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Iran Nuclear Programme Deal Fails Due To French Block: New Saudi-French Alliance Emerging?

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While most pragmatists knew well in advance that optimism over an Iran nuclear programme deal emerging out of Geneva was very much displaced, few anticipated what the actual reason for the failure would be. Indeed, most had expected that the staunchest opponent to the deal, Israel PM Netanyahu who moments ago appeared on Face the Nation and made his case (saying Iran would have given up "almost nothing") would have used his influence over the US as a key member of the 5+1 group of nations (US, Russia, China, France, Britain and Iran) to block any Iranian detente with the US, even though none other than John Kerry has been urging for the Iranian deal for weeks. So when news hit that it was France who had scuttled a deal with a last minute block, many were surprised.

FT reports:

“There was a possibility to reach an agreement with the majority of 5+1 but there was a need to have the consent of all and as you have heard . . . one of the delegations had some problems,” Mohammad Javad Zarif said in a Facebook post referring to the six nations involved in the talks – the US, Russia, China, France, Britain and Iran. Three days of intense negotiations in Geneva, which went into early Sunday morning, failed to produce an interim agreement over Iran’s nuclear programme despite earlier optimistic predictions.

 

France appeared to be concerned that the proposal, which involved Tehran halting key parts of its nuclear programme in return for modest relief from tough international sanctions, did not apply the brakes hard enough on the country’s agenda.

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Iran’s negotiating team was blessed last week with the strong support of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader and ultimate decision maker, who urged hardliners not to weaken the diplomatic team during nuclear talks and said they were “children of the revolution”.

 

But the top leader’s official Twitter account on Sunday reposted his comments from a speech earlier this year in which he had condemned France’s alleged enmity toward Iran. “The officials of French government in recent years have shown explicit hostility toward the Iranian nation. This is a thoughtless and imprudent move,” the tweet said.

This means that once again the traditional narrative of Iran as an intransigent, obstinate negotiator falls apart, even if there had been an ulterior motive: the removal of Western sanctions against the improverished nation. So it will be up to the west to come up with yet another provocation that makes Iran seem like an irrational actor on the international arena.

However, a bigger questions arises: why did France break away from the US-led negotiating axis, just to side not only with Israel but with Saudi Arabia.

Many ordinary Iranians, including the reform-minded public and those educated in the west, expressed outrage at France and accused it of trying to appease Israel and Saudi Arabia, which have been against any nuclear deal that would give Iran the right to enrich uranium.

 

“French cars occupy Tehran’s streets but instead France stabs Iran in the back,” said Mina, a 32-year-old businesswoman.

 

France’s alliance with Saudi Arabia against Iran is nothing new and we had seen it during the Iran-Iraq war [1980-88] when the Saudis paid France to give fighter bombers and missiles to Saddam [Hussein] to kill us,” said Narges, a university student of politics.

 

“We should boycott French fries and baguettes in a symbolic move,” said Mahdi, an electric engineer.

 

Even Iran’s hardliners who are in principle against any deal attacked France. Fars news agency, close to the elite Revolutionary Guards, ran a headline: “Tough negotiations in Geneva and a French gun-wielding frog.”

Which should at least partially answer the nagging question about who it is that Saudi Arabia has picked to fill the diplomatic void in the aftermath of the deterioration in relations between the oil-rich nation and the US.

Then again, a Saudi Arabia alligned with a France, which by implication is now operating against US interests should result in some truly comic events in the international diplomacy arena very soon. We can't wait to find out just how Hollande's socialist government proceeds to entertain the world with its foreign policy foibles.

Finally, for those who missed it, here is Netanyahu earlier today saying "no deal is better than a bad deal."

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Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:27 | 4140448 screw face
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Nuclear is forever

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:54 | 4140507 Headbanger
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Yeah... One nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day..

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:13 | 4140561 max2205
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Let there be peace though out the land

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:22 | 4140581 Gringo Viejo
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US foreign policy today is a total clusterfuck.
These people are fucking children.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:31 | 4140604 NoDebt
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"I think we should boycott french fries..."

Tried that.  Didn't work.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:36 | 4140612 Stackers
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Boycott all french fries !!!!

I now only eat pommes frites !

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 14:40 | 4140807 quintago
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Blame this guy.... bernard-henry levy. Look him up.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 15:05 | 4140859 lineskis
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Keep in mind that the pipeline the Saudis want to go through Syria is also a Qatari pipeline. And the Qatari have made massive investement in France, up to the point that the Qatari citizen residing in France are allowed to not pay the wealth tax that applies to any other resident, be they French or foreign citizen residing in France.

