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Fort Drum Drone Down - New York Suspends All Reaper Flights
Following the FAA's warning that over 7,500 unmanned drones will be in US Airspace in the next five years, we thought news of yet another domestic drone down was noteworthy. Just a couple fo months ago we reported the crash (and self-destruction) of 2 drones in Florida, and now officials at the 174th Attack Wing suspended all Reaper drone flights in Central New York Tuesday after one of the unmanned aircraft crashed into Lake Ontario about 12 miles from the eastern shore during a routine training flight. As WNYF TV reports, the drone - one of four based at Fort Drum - was operated remotely from near Syracuse. Officials are investigating the crash but added, in some hope of reassurance, "the mission was going as advertised, up to the point where we did lose control of the airplane."
WNYF TV reports:
The airforce explains itself:
The site of the crash - (via Syracuse.com),
A Coast Guard helicopter and search vessel were unable to recover the $4 million drone, which crashed about 1 p.m. Tuesday, and were forced to call off the search late in the afternoon because of bad weather, said Col. Greg Semmel, commander of the 174th Attack Wing of the Air National Guard.
Semmel said he did not know what caused the accident.
No decision has been made yet on when Reaper training flights will resume, Semmel said. He emphasized that the unmanned combat aircraft, which was introduced by manufacturer General Atomics in 2007, has a good safety record.
The drone crashed into the lake about 20 miles northeast of the Port of Oswego, and about 12 miles from the eastern shore, Semmel said.
The Reaper that crashed Tuesday was unarmed and had been in the air about three hours when it went down in the lake, Semmel said.
Semmel estimated the cost of the lost Reaper at $4 million to $5 million.
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So why again do they call drones flying over New York "Reaper" flights? If I organized a "Reaper" march on Washington or New York, I'm pretty sure where I'd be spending the next few years.
Bro - "Don't Fear The Reaper"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6QAAoPpWfk
Those drones need more cowbell.
Couple upstate rednecks bored while downrigging for landlocks.
One can only hope.
pods
"up to the point where we did lose control of the airplane.""
In other is news, Central Bank is provide assurances "We are carefully regulation of monetary policy until we are lose control of fiat currency."
Cute analogy. But this does sound like somebody shot the thing down.
I'm amazed that the people of Syracuse want such things flying overhead.
The guy in the coveralls has groovy flare.
Just arrived here.
I was trying to guage the reactions before looking at the video of the pasty-faced, chestless 'war hero' girl-boi who is promoting the survelliance state (as seen when opening this page). Is he chewing his cud, or simply happy to see drones? I guess, for his 'actions above and beyond the call of bankster duty', Obama the Nobel Peace Prize-winning president (who brags about being really good at killing people) will make him the next Secratary of Important Bullshit Dissemination.
I wish I WAS the 'someone who shot the thing down'. Hell, if I DO see one live-time, I guarantee I'll be shooting to kill!
FUCK the 'TIA' BULLSHIT!
Bitch looks like a younger Yellen.
Just arrived here? Seems to me that you have been a member for 4 years, and I recall you posting in the past with a picture of Scotty from Star Trek. And I also seem to recall you trying to incite violent remarks then, as well.
You can't see the drones, nevermind shoot them.
pods
It's all the vespene gas you need to make reapers that make them not very cost effective.
Pillow biter, shoot to fucking kill!
UT UAV Target Acquisition System
http://sourceforge.net/projects/utirs/
"Project Mayhem drone called 'The Interceptor', codename Ginsu, has a takeoff weight of about 1200 pounds and a maximum speed of about 275 knots. It's unusual design mimics a hammerhead shark with a lateral projection that's used to slice the targeted drone in half."
Over.
Your retort seems you are trying to incite violence here.
What are the odds one of these rogue drones hitting the White House?
Much more likely to hit some kids on a playground and kill them. Heck maybe if we are lucky one of them can crash and take out the Homecoming Queen.
Look out! The Homecoming Queen's got a gun!
......nice, Blue Oyster Cult's only hit.......
Only hit with as more cow bell, but remember I am burning for you!
Burn out the day, burn out the night...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0X5YpOkSz4
"Oh no, look out Tokyo, here comes Godzilla!"
"Those drones need more cowbell."
The NSA has a fever. And the only prescription, is more drones.
