of-network procedures, will flat out rob you.

That is the bigger lie. My "bad apple" policy has been replaced with SHIT balls served on a bed of impeachable lies.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:56 | 4126747 earnyermoney
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You think a Blue teamer is going to the White House like Red teamer, Baker, went to Nixon? LOL My money's on Hell Freezing over first.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:27 | 4126893 Freddie
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C*A dropped the dime on Nixon through their Mockingbird outlet (Ben Bradley) Wa Post.  Why did Nixon have to go? Tarriffs. 10% import tariff.  Cheesepopes did not want that.  Watergate was a smokescreen.  

Why do Presidents get whacked?   When they want to back money with gold and silver or double cross the cheese popes.

Presidents whacked do to Central banks/gold backed money

1. McKinley - supported bimetalism (backing money with gold & silver)

2. Abe

3. JFK

C*A poppy tried to whack Reagan because he was not in their Bonzmen club.


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 14:00 | 4127595 Kirk2NCC1701
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+1.  You probably know that the Secret Service (SS) actually works for the FED, but most ppl don't. 

Originally, their core mission was to track down $$$ counter-fitters.  They also became the personal bodyguards/Centurions of the POTUS later on.  Not only do the "bad" guys no longer get access to the President, neither to ANY "good" guys.  He's totally trapped in their Bubble, and his "speeches" have been reduced to "Telepromt Twerks".  --> 100% Puppet of the Shadow_Gov.

Funny, but all they have to do is pull back on their coverage and -- boom! -- the Big Guys gets it (from a range of ex-Snipers or Useful Tools, who don't last long either).  Per your Exhibits 1,2,3 above.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:17 | 4126847 ArkansasAngie
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Congress is going to hold Obushma accountable?

Not before we hold them responsible.

ABDR -- Anything but Democrats or Republicans.

I'll be making donations this year -- whomever is not an encumbants

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:44 | 4126698 Anusocracy
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Some people think it would be a better world without all the lies, some think with all the lies.

It's a just question of how badly they want control.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:31 | 4126610 Jayda1850
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The linguistic acrobatics one has to do to defend O's promise as being truthful is laughable to the point of being surreal. His supporters would rather come out and admit the truth that they believe that the government can make make better decisions for individuals than they can for themselves than admit this man lied.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 17:29 | 4128400 RichardP
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The linguistic acrobatics one has to do to defend O's promise as being truthful is laughable to the point of being surreal.

To prove that O's promises are actual lies, you would have to prove that the ACA contains language that requires the health insurance companies to cancel the private insurance plans.  Good luck with that one.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:54 | 4126618 Mercury
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In other words, Obama’s pledge was no different to, say, JPMorgan’s misrepresentations about the toxic mortgages it sold to unwitting investors.


Oh boy.

The difference is no one made you buy one of JPM's mortgage products.

Hopefully there is an adult in your life that helps you make big decisions

because there isn’t much critical reasoning skill on display here.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:56 | 4127020 Pure Evil
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Someone needs to brush up on the use of a metaphorical allegory.

Metaphor is a phrasal expression, which is used to make a comparison of unrelated objects and actions.

Allegory is a story where there are some obvious parallels and lessons from the comparitive situation.

(Metaphorical allegory is an uncommon usage - A story that has a deeper or more general meaning in addition to its surface meaning. Allegories are composed of several symbols or metaphors.)

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:59 | 4127182 Mercury
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Here’s a metaphorical allegory for you:

Excusing the conflation of completely unrelated situations and events as the deft employment of a literary device is a much too generous extension of the benefit of the doubt.

By means of exactly this kind of foolishness en masse we end up with people like Barak Obama and Jamie Dimon in the absurdly powerful positions they are in.



Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:33 | 4126621 Shizzmoney
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Under our new, more socialistic approach to health care, our only choice is to play by Obama’s rules

The ACA is *not* a socialistic health care system - only one system exists in the world that actually reflects actual socialism, and that is single payer health care. 

The ACA is actually a construct to further *privatize* health care in America.  The only thing "centrally planned" in this "socialist" style are the premiums, which will go up at a lower YOD clip.....but they will still be GOING UP and will still be paid by those who use the healthcare....not by a massive amount of taxes collected from the wealthy to pay for it.

