Guest Post: The Most Puzzling (And Haunting) Statement About The Obamacare Fiasco

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Submitted by F.F.Wiley of Cyniconomics blog,

This may be a little after-the-fact, but I’ve been thinking about the ACA mess this weekend and keep coming back to President Obama’s November 7 interview with Chuck Todd. 

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Or more precisely, Ann Althouse’s post on the interview.  (I admit to not watching the full interview – Althouse’s excerpts were enough to stick in my head like an annoying song.)

Speaking about why his campaign website worked so well compared to the ACA site, Obama said:

You know, one of the lessons - learned from this whole process on the website - is that probably the biggest gap between the private sector and the federal government is when it comes to I.T. …

 

Well, the reason is is that when it comes to my campaign, I’m not constrained by a bunch of federal procurement rules, right?

He later added that:

When we buy I.T. services generally, it is so bureaucratic and so cumbersome that a whole bunch of it doesn’t work or it ends up being way over cost.

BO, aren’t you kind of acknowledging that your ideological opponents are right?  Yet, you claim that these fundamental inefficiencies are easily fixed?

As Althouse notes:

we've been told we must buy a product, and things have been set up so we can only go through the government's market (the "exchange"), and the government has already demonstrated that its market doesn't work. But you can't walk away, you're forced to buy, and there's nowhere else to go. And yet, he wants us to feel bad about the cumbersome bureaucracy the government encountered trying to procure the wherewithal to set up the market it had already decided we would all need to use.

Check out the Althouse post for appropriate commentary and YouTube clips.

(h/t David Henderson)

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Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:22 | 4162759 knukles
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No further explinations necessary..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX2Qfv5O634

 

stoopid monkeys (courtesy, adult swim)

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:06 | 4162886 rubiconsolutions
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"Well, the reason is is that when it comes to my campaign, I’m not constrained by a bunch of federal procurement rules, right?"

No sir. The reason your website worked is because it was designed like a giant vacuum cleaner that had only one purpose: to fleece people out of campaign money. It's as simple as putting a PayPal widget on your site. And the "NSA Plugin" of course. Channeling an old Geico commercial - "It's so simple even a caveman can do it."


Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:28 | 4162934 Keyser
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Well, his lips were moving, so we must assume that he is lying, again. 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:36 | 4163549 machineh
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Why are you all so negative toward this nice Indonesian man who's impersonating the preznit?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 09:30 | 4164686 kralizec
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Fuck you people!  Fuck each and every one of you that enabled this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable fuck to become POTUS!  May you all drown in a pool of maggots, vomit and excrement!!!

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 11:05 | 4165073 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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not even the birthers want to touch this reality....  it is as convoluted as we can believe

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 16:45 | 4163158 Bazza McKenzie
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Nor by a bunch of rules about who is entitled to vote and how often.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 16:50 | 4163169 XenoFrog
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He wasn't even constrained by Federal election laws, as evidenced by all the foreign money that flowed into his campaign website without even a basic check as to country of origin.

 

Obama thinks he is being cute when he waxes intellectual about how easy it would be to lead if he didn't have to follow the rule of law. Every time it sends a chill down my spine because he's actually just testing the waters. Getting Americans used to the idea of Dictatorship one quip at a time.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 17:00 | 4163200 jcaz
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Spot on, Xeno-  this isn't about healthcare at all, never was for Barry and his crew- this is about advancing an authoritarian regime,  carried out in a shuck-and-jive manner on Letterman, et al....  Pay no attention to the man hanging out daily on the golf course, all is well...

My ass.

 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:06 | 4163483 eatthebanksters
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You can't fucking fix stupid...come on peeps. Without a teleprompter and a written speech, our president is a moron.  I mean, did he get into Columbia and Harvard on his grades and test scores?  He is fucking clueless. 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:39 | 4163555 machineh
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Did he get into Columbia and Harvard AT ALL?

Did he attend any classes, if he did?

Hard to tell, when his transcripts are secret.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 23:08 | 4164045 Things that go bump
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If so, there must be people out there who can say, "yah, I went to school with Obama - He was in my ...... class." The silence is deafening, puts me in mind of Antigorish, which most will remember from childhood. -

"Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today,
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

When I came home last night at three,
The man was waiting there for me
But when I looked around the hall,
I couldn't see him there at all!
Go away, go away, don't you come back any more!
Go away, go away, and please don't slam the door...