In retrospect, some of the only decent stuff about SNL is when Christopher Walken was guest host and some Belushi stuff. I stopped watching it 20 years ago or so and TV about 7 years ago.
You're missing some good newer stuff. Granted it's lowbrow, but still. http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/7cd2e1d8f0/dick-in-a-box-uncensored
You would for sure have your own drone assigned.
They are named "Reaper" because while they are invading your privacy, they just might fall out of the sky and freaking KILL you...
The Reaper was designed to be an attack drone, and nothing less. I'd be curious to know what kind of ordinance it had attached to it at the time of the crash.
Would you like Reaper A or Reaper B.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hellfire+missiles+reaper+dro...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=metalstorm&sm=3
All for my safety of course. We would not want unarmed terrorists entering the US over the weak lakefront border.
I'd bemoan the descent of our civilization, but considering this is the product of our civilization, I'll just end with this: We have met the enemy and he is us. :(
These people are insane. Metalstorm. Predator. Hellfire. What fucking arcade do these fantasy loving losers think they live in?
Between the bankers who think they are the priests, and the soldiers who think they are the saviors, I don't know what's worse, the narrative or the delusion.
Choices, choices.
Between the bankers who think they are the priests, and the soldiers who think they are the saviors, I don't know what's worse, the narrative or the delusion.
Yes. One of the Air Force's "Attack Wings" is flying drones named "Reaper" over civilian heads for "training" right here in the good ole USA, where the damned terrorists hate us for our freedom. So then, by definition, the Air Firce are terrorists, because it by now should be quite obvious to everyone that the people who hate us for our freedom are the government.
Well, in this case it's used by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, it's a hunter-killer that's been retro'ed for high altitude surveillance.
FYI, they are all armed incase they need to take out a threat, i.e. semi-truck with explosives, hijacked airliner, baby in a baby stroller,
Has the wreckage been salvaged yet?
No. If you can find it, it'd make a nice RC toy for Christmas.
On foreign soil, yes. In the US no. It's just plain vanilla surveillance.
Semi-truck with explosives, hijacked airliner, whatever, are not blown up bro, this ain't Iraq.
But one has to wonder if we won't be seeing more of these as bandwidth shortages on the satcoms are causing in flight outages:
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2013/April/Pages/Satellit...
Over
Until it is not just plain vanilla.
We will find out soon enough, as there are MANY folks that have made lots of money salvaging stuff (like ancient logs) from the bottom of that lake and in that immediate OA. Im sure that some toothless water logger from Pulaski is licking his chops right about now.
Don't drone me .gov!
if they fly them low enough, they might be used for target practice by some rifle enthusiasts. Someone told me those bullets can travel like 2 miles
You might be able to shoot at them but don't use your laser sights. That's illegal.
YUP.
Remember, the rounds you use must only be of steel. LEAD is ILLEGAL, according to the E.P.A..
Keep the greenies happy, and the world SAFE!
I would think you'd have to be a pretty damn good shot to hit a small fastmoving target at 2 miles..
Aren't these the same drones that could be hacked by nerdy teenagers? Instead of nerds 'swatting' each other maybe they could 'drone' each other
A "training flight". Training for what, is left up to your imagination.
Reaping, apparently.
I see the Reaper, where's the Sower?
Whenever I read the words, "routine training operation", I equate it with "unusual criminal activity" of the WTF variety.
OK everyone, sound off! Who's not accounted for today? Hopefully someone here wasn't engaged in one of those fateful boat rides on Lake Ontario with all of their PM's, guns and ammo on board.
So... we can surmise that everything is under control until it isn't?
Sounds vaguely familiar
What EXACTLY was the drone's mission over the US?
US military and security infrastructure - you're breaking our hearts.
Their mission is to prevent illegal immigration, human traffickers and smugglers :) No? If you're even thinking of illegally crossing the border to come into the USSA, you should be droned, tazed and sht 37 times by our stasi police just for being an idiot.
The drones are probably to assist illegals in distributing drugs to their drug dealers. Open borders has a lot to do with the narcotics trade with much of it being run out of Chicago.
It's to make sure the people don't leave. Other way around.
Alright, which one of you shot it down? Fess up.
I did with my LWRC R.E.P.R. It was fun.
Miffed;-)
Nice hardware soldier but she'd be out of range.
Mini's will do the trick.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-176_Griffin
Over.
