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Meanwhile In The Philippines, There Is "Nothing Left To Loot"
"We need help!" is the sad handwritten sign hanging outside a shuttered church in the Philippine town of Tacloban surrounded, as Reuters reports, by uncollected corpses and canyons of debris. Demand for relief is huge and despite 66 tons of supplies having landed since Saturday, they are not reaching those who need them the most as "people are roaming around the city, looking for food and water," because aid trucks from the airport struggle to enter the city because of the stream of people and vehicles leaving it. "People are angry. They are going out of their minds," warned one aid-worker as relief was delayed due to security concerns "there might be a stampede," after dark. The terrible state of affairs is summed up by on aid worker, "there is nothing left to loot... even if you have money there is no food to buy. There is nothing here." Police are trying to enforce a curfew...
Some context... (via @colinjones)
The Human Side...
Tacloban city administrator Tecson Juan Lim says the death toll in this city alone "could go up to 10,000."
At least a dozen U.S. and Philippines military cargo planes arrived on Monday, with the Philippine air force saying it had flown in about 60,000 kg (66 tons) of relief supplies since Saturday. But the demand is huge and the supplies aren't reaching those who need it most.
"People are roaming around the city, looking for food and water,"
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Pedrosa, the government aid worker, said security concerns prevented supplies from being handed out after dark.
"There might be a stampede," he said.
The aid truck was guarded by soldiers toting assault rifles. "It's risky," said Jewel Ray Marcia, a Philippine army lieutenant who led the unit.
"People are angry. They are going out of their minds."
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Earlier on Monday, said Pedrosa, soldiers fired warning shots into the air to stop people stealing fuel from a petrol station.
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People were still emptying one warehouse of rice and loading it onto carts and motorcycles. No police or soldiers stopped them.
A handwritten sign pinned to a makeshift police checkpoint near a looted department store warned of an 8 p.m. to 5 a.m. curfew.
But there is another reason the looting had abated.
"There is nothing left to loot," said Pedrosa.
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Officials attribute the high death toll to the many people who stayed behind to protect their property and were swept away in a storm surge of water and lacerating debris.
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"My house just dissolved in the water," she said.
Saraza now struggles to feed her children.
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"My house is destroyed," he said. "Even if you have money there is no food to buy. There is nothing here."
The Costs...
Philippine President Benigno Aquino declared a state of calamity to speed aid to communities ravaged by super Typhoon Haiyan
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The government has 18.7 billion pesos ($429 million) to fund reconstruction
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“The 18.7 billion pesos the president mentioned is probably just an initial amount because it’s not going to be enough,” said Jonathan Ravelas, chief market strategist at BDO Unibank Inc., the nation’s largest lender. “Given still low interest rates and huge amounts of liquidity in the domestic market, the government may consider selling bonds to fund the rebuilding.”
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The state of calamity will “accelerate the efforts of the government to render aid and to rehabilitate the provinces ravaged by Yolanda,”
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Haiyan’s total economic impact may reach $14 billion, about $2 billion of which will be insured, according to a report by Jonathan Adams, a senior analyst at Bloomberg Industries, citing Kinetic Analysis Corp.
Gross domestic product in areas hit by the typhoon may decline as much as 8 percent next year, Finance Secretary Cesar Purisima said in a mobile-phone message, citing preliminary estimates. The regions affected account for about 12.5 percent of the nation’s output, he said.
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The truth hurts, doesn't it. If the Philippines was jewish, then the zionist controlled U.S. government would have rushed aid to them immediately, so long as the indigenous jews were obedient. Aiding Sephardic jews is not a priority for zionists.
Your opinion is not the truth.
That's not my opinion either. It's pretty much how the universe operates, at least so long as there is no actual magic.
It's fact, verified by a pattern of events. Open your mind. Opinion is free. Facts are sacrosanct.
And then quite suddenly -- I win.
WTF? Why does it always have that?
Because Obama.
Or something. It's all stupid.
don't you two have another anti-Nazi film to go see?? Ya know, that one about the stolen art now? Nothing like having 6000 reminders about one disaster
This is going really well, I think I'll hang around before I hit the theater.