If you have to pay an insurer a premium to get healthcare, if you have to pay the hospital out of *your* own pocket - that's not a socialist health care system.  That is a privatized exchange. 

These aren't Obama's rules; the motherfucker didn't write the bill.  All he is paid to do is schill for it.  The insurers and big pharma, wrote the fucking bill.  It's *their* rules we play under (which the government enforces). 

Just because the government enforces privatized healthcare, doesn't mean it is a socialist construct.

The only redistribution of wealth here is from the bottom (the masses who use healthcare) to the top (doctors/hositpals/lobbyists/insurance companies).  A socialist health care system, does the opposite. 

People in Canada, Denmark, Norway, etc. do not complain about the costs in their single payer systems because they are SINGLE PAYER.  The government eats the costs.  Granted, there are cons of a single payer system (wait times, innovation due to controlled profits, quality of care, even favoritism), but COST to the INDIVIDUAL (and access) is NOT one of them.

The subsidies (Medicare, ppl under 26) given to those in the bill are just crumbs compared to the MASSIVE amounts of money Wall Street and the Health Insurers will make off of this bill. 

Look at the fucking stock of United Health Care during the last 5 years (one of Obama's biggest donors).  Do you think if the health care system actually reflected socialist health care, that these assholes would be making money hand over fist?

If you are going to claim something is socialist, at least have an idea of what the fuck socialism is, before doing so.  k, thx


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:37 | 4126663 Everybodys All ...
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The first step was to con the insurers and when this system is shown to not function the insurance companies will be blamed and a single payer system will be pushed into even your view. For the sake of us all open your eyes and listen to Obama's own words on single payer.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:54 | 4126713 GetZeeGold
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Word up dawg.....all this is a con job for single payer.


Make it so painful.....everyone just gives up and says......screw it, we'll take it.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:23 | 4126878 GMadScientist
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That'd still be better than having to pay higher taxes to make UHC and BlueCross filthy rich-er.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:05 | 4126740 Shizzmoney
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listen to Obama's own words on single payer

You mean how he and his administration fought tooth and nail against it, and how Rahm Emmanuel's Mayoral campaign financing base (United Health Care) was rewarded for his work in doing so?

Anything Obama said on supporting single payer was just to appease the dumb liberal masses.  He has no real qualms on actually trying to do so. And neither does his party. 

Pipe dreams and wolf tickets, which the Democratic party has always sold.

It's like when he tells Michelle she doesn't look fat in her dress before they go out; she obviously does, but just says so he won't hurt her feelings. 

If the man was honest, he wouldn't be in fucking office, guys.

It's a big level that sucks people into this "red v blue" debate that covers up the enraging corportism that both parties espouse to.

Word up dawg.....all this is a con job for single payer.

There will NEVER be single payer in the United States.  Not only will the insurers and pharma and the hospitals never allow it, the country is simply too big for a bureaucratic system like it.  Also, the country isn't based on this morality where everyone feels that people are "entitled" to get health care (despite going to church every Sunday and espousing about a guy in Jesus, who preached this exact thing.  #lolreligion).

If you get health care, you are lucky to do so, and that's what the real owners of this country want.

No one gives a shit if you get care or not.  When you get sick, you basically become a hostage to this current system, and what those who take of you want, is fiat.  Mounds and mounds of fiat. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:03 | 4127047 Everybodys All ...
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You are in for an awakening.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:41 | 4126687 MontgomeryScott
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Well, strictly speaking, you are right, but you are failing to comprehend the purpose of 'socialism' in the first place.

It is a construct which takes away the individual's RIGHT TO CHOOSE, and makes the government 'collective' more important. The works of the 'masters' are a great step in the understanding of its' true purpose.

I don't WANT 'insurance' in the first place.

WELL (you say), why should I have to pay for YOU because YOU don't want to give monies to a conglomerate that lines their individual pockets with the wealth of the ages, by talking people in to BEING SCARED of 'getting sick', and charts it all out with actuarial tables like the rigging of the slot machines in Las Vegas?

