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Our leaders are constantly selling the idea that they are using "strategy" in foreign relations . After making rather explicit promises of support to Saddam's opposition we left them to dangle in the breeze so once we invaded and expected popular support we couldn't figure out why they would not work with us. Time and again we have sought alliances and then walked away from them when things got tough. We removed Libya's terrorist designation and normalized relations with Ghaddafi only to bomb his country when he tried to stop al queda from invading and watched while he was murdered in the street. Regardless of how evil or not Iran's intentions might be, why would anyone negotiate with America when they know the moment our leaders have a change of heart or see some political expediency, they will be dead. Islam is supposed to embrace the concept of abrogation to advance their goals, but American politics puts them to shame. We have no principles and no honor. American leaders will fuck anyone and as we see that includes their own citizens...maybe especially their own citizens.
i miss boosh dammit, and that's just sad.
Yeah, buzzsaw99, I used to think it was difficult to imagine a President worse than Baby Bush, and then we got Obama, who turned out to be way worse. I shudder to think how much worse the next President after Obama will probably be ... Just how much worse can each President become, before there finally is no more Presidency?
What makes you think there'll be another President after Obama?
I always thought "The Plan" was for him to transition to a modern-day Pharoah, so abolishing the need to run the facade of elections.
Bush killed his thousands......Obama killed his tens of thousands.
Many had the same concern regarding Bush43.
Yeah, but it's been well over 5 years now.....so most of us have decided to move on.
What makes you think America will exist after Back Door Barry?
I really hope Obama tries it.
I really thought we had finally reached the bottom of the barrel when we had to endure 8 years of the evil, murderous Clintonistas.
.....and now the demoncraps want to try to shove killary down our throats.
God help us.
On US ME lies :
About the upcoming rehashed talks in Geneva on Iran and the Kerry-Netanyahu stand-off :
One US Senate voice picked up by the good ole Economist :
At the libertarian end of the 2016 Republican field, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky was careful to praise Israel during a flag-waving speech to military cadets on November 12th, intended to soothe conservatives who think him flaky on national security. “One thing you can know for sure is, you will never see an Israeli burning the American flag,” Mr Paul enthused, bumper-stickerishly. He did not mention Iran or its nuclear ambitions.
Read more here : Lexington: Barack, Bibi and Iran | The Economist
> “One thing you can know for sure is, you will never see an Israeli burning the American flag,”
Not directly, but indirectly (if there is a benefit)? Maybe not so sure at all.
They took a pretty good run at the one on the USS Liberty.
Why waste time burning the flag when they are doing such a good job burning America itself.
Was it Officer...or Captain again? refresh my memory...there is so much I wish not to remember but your rank is not one of them. and of course "Officer is good enough for me." Want a "fleet" to go with that Navy? I'm the type of guy who can give that actually. Some say I already have actually...
Lied? Lied? Lied? Really?
But I thought everybody in the USA "lied".
Isn't lying the Expectation? It certainly appears to be for Congress; for NSA; for the President and White House, as well as the MSM.
As Hillary says, "what difference does it make" - So lying is the US National Paradigm? We all know that! And that is precisely why the USA uses military wars, ie, murder, genocide, torture, incarceration, etc., etc., on all and any Nations, as well as individuals, that dare to even consider the Truth. They even do these things to their own.
Surely the "leadership"(sic) of the USA are chosen for their abilities to lie and kill as well as the highest levels of criminal and intellectual insanity?
So one needs to consider if this sort of behaviour is what is called "freedom", then the USA is despised for its "freedom".
Language is the house of the truth of Being.
Martin Heidegger
Personally, you Americans can keep all your ph$cking lies, as I prefer to know:
"And, what's needed is for you,
to learn all things:
both the unshaken heart of pervasive Truth,
and
the opinions of mortals,
in which there's nothing that can truthfully be trusted at all.
But even so, this too you will learn -
how beliefs based on appearance
ought to be believable
as they travel all through all there is."
Parmenides
http://verbewarp.blogspot.com.au/2005/08/mares-that-carry-me-as-far-as-longing.html
Penetration of the core of wisdom eventually arrives here: Yet there is one other of this family:
In Principle, that is, the Tetrad.
