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"Very Low" Obamacare Enrollment Admitted As Young People Just Say No

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For the first time today, in addition to previous anecdotal evidence that the first several days of the Obamacare rollout (with 248 enrollees in the first two days) have been an abysmal failure, and the days since have fared no better, HHS Secretary Sebelius finally admitted to the Senate Finance Committee that over a month after the rollout of, the enrollment figures have been "very low." Of course, being able to qualify the number didn't mean she could or would actually put it in numeric terms - it would have been simply too humiliating and may have forced her to finally do what so far nobody in the Obama administration has done: take responsibility for one after another failure (after all, for everything else, there's "Mr. Chairwoman getting to work") and resign. One thing, however, is certain, the "very low" number whatever it may be, is orders of magnitude below Obama's mission critical goal of enrolling 494,620 people in October, and another 706,600 for November.

Why is this critical? Because like any other Ponzi, this particular welfare program needs an influx of new registrants, especially young ones, to keep the funding coming in and succeed. Otherwise, not even all central bank chairmen getting to work around the globe creating wealth effects for a few hundred thousand people, or all false-flag, YouTube justified diversionary wars around the world, will do much to deflect attention from how the supposedly crowning achievement of Obama's two-term presidential career has disintegrated before everyone's eyes.

Politico has more on Sebelius' testimony before the Senate Finance Committee:

We intend to give you as much information as we can validate,” Sebelius said of the enrollment figures being released next week. She said the numbers will include both Medicaid and health plan enrollment in the new insurance exchanges. She said the numbers will cover “the first month of enrollment,” which began on Oct. 1.

She also intends to give more figures that she can fabricate but there is neither here nor there. All that matters is that she has her job. Kinda like Greece and the Euro.

Curiously it was not just republicans crucifying the HHS Secretary...

Republicans chastised Sebelius for what they called misleading testimony that the website would be working when it went live Oct. 1, and a broken promise that consumers could keep their coverage.


Sen. Pat Roberts, a Republican from Sebelius’s home state of Kansas, repeated his call for her to resign because of her poor leadership. Sebelius did not respond.


The top Republican on the committee, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), said Sebelius’s earlier testimony to the committee about the website’s readiness was “at best, misinformed.” He predicted more problems ahead and called for Sebelius to visit the committee once a month with status updates.


Several Republicans questioned the security and testing of the website, but Sebelius said that neither security consultants nor the administration felt those concerns warranted halting enrollment.


“No one suggested the risks outweighed the importance of moving forward,” she said, “including Mitre, who made recommendations to CMS as is required.” Mitre is a federally-funded nonprofit that handles much of the marketplace’s security.

... it was democrats as well - supposedly those facing stiff competition in the upcoming elections.

In the Finance committee, Democrats expressed vast “frustration” with the website. But they also had harsh words for the contracters tasked with building


I want you to burn their fingers and make them pay for not being responsible,” Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) told the secretary.

Just don't burn your own Madame Secretary: after all it is well-known that in Obama's administration the buck never stops with whoever is in charge - you see, they were never aware of the failures, ever. They only had full supervision over the successes, if any.

Of course, she wouldn't work for Obama if she didn't end it on a Hopiumy note:

Sebelius told the committee that the site will be repaired by the end of the month amid a “couple of hundred” functional fixes that have been identified. “We are into the list but we are not where we need to be,” she said. She also said the experts who have looked at the site and its problems have advised making repairs, not taking the site down completely.

Well, maybe not hopiumy enough.

But going back to the original issue, and a far deeper problem with Obamacare than the ongoing website debacle, is that the targeted core constituency of Obamacare, young people under 35, are nowhere near the fastest enrolling population group, with that distinction instead going to the oldest group, people 55 and over, which also happens the be the biggest use of funds within Obamacare. From the WSJ:


Insurers say the early buyers of health coverage on the nation's troubled new websites are older than expected so far, raising early concerns about the economics of the insurance marketplaces.


If the trend continues, an older, more expensive set of customers could drive up prices for everyone, the insurers say, by forcing them to spread their costs around. "We need a broad range of people to make this work, and we're not seeing that right now," said Heather Thiltgen of Medical Mutual of Ohio, the state's largest insurer by individual customers. "We're seeing the population skewing older."