Where is the Empire...
If I had an Empire, the Philippines would be overwhelmed with help -- yes, overwhelmed, and yes, already.
If they have a Boardwalk , Chris Christie has millions for them. If its just people's houses, not so much.
Chris Christie would have eaten several large Filipino children by now if he had to weather the storm like a regular joe.
Git IN mah bellie.
For all their 'you need us' bs, governments never do well when these things happen. It shouldn't take so long to get enough rice, water and fuel in there to keep the people alive.
The corpses are going to bring cholera if they leave them lying.
But eh, when the same thing happens in the US, people won't be calling preppers a bunch of nutjobs anymore.
You're right, they won't.
They'll be calling you a greedy hoarder instead.
How dare you "conserve" something, and store away for a time of disaster. How dare you not help your fellow citizens in need. It's not their fault they'd rather party all weekend or spend their money on frivilous shopping trips.
It'll be a case of "it's only fair" you know - "we all have to pull together to help those less fortunate than ourselves"
If you don't assist voluntarily, then there will certainly be a degree of "enforcement".
The same thing we call alabamans after Katrina's full force smashed into it, grazing neighboring louisiana.
Our leaders look after us.
Right?
If the UN and the "aid" organisations were interested in helping people they could drop leaflets showing how to build a solar water distiller. Or showing which native plants are edible.
Instead they want to emphasise the need for external assistance, which fosters dependency and enables the graft.
True.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_still#Seawater_still
"soldiers fired warning shots into the air"
You mean into the ground right? Surely they were smart enough to shoot not into the air right? What is this Libya?
Gosh where in the world do you start to rebuild. What a horrific tragedy.
They'll bury the dead, set aside the usable bits of wood and tin, and rebuild the exact same city in the exact same way on top of the graves.
They will get another chance to do this about every 20 years, or until some really bad storm washes them all man woman and child into the sea.
I agree. House by house I guess.
To think that astronauts were taking pictures of this typhoon (days before it hit) and tweeting from space, marveling at it in their low oxygen brain effected stupor. All the while the custodians on Earth just sat there as the biggest storm in history just wiped out a ton of poor Filipinos living in tin sheds and wooden weather-board houses.
What a glorious world.
What do you propose should've happened? Do you suggest that no one live in areas that are prone to hurricanes/typhoons/cyclones? That no one live in flood zones (even 500 year)? Earthquake prone regions? No one should live in those areas? In Tornado inducing plains areas people should just pack up and avoid?
He seems to be making the point that the West knew this storm would hit, and the consequences for life and property....yet did nothing to prepare aid in advance, despite the technology which saw the devastating storm coming.
You just designated 80% of the continental US uninhabitable. Leaving Nevada and maybe part of Iowa. And honestly, I don't think they want the rest of us to move there.
With all due respect, you are conflating issues. The Philippines is a foreign country last time I checked. It is a valid point to highlight the hypocrisy of U.S. government policy in its choice of aid priorities abroad.
As for the U.S.A., well, we're on our own, aren't we? No foreign country going to give us aid, thankfully. And no government caring for the fate of this country, self-evidently.
Get the USGS fault overlay for google earth and then look at Nevada with all 5 of the eras (encompasses back to beginning of Pleistocene IIRC) activated...
Here you go...
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/hazards/qfaults/google.php
I remember when New Orleans was flooded, the chimps on CNBC were all jumping up and down slamming their bananas down and proclaiming this "Bullish for stocks" "Go long Lumber". The chief ape Kudlow said, that this would finally allow a rebuild of the city with all the blacks gone to Huston. Failing to notice that he himself was the biggest fucking ape on the planet.
Made me laugh! Slamming their bananas ...
Then this oughta really make you laugh! ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbgv8PkO9eo
There's no cure for stupidity. Keynsian thinking says broken windows and broken people trigger production of new homes, and health services...all taxed by the state. Big Brother is watching, calculating, and cares nought for the misery of victims, so long as .gov and its biggest banks get their money.