Last night I saw upon the stair,
A little man who wasn't there,
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away..."     Hughes Mearns

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 10:21 | 4164839 czardas
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It's the Alinsky play book of eternal enemies and the endless ideological struggle.  Obama does not expect a socialist state tomorrow.  He couldn't even seize control  (just as Bush never couldn't remain in power as heard constantly on the nut sites).  The military would not support him and I have a hard time forseeing them backing any non-legalistic manner.  What he CAN do is make us convinced that the State has all authority and must be consulted (and give its approval) for ALL actions - ecological. medical, agricultural, educational and business-related. The DC "experts" will offer their benevolent guidance as we pass through the difficult but necessary trasition to authoritarian (but loving) rule.

And that's the thing - these people actually believe that an authoritarian state is for the best.  Everyone knows their place and follows the rules established by the "right" folks who wearily toil providing guidance for the masses. Of course, like all such states there won't be much change, researach, material improvement or rising living standards but we should know that privations are good for the soul.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:25 | 4162768 Cognitive Dissonance
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Ignore what any of them say. It's all bullshit soothing public relations for the vast majority who are dependent (in one way or another) upon the machine. Watch what they do.

<"Catch me (in a lie) if you can dare." - Barry O>

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:08 | 4162861 Harbanger
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It's easy to be President when the MSM willfully covers for all your scandals and replaces your old lies with new.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:49 | 4163012 Cruel Aid
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Almost all of us agree with that.

Down arrow???

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 17:19 | 4163255 Oracle 911
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<Bouncing mouse cursor (miss click)

<Government troll

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 06:56 | 4164463 GetZeeGold
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Member for 12 weeks 6 days

 

Another ACA troll hits the dust.......MAN DOWN!

 

Clean up on aisle 5.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:24 | 4162782 Eireann go Brach
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Obama is making Dubya look like a fucking genius these days! And at least we know Old Dubya is American!

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:48 | 4162839 GetZeeGold
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Hell....at this point I'd settle with just having Bill Clinton back.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:22 | 4162919 Long-John-Silver
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Even Jimmy Carter was better than this, and some of US lived through that mess.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:36 | 4162957 Keyser
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I go back to Eisenhower... The chimp in the oval office now makes everyone from Eisenhower to GWB all look like rocket scientists. 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 16:04 | 4163055 johnQpublic
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how about a nice honest crook like warren g harding?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 16:11 | 4163076 GetZeeGold
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Stop teasing us.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 16:19 | 4163092 NoDebt
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How about anybody who can do what politicians are supposed to do best- line their own modestly-sized pockets with money and power without completely fucking up the entire rest of the country in the process.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 23:09 | 4164057 Things that go bump
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Those were the good old days.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:02 | 4163018 Cruel Aid
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Some charts say Clinton was a good president... Debt chart.

He was good at being too busy to screw things up

Edit: He wasn't busy screwing around? The debt did slow down... all im saying.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 03:04 | 4164361 NIHILIST CIPHER
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Bite your tounge GZG that was a horrid eight years, besides you will probably have Hitlary in the WH next (at which time I will move to SA). Don't think Bill won't be front and center as the first husband. We don't need to settle any more,we need a house cleaning.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 16:10 | 4163071 Lost My Shorts
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Irony is, Romneycare worked in Massachusetts.  Not sure it's totally popular, but it was implemented many years ago, and the state didn't explode or tip over into the Atlantic, and housing in the Boston area is still wildly unaffordable so not everyone left.  Poor Barry-O has hitt the point where, in a parliamentary system, he would resign to avoid an embarrassing no-confidence vote.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 16:29 | 4163121 Cynthia
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It's fun seeing these Democratic corporatists taking the heat from the Republican corporatists for a rewarmed version of Nixoncare, as refined by Romneycare.

May they all crash and burn.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 00:33 | 4164194 playnstocks
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Its a liberal utopia! Unicorns and rainbows everywhere!

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 02:47 | 4164345 NIHILIST CIPHER
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LMS        Romneycare was a dismal failure in MA last I read about it. The whole socialist ACA and Obonzo are an epic fail. There are too many Britts with too many opinions around here lately...and I think that you are one of them. 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 10:40 | 4164952 czardas
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We have "Tenncare" (TN), the Medicaid program for about 17% of the population.  It once threatened to bankrupt us until a Democrat governor (both parties are moderate) cleaned house, reduced coverage and added limits. BUT....Tenncare "works" because everyone is in HMO, the federal gov't provides 2/3 of the funds and we have a VERY lean state government. 