...the numbers demonstrate a real-world fallout from the digital snafus: Less-healthy customers are more likely to persevere through technical obstacles to gain coverage, insurers say. Younger, healthier customers who feel less need for insurance—but whose widespread participation is important to the financial success of the system—could be quicker to give up.

Naturally, the central-planners had a response ready for this too:

A White House official said the Obama administration expects most young, healthy enrollees to wait until the last minute to sign up, citing research showing that pattern when Massachusetts embarked on a similar health overhaul in 2007. People have until Dec. 15 to enroll in coverage starting Jan. 1, with open enrollment for coverage during the year lasting through next March.

Because, you see, young people are so busy watching the Kardashians, working part-time jobs (if they are lucky), and hunting the rats in their parents' basement, they just can't afford to figure out how to complete a sign up form.

Finally, even assuming all these quirks are resolved, the worst case as most know by now, is that Obamacare is actually launched albeit with a several month delay. Because the hit to broader discretionary income will be so big, the Fed will have no choice but to engage in precisely the kind of NGDP targeting, read literal paradropping of cash, that we said would happen over a month ago now that the central bank's back is against the wall and nothing else has worked so far.


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Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:29 | 4128544 venturen
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Is it free?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:37 | 4128577 Jethro
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Nothing in this world is free except the sweet, full body caress from the TSA agents. Actually, I'm paying for that too.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:49 | 4128614 max2205
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Just like student loans


Testimony was purgury and just like gen Alexander there will justice

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:59 | 4128657 TruthInSunshine
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Democrats in semi non-retarded states are already starting to turn on Sheepish, in a preemptive effort to stave off midterms non-reelection.

Wait until the creeping destructive effects really kick into high gear.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:01 | 4128665 fonzannoon
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Thank god we have a true fiscal conservative like Christie waiting in the wings. Someone both sheeples can rally around.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:08 | 4128693 Keyser
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Youre kidding, right? Either that or you forgot the /sarc tag. 


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:15 | 4128715 Troll Magnet
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Every month, I'd rather buy plan!  No, I don't have any PMs. Fuck off.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:51 | 4128877 Careless Whisper
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Simple solution.  Cover medical marijuana. No copay. No deductible. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:56 | 4128901 Skateboarder
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*pictures line 10 miles long*

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:58 | 4128908 TeamDepends
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It's the new soup kitchen.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:19 | 4129234 krispkritter
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I'm ringin' in the Change

Just ringin' in the Change

What a glorious feelin'

I'm 'Covered' again

I'm laughing out loud

Their site is dark at .Gov

The IRS does their part

And I'm ready for 'The Glove'.


Let the storm troopers chase

My uninsured ass from this place

Come on with the chains

I've a glove in 'that' place

I won't try to feign

Happiness from the pain

Just ringin' 

Ringin' in the Change


Mincing from the pain


I'm destitute again


I'm cryin' and dyin' from the Change....

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 23:10 | 4129569 The_merovingian
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Did sheeples finally realize that the name of the law typically does the opposite of what it says ?

Affordable care act ->  provide unaffordable care

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 08:39 | 4130203 kralizec
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I guess that 1-800-FUCK YO(U) joke backfired.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:14 | 4129219 SunRise
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- 10 miles long,  "Well, ya see doc; I originally had a bad cough, so I stepped in line, but I've been in line so long, I'm now here for these bunions all over my toes".

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:33 | 4129073 Herd Redirectio...
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"We need a broad range of people to make this profitable,"

"We need a broad range of people to make this work,"


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:16 | 4128722 NoDebt
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He's kidding.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:28 | 4128772 Er Wang Dong
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The "sheeples" part tipped me off...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:12 | 4128972 macholatte
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Wait until the creeping destructive effects really kick into high gear.

Obamacare is a terminal disease that is spreading but not yet bloomed. It is now in its incubation period.

The Stages of Disease Development

1. Incubation Period - Time between the initial infection (passage of Affordable Care Act) and the first signs or symptoms (website crash)

2. Prodomal period - Mild symptoms; non-specific or specific (brain dead sheeple signing up for Obamacare)

3. Invasive Phase  Intense and major symptoms (Immigration Reform)

Reservoir -  Since pathogens cannot survive outside the host (American Sheeple) for very long, there has to be some place where they can maintain their infection (Progressive Caucus, Communist Party, MSNBC, NYT, Hollywood)

Direct Contact - When there is close association between the infected person and a possible host (political campaign)



Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:27 | 4129055 NIHILIST CIPHER

If Fonz isn't kidding, then MDB has some new company in delusionland.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:36 | 4129079 fonzannoon
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Can you imagine the 2016 election cycle? 100 mil people on food stamps and the dow at 22k. 

