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Is Obama The Second Coming (And Falling) Of Dubya?

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A rhetorical question that was apocryphal a mere year ago, has emerged as a very realistic option: is Barack Obama the second coming of Dubya? Policy initiatives aside, in this case we simply look at the plunging popularity ranking of both presidents in their second term as shown on the chart below.

Driven primary by the horrifying rollout of Obamacare in the aftermath of the government shutdown distraction (whose stated motive ironically was the delay of Obamacare which one can imagine is precisely what Obama wishes would happen right now), the Real Clear Politics popularity tracker shows that as of the latest week, the president Disapproval rating has risen to a record high, coupled with a record drop in his approval rating:

This is what a recent Pew study had to say:

In contrast, the two prior presidents who won reelection – Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan – enjoyed positive ratings over the course of the next year. At comparable points in their fifth year in office, 58% approved of Clinton’s job performance while Reagan’s job rating stood at 62%.

 

The new survey finds that majorities disapprove of the way Obama is handling four of five issues tested, with terrorism the lone exception (51% approve, 44% disapprove). For every issue, including terrorism, his ratings are lower than they were earlier this year.

Obama’s job ratings on the economy have been more negative than positive for more than four years, but the current measure is the worst of his presidency. Just 31% approve of the way Obama is handling the economy, while 65% disapprove.

 

Only about one-in-five independents (21%) give Obama positive marks on the economy, while 75% disapprove. About a third of Democrats (34%) disapprove of the way Obama is handling the economy (64% approve).

 

Obama also gets negative ratings on health care policy (37% approve, 59% disapprove). In January, views of Obama’s handling of health care policy were mixed (45% approved, 47% disapproved).

 

The administration has come under intense criticism for the flawed roll-out of the Affordable Care Act. In a recent interview with NBC News, Obama apologized to those who have lost their health insurance under the law, despite his assurances that they would be able to stay on their plans.

 

Only about a third of the public (32%) approves of the job Obama is doing on immigration policy; 60% disapprove. Obama’s ratings for this issue among Democrats are mixed: About half (53%) approve of his handling of the issue while 42% disapprove.

Finally, as Bloomberg Bloomberg News Political Analyst Matthew Dowd discusses in observing that the "campaigner in chief" may not have been the governor in chief so many expected, "when presidents drop this low in their second term, they have never recovered.

So as a result of a rushed rollout to cement his sterling legacy, has Obama instead doomed himself in the history books to be the second coming of Dubya?

It remains to be seen: Obama still has three more years and thus enough opportunity to make his predecessor truly shine in retrospect.

 

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Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:34 | 4158215 Rehab Willie
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Obama needs to smoke a joint, live on CNN, to get his numbers back.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:45 | 4158232 somecallmetimmah
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Please.  Pot is so bourgeois.  How about if he performed a 3rd trimester abortion live (NPI) on Good Morning, America!

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:46 | 4158263 Jonas Parker
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Naw, he needs to get drunk and smoke crack with the mayor of Toronto on CBC!

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:08 | 4158356 mofreedom
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Then perform a partial birth abortion with his uncle Kermit Gosnell out there on Moooocheleleles garden.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:47 | 4158525 NoDebt
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Look, y'all need to lay off of Obama.  He's a good guy who's doing everything humanly possible to fix the worst economy since the Great Depression that was left to him by Georg W Bush.  It really is all Bush's fault.  If it wasn't for Obama things would be so much worse you could scarcely imagine it.  

The .0000001% might now be only as rich as the .000002%.  Our embassador to Libya might still be alive.  We might be in the middle of an economy-juicing war in Syria.  Russia might not look more free and open than United States.  The Keystone Pipeline might already be built.  You might have been able to keep your doctor and your health care plan.  The Cambridge PD might still be harassing black people.  And the polar ice caps might not have been saved.  Obviously, not the kind of world you would want to live in.

So before you start getting down on the guy just because he tells one little insignifcant lie (that was for your own good anyway), you might recognize the herculean effort this man has expended purely for your benefit, against an entire government power structure hell-bent on keeping him in the dark about important matters and trying to make him fail, you should spend some more time thinking about it.  The proper response is "thank you, Mr. President."

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:23 | 4158688 Clycntct
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I gave you a + but only since your from Snarkland.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 17:51 | 4159246 Ying-Yang
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"Is Obama The Second Coming (And Falling) Of Dubya?"

Ebony And Ivory Live Together In Perfect Harmony

George W. McCartney and Barack Wonder

or

Honey I know, I know, I know times are changing.
It's time we all reach out for something new,
That means you too.
You say you want a leader,
But you can't seem to make up your mind.
I think you better close it,
And let me guide you to the purple rain.

Purple Rain (Demwits & Repubics)

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:11 | 4158375 TBT or not TBT
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Get Monica back to tea bag him while he talks about an active national security situation. Invite Anderson Cooper to gonzo-report it live, since he is really passionate about all of above.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:23 | 4158376 TBT or not TBT
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Fri, 11/15/2013 - 16:21 | 4158924 Bangin7GramRocks
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With his bare hand. Joint in the other!