No, you are correct in stating that this is not 'strictly' 'socialism' in it's theoretical end form (which ultimately is a totalitarian ownership of ALL ASSETS, INCLUDING 'HUMAN RESOURCES'). It is a couple of steps MORE ADVANCED than that.


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:30 | 4126909 GMadScientist
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It all boils down to Americans' delusional expectation that they'll be able to live forever, fuck into their 90s, and look 18 while doing it.

As for the ACA, fascist is the most correct appellate for this monstrosity; a conglomeration of state and monopoly market powers to force the policy on the populace that is beneficial only to the former, dressed up as nationalistic nonsense ("healthcare is a human right!") to foil the sheeple into compliance. Not a drop of socialism to be found.

Socialists would raise taxes to fund state hospitals, like Cuba.


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:53 | 4126728 Anusocracy
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Just start referring to it as classic socialism.

You know, like they do for 'classic' liberalism.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:59 | 4126759 GernB
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Just because corporations are the ones abusing the governments monopoly power does not make it the private sector behind this. The private sector is where consumers call the shots not a. Unholy alliance between government and giant corporations designed to protect those corporations.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:01 | 4126773 earnyermoney
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ACA is a fascist health care system.


Wait Times, Lack of Innovation and quality of care are NOT COSTS to the INDIVIDUAL using the damn system?  LOL

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:28 | 4126623 johngerard
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Barry has always been a liar. It's the stock-in-trade of Community Organizers. You seem surprised...why would you expect anything else from him?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:30 | 4126637 q99x2
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Barry is a pathological lier and psychopathic war criminal. He is a sick fuck.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:35 | 4126660 Hedgetard55
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If those purple lips be flappin', Homie be a fibbin'.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:35 | 4126661 Uchtdorf
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Don't talk to me about the problems. We know what the problem is. We need to focus on the solutions.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:37 | 4126671 NIETSNEREM
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My 65 year old brother had his private insurance policy cancelled because it did not provide maternity coverage for his 63 year old wife. WTF?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:11 | 4126812 Hedgetard55
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Barry knows what is best for your brother and his wife, friend. Just roll with it.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:37 | 4126673 Fix It Again Timmy
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Washington, Congress, Wall Street, K Street, our judicial systems, and the MSM have become 21st century representations of the Mongol hordes - raping, pillaging, and robbing while convincing most Americans that they exist to serve them.  At least in the 13th century, people certainly recognized the threat and fought back as best they could....

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:09 | 4127074 Pure Evil
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Washington, Congress, Wall Street, K Street, our judicial systems, and the MSM are more like the plague the Mongols brought with them as they robbed, raped, and pillaged across the Asian stepps.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 14:42 | 4127804 OneTinSoldier66
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In my opinion Timmy has it right.


Regarding a plague... BANKERS are like a plague accross the land. BANKSTERS are the plague. Washington, Congress, Wall Street, K Street, our judicial systems, and the MSM are the ones spreading the the plauge.


Most of them are too stupid to know that they have caught the plague and need to go to the Natural/Individual Rights doctor to get cured. Probably because they think things come not from respecting Natural/Individual Rights, but from collectivist "Representative Democracy".