Fleets of helicopters with aid already in place should have been in waiting somewhere. This happens every year. Why wait until after the fact to get the coorindates in place? It's just irresponsible, as if they want the people to suffer as much as possible (the weak are who suffer the most).
You know how big those "fleets of helicopters" would have to be??? Like a significant portion of the entire planets rotary lift capacity! When you are looking to consider an aerial relief effort, merely look to the numbers involved in just trying to supply 250-300K troops in Stalingrad by air (granted, under combat conditions, but unable to even get 500-750 tons a day in) or the Berlin airlift (2000 tons of foodstuffs a day and about 4000 tons of coal, for nearly a year). Inflation adjusted, it cost about 4.5 billion dollars to airlift supplies to Berlin for about a year.
Relief for an area like the Phillipines needs to be pre-staged in hardened warehouses situated above ~500 feet mean sea level with military/airport grade paved roads and rail lines entering and leaving. They should also have one or two special port facilities specifically engineered to withstand innundation with a minimum 24 hour back on line time, they could even have one or two of their relief "warehouses" actually positioned on surplus military sealift ships or container carriers that specifically put to sea to weather giant cyclones with the intent of returning to those emergency port facilities. THATS planning.
You're right of course. We CAN plan for anything. BUT we CAN'T plan for EVERYTHING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCOZD1YQ6Q8&feature=c4-overview&list=UUHE...
Saw that this morning... makes a lot of sense in many ways, if in fact it turns out to be true that charging the atmosphere caused the storms.
tony,
I would like to thank you for looking up, and telling us about what's going on in the weather warfare. Like most people, my time is limited, and ZH is always a good read. I'm perfectly capable of discerning the difference between bull$hit and credible information. Cheers.
saw that, coming from Guam
You guys actually seem to believe this shit...
No wonder we are so fucked as a country...
got any better theories? no fucking way earth had storms like these a hundred years back
It can be debated whether storms like this have occured in the past however, there is no fucking way HAARP has anything to do with it...
The fact that temperatures have risen 0.8 C over the past 100 years thereby increasing the water vapor levels by 4% might have something to with it though...
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/ZonAnn.Ts+dSST.txt
and
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/data/gridded/data.noaa.ersst.html#temp
or make your own plot for the zone of interest here
I don't know. Before the atomic bomb, would you believe in such a thing?
However here we are, being radiated 24/7 since march 11, 2011 and even before, a lot before.
Would you believe in people dropping nuclear waste into the Oceans? And they did it, they DO it, now constantly.Before Chernobyl, would you believe in such a thing as babies with two heads, the brain outside the head, tumors biggers than themselves practically out of the body, etc.? And we had them, we have them.
Building NPPs that we don't need to cover depleted uranium ammo's production. Results? Not only Fukushima. Get familiar:
http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/depleted_uranium_iraq_afghanistan_balkans.html
Einstein predicted it all. Nobody paid attention.
Haarp could be another of those issues...
Mad people own the red buttons (and the money). Anything is possible beyond our imagination. We don't matter, not yet.
You clearly have never taken a course in Electrodynamics or Metrology....
Why can't they repurpose the drones to drop supplies? Why can't they get the military helicopters to drop in food and supplies? Why can't they airlift trucks from one region to another with the industrial helicopters? Why is it that we can only invent when it's death and destruction but we're mindlessly dumb when it comes to relief and charity? Fuck this world, it's not worth saving.
cos this is a james bond film numbnuts and israel,usa and the uk are the haarp bad guys.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-itEbfAGxZB4/UW79OxU3xEI/AAAAAAAAAKU/aNuX6W93Qq...
PHILIPPINES: HELL ON EARTH - CONSEQUENCE OF MAN'S USURPATION OF MOTHER NATUREhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meFE4G31NeY&list=FLHE92x768p8h-fMrqhsnE1Q
I know Tony, I was just trying to expose the hypocrisy. Still sickening that people are dying because of the greed of others. Damn this shit has to stop one day. I'm doing what I can to make it happen.
Ah, I see someone is beginning to understand.