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:03 | 4158338 SheepDog-One
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Gee what's wrong....some of the Free-Shit Army even bummed out about their Messiah?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:09 | 4158363 krispkritter
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Free under Obie ain't as free as they thought it would be.  When even the EBT's don't buy as much anymore, those people are gonna start eyeing up the Have's and trying to take what they want.  Then shit gets interesting.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Video-Flash-Mob-Robberies-Chicago-Sports-Authority-230985451.html

This is happening everywhere.  Wait until Christmas...

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 17:41 | 4159220 Pig Circus
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O'BummerCare will kill more Americans then Iraq involuntarily except for the sucides.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 18:35 | 4159378 Tall Tom
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You may be on to somethimg. The EBT Cards were slashed this month and Obummer's popularity dropss?

 

Hmmm....by what percent?

 

Is there a correlation between the Jerk's popularity and the amount one gets from EBT?

 

I will bet that is a High Sigma.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 18:14 | 4159306 Element
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Gonna need those new teleprompter upgrades installed ASAP, and a rousing speech in a Chicago park, in a sharp new suit, some pyrotechnics and a pet dog appearance, with a Lincoln memorial stage-prop theme. Works every time.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:07 | 4158354 Crash Overide
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O'Dubya?

 

*Wait for the meltdown on live TV, it's coming...*

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:12 | 4158378 detached.amusement
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man, if that happened, I think there would be a guinness book of world records event for the most popcorn made at once

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:36 | 4158218 madcows
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Dubya was john the baptist to obama the jesus.  A predecessor, one who is far greater than me, whose sandals he aint fit to tie.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:42 | 4158242 Skateboarder
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That means Billary is L. Ron Hubbard?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:52 | 4158298 johnQpublic
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yes

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:58 | 4158596 Jumbotron
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W. and Odumbo are simply reflections of the American Public

Cue the next useless fuck up in 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOCLf7YrbMI

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:41 | 4158221 The Continental
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The man is a total fraud, from top to bottom, a sick twisted joke played on the American people by the elite. They are no doubt still high fiving and back slapping over this one, pulling the ultimate con off on America by installing a homosexual crack smoking four-flushing BS artist born of a slut mother and drunken polygamist foreigner father, into the highest office in the land. It's Trading Places II, on steroids and LSD.

 

http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=74a73716efb493e85...

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:45 | 4158259 somecallmetimmah
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"...born of a slut mother and drunken polygamist foreigner father..."

C'mon, man.  It's a compelling biography!  Isn't it fascinating?  It's international, it's multi-cultural, it's schizophrenic & drug-induced.  It has no borders, no nationality, devoid of loyalty, or any redeeming qualities whatever.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:00 | 4158319 Bastiat
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Many think his father was card carrying communist who wrote afro-porn ("Sex Rebel") and took nudie pics (including Stanley Ann).

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:14 | 4158388 TBT or not TBT
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Frank Marshall Davis, who Valerie Jarrett also greatly admired.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:28 | 4158439 machineh
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Man, I wish Frank had taken some Super-8 videos of his two-chick threesome.

If only he'd worn a rubber, this nightmare need never have happened ...

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:00 | 4158601 Yes We Can. But...
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I'd bet plenty that DNA test would show that Davis' son Mark Davis and BHO are half-brothers in more ways than one. Almost a sure thing, IMO.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:00 | 4158323 disabledvet
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he still had to beat Hillary Clinton and Senator McCain to win. Romney was no slouch either (and still isn't i might add) but the power of incumbency is tough to beat. I do find it interesting that an "atheism movement" has swept Great Britian and is coming to the USA and apparently drawing huge crowds.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:11 | 4158374 mofreedom
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Romney wasn't willing to fight to get out of the paper bag that was obama the bottle of cheep brandy.  Probably on the direction of that Carl Rove.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:19 | 4158401 TBT or not TBT
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Great Britain looks like a zombie apocalypse at night, with young up to middle age people wandering around drunk and drugged and auto destructively craven, cynical, embracing their animal nature. This has been going on for some decades now.

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 00:07 | 4159994 Curiously_Crazy
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I found places in Nevada and California to be much MUCH worse than say Surrey, Southhampton and Devon last I visted. Granted I never travelled to Manchester or Liverpool and if I had I might reassess.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:36 | 4158469 CvlDobd
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Religion is the tool used by the big guys to train kids to be impressionable unthinking idiots who will believe any lie told to them, no matter how outrageous. If one can believe in talking snakes, bitches turning to salt, torturing kids for making fun of a bald guy, or living in a whale, then surely they will believe their government is benevolent. You just hav to tell these people and they eat it up! Evidence not required in the land of bullshit fairly tale religions!

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 19:04 | 4159458 Tall Tom
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So...do tell me. What are the chances that you could walk through a door and materialize...on Mars? There is a chance of that happening. I would not count on it...but it can happen according to the Laws of Quantum Mechanics.

 

You would not take that long shot bet though...that it may actually ever happen?

 

I would not. It is not reasonable.

 

You like the Big Bang Theory TV Comedy? I do. The Science is pretty accurate. Check out this clip...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SbwmooRTBI

 

I would not bet on that Girl materializing out of thin air by chance either. It is NOT REASONABLE.

 

So do tell me what are the odds that an ENTIRE FUCKING UNIVERSE materializes as a chance event?