The mindfuck that they will have to create to make pretend that things are pretty good but if we just choose the right person we can get over the hump and get the country going in the right direction?

The next President won't come from either party. I'm not kidding about that.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:26 | 4129264 Sorynn
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Probably about the time that talks of succession really begin to heat up.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 23:25 | 4129620 All_Your_Base
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Thu, 11/07/2013 - 01:16 | 4129822 yofish
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Put your money where your mouth is - I'll wager a c-note that you are wrong. Maybe ZH can become worthwile as a gaming site.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 06:56 | 4130104 Frankie Carbone
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That's true. The next president will not come from either party. That's because he will be Anti-Christ. This script is playing out just like Daniel and Revelations.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:13 | 4128699 new game
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this could be the issue that galvanizes red vs blue and sure enuf- walla same old new.

fucked or be fucked; either way red-blue, blue-red, we all get it up the popper.

and they fell for it yet again. same shit differnt shade of brown...

ps. everyone healthy and under 30 says no fucking way am i payin for that crap insurance...

this flops and more treasries sold; like say 500 billion over next ten years.

on second thought 1 trillion over run. nothin new same shit-opps said all that-sorry.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:31 | 4129069 cynicalskeptic
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Why get a policy on your own when you can stay on your parent's coverage?   THAT aspect works well for a lot of people.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:20 | 4128741 Freddie
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What we are gonna get his Hillary versus Jeb after Jeb smears fat boy.

The scum RINO RNC let Ken Cucinelli twist in VA as the Obama/Clinton gang also stuffed endless ballots.    The Dems can rig any election due to 1981 Consent Decree and the RINO RNC are the fake opposition.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:06 | 4128957 Oldwood
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AS usual, a conservative is double gang fucked by both the democrats and republicans. The democrats bought a third party candidate and imported tons of money form out of state, and republicans were actively endorsing and funding the democrat against Cucinelli. Just fucking ugly and seemingly no one cares. Christie won, Hurray!!! We are so fucked.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:15 | 4129221 Wahooo
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No matter what, the UniParty wins.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:51 | 4129142 Deathrips
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The most expensive pay per view reality show in history....BEER TIME!



Thu, 11/07/2013 - 05:01 | 4130039 cynicalskeptic
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Get over the false dichotomy - no matter if it's Repub or Dem, both serve the same masters.  We have the illusion of choice, nothiong more.

We've officially become a Bananna Republic with el Presidente chosen from one of the leading oligarchic families...  we had Papa (Head of the CIA) Bush first followed by W and now Jeb while the Democrat 'centrist' (eg panderer to Big Busines) Clinton has the real power in the family running directly (after blowing her previous lead to 'Hope and Change' (a slogan only) Bush III .... uh... Obama


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:39 | 4128824 dobermangang
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Christie is fiscally conservative as he is fit.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:14 | 4129009 FredFlintstone
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Its all muscle.



Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:16 | 4129229 lotsoffun
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in joisey they call it 'table muscle'.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:03 | 4128936 Everybodys All ...
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Not really a great option when the guy is one biscuit away from meeting his maker.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:42 | 4129110 youngman
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We are going to have to buy a new Airforce One if Christie wins...not big enough.....maybe the Spruce Goose can be pulled out of mothballs and be brought to service...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:23 | 4129258 Homernomics
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C-17 ought to do the job.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:51 | 4129359 AGuy
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"We are going to have to buy a new Airforce One if Christie wins"

The odds favor Christie will drop dead before Nov 2016. Hes a walking heart-attack if I've ever seen one.


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:44 | 4129121 Forty Six and 2
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You mean a wafer thin mint away -

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:42 | 4129111 ebworthen
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fonzannoon said:  "Thank god we have a true fiscal conservative like Christie waiting in the wings."

Heh-heh, thanks for the sarcasm.  That fat fuck crony capitalist - if the 2016 GOP Candidate - will be the official death knell for them.