A little story I wrote on the subject, during a particularly dark moment:
http://madscienceunlimited.com/fiction/actsOfCharity.html
Ranger,
It's Veteran's Day, and I would like to give you hope from my dearly departed Dad who always said: 'It's a beautiful world.'
It is, Ranger, and it is worth making the effort. Have faith in goodness, even on the darkest days.
Agreed Constitutional... I'm not that dejected, just hate the direction we're heading.
Did the Typhoon affect the Fukishema workers?
The fish gods are pissed over all that dynamite they be fishin' wit.
no fish gods dick head.
just satanic families harvesting negative neutrinos from the human horror.
stealing children and taking over poor countries that do not comply.
cern,operation ice cube,haarp.
weather weapons do not exist mad con spiracy 1976 such a long time ago.
tesla had it worked out 80 years ago.
UN 1976 Weather Weapon Treatyhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/3436120/UN-1976-Weather-Weapon-Treaty
MSM SAY WEATHER WEAPONS ARE FANTASY WEATHER MOD TECHNOLOGY MODEST AND ONLY GOOD FOR LOCAL WHY THEN OLD TREATY.
FUNNY OLD ROTHSCHILD WORLD.
Why don't you take your nonsense here:
www.godlikeproductions.com
Where can an honest citizen buy .22 ammunition?
use gunbot.com (not a link just the name here) there is plenty of .22 from multiple sources but it might not be at a good price
Those darn babylonians are getting pretty good at the distractions, eh.
What's next? A grid shut down and communist invasion? Some sort of sun related issue to milk? In today's whacky world of the up is down and down is up, who knows?
Can you say Obamagate...benghazigate...bostongate...illegal aleiangate...fast and furiousgate...scam in Syria to start a wargate...creating and supporting the al-cia-duh terroristsgate...scams to take gunsgate...nsa spygate...lyinggate...gategate...etcgate. The crimegate goes on every day.
What criminals with far too much power and world influence will do to take the light off their criminilistic adventures in corruptoland, is beyond the normal imagination. The horrors of the control lever handlers are much to much to continue in the faces of the lemming society.
When you take the vicious dog's biscuit, will he tear you apart, or just stare at you? It depends on whether or not he is hungry.
Apocolypse Now was filmed in the Philippines. Now they get the real thing...
It is out of context coverage and over the top hyperbole that lacks any restraint to accurately and truthfully report what happened here.
This Tacloban area of the Phillippines at the mouth of the San Juanico Strait that has been on endless media replay from 900 different camera angles is about 200,000 people. No doubt these people in the eye endured the wrath of a terrible storm, but, "The Phillipines" are doing much much much better than this extremely narrow coverage indicates. 30 miles to the east of Tacloban, also bearing the brute force of the storm is Hernani - reporting 200 dead out of over 8,000 people. Manila (1.6M people), meanwhile, only minor damage consistent with a bad seasonal storm. Same for Quezon City (2.8M ppl) and Caloocan (1.5M ppl).
For some context, the "eastern area" has a significant amount of the population largely living in shantys made from corrougated aluminum and wood scraps.
So yes, this is a tragedy for those affected. But the scale and context of the damaged areas versus the Phillippines as a whole is sorely lacking. The geography challenged talking heads who know exactly nothing about the Phillippines are ensuring that context and proportionality will not be heard in a factual nor truthful manner. And yes, they will even knowingly or unknowingly lie for their ratings. If you didn't help the Phillippines in their poverty pre-storm, there really isn't much that it will do now other then ensure the tragedy wolves are fed while the people see little to no assistance beyond the immediate news cycle.
This is perhaps the most heartless comment that I have ever read here on ZH. You need divine help.
The first few days are disasterporn at their peak. What many do not realize and what I want to make pointedly clear is that the people in the areas seriously affected are starving and fighting for food EVERY DAY. Is it heartless to ask where was the asistance last year for the needy, last month, last week? Reuters has sent photographs around the world that merely catalog daily existence for the people in these hard hit areas. Food is scarce EVERY DAY. Shelter is scarce EVERY DAY. And where was the aid then?