 

You must understand that if the Universe did not manifest by chance THEN IT HAPPENED BY DESIGN.

 

Thus one must infer a Designer. That is ONLY REASONABLE. I, as well as 40% of other Physicists, call that Grand Designer, God Almighty.

 

Otherwise you might want to wear Spacesuits for your trip to Mars and buy Ice Creams for non existent women because that is MUCH MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN.

 

Do not give me the NONSENSE EXPLANATION of INFINITE UNIVERSES.

 

First Infinity is an ABOMINATION TO COMPETENT PHYSICISTS.

 

Next I am an EMPIRICIST. I believe in that which there is EVIDENCE. The Universe is my Evidence.

 

Finally a belief in something for which there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE JUST SMACKS OF A BLIND FAITH RELIGION.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 19:21 | 4159478 akak
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Your or my inability to fathom a fact does not logically presuppose the necessity to invoke supernatural sky demons to explain that fact.

Frankly, I am utterly befuddled by the existence of people who enjoy beets, the horrendous flavor of which I find repellant far beyond my ability to adequately express.  I do not, however, automatically invoke the existence of some uber-malignant, purely evil supernatural entity as a means of explaining the origin of beets, or the existence of those who profess to enjoy them.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 20:36 | 4159641 Tall Tom
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It is not just one fact. It is overwhelming evidence.

 

Right now there are Physicists whom believe that "God" is a Computer Programmer and we are the result of a simulation as the evidence suggests that the Universe is Digital. (That is what Quantum Theory demonstrates.) Quantum Theory has been demonstrated to be very accurate. You would not be reading the text on your computer monitor without it.

 

So they have loaded a Supercomputer with all of the pertinent information and are running it to see if they get similar results. My bet is that they do.

 

What I am tired of reading is that the theist is some unreasonable person whom has no ability to think.

 

Frankly from what I read from most of those whom propose atheism is often Blind Faith and smacks of religion.

 

Yet you do not address my conclusion through invalidation of the premise arguments.

 

The EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE for a Creator is overwhelming and, of course, the Mathematics of Probability DEMONSTRATES IT.

 

Just so you get the idea...try flipping Ten Heads in a row...with a Fair Coin. One out of 1024 attempts will yield that result. That is simple.

 

Try 100 Flips in a row. Now the odds are One in an Octillion that it can be done...with a Fair Coin. That is also simple when compared to the complexity of an Enttire Universe...RANDOMLY.

 

Of course if the Coin is not fair (e.g. ...A Two Headed Coin) then it is easily accomplished. The game is "Loaded".

 

So the Universe is NOT RANDOM.

 

The odds that a Universe just "mainfests" itself with allof the Physical Laws and ORDER that it has tells me that there is an underlying DESIGN.

 

In fact the whole Science of Cosmology (Astrophysics of the Univese) is predicated on the Cosmological Principle. It must be a "LOADED" Game of Chance.

 

The Universe is like that Coin Flip with the Two Headed Coin. Most of the time I do not see  chaos. (When I do I investigate and attempt to uncover the underlying order. That is what a competent Scientist does.) If I drop an Object then it falls to the Ground. It might float upward into the atmosphere if it were random. It may remain stationary.

 

But I watch it fall to the ground. And evrytime that I have done that it falls to the ground. Why? There is an underlying rule, the Law of Gravity. Masses attract one another. (Newton declares that it is a Force. Einstein declared it is a Space Time Warp. Whatever it may be...) Why? Because they do. There is an underlying ORDER. It is not chaotic but predictable. The Game is "LOADED" It is not by accident.

 

I will admit that I have an infinitesimal chance of being mistaken. If I am then I will never know it. But if the atheist is mistaken he most assuredly will know it.

 

The Mathematical Odds that the atheist is mistaken is the Mathematical Difference between a Certainty and the Infinitesimal Chance of which I write.

 

It is the Mathematics of Probability along with the disciplne of the Empirical that overwhelmingly demonstrates my conclusion.

 

I thank God that I played a stint at being a Professional Gambler. (I walked away a Net Long Term Winner). That is where I was schooled in Probability...the School of Hard Knocks. I bet when the odds are in my favor. That is how I walked away a Net Long Term Winner.) Why play a Losing Bet?

 

(BTW...I would not be too sure about that malignant entity that created Beets does not exist. I agree. I do not eat those wretched abominations either.)

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 22:02 | 4159801 Miffed Microbio...
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Tom, you speak scientifically. This is a language that is respected among scientists. To employee it to non scientists is generally in my experience not effective ( I personally found God in fractals). Yours is a personal way to realization and enlightenment. It cannot be used for argument I am sad to say. In my experience, most immerse themselves in religion as a safety measure or a social club. A form of belonging and self affirmation. My own conversion was not rational but a Devine miracle that was personally given to me. Those who have heard my tale where impressed but it had no meaning for them because they hadn't experienced it. I think the ultimate realization of devine presence and design must be experienced as an individual. The teller of the tale is looked upon with skepticism and cynicism. At least this is my experience.

Personally I love shaved beets on spinach and sheep feta, drizzled with pomegranate infused balsamic and blood orange infused olive oil. I guess the taste appreciation is not universal. ;-)

Miffed;-)

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 00:08 | 4159812 Mr.Miffed
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Sat, 11/16/2013 - 10:08 | 4160336 Tall Tom
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It was asserted that people whom believe in God are not capable of thinking is the post which inspired my "offensive".