And they deserve it.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:57 | 4129115 ebworthen
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damn...first dupe in 2 years...Christie's a dope, and a no-go.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:02 | 4129181 fonzannoon
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someone will run independent in 2016 and win. It will be the millenials candidate.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 05:06 | 4130043 cynicalskeptic
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Only way an Independent can win is if they're independently wealthy - and the two major parties do NOT want competition.  Look at what happened to Perot.   You think they DIDN'T make threats against his family?

and do you really think some billionaire is really going to care about the masses?   Look at how the Koch Brothers are spending their money.....   

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:53 | 4129367 Lordflin
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Well, if girth is a determinent, there is plenty of real estate for a rally...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:35 | 4128798 Gen. Keith Alexander
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There is a promotion in the works!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:49 | 4128616 knukles
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So it's them 248 people jamming up the 2 baud .000005 mb/minute lines that's creating the long line for the goodies....

Hah ha ha ha ha

Try that one tonight on Jon Stewart, Kathleen

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:02 | 4128667 nmewn
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Yes, its obviously a volume problem...another lie exposed from their own lips.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:09 | 4128698 Keyser
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Next they will be saying an obscure utube video stole all the bandwidth from the ACA site .


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:11 | 4128705 knukles
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The tranny midget porn one being viewed on the continuous loop by the Enforcement Division at the SEC?
Oh yeah, that one!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:38 | 4128816 TeamDepends
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That's no tranny and that's no midget, it's Sebelius giving Americans an ACAoscopy.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:10 | 4128701 knukles
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BTW.  Betcha "I/we don't know the number is perjury."  Or is it ignorance?
And thus, the inevitable conclusions are .....

oh never mind...
it won't make a diffference

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:48 | 4128718 nmewn
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Here's a good one.

Three guesses which favored constituencies are gonna get some "regulatory adjustment" from king O'Barry & his bureaucratic minions and the first two don't count...ayep...unions.

Labor Unions May Get Health Law Tax Relief


But wait! There's moar!

Guess who gets to bail out "Big Insurance" when this thing goes tango uniform?...ayep:

"So imagine that we do enter a “death spiral” situation in which a large number of exchange health plans lose big and very few turn sizable profits. This could result from a delay of the individual mandate (reducing incentive to sign up); or from the current open enrollment period being extended (during which the uninsured can literally sign up for insurance on the way to the hospital); or from lack of interest among the healthy uninsured; or from faulty websites deterring all but the most desperate from enrolling.

In the event of a widespread failure, whatever its cause, taxpayers potentially face a multi-billion dollar bailout of health insurers for losses outside the corridor.

Insurers are therefore safe. Politicians who back Obamacare may not be. If insurers' costs do rise to the level that they require a taxpayer bailout, they will also be announcing massive hikes to their insurance premiums for calendar 2015. That combination may not go over so well in a midterm election year."

You see, you have to pass it first, to see whats in it ;-)

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:11 | 4128992 Oldwood
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So they are forcing us to swallow this crap sandwich and we have to to "pass it" to find out whats in it? Like kernels of corn?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:18 | 4129023 nmewn
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Its what tyrants do.

Next they'll expect us to thank them for not forcing us to eat the corn ;-)

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 01:21 | 4129827 yofish
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Stopped out when I read 'moar'. It's a reflexive defense mechanism that keeps me from swallowing too much shit.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:36 | 4128811 cccmachine
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Thank god this wasnt implemented under Bills watch. I only had a 14.4k modem back then

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 00:59 | 4129800 kadoka
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Maybe Obama can spring for the new 56K modem.  I know its a big investment but it should solve their problem.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 23:04 | 4129553 A Nanny Moose
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It would be funny, except that it's true.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:39 | 4128583 Rainman
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yes, go to any emergency room for treatment ...., open the bill when it arrives at your home and throw it in the trash.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:45 | 4128605 El Vaquero
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They'll then try to ruin your credit score, just like they were trying to do with this guy:


It doesn't matter if you didn't want the treatment.  Unwanted colonoscopy?  That's $6k.  Unless you're lucky enough to have an obamacare plan with a $4k deductible and a 40% co-pay.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:50 | 4128617 Stackers
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I'll be paying the 2.5% tax until I get sick. Even if I made $500k a year, and I dont, it would be cheaper than buying ridiculous plan I dont need with prescription drugs, maternity care, and other non-sense just to meet mandated "minimum policy standards"

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:40 | 4128827 SIOP
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Although this doesnt apply to me (I work for the State Government, good health ins paid for by you sad to say) I never seriously thought of someone simply paying the penalty tax until you just mentioned it.  And,  after reading what was posted here a few days ago about what Rush Limbaugh pointed out, it appears they cant tax you unless you get a refund and I havnt gotten one of those in years! lol.