I'm thinking directed-energy weapon.
If the Iranians could hack one of our drones, there are certainly some enterprising hackers here who'd have a go at it.
- back to shotguns for CNY.
the system works....again
I did it.
What a shame it is that the energy and sentiment applied so nicely to JPM today does not know how to direct itself in ultimately a more appropriate direction -- that point of control that could shut down both the banksters and the drones-and-their-sponsors in a heartbeat.
HERF guns and high-powered lasers, bitchez!
Just wait; 'ere long one of these fucking robot instruments of Hell will collide with a dreamliner or crash into an Elementary school full of kids and there will be a "Congressional Committee" to look into it; and five years later there will be NO CHANGES and more dead people, just like the Wall Street Ponzi.
Bank on it, er...
p.s. - No live human being flying the damn drone means the drone pilot and agency doesn't give a shit if they lose the drone. More moral hazard folks, the baboons of society are in control until they are put back in their cage.
If it kills anyone they'll blame hackers.
They don't "kill," they "liberate." In some cultures, they're popular at weddings.
This crash is probably the result of some junior grade desk jockey playing with himself when he should have been tugging his joystick.
They were "enemy combatants".
No way that drone was worth even 1/16th what they speculate.
The worth of an item and what the government paid for it often have little correlation.
Don't drone me Bro......
How much will it cost ME for these assholes to figure out A) Where their TOY is, B) Why it went down, and most importantly C) HOW MUCH MORE IT WILL COST me TO INSURE THEY DON'T FUCK UP THIS BAD AGAIN!!!!
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*for the english majors out there
Any drone flying over me better have a wingman.
They admit they lost control, but they are not saying if somebody took control. it is just a matter of time until the communication frequency is determined and some more time to decipher the control codes. They can be hacked. You can record the transmissions and observe the drone to figure out left, right, up, and down.
The patriot who shot it down gets bonus points for making it crash into a lake.
I like "bombs bursting in air", 4th of July style. Makes it easier to keep score.
Over.
i know this could be a stupid question for many...
but i m asking myself which kind of signal they're using to remotely control the drones?
Satcom. Pentagon has their own sats and also leases space mostly on Iridium using their L-band spectrum.
(iridium --> bin laden grp, llc) ;)
Over.
so a virus could be made to take over the drones.......
btw... i have to say it...
if you like your reaper you can keep it :)
Palin said there would be death panels, not death drones. Logan's Run with a twist.
this is the paradigm that is running the whole world.
left/right the biggest lie ever said. while we argue on palin or bush or obama or anyone else. they STEAL. and that's true for every fucking country in the world. there in no country in the world that can call itself out of this game.
"Officials are investigating the crash but added, in some hope of reassurance, "the mission was going as advertised, up to the point where we did lose control of the airplane."
In the new Obama (as a puppet) normal... this statement is pointed to as "transparency".
That's 7500 times $3 to $4 million, which is $22.5 to $30 billion dollars of taxpayer money spent on surveillance of those very same taxpayers... which is us; manned on the ground by some kid with big thumbs and a fat ass that grew up eating twinkies and drinking Mountain Dew playing computer games all day and just does what he is told... so he can go home at night, sit on his ass, play computer games, eat twinkies and drink Mountain Dew. Holy Sweet Baby Jesus! Welcome to Amerika. www.electanewcongress.com
" "the mission was going as advertised, up to the point where we did lose control of the airplane." "
A chance those flying iron are not nuclear powered, ... mmmh ?
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Does this really matter?
Iran got one of our top of the line drones, undamaged, and to my knowledge never gave it back...
Wikipedia (for what it's worth) says
This drone drops 500 lb bombs and Hellfire missles. Also, wikipedia says a touch under $17 million per aircraft, not $4-5 M.
$17 million is probably the MSRP. $4-5M, the amoritized value. Don't make 'em like they used to.
That drone was a little spending. Perhaps because it was designed with some serious bells and whistles designed to more than simply monitor, eh?
I hope it was a couple of skeet shooters.
We've had two crash here - last one was not far from a residential area. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes them to crash into someone's livingroom. Bastards.
it's just matter of time, not if it will or if it will not happen.
you can only hope that when it happens the drone coming down will not be loaded with 500lbs bomb and hellfire missiles.
NSA sent it up, CIA brought it down.