Thanks for your sentiment (and the inevitable downvote, of course) but the only thing heartless is the raw exploitation of crisis that has little or nothing to do with the temporary condition or permanent condition of these areas. Meanwhile, much of the Phillipines carries on with little to no issue.
You have a pretty good idea of what's going on. Phillippines is a densly populated archipelago How many millions are actually affected? Is Tacloban the worst of it? Then it can be supported pretty well and relatively quick. If the number of victims is in the millions who will need food, water, shelter and so on the task will be insurmountable and the faint of heart should look away.
More old people die of hypothermia in Britain each year than have died in this Typhoon.
How come all the charity comes from nomrla citiozens and Blankfein who does gods work sens nothing
Bankers should give their bonuses
Money funding the relief efforts is flooding in from the Filipino diaspora (OFW's Overseas Foreign Workers) all over the world. Rich Hong Kong is spontaneously organizing money and supplies right now. The weakest link is logistical. The will, the goodwill and the money is there. Filipinos are a very tight-knit community. And resourceful. This will be evident in the coming days. Just watch.
I taught ESL for 20 years and was all over Asia and the ME. I had to admire the Filipinos I met all over the world. They had enough UMPH to go to other countries, do shit work for shit wages and still send what they could to their families back home.
Part of the problem is the way the Spanish colonized. Everything was taken back to Spain, everyone was exploited. The Spanish just took. At least the Brits expected their colonies to be self supporting and trade with the mother country.
Part of the problem too, is the geography. Smack dab in the middle of the ocean, in a geologically hot area. The Flips gets hit with earthquakes, storms and most of the other crappy things that Mother Nature can throw at them.
I admire and like the Filipino people, I will donate money to help them and wish them well.
In May of 2008 a cyclone struck the Irrawaddy Delta region in southern Burma. You may not have heard about it. A twenty to thirty foot storm surge had little in its way save for huts and palm trees on land that rises barely three feet above sea level for fifty miles. A hundred eighty thousand souls were taken. Days after the waters receded, you could see bodies on the top of palm trees, not because people had climbed up, but because the surge had deposited them there. Occasionally a rotting hand or a foot would fall off and startle you. Roads were impassable, and creeks and rivers were clogged with the dead.
Aid groups piled in, but they made all sorts of mistakes. At the grassroot level people organized their own aid delivery system, even though the average Burmese had next to nothing. A good deal of official aid ended up for sale in markets on the opposite side of the country. The UN transferred in tens of millions of dollars, but despite their having been in country for decades, they got hosed on the exchange rate to the tune of 25%. Much of the funds they exchanged went toward the purchase of Toyota Landcruisers for staff, at $400K a pop due to import restrictions.
The government demonstrated its concern by doing photo ops handing out old box-style TV sets to survivors in the delta, getting the event photographed for the official gazette, then taking the TV back. The survivors didn't mind the lost TV, since they never had electricity anyway, before or after the storm.
It took an entire monsoon season to cleanse the soil of the deposited salt.
These things are horrific. Pure hell. Generosity is appreciated, but the caveat is to know your aid group. Personal experience has shown me that Medicines san Frontieres does an outstanding job with minimal admin expenses and maximum understanding of the immediate needs. The UN is the worst. For those who choose to do so this time.......
All else aside, herein lies a statement which should end all our pointless bitcoin/gold/fiat squabbling.
"...even if you have money there is no food to buy."
"There is nothing here."
I know someone in Cebu and just sent them $500 by Western Union for building supplies to put a new roof on their house before the next storm hits. I feel like I got 100% traction for my money and helped someone directly. Know someone in the Philippines? Help them directly if you can...
Population of the Philippiness about tripled in the last 50 years.
Mother Earth now sent the first invoice.
Considering that the official languages of the Phillippines are Tagalog and Filipino, it is curious to see a sign saying "We Need Help' in English. Why not say that in Mandarin? I gave to Team Rubicon - I am tired of giving to the Red Cross and having them use my money for a $500,000+ a year director, fancy offices and buildings, and more fund raising... I want my money going to vets who volunteer and put boots on the ground where help is needed...