Seems like one would need a catastophic ins policy of some kind? since bad accidents are not predictable.


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:31 | 4129070 Pure Evil
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That may be in effect the first year or so. Give it some time and they'll change the laws/regulations so that they can raid your bank accounts or place liens against your house. And you can bet they'll grandfather it in all the way back to 2014 with penalties and interest to boot.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:17 | 4129020 FredFlintstone
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You look like you may need a bypass operation soon and maybe some insulin and dialysis.



Thu, 11/07/2013 - 01:25 | 4129835 yofish
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It was worthwhile reading a bunch of shit to find something that was actually funny.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:57 | 4128905 Binko
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Let them go ahead and "ruin" your "credit score". Has there ever been any kind of voluntary servitude like that which Americans endure in the name of their holy "credit score"? 

The first step towards personal freedom is to simply refuse to be a willing participant in the great yoke of credit and debt. 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:09 | 4128982 Popo
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Excellent point.   The age-old threat of having a bad credit score, is as much a threat against the banks as it is against you.   Go ahead and give everyone a shitty credit score, and then what?   Then the entire system implodes because no one is credit worthy.  They desperately (desperately!) need a population of people with decent credit scores.   Right now they're already running thin on that farm of debt-slaves and they're freaked out about it.  

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:37 | 4129084 Herd Redirectio...
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Debt slavery is the new black.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 02:02 | 4129874 StychoKiller
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"Ralph's Spoilsport Motors" -- The walking man's friend (No Credit?  No Problem!)

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:48 | 4129127 ebworthen
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I am laying my life, my body, my soul at the doorstep of these fucking assholes in Washington and Wall Street.

They have NO IDEA what they are starting, absolutely NO FUCKING IDEA what they are getting themselves into, COMPLETELY CLUELESS!!!

Go ahead, buy 1 Trillion rounds of ammo, it won't protect you fucks from the wrath of the common person.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:50 | 4128623 Caveman93
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I say FUCK FICO! I hope my score is zero someday. I don't need fucking debt nohow anyway ;)

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:10 | 4128648 john39
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yes, its one thing to talk about how evil the system is...  but much more is required.  a sufficient number of people have to lose their fear of things like bad credit, lack of insurance or generally not fitting into the system...  screw their systems, do everything you can to exist outside the system, despite the inconvenience or 'risk' it creates in your life...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:13 | 4128711 centerline
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My brother must be true visionary.  He has been with that program for decades.  lol.

Seroiusly though - this is gonna happen anyhow.  No other choice.  Rates are bound to rise at some point to avoid municipal/pension failures (at the brink) and the next wave of middle class defaults will be upon us.  Rock and hard place my friend.  Waves of pain.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:29 | 4128776 johnQpublic
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amber waves of pain?



Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:50 | 4129133 ebworthen
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Purple mountains mangle'eed

Above the fructosed planes.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 23:18 | 4129597 Bernankenstein
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Scamerica, Scamerica, God has forsaken thee.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:30 | 4129287 Trucker Glock
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Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:38 | 4129317 Colonel Klink
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Call the Amberlamps!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:16 | 4128723 new game
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but john, risk is what makes life fun! with the bonus of not payin...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:53 | 4128624 kaiserhoff
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The young who are enrolling are the ones with diabetes, malaria, syphilis, leprosy, etc,

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:57 | 4128651 akak
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Happiness is a diabetic malarial syphilitic leper being held in the warm embrace of Obama(don't)(Care).

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:03 | 4128672 nmewn
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Soros signed up for ObamaCare?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:18 | 4128727 new game
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soros has major blocks of stock. he is covered.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:03 | 4128940 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Not a fucking person who voted for Obamacare or those who gave them donations has to sign up for Obamacare. How many waivers has President Pinnochio given to those who did not make a campaign donation?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:16 | 4129012 kaiserhoff
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And how can that constitute equal protection under the law?