Ho hum
"grammar" not language. Heidegger was a dipshit. Humans babble before they're even born. You want truth "Mr Big"...take a vacation..to Afghanistan. That will help "inform" your "knowledge base" of the world and perhaps "round out your thinking about things." don't worry...I'm sure you'll always be remembered and will have a "singular voice that that will rings through the ages" and all that shit. As that great Mexican dictator "what's his name" said to his biographer "tell them I said something"...which of course was duly repeated by said biographer when everyone asked him "what did he say?" after he perished. (note to self: choose unable to choose one's biographer choose one'e words well.)
10s of millions voted for him. It's your own damn fault!
Absolutely ... Elections really matter. One may think that Right and Left are forged out of the same mold (or paid for by the same bankers). But at least when we elect a Republican as president the media is all over him, investigating every little thing (as well they should). When a Democrat is elected the media busies itself covering up for him.
The media failed on the WMD's (Weapons Of Delusions) Caused a very unwarrented and costly problem,esp with lives.
If WMD's was a conspiracy of deliberate lies, then it was a really big conspiracy involving most of the world's leaders as it was an opinion held by most of them. It is possible to be wrong because you have a bias in how you view information, but that does not mean you are a liar. If if it did then half the posters on ZH would be liars as well, because viewing the same data results in some pretty wildly divergent opinions. To be a liar, you have to know you are lying. You have to be an Obama. For Obama the only transparency he has brought us is through the judgement of his actions, for his words are opaque to most if not all meaning. I, like most have my own biases (which does not make me necessarily wrong) but I think it is safe to say that almost everyone sees this to be true.
How many do you think voted for Obowel Movement, if you deduct dead-demoncraps, dead Republicans, cartoon characters, illegal aliens, dogs, cats, felons, duped college undergrads, brain-damaged academics, those with I.Q.'s of 72 or less, CAIR, and The Muslim Brotherhood?
Letting George Soros owned Diebold count the votes....are we insane, or just stupid?
has any of us seen or heard anything about the FBI? seems they have dropped off the face of the earth.
Same could be said of Stalin's victims... or Mao... but but but! We believe in communism!
We need new people to lie to us.
Today: "If you like your doctor, you can keep him, period" ... Tomorrow: "What difference does it make now?"
I have to wonder if Joe Wilson feels vindicated at all. I'm betting he would just love to say "told ya so"
In front of Congress......on national TV.......who's the man?
Obama and the Cherry Tree... What's the lesson children?
In the documentary on Argentina the bankers did the exact same thing. They bribed the nations politicians (like Jamie Dimon bribing Wen recently) so completely that the citizens expected their politicians to lie to them. The only politicians they could vote for were bribed by the banks to sell their nation out.
Maybe China will stop them since the US can't seem to find a way to restore law.
How bad will it get? We still have 3 more years of Obomber. As I have said before, it was almost impossible to be worse than Bush Jr., but Obomber makes it look effortless.
aren't we at high crimes and misdemeanors yet?
if your comment is 140 char or less then I'll read it.
Get fucking with it!
Over.
it is strange how lying rhymes with dying.
Politicians and bureaucrats generally lie about important things but tell the truth about things like what they had for breakfast.
Clinton lied about his favorite color and where he grew up.
It's obvious when you think about it; Bush's fault. Somehow, someway, soon, we'll hear it.
Obama is Nixon with an afro
No. He is Josef Stalin with an afro.
Get rid of him by due process or die.
There is no other choice.
Would due process include a metal-jacketed brain implant?
Nixon was afraid of the press and it goaded him and his henchmen to act defensively. Obama is only afraid of Americans. The press is in his pocket and the rest of the world is so fucked they will stand behind anyone to deflect the blame for the fucking mess they are in at home. Nixon was an insecure man in a position of great power. Obama is an arrogant power-mad cunt who will stoop to any depth to advance his agenda and salve his ego.
OT but speaking of the dead: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508361/Outrage-Norway-gravestones-covered-BLACK-BAGS-notes-demanding-overdue-rental-payment.html
Guess you're not safe anywhere anymore...
In some European countries it's very rare to impossible to hold a cemetery plot into perpetuity. The average is something like fifty years or until taxes/leases go unpaid, or no one visits, and the plot reverts to the state for eventual reuse.
I guess being from the US that just seems creepy. It's like they want to bury you with an arm sticking out of the ground holding some $$$.
I have a cemetery a mile or so from here with graves from the 1900's. Volunteers keep it cleaned up and long time local family plots are always kept up. The land is 'leased' from the county in perpetuity but I guess that's until they go bankrupt and sell off the place.
Guess I'm gonna burn and get scattered, like to see them tax/invoice that...