 

Science was not ever intended to replace Religion. Science was developed so that we have an understanding of the inherent Reality of our existence. It is a way of arriving at the Truth. 

 

Science...Modern Science...is the result of the philosopher's quest to settle the question, once and for all, "Is there a God?"

 

(Engineering is just Applied Science to design practical, optimal, solutions to Technological problems. Much of my work has been in Engineering. I have accomplished little real Science in my path. But I have taught Science and Math.)

 

But the Atheist has perverted my Science into a Deity Status which is undeserved and unwarranted, Many have convoluted my Science into a Religion. It is an assault on the two fronts which I place the entire fiber of my existence. It is a violation.

 

Yet the Empirical Evidence uncovered by Science supports the idea of an Intelligent Designer overwhelmingly.

 

("The best defense is a good offense."~ Dan "Air" Coryell, Coach, San Diego Chargers.)

 

I think that I have the best offense regarding this subject...MATHEMATICS, KNOWLEDGE, LOGIC and RATIONAL THINKING.

 

They must find and embrace the Trivium. I gave them more than enough to think about.

 

They can take the infinitesimal odds all that they want. Personally I will wager on the Certainty.

 

Like you, I had a personalized Divine Revelation. But the argument was developed as one of my Mentors, an Atheist Physics Professor, was dying of Lung Cancer. He asked me how that I knew that there was a God. (I made no secret of my affinity toward God during my time at the University.)

 

He was searching as his life was ending. I could not answer him at that time. All that I had was "Blind Faith". I was determined to find a method on how to approach this subject as I never, ever wanted to be placed in that position again.

 

Thank you for understanding.

 

BTW...Mr. Miffed is one lucky guy. I am happy that you enjoy Beets. I have a grin from ear to ear.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 13:55 | 4162657 Miffed Microbio...
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Tom, I appreciate your explanation. I too have had interactions as you describe, some quite distressing in their vehement anger over my beliefs. On one volatile front, I was accused of being an abomination, a vile hypocrite, because Science and Religion must be mutually exclusive. To believe in both meant either a lack of intellegence or a selling out of principles to achieve a Devine approval.

I tried to argue my case without success but looking back, it was primarily defensive. This was probably my error because the debate ended with me appearing infantile, though he did agree I had made a good case against several points of Darwinian evolution he hadn't considered. He claimed it universally was accepted as Fact and I moved him back to Theory ( my only accomplishment). My fatal move which almost came to blows and ended our relationship forever was to imply his belief in Science was in fact a Religion. I believe your method of employing a scientific case would have been far more fruitful.

Perhaps your collegue could have take solice in Randy Pausch's The Last Lecture and Dr Eben Alexander's Proof of Heaven. Both of these books have resonated with my doubting Thomas, sceptical side. The side of me that was never satisfied with "Blind Faith". My Devine Revelation came about as a demand from God for physical proof not spiritual or multi interpretable innuendo. That I got it, forever humbled me. Just like the yogi who has achieved the highest level of Samadhi (Insight into the true nature of phenomena (knowledge and vision))I no longer am searching for validation. I am heartened this seems to be true in your case as well.

To read you are smiling makes me smile as well. So many of your posts swing wildly into nihilism I do get a bit confused by you. Having half of my family bipolar (some severely so) part of me sees you as quite normal. Or may be this is schtick and my reacting to it proves me a silly female.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 01:37 | 4160103 CvlDobd
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And who is the computer programmer that programmed our programmer? And we are back at square one.

I claim just one strong ability. My ability to look straight into the night sky, realize I am completly and totally insignificant, and not give a fuck as to why that is.

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 09:25 | 4160298 Tall Tom
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The "Programmer" is the One who transcends Space-Time as He was ORIGNALLY.

 

As the Ancients correctly declared He is the Light...the actual Physical Light. If you understand Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity if you were to somehow lose your Mass and are traveling at Light Speed there are two phenomena that happen.

 

The first experience that you will have is that you travel ZERO DISTANCE in the Direction of Travel.

 

x = x0(1 - v2/c2)

 

Taking the Limit as v approaches c yields ZERO.

 

The next experience that you will have is that it takes absolutely ZERO TIME to arrive at any Destination.

 

t = t0(1 - v2/c2)

 

Taking the Limit as v approaches c yields ZERO.

 

These are Einstein's well known Lorentz Transform Equations.

 

Therefore, if you were a Light Being, you can be everywhere at once. That is Omnipresence.

 

Furthermore since Light is the Purest form of Energy that is Omnipotence.

 

All that the Physical Universe is...It is Energy slowed down. Can't you see the converse? When Energy slows down to a v < c  it gains dimensionality in the direction of Travel and a Physical Manifestation is realized.

 

You can work those same Lorentz Transforms in the Opposite Direction. You can allow for conditions of v < c. Actually that is what the v's are in our Physical Universe.

 

In fact that is what Einstein's Iconic Equation, E = mc2, means. Since c is a constant then c2  is a constant.

 

Energy-Mass EQUIVALENCE means that THAT THEY ARE THE VERY SAME THING.