This is a whole new layer of corruption the country has never seen before.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:47 | 4129344 Things that go bump
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Which means the end is nigh. "The last act of any government is to loot the treasury." attributed to George Washington.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:48 | 4128857 johngaltfla
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Yes. Logging into the website is free.


However the insurance costs more than 3 months worth of beer, liquor, and Doritos Tacos at Taco Bell so the young people are telling the .gov to eat their anal probe and gambling the IRS won't care.


Of course, the IRS will care. Trust me. As a business owner they have a vast collection of anal probes.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:00 | 4128924 Long-John-Silver
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Is it free?


If you like your free stuff, you can keep your free stuff.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:20 | 4129035 notquantumdum
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There is nothing free in life but suffering; we all seem to get plenty of that.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 06:46 | 4130094 Incubus
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suffering is resultant from developing an attachment to things.


I don't "want" what I don't need. 


I'm quite content in not keeping up with the Joneses.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 19:57 | 4133058 notquantumdum
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'Just like the Buddhists say.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:31 | 4128551 Gringo Viejo
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Good for them. They're the ones getting humped.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:04 | 4128678 Edmon Plume
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The young enthusiastically voted for the humper.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:27 | 4128756 Freddie
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Yup - the young voted for Hope & Change.  Those youngins better get back to work to pay my Medicare and Soc Security so it is all solvent for me.  The seniors and baby boomers need to go to the death panels so - I GET MINE.  You better work overtime young slackers because I want one of them scooters with a flag and a bell that plays God Bless America plus red, white and blue blinking lights. 

Keep watching TV and Hollywood - retards because the media all support O 110% and your viewership enabled all of  this *****ng fantasy.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:00 | 4128921 Bastiat
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Do the death panels take recommendations?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:20 | 4129033 Oldwood
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Maybe we can have a reality TV show like American Idol where really sick people can come on and make their plea for healthcare and the American people can vote them dead or alive. It will be just like the Roman Collosseum with lions and shit! Obama or his duly appointed representative can sit crowned on a throne indicating his assessment of the audience judgement with a thumbs up or down. Best of times, it is!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 23:54 | 4129685 All_Your_Base
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you may be on to something

broadcast from a google barge

off the coast of fukushima 

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:32 | 4129296 Lost Word
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What happens when You get to be a senior eligible for the death panels ?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:15 | 4128717 El Oregonian
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Oops. Obamasnare has a great big hole in it and all the little fishez are gett'in out.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:32 | 4128556 NotApplicable
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Gee, whodathunk a wealth transfer system would have more willing recipients than donors?


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:44 | 4128596 Ms. Erable
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So, as a percentage of KY's 2010 oh-fish-uhl 2010 census of 3,725,789 persons, that's 0.1243% of the KY population. Winning indeed.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:56 | 4129164 stant
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90% went on medicade

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:42 | 4128562 mofreedom
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Just Say No to Communism yous utes.

Oh wait, yous utes like communism as long as someone else is paying for it.

Forget it.

See utes all in hell.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:34 | 4128564 ShortTheUS
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Affordable Care Act's biggest downfall? It's not affordable. Law of Demand is a bitch...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:51 | 4128622 HardlyZero
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...and they don't care...but they are acting like its affordable and they care...promises.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:04 | 4129171 notquantumdum
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And, its purported purpose was to decrease the number of people without health insurance, but . . . so far . . . hey now . . . imagine that!  It looks just like every other attempt at state planning, subsidizing, or otherwise effecting prices in a supposedly-free-market; and it ends up achieving the exact opposite of what is claimed by its supporters [in the long-term if not the short-term].

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:52 | 4128568 syntaxterror
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Prescription Copay - $30
Office Visit Copay - $60
Monthly Premium - $276
Deductable - $5000

Opting out... Priceless

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:08 | 4128691 akak
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Obama(don't)Care: don't leave the Homeland without it!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:12 | 4128703 in4mayshun
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In CA that plan would be more like $900/Mo...for a 30 year old

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:35 | 4128570 Ms. Erable
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I almost signed up, but then I found out I don't get any of the extras that were supposed to come with a plan - SNAP card, Obamafone, and a Big Mac. And they wanted me to pay for it, too!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:38 | 4128580 Caveman93
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Umm hmmm. That's redaculous! I mean, the nerve!