No need to worry, DHS have these great big plastic boxes. Although you'll be sharing the space with 49 others. the upside is... you will be dead and most likely not care.
As that we all live on this earth but a short time, we are but renters. The "State" however lives on for ever and is the landlord. If we don't keep the rent paid up to date, then we might find ourselves "evicted", needing to find shelter "off-world". And we wonder why so many pray for life after death, for the chance to live rent free.
Lol,
Pay up or you will be'redacted' from memory.
That's cold.
Yeah, I can't believe a murderous fucking animal lied.
"I'm good at killing People."
-BHO, 2012,
Double Down, Mark Halperin, John Heilemann, 2013.
You have an existential National Security problem in the White House, America.
A Gay, degenerate, drug addicted serial killer whose real identity is still unknown.
Right now, he is detroying the Health Care system. Untold numbers of Americans will die as a result. How many dead Americans will you tolerate?
Impeachment, ya think?
Oh, wait, college football is on...................
lakecity
Correct. His social security number was issued to someone called Harrison J. Bounel.
http://www.barnhardt.biz/2013/11/13/obama-isnt-a-loner-hes-a-crack-smoki...
Ann Barnhardt an honorable woman, closed her commodity shop the minute she figured out that her clients, mostly farmers and ranchers were going to take it up the pooter when the likes of Corzine were running free but she has them crazy eye's and prays to a plastic 4" dead woman on the dash board of her doomsday van which puts in the catagory of a half wit.
Just goes to show this shit will eventually drive us all nuts.
Ann Barnhardt an honorable woman
Apparently that just pisses people off to no end.
The plastic figurine is a mere representation. Of Christ, not a woman.She doesn't pray to it. Half wit indeed. And it's spelled "category". And the plural of eye is eyes. Not eye's, which is the possessive case.
booboo
First, you're kind of an idiot. Second, Banhardt is honest, sincere and very, very brave.
yardfarmer
If there is a quote at the beginning of your post, then the up arrow does't work. Otherwise I would have up-arrowed you.
I offer an alternative to
the Lie:
I offer Heretical thought in language,
I offer you the "Principle".
In Principle ...
http://verbewarp.blogspot.com.au/2005_08_01_archive.html
Ho hum
They don't lie, they provide cover for the theft.
Ow! That burns ... truth.
Like a vampire in the sun.
Mans natural state is slavery
And we spend most waking moments trying desperately escape nature.
You can't handle the Truth. Get over it; when you get there you'll know, but you are on the bottom.
The only part of this cartoon I don't believe is that Stephens was allowed to have a headstone.
the enemy of my enemy is my self,
i am the enemy of my self.
there must be a bubble somewhere close
by to expand into, in time, to accommodate
the incoherence of this dialectic confusion
and systemic deflationary dilemma.
you are now the face of dystopian humanity; well said.
Hey now, there is something wrong with our entire society when it becomes front page news that a politician lied.
But of course there is already something seriously wrong with our society when some goober with no birth certificate calling himself by some goofy name like "Barack Hussein Obama" is taken seriously as a national candidate for half a microsecond.
As the philosopher said, "Surprize, surprize!"
It isn't the lies that are news, really. They all lie. It is the revelation of the nature of those lies that astonish me over and over again despite my expectation of it happening.
Not much more than a decade ago, Congress moved to impeach Bill Clinton for what, in my opinion, was a rather innocuous and completely expected lie. Today...such a short time later - the blink of an eye, really - the government tracks our every move, listens to our every conversation, compiles a record of every purchase we make, ignores the rule of law, commits fraud and deceipt at every turn and has become eerily reminicent of some seriously dark and dangerous times in history and we get from our Congress AND the American people...crickets. Dead silence.
It's like watching a scary movie and knowing I'm going to jump out of my skin...expecting it, but it gets me every time. Surreal doesn't begin to describe what I'm feeling here.
Clinton was impeached for lying to a grand jury about a sexual assault case (something that none of us has a difficult time imagining). If you think that was "innocuous", what hope do we have of stopping a lying fucker like Obama? They put Scooter Libby in prison for supposedly misleading the AG in an investigation of leaks where they already knew who had done it. A banana republic is defined to me as a system of laws, not lacking in volume but in consistency in application and enforcement. Do you have any bananas today?
..'and what do we get from our congress and the american people...crickets. Dead silence'......With all those Zombies walking around it IS a scray movie come to life!
? Mark Twain
Obama's campaign slogan: 'Let us change the way Washington DC doing business'.