 

They are manifestions of the same phenomena at different v's, one condition at v = c and the other condition at v < c.

 

THE MAIN POINT which I am making is that I am tired of the atheist attacking the THEIST as someone backwards whom does not think.

 

I have demonstrated that it is quite different.

 

Oh...and by the way...

 

Roger Penrose, who was Stephen Hawking's MENTOR, addresses the following topic in his Epic Volume, "The Road to Reality ~ A COMPLETE Guide to the Universe"

 

When a very unlikely event occurs, such as the Manifestation of our Physical Universe, there is a term for it.

 

It is called a Miracle...You might want to consider that.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 19:55 | 4159574 Umh
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And you have no idea how many times the universe didn't appear.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 21:07 | 4159675 Tall Tom
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That is right. I do not know, nor, can I know.

 

That is also an Infinite Universe Theory.

 

There is no EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to support that. That smacks of RELIGION.

 

But I certainly can describe the ORDER in this one. If it is ORDERED and not chaotic that is indicative of DESIGN.

 

Therefore there is a Designer.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 22:21 | 4159845 Religion Explained
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Do you have a quantum theory for where the "designer" came from?

No? Well what good is a theory that can't predict the cause for the creation of the universe?

You like empirical evidence, read "Religion Explained" by Pascal Boyer (no relation).

Sorry. Your rationalization for the existance of a supreme being (and the implication that you are or can be bestowed immortality by said being) is the only way humans can escape the mental anguish (which presists even subconsciously without eternal life) caused by the conflict between their animal instinct of self preservation and their awareness of mortality.

C'est la vie.

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 11:58 | 4160376 Tall Tom
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Read my response above. The Designer transcends Space-Time. We are the Material of that Designer slowed to a v < c. It is not Quantum Theory but Special Relativity Theory which describes the phenomena.

 

As the Ancients recorded, "He is the Light and in Him there is no darkness." That is LITERAL.

 

If God is Light, (Ancient Texts, Supported by Einstien Special Relativity Theory)

and Light is Energy. (Maxwell Electrodynamics)

and Energy is cannot be created or destroyed, (Thermodynamics.)

 

Then God cannot be created or Destroyed. (conclusion)

 

It is a moot issue to talk about what created the Designer as He cannot be created.

 

Even the ancients knew this.

 

Let me tell you that the Science illiteracy is amazing.

 

The first word of the Scripture, Genesis, means ORIGNALLY. The first two words, literally translated are "Orignally God"...PERIOD.

 

Punctuation was not inherent in the Ancient Greek Language (or Hebrew.).

 

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:57 | 4158593 FeralSerf
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Maybe it can be called "The Fifth Great Awakening". Is it too late too get this registered as a trade mark?

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/256626.html

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:03 | 4158328 formadesika3
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It's a story Americans wanted to thrill to.

Maybe history detectives will be scratching their heads over the botched plot line.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:11 | 4158341 krispkritter
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He's our very own 'Jerry Springer President'.  

Actually if we could get him to go on Maury instead of the View, we'd at least get a DNA test...

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:53 | 4158563 akarc
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Knowing that 27 people upped that juicy little rant is telling. Makes me wanna buy the Panasonic Viera currently advertised (on my screen anyway, google must know my toshiba is on the fritz). 

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:20 | 4158680 somecallmetimmah
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Yet you remain basically ignored.  Why do you think that is?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:39 | 4158233 sixsigma cygnus...
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Maybe Obama could play on stage live with Aerosmith...yeah, that'll get his numbers back up.  He could play the fiddle...

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:40 | 4158235 wharfdaddy
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He could suck a dick..that might help

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:47 | 4158264 somecallmetimmah
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Meh.  It's been done.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:37 | 4158478 Pure Evil
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But, if he sucked the Wookie's dick live on the X Factor, would that bring his ratings up?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 19:14 | 4159477 StychoKiller
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Sounds more like an episode of "The X-Files!"

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:32 | 4158455 The Continental
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So true, so true.....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Uy2K5SIuK2E

 

Long legged mack daddy indeed.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:40 | 4158236 MFLTucson
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Good try but Bush was an American, this man is un-American trash!

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:22 | 4158410 TBT or not TBT
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He's more like primo quality dream team anti-American, but yeah.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:22 | 4158412 akarc
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Good try but trash is trash.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:12 | 4158240 Yes We Can. But...
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Second coming?  More like the one hundred millionth coming. Obama is just a common boob, not a particularly talented fellow, certainly not a leader of people or an executive caliber manager.  So ordinary - average student at best, spotty work history, mediocre athlete (watch the guy swing a golf club or roll a bowling ball), dabbled with drugs, wife is mediocre (read her moronic masters thesis),not well-spoken off-script.  He'd be living the ordinary life destined for him - Bears on Sunday, sampling Chicago area golf courses, struggling to get the kids off to and through college, who knows maybe a little down-low activity on the side - except that his narcissism and a host of enablers led him to this highly visible position where he finds himself in deeply over his head, way beyond his capabilities. 