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:39 | 4128581 Jethro
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Or, in modern parlance, "Awwwww HELLLLL NO!"

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:01 | 4128926 mofreedom
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You monkey, see all.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:41 | 4129104 ncdirtdigger
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Oh no he ditn't.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:48 | 4128611 drchris
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Here is an interview with one of the first six enrollees:

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:02 | 4128669 Caveman93
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How sad.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:40 | 4128832 Freddie
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He keeps repeating: I hate this place. Nothing works here.  The medications don't work.  I have been here for 7 years. 

He could be referring to:

1. Life in the USA under Obama.  Cause I also hate this place and nothing works here.

2. New York.  He is in NY so that work work. I would hate it there. Nothing works and the medications would not make NY any better.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:18 | 4128729 forwardho
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You mean... it wernt free?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:23 | 4129040 Oldwood
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Isn't there some sort of entitlement rights "package deal", where you get to choose any three of the five most popular free shit programs?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:06 | 4129189 lotsoffun
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you forgot about the new section 8 that will allow you to rent a single family home (rent paid by the last of the taxpayers) from the venture capital corps. that snapped up homes at firesales across the country.

think about that - and you can tell all the other n*ggrs you bought the place. we movin up!


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:37 | 4128578 Caveman93
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Mom...Dad? Can you guys buy me some free healthcare for Christmas? See JCPenny's Christmas Catalog insert for details.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:40 | 4128586 Zymurguy
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These youngin's are smarter than the shithead in the Whitehouse.  They're like "fuck that bra'... I ain't signin' up and payin' no body until I has to!  Now let's play some BEER PONG!!!"

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 06:49 | 4130098 Incubus
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My insurance costs  100 dollars a month through my employer.


Why would I opt for obamacare and pay 3x that?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:40 | 4128587 drchris
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I really hope she means that they will give out both the Medicaid and Obamacare numbers. Don't try to pad the Obamacare numbers by lumping it in with Medicaid.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:13 | 4128713 in4mayshun
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Dream on! I smell a hefty "beat" coming on the healthcare numbers

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:24 | 4128748 ImReady
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It will bet my paycheck it will be the combined number. "Sorry, we don't have the breakdown. We can get you specifics by July 2016 CONgressman."

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:12 | 4128984 Anonymouse
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That's exactly what they will do.  Either there will be a technical (or staff) issue that caused the figures to be combined (and look quite good), or else she will use some technical definition that makes the two inseparable, or at least confusing enough to allow them to claim Medicaid enrollees as benefitting from Obamacare.

"I can get that figure for you Senator, but it will take some additional staff analysis, and those personnel are on leave until after Thanksgiving" (Sorry, I didn't see the post below until after writing this)

And she will get away with it.  A few tea party whacko-birds will complain, but the good GOP leadership will apologize for their boorish behavior and allow her to reschedule.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:42 | 4128589 Bennie Noakes
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Lack of young and healthy victims will cause prices to rise, which will cause more young and healthy to exit, and so on.

In the end, you will only be left with the poor whose plans are paid for by the government, and the extremely unhealthy. Government costs will skyrocket.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:16 | 4128724 forwardho
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That has been the idea.

It's just the step we have to take to get to single payer.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:44 | 4128597 Dr. Engali
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I find it hilarious that she thinks we are stoopid enough to believe her when she says that they have no idea how many people have enrolled. They know exactly how many people have enrolled.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:07 | 4128687 ArkansasAngie
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You are assuming they can count!

Maybe they don't actually know

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:20 | 4128739 Rainman
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yes, Democrat or dead ...ever knew how to count, the truth

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:48 | 4128862 Freddie
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The dead ones know how to vote.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:51 | 4128873 dobermangang
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I wonder how many Democrats, that voted for Obamacare, actually read the bill after 3.5 years?  Probably not many.  I think they are very scared now.  Millions of voters losing insurance.  Millions of voters getting higher premiums and higher deductibles.  Millions of voters losing access to their doctor.  There's a lot of mad voters out there.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:25 | 4129048 Clever Name
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I'll guarantee that 90+% of them vote Dem in the next election.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:47 | 4128602 Caveman93
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Silly question but when I was young wayyy back when, I didn't have a pot to piss in or window to throw it out of. Why would kids today have more than what I had when I was young to blow cash on a very expensive car payment a month like the ACA? Is our government on crack I take it? Maybe...bathsalts perhaps?