Remember that the Fench were strong supporters of a military operation in Syria.

So a Saudi/Qatari/French alliance just gets confirmed every passing day...

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 15:26 | 4140910 hansg
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Keep in mind that it was France that _wanted_ the islamisation of Europe, through a strong European-Arabian axis, as a counterweight to US superiority. France is in bed with Saudi-Arabia, and always has been.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 15:46 | 4140942 lineskis
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Yep.

France was also in Bed with Sadam in Irak, as Total and Elf (French Oil companies), were getting sweet (crude) deals (pardon the pun). And while war was bad in Irak (cf. De Villepin speech in the UN, asking to not have any military intervention there), it's oh so necessary in Syria.

So war was bad for civilian in Irak but necessary for civilian in Syria. Brilliant...

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 19:15 | 4141369 Analyse2
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- You probably have forgotten that the French participated in 1991 to the 1st coalition against Saddam, when he invaded Koweit. The second largest European contingent was from France, which committed 18,000 troops.  

- For the 2nd war in 2003, the Bush regime lied and fabricated "evidence" that was used to deceive Congress, the American people, and the United Nations. At the time that these absurd claims were being made, only experts knew that they were false. Today everyone knows that the claims were lies, and that the French were right NOT to participate to the “coalition” despite the hate they incurred in the US (the whole dumbass "french fries" , the “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” things, etc ...)

 

 

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 21:24 | 4141699 janus
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not that i disagree with anything you're saying, but janus thinks he stumbled onto something...

to wit: "...the french were right not to participate to the 'coalition' despite..."

it's that "to the coalition" part that snagged my attention.  this cannot be a typo (as the rest of your spelling is perfect -- or at least seems so).  moreover, your syntax is othewise immaculate (though subtly francophonic); to me, this sounds like the native speaker of a romantic tongue (i'm thinking french for some strange reason) structuring his thoughts in said native tongue, and then translating them into 'american' english..."a la" -- eh?..no?  methinks oui.

in america, we say "with the coalition" or you could've phrased it thusly: "contribute to the coaltion" and no one would've batted an eye (least of all janus)

but i'm paranoid these days...never know who's saying what and for whatever reason it's said...these days  

aye de mi...estos dias!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1N8GtDkYfQ

i stopped my rambling/

i don't do too much gambling these days/

these days i seem to think about/

how all the changes came about my ways/

and i wondered if i'd see another highway,

{which reminds me...just got my copy of RS -- Happy Trails, Lou; God bless you.  oh, btw, when you get to The Gate, keep a keen eye out; satan is known to dress in Peter's regalia these days...strange days indeed! most peculiar, momma!  great issue (as usual), jans w.; now, get on board before the wave washes over top of ya...surf's up, baby!}

i had a lover/

i don't think i'll risk another these days/

these days/

...ah-la-la-la-la/

i stopped my dreaming/

i don't do too much scheming these days/

...,

janus

 

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 16:31 | 4143494 Analyse2
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@Janus

Nice post, sweet song, smart deductions Dr. Holmes ...

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 01:20 | 4142130 TBT or not TBT
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The second war had a goal of regime change. Not good for France, which had run up over 100 billion on receivables with saddams regime, and had all sorts of future business locked up.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 18:34 | 4141281 CPL
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How the hell did they get an agreement from a king that's breathing through a tube and hooked up to a dialysis machine?

King Abdullah been clinically dead for five months.  The house of Saud FELL, past tense.  It's done as dinner and a wildcard about to happen.  His son's are going to play the fun game of royal fratricide.  Can take that to the bank.  When it happens (<cough> happened twice already on rumour, the king was busy as Solomon).  Then watch the oil price.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 21:34 | 4141724 janus
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king?  bah!

two deaths were STRONGLY rumored (the rumors came from 'the kingdom') -- bandar & king abdullah.  now, we know that bandar is alive...we also know that bandar is intel chief...we furthermore know that bandar is, well, what the hell (doesn't do any good to say)...ipso facto, the 'king' and custodian of the two holy shrines is none other than (drumroll):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoklqunA16s

all hail...something.  awww,well, what the hail.

corruption?...so what,

janus

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 14:49 | 4140829 GMadScientist
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And you only eat long ones...with "Mayonnaise"!

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:51 | 4140634 agent default
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Nah, just let them deal with the Germans all by themselves next time around. 