However, all good things....  70% of next year's increases are from Tenncare and once again it's back to cut service, raise taxes (impossible in a state with no income tax) or switch to Obamacare.  (We do not have a state exchange.)  

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:28 | 4162795 q99x2
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HEy its obvious thet the Central Bankers / Insurance Companies ordered Obama to implement ObamaCare as an attack against the United States of America as part of their plan to take over the world. We have been in WWIII since WWII.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:41 | 4162825 knukles
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The non-Fabian Cloward Piven design, global transformation into the One Great NWO Proceeds Ahead Swimmingly, According to Plan

....and to think that so many people were calling AJ a conspiracy theorist for his NWO, Bilderberg, Clowar Piven rants just a few years ago.....

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:40 | 4162980 Keyser
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The only problem with a NWO is getting the BRICS to buy into it. 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 18:30 | 4163405 John_Coltrane
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You didn't mean non-Fabian did you?  The Fabian Socialists have always had NWO as their central tenet going back to Wilson and the League of Nations.  Their method has always been war, the social welfare state and the debt needed to finance it.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:32 | 4162804 TeamDepends
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Proof positive it is time for the Great Reset!

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:36 | 4162810 RafterManFMJ
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Basically everything that comes out of .gov's mouth is akin to the hypnotic motion of a snake's head, just meant to immobilize and confuse until it is in range/position to strike.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:37 | 4162818 booboo
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His remarks are directed at the Idiocracy voters thinking "burrito topping and stuff" everyone else knows the no bid contract for web development was a croney that will kick back half the money to the DNC to buy votes with " moar" burrito toppings.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:45 | 4162821 CheapBastard
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"If you want to keep your health insurance, you cannot keep your health insurance."

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:40 | 4162823 MedicalQuack
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Question here on Obamacare, have you all missed watching the growing number of Quants hired by health insurance companies..I haven't:)  Seriously though this is growing and again it's the continuous rise and fall of the machines in healthcare just like the markets.  As we see Hedge fund coding not working as well and more difficult to write, so goes the health insurance math models as well.  It' getting more difficult to profit on segmentation with smaller risk pools, and the ACA is all about reducing some of the segmentation models out there to provide better care and that clashes with Quant written profit models.  I'm sure every avenue of a non linear formulas is being explored as best they can try to find but eventually just like the sub prime numbers, something falls out along the line somewhere and from there it's the dominoes.

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/11/president-obamas-decision-to-exte...

By the way this week, the Remote Area Medical documentary premieres...as I said, the US owns this one with third world medical clinics in a first world country.  If healthcare was so great in the US, these folks could pack it up and donate their time elsewhere as they had originally planned to do outside the US, but business intelligence math models don't allow that to happen.  Good timing to release the documentary one could say as health insurers have to call on their Quants to fix the 5% formula now to allow for consumers to extend their policies.

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/11/remote-area-medical-documentary.html

 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:55 | 4162855 kchrisc
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"Government always accomplishes the opposite of the stated goal. Always."

That is because any and everything that the criminals of government say is cover for their theft and murder.

"I will save the German nation." "We will provide equality." "We 'serve and protect'."...

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:04 | 4162883 RichardP
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"Government always accomplishes the opposite of the stated goal. Always."

That is a seriously misinformed statement.  If you actually believe it, you are embarrassing yourself - due to all of the evidence abundantly available that proves the statement false.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:22 | 4162920 drexlraw
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and yet, you fail to cite even one example of "abundantly available" evidence..

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:32 | 4162949 GetZeeGold
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Well played sir.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:06 | 4163620 RichardP
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Do I need to???  Do you doubt that I am correct?  Then you also are embarrassing yourself.  You live in this country and don't know what your government does that  improves your life?  For shame.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:15 | 4163799 sgorem
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< :( richard is correct.......................?

< :) "DICK" is short for richard...........?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:48 | 4165483 RichardP
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So - truth in your world is determined, not by facts available to the public, but by up or down votes?  If true, I fear for the future of the Republic.

Sun, 11/24/2013 - 13:04 | 4185653 sgorem
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i'm sorry DICK, what was the question?

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