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:39 | 4126679 Trimmed Hedge
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Obama needs a cancellation letter...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:58 | 4127309 Emergency Ward
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Dear Healthcare Plan Member -- We are happy to inform you that your Gold-Plated Plan no longer meets Govt-Mandated standards.  It is hereby terminated.  You can replace it with a much better Triple-Platinum Family Plan.  Your income level exceeds the Govt-Mandated minimum/maximum eligibility requirements, therefore your new plan will be $500,000 per month with $3,000,000 lifetime deductable -- your previous doctor no longer accepts our plan, so we have taken the liberty of choosing a new family doctor for you and your loved ones.   Welcome to the plan.  P.S.  This is mandatory, enforceble by IRS garnishment.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:40 | 4126680 apberusdisvet
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I would imagine that, except for those with pre-existing conditions, the high deductibles of $10-12K on top of $1000/month payments for what is left of the upper middle class would indicate that many will opt out and pay the fine which, after all, is enforced (for now anyway) through a claim on any tax refunds.  I also don't see minimum wage young adults or college grads with any appreciable student loan debt signing up either.  The quotas necessary to support this control freak's wet dream will not be there.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:47 | 4126683 americanspirit
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While this asshole is in power those around him can and enthusiastically do intimidate and cajole dissenters, but once he is out of office I predict that the attacks (that are already being planned) on his legacy of deceitful, criminal behavior will commence. His legacy? Shame and disgrace. Once its writers are free from retaliation, history will write that this was the most disastrous president America has ever seen. And we will watch this story unfold for years to come as the reverberations of eight years of Obama shudder through this country and the world. It isn't too much to place Obama alongside the tyrants of history - Caligula, Stalin, Hitler - the only difference is that they slaughtered millions the old-fashioned way, by spilling blood, while this perversion of a human being has invented a new way to slaughter millions, by polluting and destroying the lifeblood of an entire country.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:43 | 4126969 Freddie
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I have a very few distant relatives who voted for him.  They cannot understand why I never call them and never will again.  F them and anyone who voted for this.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:47 | 4127254 Emergency Ward
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There are some that would push for a spot at Mt Rushmore for Obama.  I could perversely support that if they put a stupidly leering Bush, an evil, glaring LBJ and a scowling Nixon flanking Obama's vile, smirking countenance.  A real murderers' row.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:42 | 4126690 orangegeek
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you had me at "hope and change"

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:44 | 4126695 Unprepared
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"If you like YOUR plan, you can keep MY plan"

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:46 | 4126707 ptoemmes
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Oh the good ole days when things were not so nuanced - being facetious, but....he lied, they lied, they all lie - period.



Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:48 | 4126712 g'kar
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I wonder if this medical procedure will be covered by the ACA:


Cops probe man's butt after stop-sign violation

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:19 | 4126857 GMadScientist
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This is why I don't stop for cops anymore.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:45 | 4126977 g'kar
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Pretty disturbing news item.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:50 | 4126715 tedstr
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Really.  What's your point Tyler?  this is the way the world works today.  Tell a lie so big no one will believe it could be a lie and you'll get away with it.  If you're black, you just call your accusers racists and move on.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:52 | 4126723 “Rebellion to t...
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Why are people continually surprised and upset that all politicians are absolute whores and liars.

Let this piece of shit Obama disgrace himself and his esteemed legacy by standing back, and let events develop around him.

Those with big mouths who do not like to take responsibility for anything usually dig their own graves quickly.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:29 | 4127441 aardvarkk
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Not all politicians are absolute whores and liars.  The ones who aren't are easy to spot...they're the ones that Team Red and Team Blue can both agree are someone nobody should listen to.  Ron Paul comes to mind.  there are others who are less famous.  One is running in my state for congress on the Libertarian ticket.  I'm going to vote for him.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 17:39 | 4128424 RichardP
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Ron Paul comes to mind.

The plagiarist Ron Paul?  That Ron Paul?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:47 | 4126735 TheGermanGuy
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In totallitarian states, a lie is not defined by what is said, but by who said it.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:55 | 4126737 Mi Naem
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"Two Peas in a Pod"

...who leave us without a "pod" to "peas" in. 

Whew, sorry! Couldn't help it.  Gotta match? 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:57 | 4126750 ebworthen
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The near perfect deceptive statement, just replace "plan" with "X": 

"If you like your job, you can keep your job."

"If you like your savings, you can keep your savings."

"If you like your liberties, you can keep your liberties."

"If you like your life, you can keep your life."

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:06 | 4126794 James-Morrison
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War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
If you like your policy you can keep it.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 16:42 | 4128257 nc551
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*Slavery is freedom

You keep all the bad ones on the left and the good ones on the right.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:59 | 4126760 Widowmaker
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It's good to be the nigger in Chief.

With government like this, who needs truth?

"No one saw it coming!"

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:00 | 4126767 dunce
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All of obamas policies are based on fraud, lies, deceit, and the koran. Spell check says i should capitalize obama and koran, but in my book they are both curse words.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 13:32 | 4127456 aardvarkk
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Obama you too.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:02 | 4126775 TwoHoot
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Obamacare is not about Healthcare, it is about Insurance. Keep your eye on the ball.

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