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:22 | 4140582 AlaricBalth
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I think France just surrendered to Saudi Arabia.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 16:11 | 4140989 Peter Pan
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Are there two countries called France?
Or is it just my imagination that France was having a problem with its Muslim population and the way they dress?
Then again, if anyone thinks that France is being too difficult, just have some sympathy for the French people who have to put up with a stupid moron like Hollande.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:02 | 4140531 robertsgt40
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It was France's turn to cary water for Israel

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:04 | 4140538 icanhasbailout
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French are whores and Saudi is a rich john.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 14:37 | 4140647 Andrew Jackson ...
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Fabius is Super Sayan, the flying zionist

 

A must see about a french dissident :

Alain Soral denounces zionist Manuel Valls (French Minister of Interior) (EN sub)

http://youtu.be/vETmU3xW2Ro

 

http://frenchdissidents.wordpress.com/

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 16:12 | 4140991 Bokkenrijder
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Well, if Obama continues this way, then TPTB will finally get their big war in the Middle East, becauset there's nothing like a big war to wipe the out of control spiraling debt slate clean...and then start all over again!

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:28 | 4140453 DeadFred
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I wonder what the NSA has on the French Prez. I bet it's good stuuf.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:38 | 4140473 TBT or not TBT
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Hollande is openly an immense fuckhead and the French are well aware of this.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 15:50 | 4140951 lineskis
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Indeed, but no one is putting it better than Mr. Farage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLLKaLrKtMs&t=30s

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:13 | 4140560 JustObserving
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"It wasn't the US government breaking into the private communications of former French President Nicolas Sarkozy, according to top secret documents unearthed by Edward Snowden and published in Le Monde – it was the Israelis. A four-page internal précis regarding a visit to Washington by two top French intelligence officials denies the NSA or any US intelligence agency was behind the May 2012 attempted break-in – which sought to implant a monitoring device inside the Elysee Palace's communications system – but instead fingers the Israelis, albeit indirectly. A few days back, Le Monde reported that the NSA Intercepted French Telephone Calls 'On a Massive Scale' ."

http://slashdot.org/story/13/10/28/1157201/israel-helped-the-nsa-spy-on-former-french-president-according-to-documents

Israeli spying on France means that Hollande is liable to be blackmailed by Israel and it is very opposed to the current deal with Iran.


Sun, 11/10/2013 - 20:15 | 4141530 Kirk2NCC1701
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It doesn't say much for French security apparatus or their tech, now does it, if the Israelis can play them like fools.

The French (men) need to be kicked in the nuts more often, purely to recalibrate their humility to their ability.

"La Grande Nation" my eye. More like a nation of coiffeured poodles.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:33 | 4140460 LetThemEatRand
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This whole episode has exposed how foreign interests -- most of whom are connected closely to banking interests and of course the MIC -- dictate U.S. foreign policy.  Ron Paul has it right.  Let these guys work it out themselves.  Not our fight, not our problem.   Iran is not going to nuke the U.S., and it is not even going to nuke Israel.  Nuclear weapons are a deterrent to invasion, not an offensive weapon (unless you desire your country to be reduced to radioactive rubble).  Iran's threat is its desire to use non-dollar currency for oil, which threatens the banking cartel including the Fed.  But try telling that to your average American who forgets the one country on earth that every actually used nuclear weapons offensively back before anyone else had them.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:55 | 4140504 Winston Churchill
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The Iraniians have had nukes since the early 1990's.

They aquired them on the black market during the Soviet collapse.

Every western intelligence agency knows it.

The pretence of stopping them develop them is hiding the

real sticking point in these negotiations.I can hardly see the Mullahs

agreeing to a Jewish controlled central bank.

This is all just kabuki theatre for the masses.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:56 | 4140512 Headbanger
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Until they pop one that is!

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:08 | 4140539 Mike in GA
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@WChurchill

Surely you'll share your sources with us rather than the  sophomoric "every western intelligence agency knows it".

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:36 | 4140611 Winston Churchill
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Its so common knoledge that one ex spook even blurted it out on faux news

a month ago.Looked embarrassed as hell ,tried to walk it back, and couldn't.

I've been reading about it for years.Trouble is the sites get censored,like the

Pakistani one showing the sworn statements attesting to Osama's death in 2001,

made  by the attending medical staff.Poof, and its gone.

Still a lot of chatter around though discussing how many. nukes ,not if they got them.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 14:22 | 4140769 Anusocracy
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That's your news source?

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 16:08 | 4140982 Winston Churchill
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Read my reply.I did not say that.

Unless you read Farsi or Russian my sources would not help you very  much.

I took screenshots of a lot of them before it was disappeared, but I cannot post those direct.

Wish I could.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 14:33 | 4140794 scraping_by
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Er, no.

Fox is intermingled with a Saudi prince's company, and tailors its news to his agenda.

http://shoebat.com/2013/04/25/a-contrast-a-saudi-princes-influence-on-fo...