That stoopid fucking website can run like a srtiped ass ape for all I care...not enough income to pay for this bullshit every month.


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:35 | 4128801 johnQpublic
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for the mother fucking win

best and most accurate examination of the fiasco

+70 million

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:38 | 4129093 RichardP
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Why would kids today have more than what I had when I was young ...?

Remember that the yutes can stay on their parents insurance until they are 26.  Are 26-year-olds considered "kids"?  Plus, anyone 26 years of age or older that is married will likely have their wife pushing them for the "safety" of health insurance with pregnancy and pap smear and breast cancer coverage.  May turn into another reason for guys to not get married.

The "young and healthy" folks being talked about are actually 26 years old or older.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:50 | 4128603 akak
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I decided long ago to "Just say NO" to Obama(don't)care.  I will NOT comply!
This is my line in the sand against out of control facism in the USA.

Upvote me if (and only if) you have decided to do the same.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 18:54 | 4128636 fonzannoon
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If I upvote you but the reason I have not opted for Obamacare is because I am "happy" with my $1,500/mo coverage does that make me a total asshole or just mostly an asshole?

Either way good for you.

Things are getting weird Akak. I was at my favorite Panera Bread today and I went to pay for my lunch with a brand new crispy $100 bill and they said they would only take $20 or less.

What is the point of these new bills if no one will accept them?

Anyway even other than that...People have caught on to the fact that "everyone's shit's emotional right now". Something has to come along and I don't think it's good.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:08 | 4128695 centerline
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My insurance is even more than that a month Fonz.  Closer to $2k I think.  Just nuts.  I expect it to just keep going up too.  Add on my homeowner's insurance, auto insurance, property taxes and sky high power bills... well, let's just say that my paycheck isn't what it used to be.  Middle class is toast at this rate.

Getting closer every day to something breaking.  Sad to hear the news talk about rising mental health issues, crime, etc. and no one dares connect the dots to the rat race accelerating into "ludicris speed" (nod to spaceballs), let alone dig into why.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:28 | 4128774 new game
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hey, my raisin bran went from 16 oz to 12 - same price. so i said fuck this and bought organic oatmeal for 1.69/lb.

not many options with health care,  except the obvious. opt the fuk out, eat, live healthy and have a stash for that mergency.

boldly diplayed to authority-middle finger silently displayed via my actions. up vote akak...

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:54 | 4128891 respect the cock
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Ho hum.  Thank god I'm in a municipal union, lovin' my gold-plated cadillac plan. Part of my pension too!

Whoops! Running late for my massage.  Insurance covered!

(Oh, andyou're welcome for the 40 hour work week.)

Later bitchez!


Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:11 | 4128707 Bennie Noakes
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I'm not sure, but I seem to recall that restaurants are required to accept legal tender bills in payment for meals that have already been eaten because this is deemed as repayment of a debt. I wonder what the penalty is for refusing to honor the legal tender law?

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:32 | 4128789 Bay of Pigs
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BoP is a firm NO on the ACA. They will pry the fine (and gold) from my cold dead hands.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:19 | 4128736 Dr. Engali
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The fact that it looks like third world funny money might have something to do with it.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:51 | 4128876 lakecity55
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It's all of it 3rd world funny munny.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:52 | 4128887 Freddie
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I had a meeting with a guy that I do not know well. Smart guy.  He starts going off on Obama and the total insanity of America now.   I never talk about it to people who I do not know. I told him he was preaching to the choir.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:25 | 4129046 ElvisDog
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I'm telling you, if things just keep going on the same trajectory that they are now -  no new crisis, just the same steady rate of deterioration and incompetence - the Democrats are going to get crushed in Nov. 2014. Obama will have approval ratings in the 20-30% range and people will equate Democratic candidates to Obama.

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 20:29 | 4129057 Clever Name
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Not gonna happen. I think the Reps are cooked for the foreseeable future.I'd bet that in the next 10 elections there may be one or two Reps at most.

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