This is a sad situation for all.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:31 | 4158449 machineh
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Nothing's stopping him from resigning ... but his own hyperinflated ego.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:17 | 4158671 Variance Doc
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Wrong.  Barry serves the capacity that TPTB chose for him: useful idiot.  Unless he does something that pisses off the Free Shit Army into some kind of action, he be stayyin' 'n shit.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:29 | 4158720 prains
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 except that his narcissism and a host of enablers led him to this highly visible position where he finds himself in deeply over his head, way beyond his capabilities. 

 

AND my fellow serfs of the MIC.......this can be said for President X,Y,Z.........and N to the Nth same old same old now it's JUST WAY MORE OBVIOUS.......Ronnie and George Squared were fools of the same magnitude.....just handled slightly better

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:42 | 4158241 digitlman
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Is it me or has ZH chat not worked for anybody today?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:45 | 4158257 olto
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all shuck'n jive

all you gotta know

'bout brakobama

 

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:01 | 4158326 Bastiat
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As the good Rev. Manning calls him:  "that long-legged mac-daddy."

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:45 | 4158261 Pairadimes
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If Obama was seen strangling a girl scout on live television, the commentators would be telling us he was fixing her collar.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:48 | 4158274 somecallmetimmah
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She had it coming.  Little bitch wouldn't pay her premium for prostate coverage.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:56 | 4158306 moonman
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Well thin mints and tag a longs seem a little racist to me

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:34 | 4158461 TBT or not TBT
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She shouldnt have worn that around Him. It's so ... American. Might as well have brought him blindfolded into a Norman Rockwell exhibit wearing a damned flame thrower, or mini gun.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:47 | 4158265 dick cheneys ghost
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who cares?????????????

tyler, please dont 'jump the shark'........

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:40 | 4158487 Pure Evil
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Too late, he's jumped well over 500 sharks by now.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:50 | 4158282 One And Only
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What do these people approve of? Obamacare? Benghazi? Syria? NSA/CIA scandals? Killing women/children with drones? Attacking political opposition with the irs? Spying on journalists? Purging the military of top commanders? I mean where is this fucking approval coming from?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:00 | 4158320 somecallmetimmah
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"... where is this fucking approval coming from?"

His employees: the pretend "journalists" at NBC, PBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC who rotate in & out of his staff.

It's good to be the king.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:19 | 4158397 akarc
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Thats why I always watch FOX. Because out of all the news sources in the world it is least biased, always tells the truth, never lies and is the home to Our Lord Hannity.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:40 | 4158489 TBT or not TBT
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And Michelle Malkin, and Ann Coulter, and Megyn Kelly, and Dana Perino.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:00 | 4158600 somecallmetimmah
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Because they're not actively fellating your lord & savior?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:40 | 4158490 TBT or not TBT
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And Michelle Malkin, and Ann Coulter, and Megyn Kelly, and Dana Perino.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:15 | 4158389 akarc
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"... where is this fucking approval coming from?" 

Not being Bush ll YET (please note the word yet).   

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:02 | 4158608 somecallmetimmah
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Buh-heh-heh!!  Kuz u sed duh wurd yet.  Yuuh huh.  Gotted ti.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:50 | 4158286 Cocomaan
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It's amazing to me that he pulled this off so badly. He basically was given carte blanche to write his own legacy, and the rollout was scheduled for years (signed in 2010)! 

 

I'm compelled to believe this was intentional. 

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:03 | 4158336 somecallmetimmah
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Yeah, but a succesful roll-out would require that someone actually DO something.  You know, like work?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:16 | 4158391 superflex
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Exactly.

In a similar time frame (Dec 7, 1941 to Aug 9, 1945), the US mobilized to fight WWII, built hundreds of thousands of tanks, airplanes, etc and developed the A-bomb.

Yet in today's world, we cant get a website up and running in a similar timeframe?

Something reeks and it's not Reggie's special sauce up the President's rectum.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:31 | 4158450 NOTaREALmerican
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The NSA seems to be doing pretty good.    It really just depends where societies priorities are and where the REAL patriots work.

It appears that the REAL patriots are working for the NSA and working very hard defending the constitution from evil-doers.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:05 | 4158628 somecallmetimmah
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Well, they work your hero.  They take their tasking and paychecks from '0'.

Can you explain why they were too stupid to ask for help from their own people, who do this for a living?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:52 | 4158802 superflex
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I hope you forgot the sarc tag at the end of you post.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 19:18 | 4159484 StychoKiller
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Building a B-17 is much less complex than writing software, especially if it's being written by political donors...

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:17 | 4158395 syntaxterror
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Rollout should have been after the 2014 elections. Or even the 2016 elections. Or the 2018 elections. Or the...

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:20 | 4158406 Al Huxley
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Actually, this was just a fairly typical large software project - badly managed by overpaid consultants, over budget, poorly written by poorly paid, unqualified offshore developers, poorly spec'd by technically illiterate business sponsors more concerned with organizational politics than the project, poorly tested by a clueless and incompetent QA department  - this is pretty typical in the industry. 

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:36 | 4158470 akarc
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yepper, roll it out broke, promise to fix it with updates and watch your share price skyrocket.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:06 | 4158633 somecallmetimmah
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You voted for it.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:26 | 4158432 dracos_ghost
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Because he couldnt care less -- he got the transfer of power he wanted. ACA had little to do with healthcare just as The American Mental Health Act of 2008(aka TARP) had nothing to do with mental health.