Intellegence analyists you see on cable tend to be lobbyists. Or work for right wing think tanks. But I repeat myself.

And no one 'blurts out' anything on Fox. The last time they didn't control the guest, he broke them down as liars.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 22:56 | 4141904 Freddie
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All of TV and Hollywood is total shit.  If you watch TV then you are an idiot who supports the "system" with your viewership.

And yes there is Saudi money and influence in Fox but there is in every other network except CBS/Viacom.  The Saudis still have influence over them and Sumner Redstone because they decide who goes on the Middle Eastern satellites.  VH1 alone is on most islamic countries.  So all of TV is crap and morons watch it.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:26 | 4140593 Ignatius
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Netanyahoo would spew on himself if this 'thesis' were true.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 15:44 | 4140937 Running On Bing...
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Anti-semitism is starting to get out of control in the ME and Europe. We cannot let this happen in the Americas.

Repeat: Hitler was evil, I am, we are all Schindler's! Protect our bankers and israeli congress. (and aipac)

Over.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 20:21 | 4141550 Kirk2NCC1701
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Sounds plausible and wish it were true, but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny...

If they already had nukes, all Iran has to do is say so, and let one loose underground. That would totally derail the Israeli/Saudi agenda.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:07 | 4140544 y3maxx
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Isn't all this Mid East mumbo jumbo front page news about taking the heat off Obamacare, Two Leaking Gulf Oil Wells, Leaking Nuclear Power Plants (San Onofre & Hanford), growing Unemployment/Food Stamps,& the College Loan Bubble?

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 13:33 | 4140602 macholatte
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Maybe it's more like a Merry-Go-round with Barry sitting on the horse. As the machine turns Barry gets to grab the brass ring, which, for him, is a magazine loaded with scandals and fuck-ups. Today the Middle East, tomorrow something new. Bengazi, Fast & Furious, birth cert, etc., are all more like spent shell casings littering the floor. The Progressives still own the media and Barry is still POTUS and that's not going to change any time soon.

Think:Immigration Reform - The next great fleecing of America.

 

 

No worries! Obama golfs 150th round as superstorm devastates Philippines, Iran deal enrages

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/8/miller-obama-plays-150-ro...

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 16:37 | 4141045 mjcOH1
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"Maybe it's more like a Merry-Go-round with Barry sitting on the horse.   As the machine turns Barry gets to grab the brass ring,.."

More like a Symbian than a horse...

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 00:36 | 4142093 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Do you honestly believe that if either the Germans, Russians or the Japanese buil the A bomb first that they would not have used it?

The USA developed it first so they used it first and that is the only reason.

Hitler, Stalin or the Emperor would have done exactly the same with many more nations than just one.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:31 | 4140464 fonzannoon
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France just got downgraded. they will leave the euro and link up with Saudi Arabia and the fromage dollar will be born. As long as the goddamn Saudis keep taking a cheese backed currency for oil, gold will continue to be monkeyhammered.

This was all predicted in that scene from Crossiant 1981

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:32 | 4140468 Seize Mars
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M'kay. And the illusion that "diplomacy has failed" will go on.

So how long is it, that the Iranians have been "weeks away" from buiding an atomic bomb? Thirty years? Fourty?

Guys, at this point, the strings on the puppets are visible and the whole thing is getting...boring.

To the PTB: Really? This is all you've got? You are getting boring.

Here is a great movie quote: Quo Vadis, where Petronius, Nero's advisor, kills himself:

"... I can forgive you for ... befouling our fair country with the stench of your crimes. But one thing I cannot forgive - the boredom of having to listen to your verses, your second-rate songs, your mediocre performances. Adhere to your special gifts, Nero - murder and arson, betrayal and terror. Mutilate your subjects if you must; but with my last breath I beg you - do not mutilate the arts. Fare well, but compose no more music. Brutalize the people, but do not bore them, as you have bored to death your friend, the late Gaius Petronius..."

PTB: you are getting boring.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:36 | 4140479 john39
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not hard to see netanyahu's fist all the way up hollande's arse on this one, is it....

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 12:49 | 4140494 IdeasRbulletproof
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It's not even that. Mars has it right. Everyone can see the stage has been set. NATO, US, Saudi, Israel vs Russia, China, Syria, Iran etc. The rest of this bs is just stage play. At this point the MIC is probably open for almost anything to start some false flag and frankly as Mars says, it's getting Boring. But the simple fact that the curtain is clearly open for everyone to see pretty much shows that the west has already lost. Game, set, match...

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 14:11 | 4140725 el Gallinazo
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Hollande?  I thought it was Kermit.

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