'Let us simplify the tax code...' in a Fox interview right after he took the whilehouse.
Cheap shot!
I agree. It was a cheap shot blaming the Benghazi attack on a youtube video.
Just wondering.....is that guy still in jail?
How naïf!
The last US President who spoke some truth was J.F.Kennedy then he was assassinated.
Somebody should turn TVs off and start to do some serious readings.
I get the feeling that a whole lotta free shit will be handed out between now and the election.
Obama may lie, but I can say for sure that Bill and Hillary would never lie.
but not to each other - too obvious
Attorney = Liar for Hire
Congressman = Lawyer for Donors
Senator = Lawyer on Retainer
President = Lawyer owned by Select Clients
* Prosecutor = Government liar for hire
I had a realization today that is so simple that it s easy to overlook. Most Americans do not read.
This means they get all of their information form the TV and radio. The TV is owned by a few corps in bed with the federal government. Radio is mostly right of center but it is not informative.
This means we are likely the only group, and probably the largest group, who have some idea of how bad the economy really is...and a good ZH article gets less than 100,000 hits.
Now Youtube has a fair bit of doomer porn but I'm not seeing many numbers much bigger than ZH.
Lets just be generous and say that lots more than a few hundred people understand that the GNP is BS and we could be days away from collapse. Even by a factor of 10x there still is only a small core who have more than just an uneasy feeling that somethng ain't right.
When the dollar blows there will be a lot of confused angry folks...a lot more than I thought before I had my little realization.
Well said.
Apparently there are more people like are seen on Leno's "Jaywalking" than there are people like us.
Time and again there are videos of people being interviewed concerning just about any topic and the people have no clue. It seems there are a lot of them out there.
How many people understand what the massive QE's are having on their lives? How many understand the massive wealth transfer that is going on due to the existence of the Federal Reserve?
Ten times as many could tell us about the lives of the Kardashians.
Why do we keep watching politicians give speeches. Do we expect them to tell the truth?
I consider the speeches as a warning of what the next unlubed reaming gonna be.
I don't see what the big deal with Benghazi is. What's surprising about American diplomats being targeted by terrorists in Libya? You movie-addled Americans think the military can always come to the rescue at the last minute, but real life ain't Hollywood. Stop mindelssly repeating what Fox tells you and wake the fuck up.
People died and 0bama, Hillary, Rice etc. lied dumb ass.
think the military can always come to the rescue at the last minute
Well they sure as hell can't if they get dragged off the plane....which is exactly what happened. They could have made it. But when you're trying to get your ambassador kidnapped to trade for the blind sheik...would you really want too?
Yes, I know it's not reported.....we couldn't have that now could we?
There were reportedly US forces close enough to help but they were told to stand down.
But, what the hell are we doing messing around over there? Government is one big lie.
The "Big Deal" is that they put those people deliberately in a very dangerous situation with virtually NO protection and then explicitly denied them any assistance when attacked. They then deliberately lied about what had happened and stayed on message for weeks while the whole world knew better. And since, they have prohibited any real investigation, no testimony by those on the ground and a virtual blackout of any info coming forth. Further we now know that the whole operation was a front for illegally arming militants who represented themselves as revolutionaries for Syria, which we now know are murderous Muslim radicals, the same ones that initially attacked Ghaddafi, whom we facilitated his overthrow and murder. Other than that there is nothing to see here.
Guess we'll never know if we would get a "Hollywood ending' to Bengazi because the military got orders to STAND DOWN from a rescue attempt.
But, of course you knew that already, since you seem so well informed.
Hot tip: Even the mouth-breathers gave up on the 'Fox News' schtick a while back. Didn't get the memo?
"I don't see what the big deal with Benghazi is."
Let me take a wild guess...you don't have many satisfying personal relationships either, because you don't relate to other people very well, lacking sympathy or empathy for others.
It's difficult to feel pity for someone sucking at the government teat.
So if the government workers get murdered by terrorists and the WH refuses tosend help and falsely blames it on a video, then it doesn't mean much, eh. Maybe you could make friends with Helvetico.
serious fucking moron. I guess it matters no more than fast and furious, obamacare, etc. President lies - people dies. No big deal to some I guess.
The truth isn't always pleasant, but it's always helpful
Dumb Sheeple. I use to Laugh at you. Now, I feel sorry for ya. Go to your nearest cliff and jump-off. Before you procreate.
sadly truth. poor guy.