It was a power grab. Nothing has changed. He has a little egg on his face but every other evil aspect of ACA stays in place(IRS, Financial Databases of every citizen,etc...) . The joke is on the American people and their impotent representatives in Congress. Even his dipshit architect from MIT was on TV, saying "what, we're talking 3-4 million people affected who cares." But by all means, transfer taxing authority to the fucking Librarian of Congress ( I shit you not).

With the attention span of a gnat that the American people have, this will be old news soon. My prediction, some new bullshit from Miley Cyrus will dominate the news pipeline.

And lastly, Dubya was a peckerhead and all but Obama is in his own league of sociopathic behavior. It's not even reasonable to compare the two.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:34 | 4158465 akarc
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"some new bullshit from Miley Cyrus will dominate the news pipeline."

 

A cher/Madona wannabe. How far we have fallen.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:43 | 4158499 Pure Evil
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Not far enough.

Hitlery awaits in the wings.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:52 | 4158810 Clycntct
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Shudder!

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 13:51 | 4158296 joego1
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I think that when history is written the graph will be Presidential approval vs the decline of the U.S. We see that hopium spike after the complete failure of Bush.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:04 | 4158344 somecallmetimmah
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Keep smokin', Joey-Jo-Jo.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:14 | 4158386 pops
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And who shall write that history?  Hopefully not the same bunch that deified Lincoln.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:45 | 4158507 Pure Evil
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The real question is who will be able to read it?

Mike Judge predicted that we'd be an idiocracy by the 2500's.

I say we're already half way there.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:09 | 4158643 somecallmetimmah
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I heard Obama say that fully 50% of Americans read at or below the average comprehension level.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 19:49 | 4159561 Yes We Can. But...
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500 years out?  I say homo sapiens is extinct or nearly so way before 500 years go by.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:00 | 4158314 SheepDog-One
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Nah, ObaMao is just the latest hand-picked front man stooge from the Central Banksters who actually run everything...gotta make the serfs feel as if they have some say-so in what goes on.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:03 | 4158337 Alcoholic Nativ...
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The Osama Slayer still has some time to make it up though.  He could always foil some terror plots or something.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:09 | 4158364 q99x2
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It takes the fat dumb shoppers at wallmart that are on psychotropic drugs that long to realize they are fat and dumb and that they made a mistake by voting for a psychopath.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:10 | 4158368 alien-IQ
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On a long enough timeline, all politicians are exposed as a puppet and fraud. Why anyone thought this time was different is truly beyond comprehension.

The qualities required to win an election in America are the exact opposite of the qualities one would desire in a leader. In short: the same scumbag always wins.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:27 | 4158433 NOTaREALmerican
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Government has two basic functions:

1) Keeping the smart-n-savvy people from directly killing the dumbasses.    This is what the Constitution is for.

2) Moving loot from the dumbasses to the smart-n-savvy-people.   This is what the economic system is for.

The government enforces both and everybody is happy.

 

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:11 | 4158652 somecallmetimmah
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1) Smart-n-savvy people don't kill dumbasses, they enslave them.

2) Dumbases don't have any "loot".  If they did, you'd call them 'smart-n-savvy-people'.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:16 | 4158394 Al Huxley
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Buchanan can finally rest, knowing he's finally lost the title of worst president ever.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:20 | 4158405 dobermangang
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Obama has failed

The worst President ever

Jimmy Carter smiles!

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:47 | 4158518 Pure Evil
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Are you sure its not Carter, Dubya, Obummer?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:23 | 4158416 Chaos_Theory
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I love Karma.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:30 | 4158444 akarc
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or a ping pong ball

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:23 | 4158418 NOTaREALmerican
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Ok, all you "Conservative" and "Liberals" don't forget, next election, it'll be TOTALLY different.

Think of the [ children | proper use of the genitals ] !!

Because if you don't vote for the [ Red Team | Blue Team ] the [ fornicating harlots | Koch Brothers ] will win!!!

And don't for get about [ those people | the oppressed minorities ] will [ take your women | be even more oppressed ] if the [ Red Team | Blue Team ] doesn't win.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:13 | 4158656 somecallmetimmah
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Pretty sure it's time for your meds.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 19:06 | 4159459 SubjectivObject
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WooooHooooooo! A lifetime, ACA paid, perscription of Blue Pills for him!

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:31 | 4158451 SubjectivObject
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Second cumming?

It's worse.  I detect a linear thinking bias.  Let's get exponential here

Since the nomination of Summers and Geithner, I have correctly called the guy ShrubCubed, or S3 for short.  You might believe what kind of response that has provoked.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:34 | 4158463 kevinearick
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Bush failed to pump the SS ponzi, and Obama has failed to pump the MC ponzi.

You were expecting...?

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:40 | 4158488 therearetoomany...
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I'm a bit miffed at ZH for this article.   We have real problems with this Obama.  Treason, Sedition, Lying, Killing.  And then you left wing shills have to go and drag poor ole W into this and besmirch a good man.   When will it end.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:47 | 4158523 CuttingEdge
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Given the whirlpool of shit Obamination is (deservedly) swimming in, I think only a trip to Dallas and a grassy knoll are going to improve his ratings.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:47 | 4158528 conspicio
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It is, in fact, even worse than Bush. A sychopantic media has beat the drum for this President and even in his repetitive failure have controlled the narrative to prop him up. Call it the soft bigotry of lowered expectations. So no, this isn't the second coming because all of that poll data is propped up higher than the QE marketplace. It's all underpinned by lies, half-truths, and obfuscation. Journolist, back channel agreements and Lies to cover the lies. If the media was in Bush mode with this President, given where he is, he would be gone from the national scene. So when you compare poll numbers like this outside of proper context, well, then fuck you.

That this is even a question for discussion is fucked up.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:50 | 4158549 all-priced-in
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Love him or hate him at least GWB had the common courtesy to (almost) disappear from public view after he left office. 

 

Obama will just keep making speeches and being a general douche bag long after his term is over.

 

 

 

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:02 | 4158609 Bear
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And leave his wife as the next POTUS

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 12:09 | 4160476 Tall Tom
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What do you mean the "next" President? My bet is that she is acting as the President now.

 

If you read the history behind Barack it was Moochelle that "discovered" him and put him into the Political Circles in the first place. I am sure that she is calling the shots from the bedroom.

 

Obama is certainly not man enough for the job.

 

She will run in 2016 and be installed as elections are meaningless.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:38 | 4158758 SmittyinLA
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I don't think it was Bush "courtesy" but more self preservation, Bush did tremendous permanent cultural economic & physical damage to America-and many foreign countries, one could even say he ruined it.

5 trillion in sub-prime loan fraud

30-30-50 million illegal aliens

Expanded govt more than 9 ways to Sunday

Without Bush's mass criminal invasion Obama never could have been elected.

We may never recover from GW Bush.  

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:26 | 4158705 SmittyinLA
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Obama is the seamless continuation of Bush, Dick Cheney's hand is so far up the Obamapuppet's ass you can't even see his lips move when he speaks.

Wow was Gaddaffi surprised when he went to embrace Obama and he got Dick Cheney's tongue.  

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:54 | 4158815 CHX
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  • I confess. I rooted for B.O. initially, as his change rhethoric promised something better than dubya. Well, by now I think B.O. is the worst president in the history of the US. Worst. By. Far. There, I said it.
Fri, 11/15/2013 - 16:14 | 4158898 squexx
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I never thought anyone would make me miss George W. Bush. Obama is our first Affirmative Action president, and hopefully our last!!

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 17:34 | 4159196 nc551
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Almost every president for a long time has been the worst president.  They almost always pick up the torch and continue the baby steps toward depravity.  If Bush and O kept even half the promises they made while campaigning they might not be so bad.  The ability to ignore the bait and switch never ceases to amaze me.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 17:18 | 4159142 Duude
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Obama is the second coming of Carter.  The Obominable care rollout is small potatoes. Wait till the exchanges actually operate as designed. Wait till insurance companies find out the only young Americans buying healthcare through the exchanges are undergoing chemotherapy or looking forward to the next operation. Wait till the second half of 2014 when American businesses no longer have a healthcare waiver and must make decisions about covering employees, cutting hours, and/or paying penalties thus pushing at least 1/2 of Americans onto the exchanges. Obominable care wasn't designed to make Americans happy with the cost. It was designed to provide poor people with an alternative while the middle class opt for single payer government controlled healthcare. Yeah, the same federal government that couldn't operate the mail system, Amtrak or put a stop to mailing out $25B in social security checks to dead people is now up to the task to manage 18% of the GDP. God help us.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 18:11 | 4159316 Randoom Thought
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One has to wonder WTF EXACTLY THEY DID TO the Obumbler WHEN THEY OPERATED ON HIS BRAIN. For those who have not experienced similar, the long scar on the right side of his head (over the right temporal lobe) is very characteristic of one given as a result of brain surgery.

I  have many guesses but no certain knowledge.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 18:40 | 4159400 MickV
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There is no comparison. Obama is an enemy of the Republic, and the worst thing to ever happen to America. He is ineligible, and not a natural born Citizen, because he was born of a British subject father, and is likely still a British subject to this day.

There is no comparison to any other POTUS for the damage that Barack Hussein Obama, domestic enemy of the US, has wrought. He represents the end of America and the theft of US Citizen sovereignty. When there is no legal executor of the laws then there is no law. In a Republic, based on a rule of law, an illegal executor of the laws means there is no United States and no Constitution. The law is only what evil men say it is-- thus you have a President that changes the law by executive order. It is all planned destruction, and silence allows it to happen.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 21:05 | 4159671 Ckierst1
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I beg to differ.  The best Barry O can do is second and even that is unsettled because he's up against the likes of Wilson, FDR, Hoover and Grant, who leap immediately to mind.  The absolute, stone cold worst president we've ever had and the man who presided over the chain of events leading to where we find ourselves today is Dishonest Abe Lincoln.

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 12:15 | 4160489 Tall Tom
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What most fail to understand is that the spectrum of Government is a continuity. So the following Occupant of 1600 Pennslyvania Avenue, Washington DC, in January, 2017, will even be worse, and more of a tyrant than Obama.

 

It matters not if they are a Red Team/Blue Team Brand. If you think that Obama is bad then wait until the next one...if there is a next one.

 

You ain't seen anything yet.

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